hey just so you know, with that battle tactic where you have to use 'from the woodland depths' and make a charge in the same turn, it still counts if you just walk up, charge, and then strike and fade because strike and fade is an ability under the from the woodland depths banner. This was confirmed in the sylvaneth faq before. Makes it a lot easier to score when you don't have to do it after teleporting! (though that works too)
Small correction: - The Reaping: teleport within 12" instead of 9" (not 6", as mentioned in the video). Thanks for Melchoriuz for correcting me! - Vesperal Gem is once per turn, not once per game, so possibly a very strong pick. - Just want to point out that Spellsinger and Treesong both only work on an AWW and not Overgrown terrain. I might have glued those two terms together by accident, so keep that in mind when using this list! ;-)
Also you can reroll with primals just that you have to use a primal first then reroll if I understood the rules correctly. You simply cant choose to add a primal to a spell if you go straight to rerolling. Pretty sure you get the primal back if you reroll the primaled spell cast. I need to check that myself
@@olafolafsson2755 Exactly this. I honestly would rather have them drop their damage altogether and be a dirt cheap screen with a gimmick. Now they're just too explosive (POTENTIALLY) and that gets them a high price tag, but they usually don't deliver...
Thank you very much, Damian. I'd love to hear how it does. I actually played exactly your list (seekers instead of bows) and they felt more or less useless. Might've been me and/or the match-up though!
Nice video. As someone just starting out and having a couple of games under my belt, this series is perfect. The battlemage has been leaked (I guess you recorded before that) and it apparently loses Wildform. The rest of the abilities look pretty uninteresting for us. My favorite units are Hero: Drycha overall (she's difficult to use but so rewarding when she works) and Durthu when you roll hot and he just leaves behind craters where he strikes. Always fun to have your opponent's eyes go wide when you tell them how much damage you deal Units: Skaeth's Wild Hunt for their uniqueness and teleporting TRevs to steal objectives and complete Battle Tactics
Great Video 😎 Would love to see you do this for Lumineth as well, at least for the most played factions, Zaitrec, Helon and Ymetrica. I feel like army building in this season is hard as the auto casts from Scinari Heroes and Teclis get stopped easily by Primal Magic.
@@robinmankiller2100 I really enjoy the live chats, even though it's with a small group of people. I wish I had more time to be around when the videos go live!
hey! great video, for a new player like me it brought a lot of value! I just wonder why warsong revenant is so valued by ppl, what is his advantage over other leaders?
Now that we know the Battlemage isn't going to have WIldform, what changes would you make to the list? I think you could also drop the bows for a treelord, it's strong with the fight last to tag team with Durthu. Favourite unit is Drycha, model is so good
Really good video. Some questions though! If you had to go to 2 or even 3 drops, would it make more sense to just push it to 4 (as you aren't likely to deploy first) and then take the Command Entourage with the extra spell or Artefact? With only one wizard you could then take hoarfrost & verdurous harmony to keep bringing back kurnoths. And now with the incoming loss of the battlemage ability, what would you do with those 100 points? Drop dryads/tree revs and pick something else? Or just another spell like Geminids?
Hi Ben, thanks for the comment! I think going 2-drop (2x Battle reg) actually lets you go first quite often still, so I'd probably aim for that. But if you're going 3 or more, I do agree that Command Entourage is nice. I've done that a couple of times actually and it's okay, though not amazing. Usually I don't find myself lacking for options with the Warsong + extra caster. An extra artefact (Greenwood Gladius for example) could be more worthwhile, depending on your playstyle. When it comes to those 100 points, I'd probably follow my suggestion that I made for including the Branchwych. I kinda liked her + the endless spell that deals damage based on movement (my mind is blanking on its name so hard right now haha).
So, list as-is, all you have to do to keep it a 2 drop is do two Battle Regiments. That said, you probably won’t use the Battlemage moving forward, so that would mean if you doubled up one of your troops units you could get it back down to a 1 drop
The question of the day is a hard one: how do you want me to choose between the Arch-Revenant and the Kurnoth? I don't have a specific story about them: to my eyes, they are the best-looking models in the Sylvaneth range
The gem is also not OPB, is each turn though if not taking sylvaneth lore then it is a wasted artefact as only works for the lore and excludes the summoning of tree. Love the acorn pick though, trees are important especially with half board deployments limiting 3 overgrown pick
Kurnoth Hunters with Swords!!
Painting a Lady of Vines got me to pick Sylvaneth for my first army
hey just so you know, with that battle tactic where you have to use 'from the woodland depths' and make a charge in the same turn, it still counts if you just walk up, charge, and then strike and fade because strike and fade is an ability under the from the woodland depths banner. This was confirmed in the sylvaneth faq before. Makes it a lot easier to score when you don't have to do it after teleporting! (though that works too)
Great addition to the video! Thanks, Matthew! Should've made that clear.
Small correction:
- The Reaping: teleport within 12" instead of 9" (not 6", as mentioned in the video). Thanks for Melchoriuz for correcting me!
- Vesperal Gem is once per turn, not once per game, so possibly a very strong pick.
- Just want to point out that Spellsinger and Treesong both only work on an AWW and not Overgrown terrain. I might have glued those two terms together by accident, so keep that in mind when using this list! ;-)
Also you can reroll with primals just that you have to use a primal first then reroll if I understood the rules correctly. You simply cant choose to add a primal to a spell if you go straight to rerolling. Pretty sure you get the primal back if you reroll the primaled spell cast. I need to check that myself
Vesperal Gem also cannot be used to auto-summon a tree, as that spell isn't considered a part of the Lore of Deepwood
I love my kurnoth with scythes. They look badass
Favorite Sylvaneth unit - Gossamid Archers.
They're so cool but I just cannot get behind their points cost... :')
@@strategoiThose points make me believe that there must be a trick and something the warscoll is hiding - but there isnt xD
@@olafolafsson2755 Exactly this. I honestly would rather have them drop their damage altogether and be a dirt cheap screen with a gimmick. Now they're just too explosive (POTENTIALLY) and that gets them a high price tag, but they usually don't deliver...
Nice video! Thanks - I like to see the next subfaction coming soon.
Really enjoyed the guide! Looking forward to the future Oakenbrow video!
Spirit of durthu with green Gladius. "Tree hulk smash!"
My favorite sylvaneth unit is kurnoth hunters with great great scythes simply for the reach and rend
Love this. My List for a tournament looks 90% the same...just switching the 3 bows for seekers to get Dome movement and returning of swords.
Thank you very much, Damian. I'd love to hear how it does. I actually played exactly your list (seekers instead of bows) and they felt more or less useless. Might've been me and/or the match-up though!
Please more videos with Sylvaneth rosters!!!
Next one will be coming your way soon!
More Sylvaneth videos! Woot woot!
Hype tr...eee!
The hunters; they have been amazing to play
Nice video. As someone just starting out and having a couple of games under my belt, this series is perfect.
The battlemage has been leaked (I guess you recorded before that) and it apparently loses Wildform. The rest of the abilities look pretty uninteresting for us.
My favorite units are
Hero: Drycha overall (she's difficult to use but so rewarding when she works) and Durthu when you roll hot and he just leaves behind craters where he strikes. Always fun to have your opponent's eyes go wide when you tell them how much damage you deal
Units: Skaeth's Wild Hunt for their uniqueness and teleporting TRevs to steal objectives and complete Battle Tactics
Lovely comment. Drycha is my fave as well. She is the reason why I wanted to play AOS.
I await the rest of the glades with bated breath 😭
Great Video 😎 Would love to see you do this for Lumineth as well, at least for the most played factions, Zaitrec, Helon and Ymetrica. I feel like army building in this season is hard as the auto casts from Scinari Heroes and Teclis get stopped easily by Primal Magic.
I think I will, though right now there's very little variation in good LRL lists...
This is awesome pleae do more videos with army list really appreciated… DUrthu 2k army list pleasseeee!!!!!
Today leaks have come out about the new cities book. The battlemage no longer gives a bonus on the charge. This is hitting sylvaneth so hard 😢
Yeah, it's pretty rough. Spiteswarm is still there to back us up though, but if they unbind it, we're in trouble.
thank you!
So wish I had caught it live!!!!
The Boys are back!
@@robinmankiller2100 I really enjoy the live chats, even though it's with a small group of people. I wish I had more time to be around when the videos go live!
I love elves but the Lady of the vines was fun to kitbash. Havent found anyone really talking about her.
I've been considering her, but every time I run her I feel my list is lacking something. Might not be my playstyle. Have you ran her successfully?
@@strategoi no I’m actually looking for advice on your discord. I haven’t really ever played beyond a practice game.
hey! great video, for a new player like me it brought a lot of value! I just wonder why warsong revenant is so valued by ppl, what is his advantage over other leaders?
Now that we know the Battlemage isn't going to have WIldform, what changes would you make to the list? I think you could also drop the bows for a treelord, it's strong with the fight last to tag team with Durthu. Favourite unit is Drycha, model is so good
Drycha is stellar. I think I'd run the branchwych, but your suggestion could also be interesting 🤔.
Really good video. Some questions though!
If you had to go to 2 or even 3 drops, would it make more sense to just push it to 4 (as you aren't likely to deploy first) and then take the Command Entourage with the extra spell or Artefact? With only one wizard you could then take hoarfrost & verdurous harmony to keep bringing back kurnoths.
And now with the incoming loss of the battlemage ability, what would you do with those 100 points? Drop dryads/tree revs and pick something else? Or just another spell like Geminids?
Hi Ben, thanks for the comment!
I think going 2-drop (2x Battle reg) actually lets you go first quite often still, so I'd probably aim for that. But if you're going 3 or more, I do agree that Command Entourage is nice. I've done that a couple of times actually and it's okay, though not amazing. Usually I don't find myself lacking for options with the Warsong + extra caster. An extra artefact (Greenwood Gladius for example) could be more worthwhile, depending on your playstyle.
When it comes to those 100 points, I'd probably follow my suggestion that I made for including the Branchwych. I kinda liked her + the endless spell that deals damage based on movement (my mind is blanking on its name so hard right now haha).
Little late to the party, but does anyone have opinions on dropping a few things in the list to run Belthanos?
So, list as-is, all you have to do to keep it a 2 drop is do two Battle Regiments. That said, you probably won’t use the Battlemage moving forward, so that would mean if you doubled up one of your troops units you could get it back down to a 1 drop
Sad day that the battle Mage scroll gets leaked on today of all days haha. But yes, agreed on all fronts.
The question of the day is a hard one: how do you want me to choose between the Arch-Revenant and the Kurnoth?
I don't have a specific story about them: to my eyes, they are the best-looking models in the Sylvaneth range
The arch rev is so captivating as a sculpt!
Dont u think hunters are better with scythes than swords?
Drycha
The gem is also not OPB, is each turn though if not taking sylvaneth lore then it is a wasted artefact as only works for the lore and excludes the summoning of tree. Love the acorn pick though, trees are important especially with half board deployments limiting 3 overgrown pick
Adding it to the correction pin. Thanks, Probyn!
Durthu