I done similar conversion to my 1.8t years ago. Just I used Febi 06687 tension roller with washer under it, G1283H timing belt, and no small roller seen in this video. It done almost 100 000 km and it just had new kit installed. Works perfectly to me. I also keep checking timing belt tension regularly, but only needed to do it once on the first kit.
@@normantasstr4451 Unfortunately I can not tell, as it was long time ago. I measured gap between original tension roller and surface where it touches engine, then did same with new tension roller and done the math to calculate washer size. I hope you get the idea.
Would i have to buy all this stuff again next belt change or do you all sell a kit with the parts that aren't reusable? Like just the belt n tensioner. Will any rolling tensioner work afterward ?
thanks for the having the time to prepare this and upload it to all of us ......waitting for IE exhaust manifold for my 4motion/haldex 1.8T :D keep up all the great work and best of luck on ur upcoming projects.
So my timing belt makes a wierd noise when its in low rpms so i think its the tensioner but i wanna know if theres a way to just fix it and not have to pay for a new one?
abit late probably, but you just have to cash out for a new tensioner, might aswell change the belt at the same time, i had the belt snap on my VW 1.6TD, byebye valved, camshaft and lifters.
I have one question on my 1998 passat 1.8 t the timing belt how many teeth is the right one I think there is two choices I order one for racing advise please thanks and great video,one more and what happen if my waste gauge don't open old the way I talk about my turbo k04
You can try tightening a little more and see if that helps. It's common for timing belts to stretch a little as they wear. For that reason we recommend checking the belt tension at every oil change.
Checked it, front run was re-adjusted. This time around i used the gates. It is a noisy belt, and i believe it to be un balanced. I should have just sticked with OEM belt. Live and Learn. Also you're idler bearing is squealing something fierce.
@@kevinp4532Damn, you just saved me a lot of stress! I was gonna buy the gates one but now I’m going to just keep it oem. Thank you so much, one comment also says with this upgrade you have to check the tension every oil change and there’s no way I’m doing that
From what i know there is a split between the years 2000 and 2001 the 058 block has the water pump outside of the timing belt and 06A block has the water pump internally on the timing belt also the oil pump is slightly different i believe as well to how they are routed
This set up work good for stock engines? Barely did a timing belt and water pump but having issues with the oem tensioner damper tensioner pulley roller and night have actually stripped/damaged the pulley roller. Something like this seems like it would be easier to work on and maintain so I’m considering
Coming from a Naturally Aspirated Golf 2.0, it's worth it, the tensioner is very straightforward especially for future service. It's uncommon for the tension to come defective.
Check to see if you have an external or internal waterpump. Internal waterpump will be driven off the timing belt =06A and a external waterpump will be driven off the accessory belt =058.
So. When tensioning the belt. If your verfied timing marks havent moved. You install the belt. And thus begin tensioning. If the cam moves slightly during tensioning. There shouldnt be anything to worry about bc one tensioned the marks will go back or. Should the marks line up after tension applied and snug+torqued If i need to offset the marks just enough so that when i have tension and torque the nut that the marks are dead on
Go look at how to properly time your 1.8t, then come back here. You won't always be able to reference the timing marks on the old belt, eg it broke! Thus you should learn how to set up your timing from scratch starting with how to set your engine to TDC, etc, etc, etc....
@@emotionalintelligence776 ive down 4 or 5 timing belt jobs now. As well as one on my girls car. Im.more then capable of timing my or any 1.8t motor. There are for sure some tips and tricks you learn while doing this. This comment was 5 months old. Recently installed new head on my 1.8t and she is running mint besides lean code. But thanks for your comment 😂
@@emotionalintelligence776 when applying the belt you offset crank so when you finally get the belt onto the cam sprocket. The crank TDC mark is right there and your cam sprocket mark should be within a half a tooth either way due to the slight shift with the harmonic balancer pulley.
I have 1.8t 20v engine (auq). I think my belt jumped and im gonna change timing belt n waterpump and tensionee ofc! But the " problem " is that i dont have the belt cover which has marks on it.. So how can i set the timing right? #1 piston to TDC and then just set the cam marks? Sorry about my bad english😂🤘🏼
@@slybunda okay thanks well im going with LSP design with the solid adjuster and locking nut. Cam seal is leaking but i have a new belt and water pump only need a tensioner and roller. So i was looking at this IE set up or the LSP and gettinf new idler pulley and roller
@@ItsViirn the twist test is not a proper official test as stated in the service manual. sonic testers that you pluck the belt and test for frequency in hz are accurate and recommended. deflection test is good to use as shown in this video here: ua-cam.com/video/4fva6d3kZas/v-deo.html yes its a ford engine but this guy has got the tension close enough by using deflection test. 5mm deflection is ideal no more than 1cm deflection on the longest run when pressed from the middle otherwise you risk belt jumping a tooth when cold, remember the belt doesnt stretch much over time usually no more than 2mm stretch over the lift of the belt. if pushed longer then intended service life it could stretch more. engines dont expand as much as people think when hot. imagine if you had 5mm expansion, headgaskets would be leaking left right and center.
it.s a lil bit funny because the camshaft gear it..s moving when u aply tension on the tensioner pulley , this is wrong .. because there is a pin between camshaft gear and camshaft , if it moves u had a bad timing !
So my timing belt makes a wierd noise when its in low rpms so i think its the tensioner but i wanna know if theres a way to just fix it and not have to pay for a new one?
Mine (2000 Beetle 1.8T) did the same thing. The timing belt kit I installed was 3 months old (bought from www.ecstuning.com/) and the tensioner failed. Research, after the fact, shows ECS has a history of the same problem. Replaced the tensioner (10 minute job but another 4 hours and a pain in the ass to get to), and now works fine.
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I done similar conversion to my 1.8t years ago. Just I used Febi 06687 tension roller with washer under it, G1283H timing belt, and no small roller seen in this video. It done almost 100 000 km and it just had new kit installed. Works perfectly to me. I also keep checking timing belt tension regularly, but only needed to do it once on the first kit.
What was the size of washer?
@@normantasstr4451 Unfortunately I can not tell, as it was long time ago. I measured gap between original tension roller and surface where it touches engine, then did same with new tension roller and done the math to calculate washer size. I hope you get the idea.
Can you guys do a video of the install for that adjustable cam gear? (for b6 a4 1.8t)
Does the timing still have to be checked and adjusted with this setup every so often??
Would i have to buy all this stuff again next belt change or do you all sell a kit with the parts that aren't reusable? Like just the belt n tensioner. Will any rolling tensioner work afterward ?
Currantly building a 1.8t, how is the motor turned over by hand without oil pressure goint to the vvt tensioner in the head?
thanks for the having the time to prepare this and upload it to all of us ......waitting for IE exhaust manifold for my 4motion/haldex 1.8T :D
keep up all the great work and best of luck on ur upcoming projects.
Going back to the design of the 1.6 that I had in my audi 4000.
So my timing belt makes a wierd noise when its in low rpms so i think its the tensioner but i wanna know if theres a way to just fix it and not have to pay for a new one?
abit late probably, but you just have to cash out for a new tensioner, might aswell change the belt at the same time, i had the belt snap on my VW 1.6TD, byebye valved, camshaft and lifters.
I have one question on my 1998 passat 1.8 t the timing belt how many teeth is the right one I think there is two choices I order one for racing advise please thanks and great video,one more and what happen if my waste gauge don't open old the way I talk about my turbo k04
What do you do if you have 90 degrees but the front run is jumping around and seems loose?
You can try tightening a little more and see if that helps. It's common for timing belts to stretch a little as they wear. For that reason we recommend checking the belt tension at every oil change.
Checked it, front run was re-adjusted. This time around i used the gates. It is a noisy belt, and i believe it to be un balanced. I should have just sticked with OEM belt. Live and Learn. Also you're idler bearing is squealing something fierce.
@@kevinp4532Damn, you just saved me a lot of stress! I was gonna buy the gates one but now I’m going to just keep it oem. Thank you so much, one comment also says with this upgrade you have to check the tension every oil change and there’s no way I’m doing that
this tensioner is of which vehicle?
Hey bro what's the correct name for that Manuel tensioner thanks for your help.?
Can I have the number of the tool you use to tension the roller?
I have a 2000 A4 ATW. How do I find out if it's a 058 or 06a. I want the gates for my ride.
From what i know there is a split between the years 2000 and 2001 the 058 block has the water pump outside of the timing belt and 06A block has the water pump internally on the timing belt also the oil pump is slightly different i believe as well to how they are routed
Do you know if the tension remains the same on the 2.0 with 90 Degrees of flex?
Hi I have problems with my timing belt . when diagnosed it’s says timing belt slightly out of rang . Send me your post code please.
i need ti manuel for installation i lost my papers for installation where i found it
I desperately need a DIY for this kit. Am stuck
are there any other specialty tools that i need other than the 2 pin tool?
This set up work good for stock engines? Barely did a timing belt and water pump but having issues with the oem tensioner damper tensioner pulley roller and night have actually stripped/damaged the pulley roller. Something like this seems like it would be easier to work on and maintain so I’m considering
Coming from a Naturally Aspirated Golf 2.0, it's worth it, the tensioner is very straightforward especially for future service. It's uncommon for the tension to come defective.
Hey guys has anyone had problems with the Gates blue timing belt?
Does this apply to alternator belt as well?
Does the tensioner nut ever work itself loose?
Not if it torqued properly. :)
Check to see if you have an external or internal waterpump. Internal waterpump will be driven off the timing belt =06A and a external waterpump will be driven off the accessory belt =058.
my set up for my 02 turbo beetle is different but I like yours better. easier to get the belt on with yours
So. When tensioning the belt. If your verfied timing marks havent moved.
You install the belt. And thus begin tensioning. If the cam moves slightly during tensioning. There shouldnt be anything to worry about bc one tensioned the marks will go back or. Should the marks line up after tension applied and snug+torqued
If i need to offset the marks just enough so that when i have tension and torque the nut that the marks are dead on
Go look at how to properly time your 1.8t, then come back here. You won't always be able to reference the timing marks on the old belt, eg it broke! Thus you should learn how to set up your timing from scratch starting with how to set your engine to TDC, etc, etc, etc....
@@emotionalintelligence776 ive down 4 or 5 timing belt jobs now. As well as one on my girls car. Im.more then capable of timing my or any 1.8t motor. There are for sure some tips and tricks you learn while doing this. This comment was 5 months old. Recently installed new head on my 1.8t and she is running mint besides lean code. But thanks for your comment 😂
@@emotionalintelligence776 when applying the belt you offset crank so when you finally get the belt onto the cam sprocket. The crank TDC mark is right there and your cam sprocket mark should be within a half a tooth either way due to the slight shift with the harmonic balancer pulley.
I have 1.8t 20v engine (auq). I think my belt jumped and im gonna change timing belt n waterpump and tensionee ofc! But the " problem " is that i dont have the belt cover which has marks on it.. So how can i set the timing right? #1 piston to TDC and then just set the cam marks? Sorry about my bad english😂🤘🏼
There are alternative methods, but using true TDC is possible.
You have to be really sure on TDC since we have interference engines.
Great stuff
What's the mileage that is recommended with the gates belt? Love this, will be on my 1.8t on my next timing belt change!
Still same mileage as stock David. :)
@@IEtuned I can confirm Gates belts have over twice the amount of lifetime as stock. However i would still stick to changing it at stock intervals
if i have that much flex in the belt at high revs the belt just flapps about. it needs to be tighter. 45 degree flex is ideal
Hey if your still active. Do you still agree with your comment?
@@ItsViirn yes after changing more belts the one in this video is more loose than it should be.
@@slybunda okay thanks well im going with LSP design with the solid adjuster and locking nut. Cam seal is leaking but i have a new belt and water pump only need a tensioner and roller. So i was looking at this IE set up or the LSP and gettinf new idler pulley and roller
@@ItsViirn the twist test is not a proper official test as stated in the service manual. sonic testers that you pluck the belt and test for frequency in hz are accurate and recommended. deflection test is good to use as shown in this video here: ua-cam.com/video/4fva6d3kZas/v-deo.html yes its a ford engine but this guy has got the tension close enough by using deflection test. 5mm deflection is ideal no more than 1cm deflection on the longest run when pressed from the middle otherwise you risk belt jumping a tooth when cold, remember the belt doesnt stretch much over time usually no more than 2mm stretch over the lift of the belt. if pushed longer then intended service life it could stretch more. engines dont expand as much as people think when hot. imagine if you had 5mm expansion, headgaskets would be leaking left right and center.
"Using a torgue wrench that has not been dropped ..."
Is it Ok to use one that doesn't work as long as it hasn't been dropped?
Perhaps a better choice of words would have been to use a torque wrench that is properly calibrated.
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it.s a lil bit funny because the camshaft gear it..s moving when u aply tension on the tensioner pulley , this is wrong .. because there is a pin between camshaft gear and camshaft , if it moves u had a bad timing !
why all of this kits are not available for 2012 gli 😭
Ooooo fancy, what's a built motor like that run?
Anywhere from 10-20K! We've built customer engines spanning street builds to rally teams. :)
Ayyy Colton! Small world lol
Bullshit wen you try to adjust the tensioner the timming some times goes off
this belt will be loose after couple months and than will be too much play
Yup, this can happen for sure. We recommend checking the belt tension every oil change just to be safe. Do that and you won't have any problems!
If it does not line up when tight you are one tooth off to start with.
i guess i have a hydraulic tensioner?! 1.8t agu
thats for your cams. not related to this portion of timing. this is bottom to the top end. hydraulic tensioner keeps the cams in time.
aew brazileiros kkkkkkkkkkkk rolamento do apzao
Guilherme Henrique mais da certo o do ap ? Pq acho que s correia do audi é mais larga que do ap
@@lcllopes1931 sim mas o rolamento ap e largo tbm .mesma largura do a3
Do ap não dá tem que ser da kombi diesel
ATW = 058. ;)
So my timing belt makes a wierd noise when its in low rpms so i think its the tensioner but i wanna know if theres a way to just fix it and not have to pay for a new one?
Mine (2000 Beetle 1.8T) did the same thing. The timing belt kit I installed was 3 months old (bought from www.ecstuning.com/) and the tensioner failed. Research, after the fact, shows ECS has a history of the same problem. Replaced the tensioner (10 minute job but another 4 hours and a pain in the ass to get to), and now works fine.