Yupe. Also Ulmo was the only Vala who still gave a crap for Middle-Earthers after the Noldor went crazy. And he was the one who said the other Valar when the elves awakened "hey, shouldn't we leave them live their lives wherever they want?" I guess Ulmo was really the good Vala, respecting free will and helping nonetheless
@@englishlady9797 and the children of hurin had to oay the highest cost, very depressing, but hey Turín turambar shall one Day get his revenge and kill the vala and all evil once and for all
@@englishlady9797 Hurin had some massive balls on him. The ending of the Battle of Unnumbered Tears is quite literally Hurin alone vs. the endless hordes of Morgoth. Guys fights till he's buried in bodies, then is brought before Evil Incarnate himself, and basically tells him, to his face, to go eat a dick lol. Non-stop Badass!!!
It seems like there is no end to the interesting, fascinating, and beautiful things that lay in the depths of Tolkien’s books. Just when you think you’ve heard everything interesting you’re proved wrong.
What's even more interesting was something in Christopher Tolkien's recently released editon of hte Fall of Gondolin. There's a note that says Earendil was a name given to Christ in one very obscure old Saxon poem, and that was where Tolkien got the inspiration from.
The fact that a single man could create a mythos as complex and as enthralling as all the Legends of Greece, Egypt, and Scandinavia is truely awe-inspiring! Tolkien is a true genius and no one can deny that. P.S. Your narration of these stories are so BEAUTIFULLY well-done. Never stop doing this please!
Don't forget that his son, Christopher, also spent a lifetime compiling and editing the works. Without him, the Silmarillion, Lost Tales, the Fall of Gondolin, the Children of Hurin, and others would never have been published
@@jeffkaplanjr8583 Even if they weren't published, the fact that J.R.R created them at all (vertually on his own) is incredible to me. Not to mention inspiring. P.S. That's not to discredit Christopher. His devotion to his father's work is just as legendary as the work itself, no doubt about it!
@@doasido5757 He had a lot of inspirations of course but the stories themselves are wholly unique and not analagous to anything. Parts of the stories have applicability to outside sources sure, but they are in no way at all retellings or analogies. In fact he despised merely using fiction to retell already existing stories. He very regularly criticised CS Lewis for making the Narnia series into essentially an analogy for the bible stories and wholeheartedly believed a story should stand by itself rather than lean on any of its inspirations.
It's amazing how interconnected Tolkien's world is. That light from Eärendil's star, the last surviving Silmaril, helped the Ring bearer on his quest (and vanquished the daughter of Ungoliant) is perfect.
@@theflashgordon193 The light from Galadriel's "favourite star" caught in the waters of her fountain. That star is a slimaril, yes, born on the forehead of Eärendil as he sails the heavens.
I know it's pretty meaningless, but I like the fact that, unlike Lúthien and Arwen, Idril only has Elven ancestry (that we know of, and there's no reason to believe otherwise). So in my book they are the truest Man-Elf couple out there.
To be fair, Luthien literally *gave up* immortality to be with Beren. And iirc, Arwen *is* likened to Luthien in the text. But yeah, more love for the other man-elf couples would be nice.
I can't get over how even minor characters in Tolkien's world are written leaps and bounds better then a lot of modern stories/shows. Truly Tolkien was toppest of tier!
That's because Tolkien polished his work over and over as opposed to most of today's writers who publish a second draft and call it a day. I'm thinking of those books that are 3 times longer than they need to be and where the author's name is bigger than than the title.
@@dlxmarks Yeah, Tolkien's publisher was quite frustrated waiting decades for the Hobbit sequel, then they got a way too thick book for a more mature audience and had to do more work to get it split into 6 books in 3 volumes that they could afford to publish despite knowing few would buy it anyway. But at least they got lucky with the sales figures.
The stories of Tuor and Turin are two of the most beautiful of all of Tolkien's stories. Turin's story is so utterly wretched and sad, and Tuor's is full of hope. The moment where Tuor catches sight of Turin for a brief moment on his travels is like one of those poignant moments in time. You are left with the feeling that things could have somehow been different, and yet at the same time feeling as though somehow they couldn't ever have turned out differently from how they did. That Christopher chose these two stories alongside that of Beren and Luthien to make into longer works is understandable. They have a wonderfully poetic feel to them. As an aside, what is the music for the first half of the video? It is a very good choice and very atmospheric and evocative.
The duality of their stories is fascinating. Literally a case of "There but for the grace of god go I". Tuor was favoured by the Gods, Turin cursed by them.
If I remember correctly, I think Christopher said his father considered the three of these stories to be the three “Great Tales” of the first age. They pretty much started Tolkien’s creating Middle-Earth being some of the earliest stories he wrote with early drafts of Gondolin being written on scraps in the trenches of WWI, and much of the history of the first age revolving around and culminating in them. It’s honestly a shame that Tolkien never finished and published a complete book about them considering how important they seemed to him and his writing, so it made me so happy that Christopher managed to compile his writings on them into single books as his last major contribution to his father’s writings.
@annan dune since you say that, have you read The Children of Hurin? When you read of young Turin speaking to Sador (even calling him Labadal was childish and so innocent t), it captures a great innocence and a quite poetic touch.
Narn i Hîn Húrin - "The Tale of the Children of Húrin" was ascribed to a man named Dírhaval, a poet who lived in the Havens of Sirion in the 1st age. The word 'Narn' signifies the tale to be read as a verse, though spoken not sung.
That's why I am so low-grade pissed at Amazon for starting in the Second Age. The Fall of Gondolin and the events leading directly up to it would definitely one of the most dramatic and cinematic shows ever made! Edit: I love the fact Amazon is finally doing a full Tokien show, and honestly can't wait to see it!
That’s actually not on Amazon. They were allowed to purchase the rights to the Second Age. I get the feeling the Tolkien Estate is more protective of the First Age - with good reason. Hopefully Amazon knocks it out of the park and it opens the door for First Age stories!
@@NerdoftheRings Thank you for clearing that up! And like I said, I'm SUPER looking forward to the show! Even if they have to release the First Age as Second Season material it'd be MORE than worth it!
Christopher refused to make a complete story if the Fall if Gondolin, so what would that look like if Bezos got his hands on the film rights? I would rather never find out.
Tuor is amazing. He is just as powerful as his cousin Turin. They are like the two sides of a coin. One walked the light way, joining the elves, married a princess, saved the people of Gondolin and in the end became immortal, the other walked a darker path, became an outcast for some time, but still managed to kill Glaurung (who was in the top 3 threats in the first age in my opinion). Such an amazing family!
Tuor was blessed while Turin was cursed. Tuor got his Elven princess, Turin's wannabe Elven lady got killed because of him. And he ended marrying his own sister. Tuor tried to save his hidden city and failed. Turin revealed his and saw it destroyed for it. Tuor's descendants became famous and kings of Elf and Man. Turin's disappeared.
@@xhagast Turin and his family were cursed because his captured father Hurin defied Morgoth and stayed true to the Elves when, even under great torture, he refused to disclose the location of Gondolin. Enraged at Hurin's defiance and strength of will, Morgoth put a significant portion of his Power as a Vala into the Curse on Hurin's family, but he was thereby diminished in power by that same portion. Although Turin and those in his orbit suffered terribly due to The Curse, Morgoth's power also suffered reciprocally in order to fulfill it. On its face, it may appear that Huor's line is more blessed than Hurin's, but Tolkien writes that at the world's ending, Turin and his kin will have ultimate justice for their many sufferings when, during the Battle of the Dagor Dagorath, Turin will destroy Morgoth in single combat, whereupon and his family will finally inherit the highly honored place in the world that follows which Fate had dealt them (a place of honor very dearly earned indeed).
@@xhagast Turin is known as Elf-Friend so he must have done something good to earn that title. The stories in the legendarium vary in origin. The story we get from Turin might not be the whole truth.
I swear, when I read the last words by Huor to Turgon I cry EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. The most beautiful words *ever* spoken in The Children of Húrin, my favorite book… 😭💔
I haven't read it but that part of the video, knowing full well he was going to die, and he lays his life down for his friend....with no fear...I hope to be as brave in my ending
@@YumYum820 Many of the companionships (whether by friend, family or marriage) in Tolkien’s books are like NO other. I wish this kind of sacrificial love were more common between people in the world nowadays… It’s becoming more like things you only read about in fantasy books….
@@annaanisa7388 Tolkiens effort was to preserve a part of the world that we lost through 500 years of modernisation. Starting with the reformation everything in the West started to fall apart. Yet I don't think we have reached the bottum just yet.
@@universalflamethrower6342 your words echoe stronger two years later, yet there is hope my friend. Upon the darkest of hours, heroes will be born again.
So many compelling moments within Tolkien's universe, be it explicitly stated, implied, or even off-page is truly fascinating to behold, and Tuor's story is no exception. And I like to think that Tuor did indeed become immortal, for is there not an exception to every rule?
Tuor is my favorite character in Tolkien's lore (Turin not far behind). His early life, his wanderings, his quest, the events in Gondolin and the pivotal role he will play with his descendants... There's so much material to make this a mini-series.
Beren : I had to bring a Silmaril from Melkor himself in order to marrie Luthien , which resulted into me losing a hand and the death of Finrod! Tuor: That's rough, buddy!
@@arkcliref well obviously Aragorn was only moderately hot, because he still had to do a quest, just not a suicide quest (to be fair Elrond’s request for perfectly reasonable; he wanted Sauron to be vanquished and his daughter to be safe). But on the other hand, Beren was a hobo vegan with a bounty on his head. I wouldn’t let him near my daughter either.
His works seem to be inspired. Some Catholics strife to for his sainthood. Future generations could be talking about Saint Tolkien the patron of nerds.
"I am Tuor son of Huor of the House of Hador and the kindred of Hurin, and these names, I am told, are not unknown in the Hidden Kingdom." -- Tuor to Elemmakil in Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin
Tuor and Turin's meeting, of which Turin was unaware, is Tolkien's way of inviting his readers to compare the two cousins. The fact that Gelmir and Arminas from Cirdan also meet both brothers and discuss the differences between them with Turin in Nargothrond reinforces this intentional comparison between them. They were so similar but so different. Both royalty raised in exile by the elves, both lost their parents, both wanted revenge, both mighty warriors with a great fate ahead of them. But Turin had the greater sorrow; he knew what it was that he lost in his parents and their way of life in Dor-lomin, whereas Tuor had no memory of anything other than being raised in the caves with the elves. Turin lost his sister, his father, his mother and younger sister (as it seemed to him), his standing in Doriath, his best friend by his own hand, and eventually everything and everyone else. Perhaps most importantly and tragically though, Turin also had a different temperament where his own pride often led to the sad events that plagued him. Tuor, on the other hand, always responded with humility and wisdom to the situations that confronted him and followed the counsel of the Valar and the elves. Though his father Huor was not the eldest to receive rule in the house of Hador, his character led him to receive preeminence above Turin who was both the elder of the two and likely the mightier warrior. Tuor is what Turin could have been, apart from Morgoth's curse and his own pride. The meeting of the two happened after Turin had just failed in Nargothrond's outright assaults against Morgoth while Tuor followed different counsel and sought to secretly find his way to the hidden city of Gondolin. The darkness of the Tale of the Children of Hurin is rectified and avenged through another from the house of Hador by whom hope for all Middle Earth would come. This is what is so beautify about Tolkien's work. Though many stories in isolation seemingly lead to utter failure and despair, light breaks through and evil is defeated in the end.
Tuor is amazing character. He is wise and brave. And he is actually only person in Silmarilion which listen to advice of wiser (Ulmo, Idril), unlike Turgon and Thingol. I also like Idril. It was awsome when she put herself in to the armor and was ready to protect her son and the city.
Got goosebumps when Glorfindel's name came up, after seeing his video! I loooove it that NOTR covers so many characters, so hearing more about how and when their stories collide, I get all giddy!
Many thanks for this very clear and powerful account of Tuor and his heritage. It's been a while since I read The Silmarilion, and I really appreciate this refresher!
Even though the story of Tuor and Idril is well known to me, I thoroughly enjoyed your narration and visual array of artwork. A wonderful account sir, take a bow.
@@orfeas8 Eöl was a loner who got lucky that Aredhel wandered into his web and got caught. She was a liberal Elf chick so she was fine with having sex with her. The result was Maeglin. Elves are supposed to have soul mates. Neither Eöl nor Aredhel were soul mates of each other. So when Maeglin does unforgivable evil that causes the destruction of a city and the deaths of thousands of Elves, that should be no surprise.
I always wished Turin and Tuor would’ve become friends. Every golden boy needs a high strung friend lol. And I think Tuor would’ve balanced out Turin’s personality. Really the only character I ever envisioned being able to do that.
@@valentinkambushev4968 Yep. Turin was cursed to a life of pure misery. He would've only brought Tuor down. Although since Tuor was Ulmo's favourite pet, maybe he could've fought some of that bad mojo off?
Anything related about Gondolin is my favorite. I finished the book Fall of Gondolin few weeks ago and the depth of the story still linger in my heart.
So many beautiful interwoven stories, the smallest passing comment bring up so much on the other side of a brief interaction. Really a lesson in compassion for others now that I think about it. Don't judge people because somedays everyone feels like they are as cursed as Turin Turambar
Tuor and his coming to gondolin was always my favorite Tolkien story and tuor always my favorite character. Tuor meeting voronwe on the beach is so epic
because of videos like these i am able to zoom out and appreciate the tolkien universe. sometimes i pause these videos, or reading a book and look away and see minas tirith, the halls of mandos, the lake town, utumno, the trees, barad-dur, lives lived by various characters like legolas, strider's mom and dad, elrond, beren and luthien, galadriel etc with my mind's eyes.
Wow finally LOL Túrin and Tuor are my favorite Men of the Silmarillion Bro... The paralels between him and his cousin are Awesome(but Tuor don't "hardened his heart" with his pride like Túrin did), the father of the "Choosen one"(Earendil).
This is the one I've been waiting for the most. The travels of Tuor and the fall of Gondolin are some of my favorite stories ever told. Extra big thank you for this one!
Never before such cohesive storytelling. Not kidding. I was able to follow this and make sense of the relationships without distraction. And I’m not talking about my distracting fire starter in the back yard either. He’s been kind of boring lately although he , on his own, began reading The Hobbit this week. He gets side tracked by comparing the movies so this is gonna take awhile!
I HATE waiting more than one week to watch one of your videos but I LOVE being able to binge a few after falling behind on purpose. It’s hard work, fighting the weekly temptations😂 I love your work man, you do Tolkien justice, and I applaud your efforts.
After days listening to your videos (and In Deep Geek's), I'm so invested in all the Tolkien stories and the difference between Men and Elves that the fact that Tuor might have been indeed welcomed in Valinor, only one of the Men ever to be, brought tears to my eyes.
i love the way you tell a story. it really gets my heart touched. before watching this, i didn't realize that tuor was really an amazing character. but now, i feel like i must adore this man more! and the fall of gondolin part here got me goosebumps. can you please make a video about Andreth and Aegnor? that would be so fascinating 😭
This story makes me happy. It's a good story. Also, what i find impressive in Tolkien's works is that every named character has a backstory, those backstories interconnect and are integral in weaving the vibrant tapestry that is the universe in which these tales take place. Everything has a part to play in the grand design. It is reminiscent of the divine.
Every time I hear about certain aspects in the story I have to pause and explain it to other listeners BECAUSE 3 other events ties into what’s happening in that moment of the story. It’s crazy and complex storytelling yet awesome at the same time
Tuor's story, while still having some sad moments(his parents dying, being sold into slavery, and the Fall of Gondolin), still manages to be one of the most positive stories in the Silmarillion, a stark contrast to the tragic life that his cousin Turin led. Honestly, how Tolkien manages to weave both tragedy and hope together in such a beautiful and realistic way is just insane to me. Not to mention the worldbuilding is incredible. The only series that I can think of at the top of my head that can possibly rival Tolkien's worldbuilding is Star Wars, which just so happens to also feature stories of tragedy and hope. It's series like LOTR and Star Wars that really ask you what would have happened had things gone differently, which never fails to bring bittersweet feelings.
Absolutely! The themes of LotR and SW are almost identical. I've been a very passionate SW fan for my whole life, and a more casual fan of LotR, but the more I learn of Tolkien's Legendarium the more I realize how much inspiration George Lucas took from it. A huge difference of course is that while SW has had hundreds of authors to craft a massive interconnected expanded universe, Tolkien did it by himself. He was truly one of a kind, and only seems more incredible the more stories of his I read.
Man I love lotr, the lore is so rich and the stories are amazing and very thought of and not just written. JRR Tolkien is my favorite author and he is such and amazing world builder and lore maker.
Man, I was reading “Of Tuor and his coming to Gondolin” from Unfinished Tales, and, even giving my background knowledge of Tuor from the Fall of Gondolin chapter in the Silmarrilion (which really doesn’t go into much regarding his journey to Gondolin) I was struggling to keep up with all the details. This video definitely clears things up. Thank you Nerd!
Thanks for sharing this video about Tuor! I thought that I read somewhere that we can yet see Earendil's flying ship & Silmaril today as the planet Venus! :)
There are so many great stories in Tolkien's world! This could be a whole movie by itself! It's amazing how many characters and legends Tolkien wrote about. And all of them are connected to things in LotR, even if it's a passing reference.
As a 60+ yr old total LOTR geek, I really appreciate your series for its "fleshing out" of some of the more vague vains of the LOTR lore and presenting logical back-up for your theories. I also enjoyed your vid on the Blue Wizards, as they are the quintessential enigma in the LOTR landscape. He mentions their coming to Middle Erath, but says zero about them afterwards. Just strange! Why mention them at all, if you're not going to use them later on??? WTF?!? Its like a literary balk.
I love your videos. Perfect narration, the maps let you know where everything is happening, the art is brilliant, the artists in the fandom do amazing jobs, and all your videos end in since a satisfying way where you can tell it’s the end. I always pause there to just take everything in. Absolutely love your content, keep it up
I have heard this for the first time and, while there are countless stories in Tolkien's Legendarium of an epic and fantastically overwhelming quality, not the least the story of the Ring itself, to me personally that one, from start to finish, visually aided by these wonderful illustrations, seems to be the most perfect and moving of them all.
Amazing vídeo Bro, Tuor ( Im his age when him escape from dor lomin 19y), the tallest Man, father of "the Choosen one"(that by him the sons of Ilúvatar were saved).I think would be amazing to see him"preaching" to Turgon and Gondolin, slaying the Balrogs with Ecthelion and finally traveling to Valinor with his wife in theaters
@@joaoyochanan9927 The Children of Hurin is the most complete story, but it is a story of serial tragedies, one after another with very little time for fun and joy. Turin makes one catastrophic mistake after another, all because of the Curse of Morgoth. Is their really a large audience for such a story?
You sir, have re-ignited my love for Tolkiens works and the whole universe. Ive re read the hobbit, and now I'm in the middle of the two towers, of course after watching to your entire catalog lol. So thank you my friend!
Straight-up the happiest story you've told from Tolkien's writings. A happy ending, and a legacy that both achieves great height, and doesn't fade. Are there any magic items or creatures that ~don't~ get much coverage in other media (movies, games, etc.) that are in the books? You've covered rings, stones, and weapons. How about what, in D&D, would be called "wondrous items" ? Or creatures that everyone wonders about, but didn't get much more than a mention or two?
Great idea! I've often focused on things with longer stories to tell, but I think some more bite-sized vids on lesser known items would be a fun addition to the channel!
Do you think Tuor truly became immortal? Or is it merely a legend among the Elder and Edain?
In Tolkien, there are exceptions to many rules. So honestly it could go either way. But I like to believe he truly became immortal.
He is immortal! Because it's a cooler ending
@@TheCinderestBlockAround Same here. I love the language Tolkien uses. That he was sundered from the fate of Men.
I so wish WB makes a game like shaddow of Mordor,but its huor who is a ghost.
@@lordheklsmosh9490 🎵He has inside him blood of kings!🎵
I love that even though the elves didnt listen to Ulmo, Ulmo still protected the survivors of Gondolin. Good guy ulmo.
Yupe. Also Ulmo was the only Vala who still gave a crap for Middle-Earthers after the Noldor went crazy. And he was the one who said the other Valar when the elves awakened "hey, shouldn't we leave them live their lives wherever they want?" I guess Ulmo was really the good Vala, respecting free will and helping nonetheless
@@marcosfernandez6474 But they can't unfortunately since if they left the elves, Melkor be like: "Hippity hoppity the elves are my property".
@@marcosfernandez6474 what can i say, i love elves and men and i will help them when they need me. 😊😊😊
@@ulmo5193 That's very cash money of you Ulmo.
@@IudiciumInfernalum 😉😊
Tuor's story is literally THE most positive ending in The Silmarillion....unlike his valiant cousin.
To be fair, Hurin was the only man who told Morgoth to basically **** off, and got cursed for his efforts.
@@englishlady9797 and the children of hurin had to oay the highest cost, very depressing, but hey Turín turambar shall one Day get his revenge and kill the vala and all evil once and for all
Aye, it’s such an absolute opposite.
Agreed, his cousin's story is downright DEPRESSING!!!
@@englishlady9797 Hurin had some massive balls on him. The ending of the Battle of Unnumbered Tears is quite literally Hurin alone vs. the endless hordes of Morgoth. Guys fights till he's buried in bodies, then is brought before Evil Incarnate himself, and basically tells him, to his face, to go eat a dick lol. Non-stop Badass!!!
It seems like there is no end to the interesting, fascinating, and beautiful things that lay in the depths of Tolkien’s books. Just when you think you’ve heard everything interesting you’re proved wrong.
I mean yeah but, this is Tuor bro... just the silmarrilion
If you enjoyed the hobbit and or LOTR, read The Silmarillion. There you will be able to read these stories.
@@jiggadaboom I have, and the Children of Húrin, looking for Beren and Lúthien next
What's even more interesting was something in Christopher Tolkien's recently released editon of hte Fall of Gondolin. There's a note that says Earendil was a name given to Christ in one very obscure old Saxon poem, and that was where Tolkien got the inspiration from.
If you think these are shocking you should check out what the sun and moon REALLY are.
The fact that a single man could create a mythos as complex and as enthralling as all the Legends of Greece, Egypt, and Scandinavia is truely awe-inspiring! Tolkien is a true genius and no one can deny that.
P.S. Your narration of these stories are so BEAUTIFULLY well-done. Never stop doing this please!
Thanks so much for watching and subscribing! I have no plans to ever stop! :) I'm loving every minute of making these videos!
Don't forget that his son, Christopher, also spent a lifetime compiling and editing the works. Without him, the Silmarillion, Lost Tales, the Fall of Gondolin, the Children of Hurin, and others would never have been published
@@jeffkaplanjr8583 Even if they weren't published, the fact that J.R.R created them at all (vertually on his own) is incredible to me. Not to mention inspiring.
P.S. That's not to discredit Christopher. His devotion to his father's work is just as legendary as the work itself, no doubt about it!
To be fair, he uses a lot of those mythologies as a bases for his work. He didn't create these stories, he retold these stories.
@@doasido5757 He had a lot of inspirations of course but the stories themselves are wholly unique and not analagous to anything. Parts of the stories have applicability to outside sources sure, but they are in no way at all retellings or analogies.
In fact he despised merely using fiction to retell already existing stories. He very regularly criticised CS Lewis for making the Narnia series into essentially an analogy for the bible stories and wholeheartedly believed a story should stand by itself rather than lean on any of its inspirations.
It's amazing how interconnected Tolkien's world is. That light from Eärendil's star, the last surviving Silmaril, helped the Ring bearer on his quest (and vanquished the daughter of Ungoliant) is perfect.
That is wild! Wow!
The long payback. Hardly anything touches as much as reading the destruction of the Trees. It is just brutal.
I was thinking exactly the same , a life's work . Utterly amazing
Wait frodon light was a silmaril 😮
@@theflashgordon193 The light from Galadriel's "favourite star" caught in the waters of her fountain. That star is a slimaril, yes, born on the forehead of Eärendil as he sails the heavens.
People worship beren and luthien, aragorn and arwen, but they don't talk about these two. They are UNDERRATED
Great point! Tuor and Idril are definitely the under-appreciated Man-Elf couple!
I know it's pretty meaningless, but I like the fact that, unlike Lúthien and Arwen, Idril only has Elven ancestry (that we know of, and there's no reason to believe otherwise). So in my book they are the truest Man-Elf couple out there.
**Aegnor and Andreth messing up in the background intensifies**
To be fair, Luthien literally *gave up* immortality to be with Beren. And iirc, Arwen *is* likened to Luthien in the text.
But yeah, more love for the other man-elf couples would be nice.
@@thor30013 I would like to know more about Imrazor and Mithrellas.
I swear if TomDaBombadil19 stops donating, I'll riot.
I'm partial to Debbie
Lmao. He's there at the end of nearly every video. I'm beginning to think he's actually Tom bombadil. Ha ha ha.
He's a regular James Bissonette
@@YumYum820 man, I love that Debbie at the end. It’s like a full stop…. And Debbie.
@@steve8610 I understood this reference.
I can't get over how even minor characters in Tolkien's world are written leaps and bounds better then a lot of modern stories/shows. Truly Tolkien was toppest of tier!
@@MrRenanHappy Nah...definitely not...
Minor character?
That's because Tolkien polished his work over and over as opposed to most of today's writers who publish a second draft and call it a day. I'm thinking of those books that are 3 times longer than they need to be and where the author's name is bigger than than the title.
@@dlxmarks Yeah, Tolkien's publisher was quite frustrated waiting decades for the Hobbit sequel, then they got a way too thick book for a more mature audience and had to do more work to get it split into 6 books in 3 volumes that they could afford to publish despite knowing few would buy it anyway. But at least they got lucky with the sales figures.
Great topic brother! Love hearing about this legend of the First Age.
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The stories of Tuor and Turin are two of the most beautiful of all of Tolkien's stories. Turin's story is so utterly wretched and sad, and Tuor's is full of hope. The moment where Tuor catches sight of Turin for a brief moment on his travels is like one of those poignant moments in time. You are left with the feeling that things could have somehow been different, and yet at the same time feeling as though somehow they couldn't ever have turned out differently from how they did.
That Christopher chose these two stories alongside that of Beren and Luthien to make into longer works is understandable. They have a wonderfully poetic feel to them.
As an aside, what is the music for the first half of the video? It is a very good choice and very atmospheric and evocative.
The duality of their stories is fascinating. Literally a case of "There but for the grace of god go I". Tuor was favoured by the Gods, Turin cursed by them.
If I remember correctly, I think Christopher said his father considered the three of these stories to be the three “Great Tales” of the first age. They pretty much started Tolkien’s creating Middle-Earth being some of the earliest stories he wrote with early drafts of Gondolin being written on scraps in the trenches of WWI, and much of the history of the first age revolving around and culminating in them. It’s honestly a shame that Tolkien never finished and published a complete book about them considering how important they seemed to him and his writing, so it made me so happy that Christopher managed to compile his writings on them into single books as his last major contribution to his father’s writings.
@annan dune since you say that, have you read The Children of Hurin? When you read of young Turin speaking to Sador (even calling him Labadal was childish and so innocent t), it captures a great innocence and a quite poetic touch.
Narn i Hîn Húrin - "The Tale of the Children of Húrin" was ascribed to a man named Dírhaval, a poet who lived in the Havens of Sirion in the 1st age.
The word 'Narn' signifies the tale to be read as a verse, though spoken not sung.
I loved how the two stories interconnected when Tuor passed by Turin Turambar in the wild!
It’s a pretty cool moment!
Tuor's brief encounter with Turin was so cool-even when I first read it in the Silmarillion over 25 years ago.
Damn Elrond has the coolest family...
God I'd love to see an adaptation of the fall of Gondolin. Great video as always!
That's why I am so low-grade pissed at Amazon for starting in the Second Age. The Fall of Gondolin and the events leading directly up to it would definitely one of the most dramatic and cinematic shows ever made!
Edit: I love the fact Amazon is finally doing a full Tokien show, and honestly can't wait to see it!
That’s actually not on Amazon. They were allowed to purchase the rights to the Second Age. I get the feeling the Tolkien Estate is more protective of the First Age - with good reason. Hopefully Amazon knocks it out of the park and it opens the door for First Age stories!
@@NerdoftheRings Thank you for clearing that up! And like I said, I'm SUPER looking forward to the show! Even if they have to release the First Age as Second Season material it'd be MORE than worth it!
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So far, it looks like Amazon knocked Tolkien out of the park 😢
Christopher refused to make a complete story if the Fall if Gondolin, so what would that look like if Bezos got his hands on the film rights? I would rather never find out.
Tuor is amazing. He is just as powerful as his cousin Turin. They are like the two sides of a coin. One walked the light way, joining the elves, married a princess, saved the people of Gondolin and in the end became immortal, the other walked a darker path, became an outcast for some time, but still managed to kill Glaurung (who was in the top 3 threats in the first age in my opinion). Such an amazing family!
Tuor was blessed while Turin was cursed. Tuor got his Elven princess, Turin's wannabe Elven lady got killed because of him. And he ended marrying his own sister. Tuor tried to save his hidden city and failed. Turin revealed his and saw it destroyed for it. Tuor's descendants became famous and kings of Elf and Man. Turin's disappeared.
@@xhagast Turin and his family were cursed because his captured father Hurin defied Morgoth and stayed true to the Elves when, even under great torture, he refused to disclose the location of Gondolin. Enraged at Hurin's defiance and strength of will, Morgoth put a significant portion of his Power as a Vala into the Curse on Hurin's family, but he was thereby diminished in power by that same portion. Although Turin and those in his orbit suffered terribly due to The Curse, Morgoth's power also suffered reciprocally in order to fulfill it. On its face, it may appear that Huor's line is more blessed than Hurin's, but Tolkien writes that at the world's ending, Turin and his kin will have ultimate justice for their many sufferings when, during the Battle of the Dagor Dagorath, Turin will destroy Morgoth in single combat, whereupon and his family will finally inherit the highly honored place in the world that follows which Fate had dealt them (a place of honor very dearly earned indeed).
@@xhagast Turin is known as Elf-Friend so he must have done something good to earn that title. The stories in the legendarium vary in origin. The story we get from Turin might not be the whole truth.
@@xhagast Turin is a kind of mix between the Finnish anti hero Kullervo and Wagner's Siegmund
@@kamion53 Very likely. The guy who does all he can and still gets all the trouble of the world poured on his head. A lot like Oedipus.
Glorfindel went out like a boss. You have to respect that.
When Tolkien's words play like old memory, more than written fiction. Oh what a longing I am left with...
I swear, when I read the last words by Huor to Turgon I cry EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. The most beautiful words *ever* spoken in The Children of Húrin, my favorite book… 😭💔
I haven't read it but that part of the video, knowing full well he was going to die, and he lays his life down for his friend....with no fear...I hope to be as brave in my ending
@@YumYum820 Many of the companionships (whether by friend, family or marriage) in Tolkien’s books are like NO other. I wish this kind of sacrificial love were more common between people in the world nowadays… It’s becoming more like things you only read about in fantasy books….
@@annaanisa7388 Tolkiens effort was to preserve a part of the world that we lost through 500 years of modernisation. Starting with the reformation everything in the West started to fall apart. Yet I don't think we have reached the bottum just yet.
@@universalflamethrower6342 your words echoe stronger two years later, yet there is hope my friend. Upon the darkest of hours, heroes will be born again.
Finally someone that listens to the Valar, and heeds their warnings.
So many compelling moments within Tolkien's universe, be it explicitly stated, implied, or even off-page is truly fascinating to behold, and Tuor's story is no exception. And I like to think that Tuor did indeed become immortal, for is there not an exception to every rule?
Tolken is definitely one of the best authors of all time. I cant think of anyone that could possibly be a rival
The dogs that follow Tuor and get sent back is actually hilarious to me. Goodest bois.
Tuor is my favorite character in Tolkien's lore (Turin not far behind). His early life, his wanderings, his quest, the events in Gondolin and the pivotal role he will play with his descendants... There's so much material to make this a mini-series.
Beren : I had to bring a Silmaril from Melkor himself in order to marrie Luthien , which resulted into me losing a hand and the death of Finrod!
Tuor: That's rough, buddy!
It helped that Tuor rolled in with Ulmo’s blessing and gifts to give him some street cred.
Tuor was way hotter than Beren. That automatically exempts him from doing the whole quest thing.
@@therealelderking5830 so Aragorn (descended from both) is in the middle because Elrond's challenge isn't as insane as Thingol's?
@@arkcliref well obviously Aragorn was only moderately hot, because he still had to do a quest, just not a suicide quest (to be fair Elrond’s request for perfectly reasonable; he wanted Sauron to be vanquished and his daughter to be safe).
But on the other hand, Beren was a hobo vegan with a bounty on his head. I wouldn’t let him near my daughter either.
Luthien was also half maia, not just an elf, tho.. 🤔
The immensity of Tolkien's work is just staggering. So many stories perfectly melted together.
Great video
His works seem to be inspired. Some Catholics strife to for his sainthood. Future generations could be talking about Saint Tolkien the patron of nerds.
"I am Tuor son of Huor of the House of Hador and the kindred of Hurin, and these names, I am told, are not unknown in the Hidden Kingdom." -- Tuor to Elemmakil in Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin
Tuor and Turin's meeting, of which Turin was unaware, is Tolkien's way of inviting his readers to compare the two cousins. The fact that Gelmir and Arminas from Cirdan also meet both brothers and discuss the differences between them with Turin in Nargothrond reinforces this intentional comparison between them. They were so similar but so different. Both royalty raised in exile by the elves, both lost their parents, both wanted revenge, both mighty warriors with a great fate ahead of them. But Turin had the greater sorrow; he knew what it was that he lost in his parents and their way of life in Dor-lomin, whereas Tuor had no memory of anything other than being raised in the caves with the elves. Turin lost his sister, his father, his mother and younger sister (as it seemed to him), his standing in Doriath, his best friend by his own hand, and eventually everything and everyone else.
Perhaps most importantly and tragically though, Turin also had a different temperament where his own pride often led to the sad events that plagued him. Tuor, on the other hand, always responded with humility and wisdom to the situations that confronted him and followed the counsel of the Valar and the elves. Though his father Huor was not the eldest to receive rule in the house of Hador, his character led him to receive preeminence above Turin who was both the elder of the two and likely the mightier warrior. Tuor is what Turin could have been, apart from Morgoth's curse and his own pride. The meeting of the two happened after Turin had just failed in Nargothrond's outright assaults against Morgoth while Tuor followed different counsel and sought to secretly find his way to the hidden city of Gondolin. The darkness of the Tale of the Children of Hurin is rectified and avenged through another from the house of Hador by whom hope for all Middle Earth would come. This is what is so beautify about Tolkien's work. Though many stories in isolation seemingly lead to utter failure and despair, light breaks through and evil is defeated in the end.
This is so beautiful to read. Well-written and great job tying all the intricacies of Tuor and Turin together.
The Fall of Gondolin is one of my favorite parts of the First Age. This always reminds me of Blind Guardian's song "Thorn"
Tuor is amazing character. He is wise and brave. And he is actually only person in Silmarilion which listen to advice of wiser (Ulmo, Idril), unlike Turgon and Thingol.
I also like Idril. It was awsome when she put herself in to the armor and was ready to protect her son and the city.
This play by play on this character helped immensely!!
The meeting between him and Ulmo needs to happen on a movie screen; someone make this happen
So glad this video was helpful! He’s a great character that I’d love to see on the screen someday!
Mo' of Ulmo. That's what we need.😁
Finally! I've been asking for this since the Elder Days.
Tuor's story (and many others) is worthy of a live adaptation!
Got goosebumps when Glorfindel's name came up, after seeing his video! I loooove it that NOTR covers so many characters, so hearing more about how and when their stories collide, I get all giddy!
Many thanks for this very clear and powerful account of Tuor and his heritage. It's been a while since I read The Silmarilion, and I really appreciate this refresher!
Thanks so much! Glad this video was a good summary for you to recall your time in the Silmarillion!
Even though the story of Tuor and Idril is well known to me, I thoroughly enjoyed your narration and visual array of artwork. A wonderful account sir, take a bow.
Your reading makes me so excited for the prospect of having movies based on your exposition.
The story of that lineage always brings tears to my eyes. Its so beautiful.
Story of Tuor and Gondolin is perfect for a movie adaptation💙
" And he was upon Meglin and his wrath was terrible.." KEEP up the great work! ECTHELION!!!!
And thus the evil bloodline of Eol ended....
@@Enerdhil nah, i wouldn't call Eol "evil"
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Nande?
@@Enerdhil I think he was more egoistic and ignorant of the big picture and evils of the world.
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Eöl was a loner who got lucky that Aredhel wandered into his web and got caught. She was a liberal Elf chick so she was fine with having sex with her. The result was Maeglin. Elves are supposed to have soul mates. Neither Eöl nor Aredhel were soul mates of each other. So when Maeglin does unforgivable evil that causes the destruction of a city and the deaths of thousands of Elves, that should be no surprise.
I often weave in the evenings/overnights while listening to you tell the stories of Middle Earth. It's lovely.
I always wished Turin and Tuor would’ve become friends. Every golden boy needs a high strung friend lol. And I think Tuor would’ve balanced out Turin’s personality. Really the only character I ever envisioned being able to do that.
Turin would have brought only misery and death to Tuor . Even staying close to Turin is dangerous.
Beleg balanced Túrin very well...
@@valentinkambushev4968 Yep. Turin was cursed to a life of pure misery. He would've only brought Tuor down. Although since Tuor was Ulmo's favourite pet, maybe he could've fought some of that bad mojo off?
I love the first age mythos. Morgoth is the best villain in the history of fantasy.
Awesome job as always!!!!
I was so excited to see tuor was the video topic !
The amount of details and lore Tolkien made is just mind blowing and amazing!
Anything related about Gondolin is my favorite. I finished the book Fall of Gondolin few weeks ago and the depth of the story still linger in my heart.
So many beautiful interwoven stories, the smallest passing comment bring up so much on the other side of a brief interaction. Really a lesson in compassion for others now that I think about it. Don't judge people because somedays everyone feels like they are as cursed as Turin Turambar
Tuor and his coming to gondolin was always my favorite Tolkien story and tuor always my favorite character. Tuor meeting voronwe on the beach is so epic
Tuor's family's story is in my opinion is one of the most interesting part of Tolkien's writing.
because of videos like these i am able to zoom out and appreciate the tolkien universe. sometimes i pause these videos, or reading a book and look away and see minas tirith, the halls of mandos, the lake town, utumno, the trees, barad-dur, lives lived by various characters like legolas, strider's mom and dad, elrond, beren and luthien, galadriel etc with my mind's eyes.
Wow finally LOL Túrin and Tuor are my favorite Men of the Silmarillion Bro...
The paralels between him and his cousin are Awesome(but Tuor don't "hardened his heart" with his pride like Túrin did), the father of the "Choosen one"(Earendil).
This is the one I've been waiting for the most. The travels of Tuor and the fall of Gondolin are some of my favorite stories ever told.
Extra big thank you for this one!
Man. I've read the Silmarillion a few times but you still bring clarity to my memories of it. Thank you.
Never before such cohesive storytelling. Not kidding. I was able to follow this and make sense of the relationships without distraction. And I’m not talking about my distracting fire starter in the back yard either. He’s been kind of boring lately although he , on his own, began reading The Hobbit this week. He gets side tracked by comparing the movies so this is gonna take awhile!
Amazing how Tolkien's work comes together so beautifully
Tuors story is so amazing - he is worthy of a life with in valinor
Glorfindel vs the Balrog would be an epic battle to watch. I mean honestly the whole fall of Gondolin would be an awesome movie.
They should do first age movies. But they would need to be very well done and limited in scope.
One of my favorite stories of Arda and Middle Earth! Thanks!
Wow! I'm getting tears in my eyes... What a beautiful and truly magical story!
I HATE waiting more than one week to watch one of your videos but I LOVE being able to binge a few after falling behind on purpose. It’s hard work, fighting the weekly temptations😂 I love your work man, you do Tolkien justice, and I applaud your efforts.
I’ve got some bonus mid-week vids coming these next couple weeks, so you’ll have 2x NOTR per week for a bit!
@@NerdoftheRings YOU DAH MAN!(I do an awful job of liking the videos, I’ll work on that haha)
After days listening to your videos (and In Deep Geek's), I'm so invested in all the Tolkien stories and the difference between Men and Elves that the fact that Tuor might have been indeed welcomed in Valinor, only one of the Men ever to be, brought tears to my eyes.
Excellent summation of the story of Tuor. Namarie.
i love the way you tell a story. it really gets my heart touched. before watching this, i didn't realize that tuor was really an amazing character. but now, i feel like i must adore this man more! and the fall of gondolin part here got me goosebumps. can you please make a video about Andreth and Aegnor? that would be so fascinating 😭
The voice. The edit. The story. Nerd of the Rings deserve so much more. I enjoy those videos almost every saturday night. Thank you!
We are counting on those videos, Matt. Thanks for your hard work!
The FIRST AGE is so dark for Humans... tragedies one after another... So depressing
This story makes me happy. It's a good story. Also, what i find impressive in Tolkien's works is that every named character has a backstory, those backstories interconnect and are integral in weaving the vibrant tapestry that is the universe in which these tales take place. Everything has a part to play in the grand design. It is reminiscent of the divine.
Every time I hear about certain aspects in the story I have to pause and explain it to other listeners BECAUSE 3 other events ties into what’s happening in that moment of the story. It’s crazy and complex storytelling yet awesome at the same time
I always thought Tuor and Idril to be such an underrated power couple!
Such a beautiful story... It's so amazing I wish it had happened in real life...
Just finished reading Tuor's story in Unfinished Tales. This is a really beautiful summary video.
You and TolkienUntangled are my favorite Tolkinians 😂. Im always listening to either one while at work or even at the gym 😂.
Tuor's story, while still having some sad moments(his parents dying, being sold into slavery, and the Fall of Gondolin), still manages to be one of the most positive stories in the Silmarillion, a stark contrast to the tragic life that his cousin Turin led.
Honestly, how Tolkien manages to weave both tragedy and hope together in such a beautiful and realistic way is just insane to me. Not to mention the worldbuilding is incredible. The only series that I can think of at the top of my head that can possibly rival Tolkien's worldbuilding is Star Wars, which just so happens to also feature stories of tragedy and hope. It's series like LOTR and Star Wars that really ask you what would have happened had things gone differently, which never fails to bring bittersweet feelings.
Absolutely! The themes of LotR and SW are almost identical. I've been a very passionate SW fan for my whole life, and a more casual fan of LotR, but the more I learn of Tolkien's Legendarium the more I realize how much inspiration George Lucas took from it.
A huge difference of course is that while SW has had hundreds of authors to craft a massive interconnected expanded universe, Tolkien did it by himself.
He was truly one of a kind, and only seems more incredible the more stories of his I read.
Tuor is my favorite character in the first age. The very moment he meet Ulmo is such a powerful narrative, that a always feel chilly down my spine.
I love how both father and son have somewhat happy lives and have happy endings
Man I love lotr, the lore is so rich and the stories are amazing and very thought of and not just written. JRR Tolkien is my favorite author and he is such and amazing world builder and lore maker.
Man, I was reading “Of Tuor and his coming to Gondolin” from Unfinished Tales, and, even giving my background knowledge of Tuor from the Fall of Gondolin chapter in the Silmarrilion (which really doesn’t go into much regarding his journey to Gondolin) I was struggling to keep up with all the details. This video definitely clears things up. Thank you Nerd!
Thanks for sharing this video about Tuor! I thought that I read somewhere that we can yet see Earendil's flying ship & Silmaril today as the planet Venus! :)
Your videos rekindle my love and fascination of Tolkien’s great houses. The way these lineages meet through the ages is a kind of artistry.
You are best lord of the rings Chanel on youtube
Thanks so much! ☺️
There are so many great stories in Tolkien's world! This could be a whole movie by itself! It's amazing how many characters and legends Tolkien wrote about. And all of them are connected to things in LotR, even if it's a passing reference.
As a 60+ yr old total LOTR geek, I really appreciate your series for its "fleshing out" of some of the more vague vains of the LOTR lore and presenting logical back-up for your theories. I also enjoyed your vid on the Blue Wizards, as they are the quintessential enigma in the LOTR landscape. He mentions their coming to Middle Erath, but says zero about them afterwards. Just strange! Why mention them at all, if you're not going to use them later on??? WTF?!? Its like a literary balk.
I'm impressed you blended both versions of *The Fall of Gondolin!* Well done.
I love your videos. Perfect narration, the maps let you know where everything is happening, the art is brilliant, the artists in the fandom do amazing jobs, and all your videos end in since a satisfying way where you can tell it’s the end. I always pause there to just take everything in. Absolutely love your content, keep it up
So many potentials for movies or tv series it surprises me that no one made a series or films of the first age
None ever made for Christopher was alive and did not allow it
Tolkiens left us a lifetime of stories, I wish we could have more series about Tolkien's lore!!!
I read the books many moons ago but you have really brought the books to life! U have a skill!!!!
I have heard this for the first time and, while there are countless stories in Tolkien's Legendarium of an epic and fantastically overwhelming quality, not the least the story of the Ring itself, to me personally that one, from start to finish, visually aided by these wonderful illustrations, seems to be the most perfect and moving of them all.
I watched this again because it is so good.
the art in this episode is phenomenal, esp. the meeting with Ulmo at the edge of the sea.
Thank you for your awesome channel !! Your pronunciations are impressive :) Greetings from Mount Juliet (near Nashville), Tennessee
Amazing vídeo Bro, Tuor ( Im his age when him escape from dor lomin 19y), the tallest Man, father of "the Choosen one"(that by him the sons of Ilúvatar were saved).I think would be amazing to see him"preaching" to Turgon and Gondolin, slaying the Balrogs with Ecthelion and finally traveling to Valinor with his wife in theaters
This would be more than three movies.
@@Enerdhil yeah bro, I think "the Fall of Gondolin" and "Children of Húrin" would be awesome trilogys
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The Children of Hurin is the most complete story, but it is a story of serial tragedies, one after another with very little time for fun and joy. Turin makes one catastrophic mistake after another, all because of the Curse of Morgoth. Is their really a large audience for such a story?
You sir, have re-ignited my love for Tolkiens works and the whole universe. Ive re read the hobbit, and now I'm in the middle of the two towers, of course after watching to your entire catalog lol. So thank you my friend!
I’ve been a diehard fan of this movie since day one I can listen to you talk about this stuff all day lol
One of my favorite characters! I’ve been waiting for this one.
Glad I could get this vid for you! Tuor has been a very popular request and it was overdue!
Thats was superb, love that story bro.
Tolkien was a genius. Amazingly, almost magically creative.
Such a beautiful story! Wow!
“If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.” - Thorin Oakenshield
" Day will come again". I reminded myself of that a lot in 2020.
Such a good story. I loved the duality of tuor and Turin.
Straight-up the happiest story you've told from Tolkien's writings. A happy ending, and a legacy that both achieves great height, and doesn't fade.
Are there any magic items or creatures that ~don't~ get much coverage in other media (movies, games, etc.) that are in the books? You've covered rings, stones, and weapons. How about what, in D&D, would be called "wondrous items" ? Or creatures that everyone wonders about, but didn't get much more than a mention or two?
Great idea! I've often focused on things with longer stories to tell, but I think some more bite-sized vids on lesser known items would be a fun addition to the channel!