The new Trek Madone Gen 8 is better than I expected and the Emonda is...GONE??

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  • @fabianmolyneux2308
    @fabianmolyneux2308 4 місяці тому +1

    Great id Josh. Best part was clearly the after-function dinner. It looked so delicious. Being a Trek rider and an Emonda at that I'm sad to see it go. I'm not sold on the new Madone and of all the reviews I have read and seen about it no-one seems to be genuinely impressed. I'm sure the next iteration of Madone, which is on the drawing board will be a real game -changer. Thanks for your work putting this together. It's very good

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  4 місяці тому

      Hahaha! It was super yummy and also quite cheap too 😛
      I am sad to see the Emonda go too, I ride the Emonda and have always been a big fan of it.
      I am keen to give the Gen 8 a go though

  • @RichardLi-vf2xo
    @RichardLi-vf2xo 5 місяців тому +2

    Top shelf stuff Josh, love your work, especially the interview with Richie Porte. I know it is sad that they are discontinuing your bike, but on the bright side, your bike is even more valuable now as limited edition. Looks like you guys had an awesome time, wish I was there with you. Look forward to the next soju event :)

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +1

      Richie Porte is a class act and true Aussie legend. As a new cyclists I didn’t realise he had so many more accomplishments than Tour De France 2020.
      I love your positive spin on every situation, others might say my bike is now antique and outdated ;)
      See you next time 🥰

  • @jamespham888
    @jamespham888 5 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for the footage Josh 👌 the Gen 8 looks 🔥

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      I’m very keen to review it

  • @Preset1
    @Preset1 5 місяців тому +1

    Yesterday after work I went to that store for some tyre kicking. Saw all of these and fell in love with the iridescent oil slick & the two to the right of the staircase, blue one which looks like clouds.
    Thanks for the VIP North Shore perspective!

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +1

      Glad you got to see it too, one thing I’ve got to give to trek is their awesome paint jobs.
      Thanks for watching and commenting

  • @peteralyssayoong7798
    @peteralyssayoong7798 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks Josh for the video. I sadly couldn't make the launch due to other commitments. A great early glimpse into the new Trek and a massive bonus to see the great Richie Port there as well.

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      Sorry you couldn’t make it, but glad you could enjoy the video and experience it through YT!

  • @veryboringname.
    @veryboringname. 5 місяців тому +1

    Getting invited to VIP launches now... someone's going places!
    Those are some pretty nice colours... but boring me still likes matte black. Glad to see the onigiri storage space is still there.
    Nice interview with Richie, he probably wasn't expecting to talk about fruit buns!

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +1

      Haha, I am the same as you. Matte black, nice and discreet. I think I like the idea of a loud bike, but in the end I’ll always ride something a bit more under wraps.
      The smaller frames have a very small onigiri storage, I would not rely on them to hold your snacks 🤣
      Hahaha Richie was a really humble and down to earth guy

  • @chrisvisvis
    @chrisvisvis 5 місяців тому +2

    Awesome vlog, I love we got to hear the changes from you and not the presenter, thanks for making this! I wouldn't have watched any trek event coverage if if wasn't for your content:)

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      Appreciate you dropping by and checking out the video!
      I also saw some juicy looking Giant paint jobs on your IG 😬

  • @caneye
    @caneye 5 місяців тому +1

    Great but brief interview with Porte. He's a legend of the sport and Froome's super domestique. Never had the best fortune in TdF (see 2017 sickening crash). Good to see him enjoying his Trek ambassador role.

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +1

      I would have loved to interview him longer but I didn’t want to take up too much of his valuable time.
      He did talk a bit about being domestique for Froome and it was interesting.

  • @roa5359
    @roa5359 5 місяців тому +1

    Bike manufacturer should give the option to have a minute logo frame (think tiny batch on head tube) unless they pay to ride it. Do we drive cars with the make written large across the sides?

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +1

      Not disagreeing with you, but a big part of branding and expensive stuff is that people want to be associated with it.
      I’d warrant a lot of people like it

  • @anthrology123
    @anthrology123 5 місяців тому +6

    "Stiff and hard to pull out"
    What about the bike josh?

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      Come over and I’ll show you my bike ;)

  • @zeuszuki6698
    @zeuszuki6698 5 місяців тому +1

    Richie was a nice touch 👍
    "One bike to rule them all", it even has a 'speed sniffer' 😅
    The one with the yellow seat stays reminds me of a Look 695.

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      Richie is an Aussie legend
      Tbh if a Madone can be sub 7kg there’s no point to having an Emonda. Unless they decide to make it ultra light below UCI weight limit

  • @Gamblor24
    @Gamblor24 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for sharing content like this, it's rare to see bike launches in person. Now for my next bike, Madone SLR Gen 8 or Factor Ostro VAM....

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      that is a very very hard choice haha. The Factor Ostro VAM is a fantastic bike. You can see the RCC one at the start of the video.

  • @Omnis2
    @Omnis2 5 місяців тому +1

    Gotta say I love that gen 8 Mad One branding.

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      Thanks !! They did a good job :P

  • @jonc2037
    @jonc2037 5 місяців тому +1

    Awesome Josh! Great content

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      Thank you :)

  • @ItsMaxMann
    @ItsMaxMann 5 місяців тому +1

    I can see you on the white pearl model... when is the second bike coming?

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      Haha maybe soon ;)
      Trek pls 🙏

  • @Cliffy29
    @Cliffy29 5 місяців тому +2

    Solid effort with the interview hahaha

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +1

      First pro rider on the channel
      Next up….Pogacar?

  • @Jay-nt2ew
    @Jay-nt2ew 5 місяців тому +1

    sick content and covered the event well. ty

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      Thanks mate!

  • @HeyWattsUpCycling
    @HeyWattsUpCycling 5 місяців тому +1

    times must be tough at trek to make a bike worse than either and have it be the new dedicated bike.....

  • @AMGJason
    @AMGJason 5 місяців тому +1

    Excellent coverage!

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      Thank you for watching :)

  • @DoneAndDustedCycling
    @DoneAndDustedCycling 5 місяців тому +1

    Oooft that oil-slick looks mint. You gonna upgrade?

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      I would love to but the wallet does not allow
      Maybe they’ll loan it to me ;)
      Btw the oil slick one is $25,000 AUD 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

  • @parkingfineattendant
    @parkingfineattendant 5 місяців тому +1

    THAT OIL SLICK 🔥🔥🔥

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      It’s juiiiiiiccyy

  • @LashanPerera-m2w
    @LashanPerera-m2w 4 місяці тому +1

    yooo just a question i recently started cycling and im saving up for a trek bike !! anyways i live in meadowbank so i wanna try that olympic park course sometime, and whenever i watch ur vids towards the end of any chop you do a little sprint outputting like 1000?! watts which is insane... i just wanna know if this 1000w is per second? or per 3 seconds or per 5 seconds?? cuz whenever i hop on my gym's exercise bike for wattage even when sprinting i only get up to 400w EVEN WITH ALL MY ENERGY... idk if im just really terrible rn or if the 1 second measurement of the exercise bike is different to ur power meter.. also power meters are soooo expensive wth!!

    • @LashanPerera-m2w
      @LashanPerera-m2w 4 місяці тому +1

      IM 18 ASWELLL AND I CAN DEADLIFT 100KG SO SURELY ITS NOT ME?!

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  4 місяці тому

      Hey mate, glad to hear you’ve started your cycling journey.
      Whatever you’re seeing on the screen is the power I am doing. I can do just under 1100w for about 10 seconds. It’s decent for my weight (64kg) but definitely nothing pro.
      The gym bike is much harder to push out the big watts. You can’t rock the bike side to side, also don’t have the added benefit of momentum etc.

    • @LashanPerera-m2w
      @LashanPerera-m2w 4 місяці тому +1

      @@joshkwan thanks this cleared up a lot of confusion, ill keep grinding !! (do u have a video or any tips on what bike i should buy?, currently considering an aluminium domane)

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  4 місяці тому

      Not right now but that’s a good idea for a video.
      Depends on your budget and if you’re willing to buy second hand too.
      You might find the Domane a bit too relaxed geometry for your riding style. Sounds like you want to ride fast, I would recommend something more aggressive.

  • @wilsonrobb10
    @wilsonrobb10 5 місяців тому +1

    Bit sad that they are reducing their range. There is big gap from Madone to Domane now. Cool vid though bro.

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      Thanks very much mate
      From what I gather they believe that gap is filled by the ALR version of the Emonda.
      I haven’t looked at the prices but I think the jump from ALR Emonda to SL Madone isn’t too crazy?

    • @wilsonrobb10
      @wilsonrobb10 5 місяців тому +1

      @@joshkwan unfortunately couldn't find one at Nelson Kmart

  • @KolzManz
    @KolzManz 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video as always Josh! Is AK your sister? 😊

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +1

      Haha, I have three younger sisters but AK is not one of them.
      She is a sister in cycling 🤣

  • @nicholasfitzgerald1999
    @nicholasfitzgerald1999 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the content

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching!

  • @DanTuber
    @DanTuber 5 місяців тому +1

    how did you get the invite?

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +1

      I ride with Stephen the district manager sometimes. He invited me.

  • @densyoh
    @densyoh 5 місяців тому +1

    i remember Richie left Trek after his podium finish that TdF year…why is here at a Trek event?😂

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      I think because he got the podium on the trek bike. So he is still associated with the trek brand

  • @ekm3820
    @ekm3820 5 місяців тому +1

    The sizes are confusing so beware. Try before buying. I’m 5.7 and ordered small with longer stem

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for the heads up.
      Currently I ride a size 50 Madone with a 110mm stem. So I think a S would fit me with a normal stem. Thoughts?

    • @ekm3820
      @ekm3820 5 місяців тому

      @@joshkwan yeah 👍🏾

    • @ekm3820
      @ekm3820 5 місяців тому +1

      What’s your height?

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +1

      170cm
      I think that’s 5’6

    • @fen2453
      @fen2453 5 місяців тому +2

      5 foot 6 and ride a 52 Gen6 with the seat at its lowest setting. A small gen8 with a 110 stem fits perfect.

  • @Albin111
    @Albin111 5 місяців тому +2

    Limiting the choice to one do it all bike, coz the bike market has an oversupply of prev stock and not enough buyers!
    Still doesn’t solve the oversupply problem… it’s hard to sell obsolescence of an older model when riders build attachments to their steeds!!

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      Yea I agree. But I think the start to solving the problem is on the manufacturing side. So they’re going in the right direction.

    • @paddymurphy-oconnor8255
      @paddymurphy-oconnor8255 5 місяців тому +1

      A major problem is the cost of these bikes. The Madone, as an example, is too expensive. £12,000 is too much for a bike. £9000 isn't much better. Superbikes need to be priced at £5000 max.

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +1

      Pricing for these bikes is through the roof. But people continue to pay, so I guess it’s just a free market 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @paddymurphy-oconnor8255
      @paddymurphy-oconnor8255 5 місяців тому +1

      @@joshkwan Yes, too many silly people with more money than sense!

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      I’ve never heard of bike finance. I’m sure people do things like “buy now pay later” such as AfterPay.
      I think people need to remember that cycling is a hobby, and financial responsibility needs to come first.

  • @Peter-pn2sz
    @Peter-pn2sz 5 місяців тому +1

    The new bikes don’t rate compared to my 2005 Trek Discovery Channel. 😎

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому

      Hahhaha the OG just hit different

  • @christophershi5605
    @christophershi5605 5 місяців тому +1

    Juicy

  • @syazwanabdull4835
    @syazwanabdull4835 5 місяців тому +1

    Nice already subscribe your channel 🎉

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks mate!

  • @BoomsRiddico4868
    @BoomsRiddico4868 5 місяців тому +3

    sounds like you were a little 'taken in' by the press event! That is obvs their plan but you need to take it all with a pinch of salt and not get sucked in. I would have liked to see you critique the bike a bit more!

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +4

      Haha, I did thoroughly enjoy myself.
      I will reserve critique for when I can ride the bike and see how it feels. Don’t worry I have plans to do that soon :)

    • @paddymurphy-oconnor8255
      @paddymurphy-oconnor8255 5 місяців тому +1

      As he says, he needs to ride if first. This was just a launch.

    • @Jay-nt2ew
      @Jay-nt2ew 5 місяців тому +1

      I think he remained pretty objective. I mean he didn't really state any of his own opinions, just kinda showed what the event was like and summarized what the Trek guys said🤷

  • @paddymurphy-oconnor8255
    @paddymurphy-oconnor8255 5 місяців тому +1

    I’m glad they’ve combined models. Too much choice. And nobody wants the “slow” Émonda when they can aspire to the Madone, now at a lower price. 👍

    • @vietle8157
      @vietle8157 5 місяців тому +3

      Now they've made a slower bike to replace both!

    • @paddymurphy-oconnor8255
      @paddymurphy-oconnor8255 5 місяців тому +1

      They say it’s as fast as the previous Madone… 🤔

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +1

      Weight is the same as the Emonda now. Looking at it I would say it is more aero, but obviously can’t compare till they are side by side in a wind tunnel.
      Overall, I do like the look of it more than I thought I would.

    • @paddymurphy-oconnor8255
      @paddymurphy-oconnor8255 5 місяців тому +1

      @@joshkwan I find it hard to believe it is as fast as the previous Madone.

    • @omarkreidieh3623
      @omarkreidieh3623 5 місяців тому +1

      It's not, it's a little slower even in the curve their marketing team shows.

  • @josephreilman8527
    @josephreilman8527 5 місяців тому +10

    Less aero and barely lighter. If it ain't broken don't fix it. Once again Trek puts marketing ahead of what the customer wants.

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  5 місяців тому +4

      I think if you look at it from more of a wholistic perspecitve of combining two lines of bikes it make sense. For example if the Madone is 7kg there is no point having the Emonda.
      What does the average customer want? I'm not sure since I think I'm in a bit of a bubble haha

    • @omarkreidieh3623
      @omarkreidieh3623 5 місяців тому

      But it's not 7 kg... Most videos I've seen show it at closer to 7.4 - 7.5 in a ML build ... Specialized are def hitting much lighter

    • @joshkwan
      @joshkwan  4 місяці тому +3

      I think you need to do your homework. A specialized SL8 pro is 7.7kg
      Only top spec builds are below 7kg. Most midrange (Ultegra etc) is around 7.5kg.

    • @ekm3820
      @ekm3820 4 місяці тому

      @@omarkreidieh3623you can even get it to 14 pounds. I wish I could upload a picture to show you. It’s definitely possible to spec the bike and make it light.

  • @kabobsyea9985
    @kabobsyea9985 5 місяців тому

    Know you know this overrated 😂

  • @BrianAndTheBike
    @BrianAndTheBike 4 місяці тому

    So Trek just needs to invite to eat a Random chinese to sell a bike