The Slovenian Language and History [Language Digest]

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  • Slovenian, Slovene, or Slovenski Jezik is an Indo European language spoken in Slovenia. We at KOJII Languages hope that this video serves as a comprehensive overview to both the language and the history surrounding the language itself.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 106

  • @valentintapata2268
    @valentintapata2268 3 роки тому +30

    Slovenian is a mix of West Slavic and South Slavic, but because of historic reasons it became closer to South Slavic.

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 2 роки тому +1

      It isn`t mixof western and south Slavic languages, but it is more archaic. It has some features,which they are just in Sanskrit. Even some words, for an example Dežela. It is just in Sanskrit and Asian languages from Hindi language. Also name Bangladesh has the same word - desh - whichmeansthe same - country. Also numbering from 20 to 99 isn`t influenced by German language, but from Sanskrit. By the way, Slovene is more archaick as German.

    • @valentintapata2268
      @valentintapata2268 2 роки тому +2

      @@bojanstare8667 Slovenian is not, and could not be, influenced by Sanskrt, but they are both Indo-European and It could be that Slavic Languages are closer to Sanskrt than other members of Indo-European family. It is true however that Slovenian is a very arhaic language and Sanskrt is a very old one, but they did not influenced each other, they simply have a common ancestor language.
      Historic teritory of Alpine or Carantanian Slavs who were ancestors of today Slovenes was settled in two big migration waves, first was from the North-East and the second was from the South-East, later they also settled on Karstic platoe, parts of Littoral Slovenia, Istria and so on... Some very minor diferences among the language of these Slavic groups could already existed, in case of Slovenes there could be a fusion of them and because Slovenian is an uncommonly arhaic language we can today still see many of the residues of the Old Slavic.

    • @nylixneylix8785
      @nylixneylix8785 2 роки тому

      No, it's not a mix, it's south.

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 2 роки тому

      @@valentintapata2268 OK, where in Slavic world you can find word dežela? Where in Slavic world you can find full dual form? Just in descendant of Venedi - Sorbian and descendant of Veneti - Slovene. And of course in Sanskrit. Do you know who was the biggest buyers of Amber? India. And who was the seller? Venedi and Veneti. Both of both ends of Amber road. Both they were good sailors (same as Armiorica Veneti) and loved horses. And also steel. How surpising. And Germans have named all tribes on Amber road as Wenden, Windischer or Wends. And all Slavic people on the border of Slavic world have had names Slovenci, Slovinci, Sloveni etc. From Adriatic to the Baltic and even on Ilmen lake. Also on the border with east Roman empire (Sklabenoi).

  • @quinoa5615
    @quinoa5615 Рік тому

    Thank you for the brake down, made everything more simple.

  • @JeboGlavu
    @JeboGlavu 3 роки тому +9

    When u hear that music at start, u know its slovenia time. Love from slovenia & bosnia ❤️

    • @kojii6659
      @kojii6659  3 роки тому +1

      I tried my best to make it fit the video!

  • @alexs7189
    @alexs7189 3 роки тому +18

    Respect from italy, sorry for the past.(italian invasion world war 2)
    🇸🇮❤️🇮🇹

    • @zan6518
      @zan6518 3 роки тому +1

      did you participate in the invasion?

    • @alexs7189
      @alexs7189 3 роки тому

      Hello, of course not, are you Slovenian?

    • @zan6518
      @zan6518 3 роки тому +2

      @@alexs7189 then idk why'd feel sorry about it, yes

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 2 роки тому

      @@alexs7189 He/she is Italian with still nationalistic aspect.

    • @nylixneylix8785
      @nylixneylix8785 2 роки тому

      @@bojanstare8667 No he's not. We're friends with Italy.

  • @zala_sporar
    @zala_sporar Рік тому +2

    Mmmm... Eh-eh. It's a bit more complicated than that. We have genders for the objects too. You wouldn't just say "moj noga". "Noga" is a feminine object. So you would go mojA noga for 1, Moji nogi for 2, Moje noge for 3-4 and mojih nog for 5 or more. And also don't forget the IRDTMO. Aka: Kdo ali kaj, koga ali česa, komu ali čemu, koga ali kaj, o kom ali o čem and s kom ali s čim. Also there are some words like GOL and GOL. No, they don't mean the same thing, they're pronounced differently and you have to extract what it means from the context. Same with PRST and PRST. They look the same, they sound the same, but one means dirt and the other one means finger.

  • @timno2639
    @timno2639 3 роки тому +8

    moja noga ,moje noge ,moji nogi
    i was kinda trigerd by you saying moj

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 2 роки тому

      Slovene language has a lot of prefix and sufix. Moj is root of word. Moja, moji, moje have different sufix for number - singular, dual and plural. But this is quite simple. You have to see different forms of verbs. Moj means my.
      for man for woman
      I am Jaz sem
      You are Ti si
      He, she, it is On, ona, ono je
      We for two Midva sva Medve sva
      You for two Vidva sta Vedve sta
      They for two Onadva sta Onidve sta
      We are Mi smo Me smo
      You are Vi ste Ve ste
      They are Oni so One so
      Where is blank for feminil, it is the same.

  • @kremsnita446
    @kremsnita446 11 місяців тому +2

    As a Slovenian, its not moj noga its moja noga, its also not moj noge its moje noge and also also not moj nogi but moji nogi, just saying❤ epic vid

    • @kojii6659
      @kojii6659  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for your feedback. I really enjoy hearing a native person's take on these videos.

  • @blackmamba015
    @blackmamba015 3 роки тому +1

    I love this! By any chance could we get a Albanian video?

    • @kojii6659
      @kojii6659  3 роки тому +1

      Currently on the road traveling, and with my primary business keeping my hands full as well as moving to a new apartment I have had almost no time for KOJII, but Albanian is what I will work on once I finish a video for Mongolian which is in the works. Thank you for your support man!

    • @blackmamba015
      @blackmamba015 3 роки тому

      @@kojii6659 Of course dude! Congrats on the new apartment and thank you for all the hard work you put in!!!

  • @gasperhorzen6867
    @gasperhorzen6867 2 роки тому +1

    Forgot this. I'm in the 6th grade and slovene is the hardest subject to me beside math. Trust me when I say slovenian is very very hard! We have 6 nouns, 3 adjectives, 3 adverbs and verbs. Each of them have like 1000000000000000 questionnaires.

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 2 роки тому +1

      Have you meant 6 cases of nouns (Serbian has 7), 3 different numbers also of verbs and adjectives.

    • @zagrizena
      @zagrizena 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@bojanstare8667 probably, yes. We don't have vocative here. But we do have 3 tenses (roughly), 3 grammatical genders, 3 grammatical numbers and 5 different declination systems, that are specific to grammatical gender of the noun. We also match gender, number and case of the adjectives to the noun and the gender and number of the verb to the subject as in most Slavic languages. Thus the sentence structure is implied by the suffixes and word order is less important for comprehension.

  • @vuhdeem
    @vuhdeem 6 місяців тому

    "Dnes sije sonce" is not SVO. "Today shines sun." Sun is the object. "Shines" is the verb. "Today" is the adverb, not the subject. There is no object in the sentence. Also, the possessive noun determiner "moj," has to match its noun. Moj, moji, moje

  • @yeo4725
    @yeo4725 2 роки тому +1

    I speak Croatian natively and I don't know Slovene, but the way he explained formal personal pronoun bugs me. Is it written lower-case or upper-case?

  • @gasperhorzen6867
    @gasperhorzen6867 2 роки тому +1

    Im from Slovenia

  • @marijapodhraski5091
    @marijapodhraski5091 2 роки тому +1

    Day is dan in slovinia

  • @Middlestepofficial
    @Middlestepofficial 4 місяці тому

    You forgot to mention the Montenegrin language. It's certified in the ISO standardization as an independent language as well. Same with Bosnian. Despite striking similarities between each other, Serbian, Montenegrin, Bosnian and Croatian are considered different languages even if there are a few words in difference.

  • @janbajcfuna
    @janbajcfuna 2 роки тому +1

    cool video but a lot of mistakes in the examples of cases and dual structure

  • @nuranarrowood5808
    @nuranarrowood5808 3 роки тому

    a long time ago when I was travelling by train stoped at Zagreb there were Turkish speaking people was there

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 3 роки тому +1

      Also in UK you will see first taxi driver who will be Pakistani. lol

  • @matejgregoric8820
    @matejgregoric8820 3 роки тому +6

    moje noge

  • @kenny10222
    @kenny10222 2 роки тому +1

    its mojE noge and mojI nogi

  • @imperatorscientiaestpotent8403
    @imperatorscientiaestpotent8403 2 роки тому +2

    Slovenia: No German influence here!
    Also Slovenia: LoOk At My NuMbErS

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 2 роки тому

      You don`t know who has used first that feature. Slovene is more archaic than German language. That kind of numbering Slovene language became from Sanskrit and not from German language. Slovene has also 6 cases of nouns, German has just 4 and without sufix.

    • @JustMe-uc8wj
      @JustMe-uc8wj Рік тому

      Let me ask you,how would you count how many sheep are in the herd?Would it be one,two three and so on until you count them all or would you go there's fifty and one,two,three...?

  • @vojtehurbancic6113
    @vojtehurbancic6113 10 місяців тому

    The author has no idea about the Slovenian language, as some have already pointed out. Commentators have already mentioned errors in the declension of the noun 'foot', the declension of the phrase 'dobro dan' is also incorrect. The correct word is, of course, 'dober dan', for 'dan' is masculine, not neuter.
    I don't think you should be on UA-cam with such a poor knowledge of the language, which you are trying to present.

  • @Vininn126
    @Vininn126 3 роки тому +4

    the lack of gender in the possessive pronouns really threw me off
    how is "today shines sun" svo? wouldn't that be adverb verb subject?

    • @kojii6659
      @kojii6659  3 роки тому +3

      Oh boy, this is really tricky and I'll give you my answer but take it lightly...
      "today" is an adverb you're correct. But the sun is shining ON that day, so it's (in my opinion) the subject.

    • @VendPrekmurec
      @VendPrekmurec 3 роки тому +2

      "today shines sun": danes sije sonce. 2 suns would be: "danes sijeta sonci". 3 suns would be: danes so sijala sonca. You also have to know how to conjugate words in dual for 2 women, 1 man and 1 woman.

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 2 роки тому

      In Slovene language is not so regular -SVO. Sometimes is subject hiden in verb. That`s way our language is so complex in prefix and sufix. From verb you know gender and numver of subjects. So sometimes you don`t need to tell subjects - instead SVO you just use VO sentence. Story with sentence - Danes sije sonce. - is more complex. It is the same as I say: Včeraj sem prišel domov. Direct translation in English: Yesterday came home. Strickly VO sentence. That is valid for man. For woman is sentence: Včeraj sem prišla domov. As you see sufix -la determine gender. For number goes so: Včeraj sva prišla domov. Means two of us (sva - it is part of verb, not subject) came home. And it is also more complex, because verb is in two words sva and prišla. And prišla is the same as for feminile and singular, but in this case is masculin and dual. Yeah, I know. Slovene language is very complex and hard to learn. But when you learn it, it is very logical and natural.
      Maybe you could see (OK hear) how American from Boston has had problems with Slovene language. 🙂
      ua-cam.com/video/cUkkW7cauPE/v-deo.html

  • @gasperhorzen6867
    @gasperhorzen6867 2 роки тому +3

    You pronounce my language very funny becaouse you dont know how to pronounce it

    • @kojii6659
      @kojii6659  2 роки тому +4

      Had I known you sooner I would have asked you to pronounce things for me :(

  • @caus39
    @caus39 Рік тому +1

    Btw

  • @ВоваЛаос
    @ВоваЛаос 11 місяців тому

    Za tri dana !

  • @ВоваЛаос
    @ВоваЛаос 11 місяців тому

    Здрастє!

  • @milanambroz2809
    @milanambroz2809 2 роки тому +2

    You don't know anything about Slovenian language. Your grammar is totally incorect.

  • @HibikiKano
    @HibikiKano Рік тому

    moja noga
    moji nogi
    moje noge
    Pronouns also follow number, case, and gender.

  • @bojanrubin426
    @bojanrubin426 2 роки тому +1

    Moji nogi mojanoga moje noge me slo lol

  • @nuranarrowood5808
    @nuranarrowood5808 3 роки тому

    I remember the history I bet First Lady Melania mix with otomans

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 3 роки тому

      It is opposite. Otomans have a lot of Slavs blood in their blood. Even a lot of Great Vezirs were Slavs.

  • @bread9815
    @bread9815 3 роки тому +1

    Ok a je tuki sploh kdo drug ko ni slovenc

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 2 роки тому +1

      Turek. Je napisal, da je Melania turškega rodu. :-)

    • @bread9815
      @bread9815 2 роки тому +1

      @@bojanstare8667 bi bil vesel, če bi blo res

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 2 роки тому +1

      @@bread9815 Nema veze. Je sama rekla, da je Avstrijka. Sicer je pa v Avstriji veliko Turkov. Tako, da je vse možno.

    • @bread9815
      @bread9815 2 роки тому +1

      @@bojanstare8667 v vsakem primeru je poročena s trupom tko da mi je še bolj všeč če reče da je iz Avstrije

  • @mirjana5514
    @mirjana5514 3 роки тому +2

    Josip bros tito was a terrible person to slovenia the people were shot if they had good land and the soldiers and veterans were treated like garbage the mines where miners worked were flodded for the fun of it with the miners in them by titos men

    • @bread9815
      @bread9815 2 роки тому

      Dej odjebi nazaj v Argentino domobranc

  • @EvilSmonker
    @EvilSmonker 3 роки тому +5

    Slovenia is the smallest country in all of the world. I think they should go annex Serbia, Romania, Italy. They have historical claims on that land. Thank you very much sir, love to Slovenia from Bangladesh.

    • @thenotsofriendlybird957
      @thenotsofriendlybird957 3 роки тому +6

      San Marino, Vatican, Andora, Monaco, Liechtenstein and many more are smaller. But yeah they took quite some land from us. Unfair that Germans got their land and we did not.

    • @nuranarrowood5808
      @nuranarrowood5808 3 роки тому

      still today at Slovenia lot of Turkish villages

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 3 роки тому

      @@nuranarrowood5808 MOt in Slovenia, but in Bosnia. It is a quite far from Slovenia. And in SLovenia is much more of Chinese people that Turcs.

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 3 роки тому +3

      ou forget Austria. :D Most part of Austria is derived from Slovene state inm middle ages - Caranthania. And it is a funny fact of Bangladesh. Desh has the same root and meaning as Dežela - word in Slovene language. Dežala means country. And Stan like Pakistan means home.

    • @crsx1861
      @crsx1861 2 роки тому +1

      Serbia and Romania don't even share a border. What you meant is probably Austria and Croatia

  • @nuranarrowood5808
    @nuranarrowood5808 3 роки тому

    yugaslvya

  • @nuranarrowood5808
    @nuranarrowood5808 3 роки тому

    like a russci

  • @miglius1992
    @miglius1992 3 роки тому +1

    So basically they never existed as Slovenians...They don't seem to have any history of there own! Russian is more like mother to all Slavic languages since Slavs And Balts separated right there where today's Lithuania and Russia is.

    • @NuckinFutsSlo
      @NuckinFutsSlo 3 роки тому +14

      It seems like that, but only because the author left out some important parts of our history. We had our first country in 7th century and have been fighting off germans, italians and hungarians ever since.

    • @miglius1992
      @miglius1992 3 роки тому +5

      @@NuckinFutsSlo I see, well every Nation has it's ups and downs on the history timeline. But we are all still here, it was woth it😉!

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 3 роки тому +8

      @@miglius1992 Our language is not under the Russia. Our inscribtion from 10th centuray is actually the oldest text is written in Slaviclanguage in latin characters. Our first country was Carinthia, bigger than today Austria. And the south border of it it was the same as today Austrian south border.

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 3 роки тому +1

      @@miglius1992 And if you want to see what kind of country is Slovenia see on Yt ua-cam.com/video/k2MOfVOUU78/v-deo.html

    • @VendPrekmurec
      @VendPrekmurec 3 роки тому +3

      @@bojanstare8667 To je litvanski seronja, propagandist in antislavist. Ga poznam iz mnogih videjev...

  • @jozebutinar44
    @jozebutinar44 Рік тому +1

    it is not slavic language