Mazda's Secret To Efficient Turbo Engines

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    Mazda's 2.5L turbocharged inline four-cylinder engine won a Ward's Auto 10 Best Engines award in 2017 for the CX-9. The engine is now also used in the 2018 Mazda 6. The engine produces 227 horsepower on regular gas, and 310 lb-ft of torque. It has a unique approach for downsized turbo engines, which generally result in good fuel economy at low loads, but fail to provide efficiency when the driver demands more power.
    Several of the clever technologies within this engine include a 4-3-1 exhaust that maximizes exhaust scavenging for turbocharged engines, while also providing two separate airflow paths to keep the turbo spooled at both low and high RPM. The engine also has cooled EGR to increase the load at which a stoichiometric air fuel ratio can be used. Check out the video for full details about how this engine provides loads of torque, but still offers good fuel economy.
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  • @RalstigRacing
    @RalstigRacing 5 років тому +1001

    This is why, to me, Mazda is the most exciting car manufacturer right now. They are really letting their engineers have fun and design fundamentally good engines.

    • @holmd90
      @holmd90 5 років тому +64

      Especially for such a small company with a relatively low R&D budget, imagine if they had the same funding as the big three?

    • @ujiltromm7358
      @ujiltromm7358 5 років тому +90

      Fundamentally good _and reliable_ engines. They aren't introducing additional moving parts (additional heat exchanger and newly-designed exhaust manifold) and use real-world consumer-grade fuel to achieve their results. That's awesome.

    • @MrConor159
      @MrConor159 5 років тому +6

      There quite boring in my view as they still only produce fossil cars with little drive to go electric

    • @ujiltromm7358
      @ujiltromm7358 5 років тому +130

      > implying electricity production is clean
      Am I allowed to laugh yet?

    • @Beemer350
      @Beemer350 5 років тому

      clever and not costumer friendly solutions (read costly)

  • @metalbyku
    @metalbyku 5 років тому +722

    Mazda is most underrated car manufacturer. Always been. Mazda's game is very strong now. Both engeenering and design

    • @satellite964
      @satellite964 5 років тому +38

      Best looking cars out of all the Japanese companies IMO.

    • @bcubed72
      @bcubed72 5 років тому +6

      Until recently, part of Ford.

    • @General_M
      @General_M 5 років тому +34

      bcubed72 by recently, you mean 10 years ago, right?

    • @steaker-gi9uw
      @steaker-gi9uw 5 років тому +7

      bcubed72 Mazda and ford have been buddies since the 70s.

    • @jogabonitadefutbol
      @jogabonitadefutbol 5 років тому +21

      they officially separated completely in 2014

  • @aaronhowell2011
    @aaronhowell2011 5 років тому +112

    Mazda’s reason for including EGR really makes me like them so much more. EPA doesn’t change, but they want for the customer to get real results. So good.

    • @richsackett3423
      @richsackett3423 Місяць тому

      Proportionately, it couldn't make a lick of difference. What percent of air intake is actually exhaust gas anyway? 0.002% What a silly and costly waste of time.

  • @strangeclouds7
    @strangeclouds7 5 років тому +448

    EE's Sunday morning uploads are just like Saturday cartoons as a kid.

    • @Xyb3rTeCh
      @Xyb3rTeCh 5 років тому +4

      Basically it means its very addictive to watch.

    • @jd-py5nm
      @jd-py5nm 5 років тому +2

      indeed this and launch control by subaru

    • @XinoMbr
      @XinoMbr 5 років тому

      Agreed :D

    • @matrixpimp23
      @matrixpimp23 3 роки тому

      Agreed

  • @spamcan9208
    @spamcan9208 5 років тому +128

    I love Mazda, they're the little company that could. My next car will be a Mazda.

    • @dvandam9574
      @dvandam9574 5 років тому +6

      My last 3 where Mazda, pushed them too the limit and beyond, never had any problems. If you want to break them you have to crash em

    • @heikopanzlaff3789
      @heikopanzlaff3789 4 роки тому +4

      Drive Mazda`s since 37 years. Have 3 now : RX 7 Rotary Turbo for sunny sundays ( - alternating with my 2 bikes ) , MX 5 ND 2.0 summer - daily and Cx 3 AWD 150 winter - daily.. Worth to mention: Live in no speed limit Germany ...

    • @elementaljosh
      @elementaljosh 4 роки тому +4

      I never understood why car people existed until I bought myself an NA Mazda Miata. Never looked back since. I love that thing to death, and learned a ton from working on it. 10 out of 10 best first project car, it was so good I now have an NB in the driveway next to it. Having also driven an ND, I can confirm Mazda still makes cars the way they used to. How they got a 2300lb car through modern safety testing… I don’t wanna know but I love how they really let the engineers make good cars rather than having executives make compromising decisions. Maybe they aren’t as big as they could be because of that commitment, but I believe it will pay out for them in the long run as people start to figure out what’s up.

  • @TheCLEM66000
    @TheCLEM66000 5 років тому +232

    mazda is a truly amazing car maker.

    • @armesisp3201
      @armesisp3201 5 років тому +2

      Truly*

    • @Cerberus984
      @Cerberus984 5 років тому +1

      It's not that impressive as when you compare the avg real world mpg on fuelly 2017 Ford Escape 2.0T vs 2017 Mazda CX-9 2.5T which are based off the same duratec engine lineups from their old partnership days. Aside from 0.5 larger displacement you only get 10 more hp but ~500 lbs heavier. Which I'll concede would equate to about 7.5% mpg loss being heavier meaning if they were of equivalent weight it would be 24.725 mpg vs real world avg of 23 for both vehicles.Equating to a mere $94 annual fuel savings cost assuming 12K miles per year.
      To add context the 2.0T only comes on the top tier Ford Escape Platinum $36K MSRP so you'd get more bells and whistles vs the base sport Mazda CX-9 $35K. Which the top tier Mazda CX-9 would be $42K. I'll concede the CX-9 looks better but would I seriously want to spend $6K more for a Mazda? Yet, I could get a BMW X1 AWD with an 8 speed automatic that gets more MPG than Ford of Mazda for the price of the Mazda.

    • @TheCLEM66000
      @TheCLEM66000 5 років тому

      Armesis P thanks for correction english is not my first language ah ha

    • @TheCLEM66000
      @TheCLEM66000 5 років тому +2

      Cerberus984 i don't talk about This engine, but the whole thing, like skyactiv X, the maybe New rotary hybrid, the focus on Light Weight vehicule Before maximum power and the fact that Mazda is Almost the last car manufacturer Who believe that combustion engines are not dead. So keep it up Mazda ! (Same for you Jason btw)

    • @Cerberus984
      @Cerberus984 5 років тому +1

      The only thing lately that is impressive is the SkyActiv X. The rotary hybrid isn't a hybrid exactly as the wankle will merely be a generator extending max range for a plug in hybrid. Not necessarily amazing in my view. They are a relatively small manufacturer and simply don't have the pull to be able to mass purchase batteries as their competitors do. Which many new comers are either building at a loss or very little profit. So doing minor tweaks that they could patent and collect royalties to others is the most logical approach. I hope the HCCI is successful but I'm skeptical without some form of water injection to be durable in all weather extremes with the desert in particular.

  • @waydigga1982
    @waydigga1982 5 років тому +120

    Mazda is truly a champion of the ppl. I feel like ppl that buy these types of cars may not care as much about fuel economy, but its nice that Mazda is delivering real world numbers instead of lab numbers.

    • @haylonix
      @haylonix 5 років тому +3

      I wish they were a champion of the people when it came to reliability. (I own a lemon Mazda CX5)

    • @waydigga1982
      @waydigga1982 5 років тому +7

      Haylonix im sorry to hear about your cx5. I have a 2015 mazda6 with about 35k miles. No issues so far.

    • @RalstigRacing
      @RalstigRacing 5 років тому +6

      Haylonix What are the issues you've been having?

    • @ljpr360
      @ljpr360 4 роки тому +2

      I care about driving fun but also efficiency, I used to only get Hondas but since SKYACTIV came out I have been getting Mazdas

  • @AHMEDMOOSAJI
    @AHMEDMOOSAJI 5 років тому +338

    This is commitment
    You just got married and still posting
    Hats off

    • @gautier998
      @gautier998 5 років тому +66

      Planned upload my friend, Jason is probably way too smart to not have prep this before ;)

    • @coscorrodrift
      @coscorrodrift 5 років тому +19

      Wow, congratulations Jason!!!!

    • @francisgeorge7639
      @francisgeorge7639 5 років тому +5

      No ring, probably recorded beforehand.

    • @Marc.S.78
      @Marc.S.78 5 років тому +16

      Ahmed Moosaji hopefully he does not have a Whiteboard in his bedroom.....

    • @12gpm91
      @12gpm91 5 років тому +2

      Marc Schrewe, maybe Jason can finally start using Microsoft Paint!

  • @coscorrodrift
    @coscorrodrift 5 років тому +246

    Damn, very interesting conclusion at the end, i think it's the right decision, props to Mazda for that. They may get less mainstream attention but for people who care like the people watching this channel it's surely good publicity to do that instead of going the cheating emissions route lmao

    • @gabrieliacoboni6951
      @gabrieliacoboni6951 5 років тому +3

      coscorrodrift Pretty soon with the new testing methods there fuel ratings should increase.

    • @randomesteven3935
      @randomesteven3935 5 років тому +9

      I would like to point out that while mazda does get as good Fc under near spirited driving, backing what their engineers says, to me, volvo is also another that gets close to EPA ratings in real world. Under some spirited drive as well. Just throwing it out there. since volvo also uses a rather complex egr system that may or may not be achieving the same effect. Props to Mazda though. ICE may be around for a lot longer yet

    • @prdoyle
      @prdoyle 4 роки тому +3

      I'm not really sure it's cheating. My Civic Hatchback has all the "cheating" problems mentioned here, but I routinely beat EPA ratings on my commute by driving in a fuel-conscious way. Then on the weekend, I turn off Econ mode and have some fun (though fuel goes through the roof, from ~5 to ~9 l/100km). Works for me. Cool, though, that Mazda might let me have more fun without guzzling gas.

  • @TheZProtocol
    @TheZProtocol 5 років тому +48

    Mazda is a very underrated automaker. They really stand out from the rest in styling and engineering!

  • @dwoodcob
    @dwoodcob 5 років тому +371

    Mazda have been saying recently that they have found a way to double the efficiency of the 13b Renesis (RX8) Rotary engine. Many have been wondering how, including me for a while. Part of the problem with the Rotary is how hot the combustion chamber gets in these power plants. Mazda have leaned on using very rich fuel mixtures to address this in the past. Watching this has made me think, maybe they plan implementing some style of cooled EGR system for a Rotary? @EngineeringExplained what is your take on that’s?

    • @atomflunder2
      @atomflunder2 5 років тому +31

      i think egr and Homogeneous charge compression ignition could bring the rotary engine back

    • @tomhiggins4816
      @tomhiggins4816 5 років тому +72

      Very difficult to get complete compression ignition with the rotary as it has a very unusual and long combustion chamber, which also makes it harder to achieve an even air fuel mixture throughout the chamber. If anyone can do it, im sure it will be mazda :P

    • @Oblithian
      @Oblithian 5 років тому +54

      I would point out that a double efficiency rotory is still inefficient by modern standards, but certainly good enough to make it non-prohibitive for most buyers.

    • @holmd90
      @holmd90 5 років тому +69

      Looking at what they've been able to come up with for their piston engines lately, I'm very curious and excited to see where they're taking rotaries next as well. Rumors have been pointing to lower displacement (~1.6l) boosted designs making north of 400hp, so maybe they are looking to embrace the rotary's preference for high rpm operation now that material advancements are catching up to what they need for apex seals to be more reliable.
      With cooled egr they just might be able to get fuel economy and emissions closer to what they need to make it viable in the modern market, especially with the rest of their range stepping up to make the brand-wide average efficiency so impressive.
      And as stated above, the homogeneous spark combustion could be just the ticket to get proper combustion and reduce hot spots where they've had to use multiple spark plugs in the past due to the irregularly shaped combustion chambers of the rotary.
      Just imagine if these guys had the R&D budget of someone like Ford or Chevy, instead of being one of the smallest brands out there...

    • @Fred_P
      @Fred_P 5 років тому +20

      Woodmember - EE never answers good/interesting questions. He only responds to 'funny' one liners and puts hearts on them.

  • @matt_b...
    @matt_b... 5 років тому +66

    How do you start your Sunday? "Hello everyone, and welcome!"
    Thanks for another great video this week.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  5 років тому +1

      matt b thanks for watching this Sunday morning!

    • @teslarocks7345
      @teslarocks7345 2 роки тому

      Drive my 2016 Mazda 3 or now 2021 Mazda CX5 Carbon Edition Turbo.

  • @ben079329
    @ben079329 5 років тому +40

    Faszinating technique. I really Like mazdas Philosophy to Focus on the needs of the customer

    • @dwergmaster
      @dwergmaster 5 років тому

      Welcome to the world of Japanese company ethics. Completely different world than the Germans live and act in.

    • @ben079329
      @ben079329 5 років тому +1

      Tom there are Always exceptions... For example tepco, If You remember. AS i think that they didnt represent Japans ethics, so i think that VW doesnt represent the German ethics

  • @mikeculp92
    @mikeculp92 5 років тому +106

    I have a CX9 with this engine and I have to say it's pretty impressive. I do actually get the fule economy that they advertise and I'm happy with the power. Under normal circumstances I get about 26-27 mpg (in a 7 passenger suv)

    • @mikeculp92
      @mikeculp92 5 років тому +9

      Brad Haines yeah that's driving pretty gentle... "Normal" driving I average 23-24 which is still pretty reasonable

    • @SoulTouchMusic93
      @SoulTouchMusic93 5 років тому +1

      that's good man, considering that that engine probably has in the mid 300 horsepower. probably in the mazda 6 you'd even get into 40 mpg.

    • @KiranDigavalli
      @KiranDigavalli 5 років тому +2

      I get ~41 mpg in a non-turbo mazda 6 with gentle highway driving. The automatic version would probably get slightly better fuel economy, as it has a taller final drive ratio (3.8 vs 4.1 for the manual)

    • @limcharles9730
      @limcharles9730 5 років тому +1

      dump the egr...

    • @badbasic
      @badbasic 5 років тому +9

      @Lima Charlie I am not sure if this is sarcasm or not, but 70% of this video is explaining how Mazda uses cooled EGR for way better real world efficiency. EGR is not just some gimmick to help with keeping the NOx and CO emissions down(which is important, even if you don't believe climate change is real), but it also, if made correctly, helps with high load thermal efficiency, something turbo engines struggle with. Like I sai, this could be sarcasm, if so, ditto.

  • @pvflyer67
    @pvflyer67 5 років тому +3

    My wife just bought a CX9 signature and all I can say is it doesn't feel like a 4cyl feels more like a 6cyl. So much torque, however you have to run higher octane 92 in order to achieve higher HP's. thanks for all those great videos

  • @Tiggzne24
    @Tiggzne24 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for this video. I'm currently looking to upgrade my Mazda 3 GT to a 6GTR, but growing up I heard 4cyl turbos were bad news. Now I'm actually impressed and excited that I get to be a part of such an advanced and intelligent brand.🖖🏾👍🏾

  • @bobbyross2023
    @bobbyross2023 5 років тому +17

    This is why I'm such a big Mazda fanboy!

  • @TheParot161
    @TheParot161 5 років тому +3

    I bought a Mazda six 2018 model recently. Love it. Great handling, great acceleration, the cooled seats are great. They had just offered Apple CarPlay as a paid for retrofit which I’m getting installed soon. Wouldn’t know what Else I could need in a four-door sedan.

  • @OliverHoffmannDesign
    @OliverHoffmannDesign 5 років тому +1

    Hey thanks for taking the time to explain these concepts in (what I think is) just the right amount of detail. This confirms a lot of my suspicions about small turbo engine design and also about Mazda's long-term willingness to innovate in powertrain designs... although I haven't had a Mazda since my RX-7. I really hope that you get more young people excited about Engineering (I'm looking at you, sons!)

  • @RobWhittlestone
    @RobWhittlestone 5 років тому

    Brilliant explanation and very insightful for the average guy! Thank you Jason! All the best, Rob in Switzerland.

  • @2W3X4YZ5
    @2W3X4YZ5 5 років тому +6

    I switched from a 5.3 liter GMT-900 truck to this engine in a CX-9. I truly believe it produces more torque than the other engine. Any truth to the rumor that the next gen of SkyActiv engines will not have spark plugs?

  • @kentkanaya7430
    @kentkanaya7430 5 років тому +12

    I’m so glad I opted for the 2018 Mazda 6 GT Reserve over the Camry and accord.
    Such an elegant exterior and interior design, and the performance matches it. With such high torque, everyday driving is very easy especially where I live where there’s hills everywhere.
    After seeing this video it just made me more satisfied with what I drive everyday. Thank you.

    • @goldshadow534
      @goldshadow534 2 роки тому

      Hi, how is that car holding up? I'm planning to buy this same car

  • @scenicroutetravelers3655
    @scenicroutetravelers3655 5 років тому +1

    I click on EE and see this crazy white board full of different colors and think I will never figure it out. By the time your done with your presentation, I completely understand it all. Im not quite sure how you do it, but please never stop! Thank you very much for all of your time and efforts sir!

  • @ozzymandius666
    @ozzymandius666 5 років тому

    You are a true resource to those who want to know what's going on with engines.
    I tip my hat to you, sir.

  • @trickylifts
    @trickylifts 5 років тому +367

    where's the 4 rotor?

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 5 років тому +46

      lasagna bloke. On the shelf until Mazda can justify selling it.

    • @starvalkyrie
      @starvalkyrie 5 років тому +56

      I like this guy, we've don't even have a two rotor, but he's dreaming high

    • @benjaminthomas9436
      @benjaminthomas9436 5 років тому +24

      lasagna bloke wrong channel broo😂it's suppose to be rob dham's channel 😂

    • @beachboardfan9544
      @beachboardfan9544 5 років тому +7

      Plagued with all the same problems of every other rotary engine

    • @EB-dr4dd
      @EB-dr4dd 5 років тому +14

      The only thing plagued rotors are incompetent owners such as yourself and many others in the world of commuters, not drivers. No different than the new cylinder engines put out every year to increase compression and reduce intake temperature.

  • @gooniac33
    @gooniac33 5 років тому +6

    Great explanation! I got the new Mazda6 and am amazed at the torque! I am still getting used to it but the fuel economy and performance is much better than my Mazdaspeed6! The Speed may have had better top end power but overall this engine is so much better! I am averaging 2.5mpg better with this one! Mazda got it right! Now to just get an AWD system....

  • @2009wookie
    @2009wookie 3 роки тому +1

    I have both a 2019 Mazda CX-9 and a 2017 Mazda 3 with a manual transmission. They are phenomenally engineered vehicles, a blast to drive and very reliable. For cost to fun factor Mazda leads the way for driving enthusiasts.

  • @abhishekroyn
    @abhishekroyn 5 років тому

    Great video. Concepts are very nicely explained. Looking forward to more of such videos.

  • @TheHumanSpider-bt7rn
    @TheHumanSpider-bt7rn 5 років тому +3

    Hey mate👋, just wanted to let you know that I love your content, keep up the awesome videos 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

  • @mclement052164
    @mclement052164 5 років тому +9

    My favorite UA-cam channel. I wasn't smart enough to complete my engineering degree in college, but I love how engineers think. I ended up completing an MBA degree, and I was so impressed how the students with previous engineering backgrounds whizzed through the program so much easier than most of their counterparts who had the "advantage" of coming from academic and real world business backgrounds., IMHO, the world would be a better place if engineers were policy makers

  • @Dutillac01
    @Dutillac01 4 роки тому +1

    I love this guy! His reviews are so comprehensive and he clearly knows what he’s talking about.

  • @MrMazda-ih8cw
    @MrMazda-ih8cw 5 років тому

    I can definitely say that today I did learn something. Great video - thanks for sharing!

  • @tslay7928
    @tslay7928 5 років тому +3

    Wow, super interesting! My Focus ST, before modifying it, would get mid 30s for average MPG on a long cruise but terrible around town/short trips. I definitely understood this when buying the car, because no matter what the sticker says, real word driving is typically way different as far as fuel economy. This is a very cool concept to be able to put your foot down a bit without MPG dropping to 8! However in my case, it is a performance car so that is my pay to play. In a DD with good passing power, this is a boon! Love your channel!

  • @MrSlash00r
    @MrSlash00r 5 років тому +3

    Loved learning about this new tech from Mazda. Thanks EE! Keep up the good work.

  • @heesingsia4634
    @heesingsia4634 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for making this easy to understand

  • @1ZZFE
    @1ZZFE 5 років тому +1

    Great video. This really opens my mind to Mazda's turbo technology.

  • @ponderscythe835
    @ponderscythe835 5 років тому +4

    Just for those that do not know, everyone uses EGR for emissions control. However, cooling the EGR gases by adding the complexity and weight of a cooler is silly, does not produce enough power increase to give you any benefit. The better example is to fully utilized the advantages of direct injection like Subaru WRX has (except leverage the advantage with a properly tuned map, factory map in those cars are crap IMO) to help get a more complete burn thus reducing the need to "trick" the engine into burning cleaner with a EGR setup. BTW EGR cooler or not is a bad idea for the longevity of an engine, especially in a direct inject engine which does not spray fuel into the intake path because of all the carbon buildup that results. Proper maped direct inject engine with EGR path removed altogether would be a huge improvement IMO. Sometimes less is more.

    • @caseymuni4097
      @caseymuni4097 5 років тому

      You are right, EGR is used by all manufacturers only for light throttle to reduce combustion temperature during weak air/fuel ratio. The EGR flow so tiny that no cooler is needed but the intake passing through turbo does. EGR is always off from moderate to full throttle

  • @37rmstrong
    @37rmstrong 5 років тому +3

    Impressive. They are putting customer satisfaction first. Interesting, must be a new concept :-).
    Very informative series. Thanks for sharing these.

  • @InexplicableBill
    @InexplicableBill 6 місяців тому +1

    Jason, I'm glad I discovered this video! I just replaced the spark plugs on my wife's 2019 CX-5 2.5 Turbo... and was wondering what that little device was mounted to the top of the engine. Cooled EGR - Neat! Now I'm going to research if it needs servicing. Back in the day, her 1995 Honda Accord EX wagon had a known EGR issue where carbon deposits would build up in the internal ports and cause drivability issues. I used to tear it down every year and clean the waxy carbon gunk out, and it would run great for a while after that. This Mazda one though, I look forward to understanding it more.

    • @InexplicableBill
      @InexplicableBill 6 місяців тому

      Oh, and at 75,000 miles, the new spark plugs brought back that Mazda Zoom Zoom acceleration that had degraded only slightly this last year or so. Shame on me for being 15,000 miles overdue for new plugs!

  • @dylantemperton
    @dylantemperton 4 місяці тому

    I always feel like a genius after watching EE’a videos - he does such a good job at helping people understand

  • @adam145
    @adam145 5 років тому +10

    Now imagine a new MazdaSpeed car that will give you 5 seconds 0-100 acceleration but still have an average fuel consumption of 7 liters per 100 kilometers.
    I would love to have that in a new MX3- style model that would give me something a bit more parctical than a Miata but still sportier than a 3.

    • @harbl2479
      @harbl2479 5 років тому

      Adam K What you’re talking about already exists. It’s called a 3.0 tdi

    • @adam145
      @adam145 5 років тому +1

      I want a new car. New diesel car in Europe is not a good idea.

  • @lecoureurdesbois86
    @lecoureurdesbois86 4 роки тому +8

    Drop this in the Mazda 3

    • @robertferretti7990
      @robertferretti7990 3 роки тому +1

      They did !!!!... I just sold my 3 because kid#5 won't fit... but enjoying my new cx9. Loving it just like I loved my 2.0 manual 3.

  • @mickwang5376
    @mickwang5376 5 років тому

    Good presentation and content.thank you

  • @dronetrucker
    @dronetrucker 5 років тому

    Great video man

  • @thatcopenguy
    @thatcopenguy 5 років тому +4

    I wasn't expecting cooled EGR. I knew it was gonna be in the Skyactiv-X, but I didn't know it's in the current lineup.

    • @gabrieliacoboni6951
      @gabrieliacoboni6951 5 років тому +1

      Steve Edward Its currently only in their turbos and diesels. And the soon to be x.

  • @martinagiuslia
    @martinagiuslia 5 років тому +6

    Imagine that engine in an MX-5!

  • @chuckasualty
    @chuckasualty 5 років тому

    Thanks for this explanation. I've seen a similar system on Honda's turbo engines and had no idea why they would do that.

  • @Marcos-rp6hh
    @Marcos-rp6hh 5 років тому

    That’s a pretty cool design 👍
    Love these videos man

  • @meredithchris306
    @meredithchris306 5 років тому +6

    Sadly they removed the manual transmission on the mazda 6 .. Guess we'll have to wait for mazdaspeed to comback

  • @lifted_above
    @lifted_above 5 років тому +12

    Any issues with EGR gasses/pollutants condensing in the cooler manifold before it dumps into the intake manifold? I hate the fact EGR and crankcase recirculation is the main problem with direct injection. Anything recirculated will carry oil vapor and pollution, crudding up the intake manifold and intake valves.
    Ford was using a "cooled EGR" manifold on the 6.0L Powerstroke Diesel. Guess what? It was the main reason that engine was unreliable and had problems.

    • @vq37zu
      @vq37zu 5 років тому

      Lifted_Above agreed! as if the massive issues of carbon buildup weren't enough in these DI engines. I'd like to think that these EGR engines have some kind of filtering in place.

    • @lifted_above
      @lifted_above 5 років тому +3

      All gas-DI engines should be dual injection (port and direct).

    • @FiLivealive8
      @FiLivealive8 5 років тому +1

      I agree! It was the same problem with volkswagen TDIs. I've cleaned the carbon on mine (ALH) and done an EGR delete exactly not to soot the intake again...

    • @lifted_above
      @lifted_above 5 років тому

      And gained a heap of performance in the process, most likely. Diesels are designed to BREATHE. The only limit to diesels making more and more power is how much air can be crammed into them and how much force the engine block can keep inside without cracking in half.

    • @Gammashack
      @Gammashack 5 років тому +1

      Mazda's whole Skyactiv lineup, as far as I know, only uses DI. This will lead to aggressive carbon buildup no matter what you do. It's a shame Mazda and Ford no longer co-develop their engines - Ford took Mazda's old L engines and the dual injected them to improve serviceability, while Mazda did this to improve economy. If only we could have both.

  • @gazorpazorp9798
    @gazorpazorp9798 5 років тому +1

    Great explanation! Thanks for the upload.

  • @Fifou001
    @Fifou001 5 років тому

    i love your vids! for the first time i understood what the egr does thank you a lot!

  • @kingotime8977
    @kingotime8977 5 років тому +5

    Mazda: Having the most efficient of everything.

  • @calebromero8328
    @calebromero8328 5 років тому +5

    I absolutely love Mazda, hands down favorite car manufacturer

  • @shimvision
    @shimvision 5 років тому

    Great explanation. Thanks!

  • @petercox3595
    @petercox3595 5 років тому

    You're really selling me on Mazda. The cars look cooler and now the engines keep getting cooler too. Great video

  • @jay-uo2bi
    @jay-uo2bi 5 років тому +5

    Mazda/Hyundai/Kia are the most interesting car manufacture right now, aka, all the underrated ones.

  • @jhuntosgarage
    @jhuntosgarage 5 років тому +3

    As far as the exhaust gas scavenging, this has more to do with header design more than firing order, in my opinion.

    • @holmd90
      @holmd90 5 років тому +8

      That's basically what he was saying, the design was optimized based on the firing order to improve scavenging.

    • @BuffMyRadius
      @BuffMyRadius 5 років тому

      Unless you're talking about the firing order on the Ford 1.0 Ecoboost that gets around the exhaust scavenging issue by simply deleting a cylinder so exhaust pulses are more separated.

  • @MrGomez0724
    @MrGomez0724 5 років тому

    Brotha, your sunburn is SERIOUS in this vid! Lol I love your content, man. Keep up the great work!

  • @coolqwerty73
    @coolqwerty73 5 років тому

    That’s actually super cool! Glad a manufacturer is still looking out for the customer!

  • @totszwai
    @totszwai 5 років тому +5

    Good guy Mazda, not just for the sticker!

  • @CrazyJewIIISLKS
    @CrazyJewIIISLKS 5 років тому +14

    I have the 2017 civic with the 1.5 turbo engine. I always seem to get better fuel economy than what the epa said I should. I remember reading somewhere that it can be more efficient to give it some gas and accelerate quicker than it would be to drive it like a grandma. It’s either that or I’m coasting in gear more than what was represented in the epas testing.

    • @Jontae4288
      @Jontae4288 5 років тому

      Jacob Klein yeah me to I got the turbo 1.5

    • @shallpion
      @shallpion 5 років тому +21

      no, you just weight less than donut-fed epa officials

    • @FM4AMGV
      @FM4AMGV 5 років тому

      the epa tests are a standardized test performed on a dyno by the manufacturer. the epa tests a limited number of cars per year. driving outside test conditions can impact economy +/-

    • @Suction_
      @Suction_ 5 років тому

      keep an eye on your oil. Tons of fuel dilution issues - one of the main reasons i went Mazda over Honda

    • @djayt1215
      @djayt1215 5 років тому

      Youre supposed to get to speed quicly, and then turn on cruise control to maintain speed, as well as coast as much as possible

  • @COMB0RICO
    @COMB0RICO 5 років тому

    Enjoyed it! Thanks from Texas.

  • @hedrokka5727
    @hedrokka5727 5 років тому +1

    AYY very cool video!
    This manifold style (slightly shortened) must be a part of the reason why my TDI (ALH w/ aftermarket manifold) spools so damn fast then....
    from just 2-30PSI in - -
    It still gets 50+ mpg too. What a great manifold design.

  • @Ramkakh
    @Ramkakh 5 років тому +10

    Will this fit on my Mazda 2?

    • @waydigga1982
      @waydigga1982 5 років тому

      Antonio. Doubtful since the n/a 2.0L barely fit in the Miata engine bay.

  • @fultonjackwaterloo4085
    @fultonjackwaterloo4085 5 років тому +8

    Mazda is frankly, the best car company in the world.

  • @chir0pter
    @chir0pter 5 років тому +1

    Can you do a video on EGR and reliability concerns? A lot of people talk about how EGR is a reliability disaster on modern diesel engines, but then again it seems to have been used in gasoline engines for a long time.

  • @PresidentMcAwesomesauce
    @PresidentMcAwesomesauce 5 років тому

    Great video as usual.

  • @beachboardfan9544
    @beachboardfan9544 5 років тому +23

    If only mazda did this 15 years ago instead of waste so much time with Doritos

    • @spamcan9208
      @spamcan9208 5 років тому +5

      Beach&BoardFan This technology wasn't available a decade and a half ago.

    • @beachboardfan9544
      @beachboardfan9544 5 років тому +2

      Spam Can could have been if they didnt waste time with doritos.
      Also pretty sure scavenging and methanol injection has been around for more than 50 years... theres nothing new here.

    • @gavinsutherland7226
      @gavinsutherland7226 5 років тому +8

      Beach&BoardFan. Never any wasted time with Rotarys.

    • @godfreypoon5148
      @godfreypoon5148 5 років тому +5

      So this guy is the token butthurt rotary non-owner? Weak.

    • @Bartonovich52
      @Bartonovich52 5 років тому

      No... he’s right about the Doritos. Having to change apex seals and fill it up with oil every week is nothing I’ll ever be jealous of. I’ve got two 1100 shaft horsepower engines that spin at 37,000 RPM that do anything a rotary can do but much better.

  • @kcho3849
    @kcho3849 5 років тому +6

    I would totally buy it if it offers manual with everything on it... Accord has manual but it's like stripped down version.. I want mid size sedan with manual with everything on it, and it does NOT exist.

    • @pmonk1177
      @pmonk1177 5 років тому +1

      Kihoon Cho , a Mazda 6 turbo was something I considered, but when I found out it wasn’t available in manual, i was disappointed and I went elsewhere.

    • @fang75429
      @fang75429 5 років тому +1

      BMW still offer the 330i and 340i with a 6 speed

    • @dtown214north4
      @dtown214north4 5 років тому +3

      KIA Stinger

    • @alwoodd
      @alwoodd 5 років тому +2

      Does not exist *in the US*. You need to move to Europe to get a sedan (or anything else) with a manual.

    • @adanthedriver1982
      @adanthedriver1982 5 років тому +1

      As they have created this tehnology because they listen to their customers, they might listen to manuals request too, keep hoping

  • @hanymohamed2254
    @hanymohamed2254 5 років тому

    Amazing video .... thx alot

  • @texannationalist5887
    @texannationalist5887 3 роки тому +2

    i've always loved mazda's willingness to experiment and take risks with their engineering. a lot of cool tech comes out of that

  • @pistonhead05
    @pistonhead05 5 років тому +10

    world is moving to electric hybrids, mazda still sticking to basic thermodynamics, you need balls to do that

    • @pistonhead05
      @pistonhead05 5 років тому +1

      what about tesla??????

    • @pepstein
      @pepstein 5 років тому

      Piston Head Teslas are selling like hotcakes, but they're pure electric vehicles, not hybrids.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  5 років тому +5

      Mazda is as well, you’re going to start seeing some electrified Mazda vehicles in the next couple years, but they’re definitely taking their own strategy and approach to the subject.

    • @pistonhead05
      @pistonhead05 5 років тому +1

      i mean use of electricity, whether its hybrid or pure electric.

  • @drec.134
    @drec.134 5 років тому +4

    Ok I have watched a ton of videos, and all these car manufacturers is trying to make these turbocharged high hp 4 cylinders. Why want Ford and Chevy look back in there history at their best engines (Chevy 350/Ford 300-in-line 6) and bring them back with today’s technology? Could you imagine the Ford inline 6 with today’s technology turbocharged and all aluminum. The Chevy 350 all aluminum turbocharged with a 10speed automatic trans!!! Ok ok I’m dreaming but it would be very cool!

    • @gqh007
      @gqh007 5 років тому +6

      The ford inline 6 is called a Barra. Look it up

    • @ShersGarage
      @ShersGarage 5 років тому +1

      Dre C. Because older engines are not efficient. New engines use high compression ratios, variable valve time, fuel injection, turbocharging and etc to get more power and less weight. Smaller displacement engines are efficient at cruising speeds. Look at Ford's 2.7 Ecoboost rated 26mpg highway or 2.7 turbo 4 from Chevy which highly fuel efficient.

    • @cauywarner7136
      @cauywarner7136 5 років тому +4

      GM's LS based engines still have a lot in common with older 350's and whatnot. Obviously much more complex but it sounds like that's what you are asking for.

    • @Genesis385
      @Genesis385 5 років тому

      Bot Account I’m glad you said that. I’m looking at importing one to put into my Mazda b2500.

    • @jradish
      @jradish 5 років тому

      Dre C. The ls is basically a small block still, not much more efficient, all they really have is cylinder deactivation and adjustable timing since the timing curves aren't locked in with distributors anymore. They can make slightly more power, but when it comes down to it, power is made by displacement, camshaft(s), airflow, and compression.

  • @DonHrvato
    @DonHrvato 5 років тому

    good video, keep up the good work

  • @user-dd2vc5cd1p
    @user-dd2vc5cd1p 5 років тому

    You are great at explaining engines, but I also want to hear more about suspension!

  • @ProNoober8
    @ProNoober8 5 років тому +9

    why do I get the feeling that Mazda had some involvement with this video?

    • @vq37zu
      @vq37zu 5 років тому +3

      ProNoober8 because EE is only 'hearting' the posts that cheerlead this video probably. And because EE fails to mention the downsides of this engine, such as EGR buildup failures, low horsepower (see any 2.0t Accord vs 2.5T 6 comparisons) and more.

    • @matthewcurry425
      @matthewcurry425 5 років тому +2

      Zuriel Briones Sharing similar concern here. I look back to mid-70s cars with EGR. Ten years down the line rust and gunk make for sticky valves and linkages. Potentially same thing could affect the variable exhaust port valving on this engine and now you have multiple points of sticking/failure. Will be interesting to see how durable ‘down the road’.

  • @satellite964
    @satellite964 5 років тому +5

    Can everyone just stop buying those ugly and boring cars from other Japanese manufacturers and German ones like VW? Support Mazda with your wallet!

  • @rhino6285
    @rhino6285 5 років тому

    I drive since new a 2009 Mazda 3 s hatchback 2.3 with 5 speed auto and 189,000 miles. I have been dumping money lately for suspension parts at all four corners and a trans module. A trans module is not a rebuild. At the end of the last 5000 mile oil change interval I got back from a 2000 mile Marathon trip in 50 hours. Car ran like a champ. Did not burn or leak a drop of synthetic oil.

  • @bassotalli6494
    @bassotalli6494 5 років тому

    You are doing wery good job, I have been learning a lot of this channel. I alsow have passion to explain things to others, but I have nobody to listen.

  • @min_nari
    @min_nari 5 років тому +4

    so they give up on natural asperation?

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 5 років тому +10

      zacao. Why would you say that? Most of their cars are NA.

    • @AK-oy6wu
      @AK-oy6wu 5 років тому +6

      New generation NA engines are coming out, but they need engines that can produce more power than that, so they made a turbo one.

    • @Markle2k
      @Markle2k 5 років тому +6

      The days of turbo motors always being peaky with no low end torque are long past, my friend. Modern turbos can have torque curves as flat as Kansas across several thousand RPMs.

    • @erikgonzalez2278
      @erikgonzalez2278 5 років тому

      I think there one of the only or few manufacturers who still have a mostly all NA cars and suvs.

    • @johnd5805
      @johnd5805 5 років тому +1

      Markle2k flat as Kansas. Now that's funny. I did drive across Kansas once not only flat but boring.

  • @Chubbycat747
    @Chubbycat747 5 років тому +8

    Voted year's best engine. Ten years later, see bitter, negative comments on the internet about how crappy and unreliable the engine is.

    • @vacuumboss3582
      @vacuumboss3582 5 років тому +2

      Captain Shark like the one you posted?

    • @IDontHaveAVideo
      @IDontHaveAVideo 5 років тому +1

      You must be referring to the 2.3L Turbo MZR L3K9 engines in the previous gen CX-7, MS3 and MS6. They won Ward's best engines. A short few years later, bad turbos, smoking at idle issues, bad VVT actuators, timing chain slapping valve covers, stretched timing chains, impossible to time correctly without keyed pulleys and timing marks, etc. and so on...

    • @Chubbycat747
      @Chubbycat747 5 років тому

      Thanks! One common example I have to add are the Northstar engines, but this is a foreign car video.

  • @MaikEletrica
    @MaikEletrica 5 років тому

    Very nice! Thanks!

  • @jd-py5nm
    @jd-py5nm 5 років тому

    I have slowly falled in love with mazda the 6 has been a great platform as has the 3 and of course the mighty little miata for awhile.

  • @SuperMarioDiagnostics
    @SuperMarioDiagnostics 5 років тому +31

    They're squeezing every ounce of efficiency out of these tiny engines! Where does it end? Nothing like American muscle though 💪

    • @Mgoblagulkablong
      @Mgoblagulkablong 5 років тому +21

      2,5l is not tiny…
      Most turbo engines are under 1,5l.

    • @ReinaldoGonzalezreix2x
      @ReinaldoGonzalezreix2x 5 років тому +20

      it ends in electric

    • @SuperMarioDiagnostics
      @SuperMarioDiagnostics 5 років тому +3

      Mgoblagulkablong id consider that tiny lol my motorcycle is a 2 liter

    • @SuperMarioDiagnostics
      @SuperMarioDiagnostics 5 років тому +2

      Reinaldo Gonzalez haha well said. Very true. These electric motors already are beating gasoline numbers.

    • @mochinsaniimamutomo6195
      @mochinsaniimamutomo6195 5 років тому +12

      im wondering what happen if they put these technologies into big displacement engine

  • @minchang4057
    @minchang4057 5 років тому +2

    There is one relatively small auto manufacturer that really cares for the customer to actually achieve fuel economy as advertised on their cars. They are called MAZDA. No others really care about their customers in this regard. I am thoroughly impressed.

  • @cryangallegos
    @cryangallegos 5 років тому

    This makes me really like Mazda. In fact, my 08 Fusion has a Mazda engine in it and it's pretty great. Only problem I ever had with it has been a stuck open thermostat.

  • @captarmour
    @captarmour 4 роки тому

    great videos keep them coming!
    how much does it weigh?

  • @JohnBuliga
    @JohnBuliga Місяць тому

    Excellent analysis of the EGR as to the benefit in a turbo charged engine by Mazda!

  • @craigwilliams7044
    @craigwilliams7044 5 років тому

    I did not know that. Thanks!

  • @alsharifhusain
    @alsharifhusain 2 роки тому +1

    I have Mazda 6 2016 2.5L
    With 186,000 km
    One of the best cars that I have driven
    I am planning to buy Cx9

  • @dwergmaster
    @dwergmaster 5 років тому

    Simple tech, solid results. Honest and reliable.

  • @thegoonbats
    @thegoonbats 2 роки тому

    Just bought the 2022 CX-30 Turbo... Most fun I've ever had driving a car. Not to mention how insanely nice the interior/exterior is.

  • @explodedbrain1317
    @explodedbrain1317 5 років тому

    really enjoy watching your videos.. hoping that someday you can do a video on a toyota engine (the new supra perhaps) more power!

  • @vivienstaehle-bouliane7735
    @vivienstaehle-bouliane7735 5 років тому

    Thanks.
    In fact, because of 4-3-2 exhaust, the exhaust pipe are longer so it takes more time to get hot and thus to meet the depolution standards with the catalyser, the car is throttling very much when starting the engine. I finally understood that!

  • @pantherplatform
    @pantherplatform 5 років тому

    Tyrone Square Mazda is the FIRST place I would EVER take my 2018 Mazda 6 for service. Eric is absolutely meticulous and highly efficient.

  • @FoundingYouTuber
    @FoundingYouTuber 5 років тому

    Of course I especially enjoyed this video because I have a Mazda SUV with a 4 CYL Turbo. The kick (torque) in that little engine is jaw dropping. My "little engine/turbo that can" does 0 to 60 in UNDER 7 seconds. That's insane for a midsize crossover SUV with a 4 cylinder engine.

  • @negativeindustrial
    @negativeindustrial 4 роки тому

    Toyota did that bit with the exhaust manifold back in 1990 with the SW20 MR2 Turbo and the ST185 Celica Turbo. The only difference was the exhaust pulses combined within the turbo exhaust housing which has the added benefit of reduced turbo lag.

  • @manzoor911
    @manzoor911 5 років тому +1

    Please do a video on pros and cons of ecu tuning and egr delete

  • @dougparker9718
    @dougparker9718 5 років тому +1

    It's cool that they are doing this.