How to Get ANY Symmetry (1 to ∞) - KSP

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  • @Hazard-ish
    @Hazard-ish  3 роки тому +394

    Oh and I did notice that part of the ring loads inside one of the satelite dishes, but even when I raised it on launch clamps or loaded the craft from one of the other launch-sites the Kraken still came to town.

    • @maverickf1426
      @maverickf1426 3 роки тому +13

      now make a dyson sphere arround the sun or a planet as a spacestation. maybe multiple parts could work

    • @official_julianvandermade
      @official_julianvandermade 3 роки тому +10

      You said this wouldn't be the end, so 10km, 100km?

    • @justananonymousperson7011
      @justananonymousperson7011 3 роки тому +2

      now make a O'Neill cylinder

    • @icotank
      @icotank 3 роки тому +5

      my question is, can you make a ring around kerbin?

    • @Splinter-ge9pf
      @Splinter-ge9pf 3 роки тому +3

      @@official_julianvandermade10km you say...
      *halo music kicks in*

  • @ShockedCaucasian
    @ShockedCaucasian 3 роки тому +603

    You invented a way to model gas molecule behaviors with KSP crew cabins...... Legendary

    • @marianandnorbert
      @marianandnorbert 3 роки тому +4

      he didn’t invent it tho

    • @marianandnorbert
      @marianandnorbert 3 роки тому +7

      @Carp then how do I have a video showing how to do it from several months ago?
      once again, I’ve learned this from others and it’s been around for a long time, the only new thing about it is the “remove from symmetry” trick to get 5 and 7 way symmetry, which requires the advanced tweakables, which in turn should be on by default imo, it adds so many features that a lot of people just don’t know about

    • @KC-bu8qq
      @KC-bu8qq 3 роки тому +17

      @@marianandnorbert He found a better way to do it. The older symmetry exploit got patched, and I’ve known about the symmetry removing for quite some time.

    • @animationspace8550
      @animationspace8550 3 роки тому +1

      @@KC-bu8qq Nah not really, this same way to duplicate parts has been a thing for quite a while, he didn't really invent it, he just put it in a more clean professional video really. Still nice to see. He even said himself in his comment " *I'm sure some of you already knew about this "feature"* but I'd not seen a clear way to determine the desired symmetry (rather than just making loads) and use it to plan orbital rings. It's given me a couple of new prompts for further development and I hope it gives you a few ideas!"

    • @michaelfarrell4824
      @michaelfarrell4824 3 роки тому +1

      @@marianandnorbert He had a video from 2011 showing him doing it but he deleted it, so yes, he did invent it

  • @Stratzenblitz75
    @Stratzenblitz75 3 роки тому +542

    Love this bug/feature, and love what you've done with it. Really cool shots of the orbital ring!

    • @truth12340
      @truth12340 3 роки тому +5

      why are u not uploading bro

    • @sim9966
      @sim9966 3 роки тому +2

      Its not a bug its a feature :)

    • @truth12340
      @truth12340 3 роки тому

      @Barack Obama Yes sir

    • @roelwieggers4181
      @roelwieggers4181 3 роки тому +5

      @@truth12340 Hes probably figuring out how to do the Jool-5 on jet engines only ;)

    • @truth12340
      @truth12340 3 роки тому

      @@roelwieggers4181 oh

  • @PuncakeLena
    @PuncakeLena 3 роки тому +410

    There's only one logical next step.
    A Halo around Kerbin

    • @CardZed
      @CardZed 3 роки тому +28

      First step would be one around gilly first, then kerbin...
      then jool

    • @julienn3078
      @julienn3078 3 роки тому +22

      And then : DA SUN

    • @PuncakeLena
      @PuncakeLena 3 роки тому +11

      @@julienn3078 IS A DEADLY LASER

    • @julienn3078
      @julienn3078 3 роки тому +1

      AROUND DA SUN YOU MORON ! (my apologies)

    • @TheRealGamada
      @TheRealGamada 3 роки тому

      That would be epic.

  • @Hazard-ish
    @Hazard-ish  3 роки тому +212

    I'm sure some of you already knew about this "feature", but I'd not seen a clear way to determine the desired symmetry (rather than just making loads) and use it to plan orbital rings. It's given me a couple of new prompts for further development and I hope it gives you a few ideas!

    • @someonee3186
      @someonee3186 3 роки тому +3

      8:21 looks like all the dust when Thanos snapped his fingers

    • @ltva8781
      @ltva8781 3 роки тому +3

      You can make fractals in KSP now

    • @someonee3186
      @someonee3186 3 роки тому

      Hazard-ish Challenge. Make a craft that can carry the most passengers possible, while having a long range, and having STOL abilities.

    • @loganferguson6921
      @loganferguson6921 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the vid, I had no idea how people did it until now

    • @acidquotient6338
      @acidquotient6338 3 роки тому +2

      Hazard-ish I have a great idea! Capture a astrroid/comet and put some sort of ring around it, maybe a space station? And sobyou havr a little ring asteroid! Cool isn’t?

  • @skylerlehmkuhl135
    @skylerlehmkuhl135 3 роки тому +71

    A useful tip is to create groups of parts with different number of symmetries and save then as subassemblies; that way you don't need to repeat the whole process next time you need that number.

  • @NURDVEVO
    @NURDVEVO 3 роки тому +124

    THE KING RETURNS!
    Love to see you back, even for a moment.

    • @Hazard-ish
      @Hazard-ish  3 роки тому +27

      Hello!

    • @Hiperruimteindustriee
      @Hiperruimteindustriee 3 роки тому +3

      @@Hazard-ish I think the ring clipped through the observation dish of the tracking centre, waking the kraken. ;)

    • @gerneric454l08
      @gerneric454l08 3 роки тому

      @@Hazard-ish make this ring have its own planet so it will look like we have a moon

  • @theCodyReeder
    @theCodyReeder 3 роки тому +144

    Can you make an O’Neal cylinder with this?

    • @guskiedaisch5078
      @guskiedaisch5078 3 роки тому +7

      probably

    • @azzlytheazzome
      @azzlytheazzome 3 роки тому +10

      You can most definitely do a Stanford Torus with this.

    • @Hazard-ish
      @Hazard-ish  3 роки тому +44

      This is a fantastic idea! I will have to see what I can do

    • @DonTekNO
      @DonTekNO 3 роки тому +14

      @@Hazard-ish hmm maybe there is a way to get very large parts to keep the partcount low ... wasn't there a mod that lets you scale the stock parts freely?

    • @zacharyleung8243
      @zacharyleung8243 3 роки тому +9

      @@DonTekNO tweakscale

  • @kjorndogg3244
    @kjorndogg3244 3 роки тому +66

    One of these around Gilly would be epic. It would be interesting to see how the gravity engine handles it.

    • @whimbur
      @whimbur 3 роки тому +8

      a fun "little" experiment

    • @cm01
      @cm01 3 роки тому +16

      considering the root part would be inside the planet, probably not well

    • @skylerjr2648
      @skylerjr2648 3 роки тому +4

      The solution might be separate it into at least four parts and dock them. It would be a mammoth undertaking just getting the things off Kerbin, let alone the ~7000 m/s of ΔV needed to get to Eve.

    • @ares7181
      @ares7181 3 роки тому +5

      @@skylerjr2648 I think there are issues with physics rendering distances once you try to separate them. Check out the video of the guy building a bridge across the canyon on Dres

    • @skylerjr2648
      @skylerjr2648 3 роки тому +2

      @@ares7181 Hm... Good point.
      With the part count already around a thousand for a 1000 m diameter, the part count for over 13000 m diameter would definitely be beyond any computer's ability to handle.
      Maybe if you scale a single part to that size, but then as you say physics becomes questionable.

  • @avalanchas336
    @avalanchas336 3 роки тому +38

    So... next week Danny uploads an incredibly fine tuned Jool5 SSTO with foldable wings? I like this parallel Timeline

    • @Damien.D
      @Damien.D 3 роки тому

      Yeah looks like some realities got inverted.

    • @vitsalava1251
      @vitsalava1251 3 роки тому

      Hey, even MrOverfloater might come back, right?

    • @Hazard-ish
      @Hazard-ish  3 роки тому +2

      @@vitsalava1251 We can hope!

  • @remigaillard4802
    @remigaillard4802 3 роки тому +49

    i also recommend the Editor Extensions Redux mod which gives (among other things) up to x20 symmetry (editable in the settings for more !)
    And the mod Recoupler which would make these parts attached together

    • @arifkramer4974
      @arifkramer4974 3 роки тому +3

      You can edits its settings for whatever amount of symmetry you want. 20 isnt the limit :)

    • @remigaillard4802
      @remigaillard4802 3 роки тому +3

      @@arifkramer4974 Oh I didn't know that thanks !

    • @Hazard-ish
      @Hazard-ish  3 роки тому +9

      How would Recoupler work here?

    • @remigaillard4802
      @remigaillard4802 3 роки тому +12

      @@Hazard-ish The attachment nodes of each parts being really close to each others would basically connect, so all the cabins would be connected 2 by 2 (just like the strut you added but better because I guess attachment nodes are stronger).
      I already used it in circular stations and it does help a lot

    • @Hazard-ish
      @Hazard-ish  3 роки тому +11

      @@remigaillard4802 That's incredible! I'd not heard of that mod before. I'll have to investigate immediately!

  • @rockettime0358
    @rockettime0358 3 роки тому +7

    8:20
    Here we see the wild Mk3 Crew Cabins in their natural habitat

  • @martoufleouf
    @martoufleouf 3 роки тому +1

    9:44 thats some serious The Expanse vibe there, beltalowda

  • @CupcakesLanders
    @CupcakesLanders 3 роки тому +19

    Worth the wait as always.

  • @ArchaicAlibi
    @ArchaicAlibi 3 роки тому +8

    I lost count of how many times my mind was blown. I can't remember the last time a video did that for me.

  • @joshuasims5421
    @joshuasims5421 3 роки тому +5

    You, sir, have impeccable taste in music. Beautiful craft, I look forward to seeing a ring around Gilly.

  • @j.r.7339
    @j.r.7339 3 роки тому +2

    WOW. I just started rewatching your Videos yesterday!

  • @Exiler652
    @Exiler652 3 роки тому +8

    Haha, you brought a new level of Kraken in this one xD. Love the ending too!

    • @gming8225
      @gming8225 3 роки тому +2

      i was confused about if i am watching hazardish or danny for a moment lmao
      jokes aside i am glad that ring didn't got the kraken attack in the orbit, or it did a lot of times and got edited out, we will never know.

  • @mattman1987
    @mattman1987 3 роки тому +1

    8:30 oh so that's what an atom actually looks like. loved that you used this to rip a hole into another dimension too lmao

  • @lewismassie
    @lewismassie 3 роки тому +4

    I'd heard about this 'feature' but had never seen a recorded example of how to do it. Thanks greatly

  • @arthurbesnard1536
    @arthurbesnard1536 3 роки тому +4

    Hazard-ish + Halo, is this paradise ?

  • @realtacobell
    @realtacobell 3 роки тому +1

    This video was friggin cool! I've been playing 10 years now and I still learn little things every day. I used to painstakingly use radial symmetry to get odd-numbered symmetry.

  • @kerbalspaceinstitute
    @kerbalspaceinstitute 3 роки тому +1

    Your explanations of how you build things is much clearer than Lowne (or anyone else).

  • @123890antonioj
    @123890antonioj 3 роки тому +7

    I dunno what's cooler, the parts rattling around as a swarm or zooming across minmus as a ring

  • @deandre1988
    @deandre1988 3 роки тому +1

    This is your best one yet, fascinating

  • @juliusEST
    @juliusEST 3 роки тому +2

    Your camera-work is incredible!

  • @HappySquiddy
    @HappySquiddy 3 роки тому +6

    Really cool tutorial, hazardish! This opens up so many possibilities! I wonder if you could make the ring even bigger...

  • @lexihaley2887
    @lexihaley2887 3 роки тому +1

    9:36 that shots the money right there; Larry Niven phoned asking if you'd seen any Builders lately

  • @raymondgabriel5724
    @raymondgabriel5724 3 роки тому +2

    This is Remarkable. I'm wondering how excited the KSP devs must be when a new Hazardish video comes out.

  • @moke33b
    @moke33b 3 роки тому +1

    This guy is crazy, and a genius... I don't play KSP, but your vids are so much fun. Next step... orbital ring ? Gundam 00 style ? ^^

  • @katiebarber407
    @katiebarber407 3 роки тому +1

    the frickin cabin dance party bit is hilarious

  • @astroseia3380
    @astroseia3380 3 роки тому

    I've just gotten this vid in my recommended after having forgotten about this channel for a couple years. For once, UA-cam actually recommended me something good. Have a nice day Mr. Hazard-ish!

  • @Matyniov
    @Matyniov 3 роки тому +3

    7:15 you opened portal to the kraken dimention

  • @IstasPumaNevada
    @IstasPumaNevada 3 роки тому +12

    Neatly, a ring 1,000m in diameter would need to spin just under one time a minute to generate earth-surface artificial gravity.

    • @xbrsq
      @xbrsq 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly what ì was about to search up. Thanks!

    • @skylerjr2648
      @skylerjr2648 3 роки тому +2

      Incorrect.
      500 m radius would require 1,337 RPM at a tangential velocity of 70 m/s for 1 G. Slightly rounded down.
      Really, even 0,5 to 0,75 G would be enough for long durations. So even 1 RPM at 500 m radius would suffice.
      To get the RPM under 1, you would need a radius of 1000 m (diameter of 2000 m) and a tangential velocity of 99 m/s for 1 G.

    • @xbrsq
      @xbrsq 3 роки тому +1

      @@skylerjr2648 still, it is approximately correct. Close enough for "practical" purposes

    • @skylerjr2648
      @skylerjr2648 3 роки тому +2

      @@xbrsq Approximately? No. It's 0,55 G meaning he's off by 45%.
      He likely used an online calculator and used the diameter instead of halving it for the radius.

    • @xbrsq
      @xbrsq 3 роки тому +2

      @@skylerjr2648 by close enough, I mean off by less than a factor of 3 or 4. Anyways, 0.55G is acceptable, even if it takes time to adjust to.
      Edit: They probably did use a calculator, or at least did the calculations, just not nessecarily an online one

  • @teenagestacker6063
    @teenagestacker6063 3 роки тому +17

    I’m glad you didn’t leave a craft download in the description, that would have killed 99% of everyone’s computers. 💻 💥

    • @benbaselet2026
      @benbaselet2026 3 роки тому +1

      True, I'd only have a couple left after that

  • @dicedoomkid
    @dicedoomkid 3 роки тому

    Love the wave music. It’s fitting

  • @ExplosiveRabbit
    @ExplosiveRabbit 3 роки тому +2

    trippy video, wow, man! glad to see your return

  • @henrydgolsan5517
    @henrydgolsan5517 3 роки тому +1

    excellent video, looking forward to whatever you have planned next

  • @wamatt2476
    @wamatt2476 3 роки тому +1

    what I tell you my jaw fell TO THE FLOOR @3:10

  • @charlesballard5251
    @charlesballard5251 3 роки тому +1

    I"ll have to watch this again and take notes. Thank you.

  • @wenniePoohhh
    @wenniePoohhh 3 роки тому +1

    the king of ksp come back!!!
    love your works!!

  • @glxytoni
    @glxytoni 3 роки тому +1

    oh my god ive been playing ksp since vers. 0.23 and idk how new this is but i would have never even thought of using this "touching smth with smth to make it that symmetry" to get like 5, 7 or any symmetry really appreciate this one i can build so much more shit

  • @harleyclawson7639
    @harleyclawson7639 Рік тому +1

    Wow this is a cool technique! It even works on console! I can’t believe I didn’t know this. Thanks!!!!

  • @Serf_King
    @Serf_King 3 роки тому +3

    "This is technically one craft.", had me.

  • @Mindawga
    @Mindawga 3 роки тому +2

    Nice tutorial on how to make a particle accelerator in ksp!

  • @BlueAerospace236
    @BlueAerospace236 2 роки тому +1

    5:36 I agree they do remind me of bookshelves from Interstellar!

  • @Zyron_Guy01
    @Zyron_Guy01 3 роки тому +1

    This man just took 1 ring and made it into a fking cabin-super-colony

  • @ryanm.191
    @ryanm.191 3 роки тому +2

    You definitely now need to fly a spacecraft through the ring in an opposite orbit

  • @nuru666
    @nuru666 3 роки тому

    Jesus Christ, I always knew I was a pilot, not an engineer, but did you really have to flex on me quite *that* hard? This is incredible man

  • @siriusk1453
    @siriusk1453 3 роки тому +1

    This, is possibly the largest single craft structure in ksp, the next largest is possibly the Dres bridge but that uses several crafts.

  • @mightylink65
    @mightylink65 3 роки тому +13

    8:16 - When you try to create Halo but you end up with the Flood...

  • @Kataang101
    @Kataang101 Рік тому

    Very Useful info, especially in the more smaller ranges

  • @scifidino5022
    @scifidino5022 3 роки тому +1

    10:29 I thought the camera turning was about to reveal a even bigger ring XD

  • @LikeGG
    @LikeGG 3 роки тому +2

    8:28 looks like an angry bee swarm

  • @FQP-7024
    @FQP-7024 3 роки тому +1

    The man the myth the Hazard has returned to bless us with such a godly creation

  • @marco8414
    @marco8414 3 роки тому +1

    When you first saw Halo, were you blinded by it's majesty?

  • @EtoileBleu52
    @EtoileBleu52 3 роки тому +2

    you seem to have a powerful computer
    mine start hating me after 200+ parts and call for the kraken to save him

  • @bmobert
    @bmobert 3 роки тому

    Astounding work!
    Thank you for sharing!

  • @samyu4473
    @samyu4473 3 роки тому

    Oh press shift+x lower the symmetry by one… I literally pressed every key trying to find this but no luck, thanks hazard-ish!

  • @alexisauld7781
    @alexisauld7781 3 роки тому +2

    Build a wide enough ring that you can "score" Gilly through it!

  • @andrewjones6498
    @andrewjones6498 3 роки тому +1

    Multiple attachments: You had my curiosity
    Tim and Eric meme: You have my attention

  • @TurkeyTray
    @TurkeyTray 3 роки тому +1

    It would be insane to see a ring like Saturn's around Minmus

  • @baflabies
    @baflabies 3 роки тому +1

    Am exited to see next one !:)

  • @firehawk5962
    @firehawk5962 3 роки тому +1

    When you first saw halo, where you blinded by its majesty?

  • @slaanynionysus7420
    @slaanynionysus7420 3 роки тому +1

    Great video man! i loved it!

  • @intenselytired9966
    @intenselytired9966 3 роки тому

    9:31 "Cortana, what exactly am I looking at?"
    "That is another Halo."

  • @someonee3186
    @someonee3186 3 роки тому +1

    Whenever Hazard-ish posts, I wake up and check my phone even though its 1 AM

  • @corajallen9471
    @corajallen9471 3 роки тому

    Damn!!
    Thats amazing!!
    thank you for the trick!
    what a great video!

  • @gommett
    @gommett 2 роки тому

    Everything is literally possible with Harard-ish on our side!

  • @jeffreykirkley6475
    @jeffreykirkley6475 3 роки тому +1

    Installation 04 (the halo you land on in Halo CE) is 10,000 km in radius. Jool is only 6,000 km in radius.
    PLEASE someone torture their PC to make this happen.

  • @Veector94
    @Veector94 3 роки тому +1

    The Mad Lad has spoken words of wisdom!

  • @erridkforname
    @erridkforname 3 роки тому

    I sure know what youtuber will love mesing with this!

  • @wamatt2476
    @wamatt2476 3 роки тому +1

    next step: A artificial ring system AROUND Minmus.

  • @techsbyglebbagrov7470
    @techsbyglebbagrov7470 3 роки тому +3

    Surround gilly with it!

  • @blueberries8985
    @blueberries8985 3 роки тому +1

    this is an acid trip for rocket scientists

  • @astrojoules
    @astrojoules 3 роки тому +1

    Giant ring in space is less Halo and more The Expanse!

  • @Saturn_57
    @Saturn_57 3 роки тому +3

    Actually he made a portal to another dimension!

  • @8749236
    @8749236 3 роки тому

    That's some happy parts jumping around. They must be high on something.

  • @TomSedgman
    @TomSedgman 3 роки тому +1

    Sweet! Larry Niven’s Kringworld! I think you need to try and play orbital hoopla with Gilly

  • @casualbird7671
    @casualbird7671 3 роки тому

    I played around with this symmetry bug a long time ago, it was fun making super round objects out of braces and other things ~

  • @davidecarucci1073
    @davidecarucci1073 3 роки тому +1

    Me using editor extension: im 4 parallel unuverses ahead of you

  • @wigglez0718
    @wigglez0718 3 роки тому +1

    i have an advanced understanding of the universe now

  • @micahwithabeard
    @micahwithabeard 3 роки тому

    wow...i have been playing ksp for over 8 years. and had no idea you could do symmetry like that without mods...

  • @eekee6034
    @eekee6034 3 роки тому +1

    Several fun hacks in one video! 😀 Thanks Hazard-ish! Let me add one more: You can "debug into orbit" straight from the VAB or SPH. Or straight from the SPH, at least; I haven't tested the VAB.
    8:20 I could watch this all day. XD It's a shame the parts had other ideas.
    9:36 There something you no see every day! O.O
    Eee! The low Minmus passes! :D (I

    • @Hazard-ish
      @Hazard-ish  3 роки тому +1

      I’m glad you enjoyed it and learned a few things! I didn’t know you could debug to orbit from the editor! I’ll have to check. I’ve got some much bigger rings coming in the next couple of days :)

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 3 роки тому

      @@Hazard-ish Awesome! :D

  • @hectorfernandez4098
    @hectorfernandez4098 3 роки тому +1

    Larry Niven would be proud.

  • @nootaboot7042
    @nootaboot7042 3 роки тому

    holy shit this is hazard-ish for some reason i thought you were stratzenblitz the entire video

  • @imaginerus
    @imaginerus 3 роки тому

    I think this video is way more interesting than its title implies. Maybe something like "Building a giant halo in KSP" would fit better?

  • @Vesterpester
    @Vesterpester 3 роки тому

    I fully expect us to wittness a dyson sphere around Kerbol after couple more videos on the subject

  • @FutureAIDev2015
    @FutureAIDev2015 15 днів тому

    My graphics card is probably having a heart attack just imagining me trying this madness in game

  • @Янус_Ырт
    @Янус_Ырт 3 роки тому +1

    Well, it's a surprise, but a welcome one

  • @gabrielbonfim3077
    @gabrielbonfim3077 3 роки тому

    Wow!! That was unbelievable. Congrats 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. 😄

  • @yaldabaoth2
    @yaldabaoth2 3 роки тому +1

    I can't wait for the Ori ships to come through.

  • @ItzPretzel
    @ItzPretzel 3 роки тому

    I say this needs to turn into a challenge. Fit moho through a ring!

  • @ornge2626
    @ornge2626 3 роки тому +2

    Pretty Cool, now Incircle Minmus.

  • @fureversalty
    @fureversalty 3 роки тому

    Video idea: create a ksp skyhook? People in the past have tried before but I think with your ingenuity it can be done

  • @johnboyxoxo
    @johnboyxoxo 3 роки тому +1

    Well now I know the proper answer to the prophets question. I was indeed blinded by its majesty.

  • @humea2138
    @humea2138 3 роки тому +1

    IDEA: pass a really big, like f or h sized comet through this

    • @mrbyzantine0528
      @mrbyzantine0528 3 роки тому

      He's gonna edit in the feild post processing to make it appear like the damn ring fired

  • @theimperfectgod7140
    @theimperfectgod7140 3 роки тому

    Everybody gangster until the cabins starts a rave jumping around

  • @thewanderer4564
    @thewanderer4564 3 роки тому

    Best intro I've ever seen or heard

  • @spacexfan1281
    @spacexfan1281 3 роки тому

    We will watch your career with great interest