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Thank you so much for making this video, I been searching for more souls like after finishing all the FromSoftware. I love to platinum them and this like it the best I found!
Lies of p apparently did so well that they announced a sequel so we'll be playing the sequel to it in no time hopefully I played the entire game and beat it and it is probably one of the greatest shows like kind of games I've ever played they did a very good job with it, seriously there's another Studio out there that actually can make good Souls like games not saying the other Studios don't do a good job but when it comes to Studios that perfectly copy Dark Souls in the formula the creators of this game did a very good job
Jedi Fallen Order and Remnant were my introductions to the souls genre, so I have some deep love for those titles. I'd also add that I think The Surge 2 could be a good starting spot. Also, I'd say what I feel like is one of the hardest things about getting someone into DS1 was the boss run backs, which could be brutal in Dark Souls but have all been eliminated by Elden Ring. Also speed of combat is remarkedly different from DS 1 to DS3, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Elden Ring, Lies of P, etc. Still it's a great masterpiece and should be played, but maybe after a few others unless the first-timer is really committed.
Now that Black Myth Wukong is out, I’d recommend that one as a starter. Some of the bosses have been really hard, but there’s only dodging and no blocking, so it’ll get you really good at that. Then when you move onto a soulsborne game, you’ll have mastered dodging and can now master parrying and blocking. Wukong is great, though! I wanta try Nioh or Lies of P after.
I would absolutely say that Stranger of Paradise on Normal mode is a FANTASTIC beginner entry into soulslikes. It does break the soulslike mode in that it offers difficulty modes and there is actually a Story mode option for people who don't want to actually play the game, but Normal mode is quite challenging in the beginning when you're starting out but not *too* challenging. For Soulslike veterans, Hard mode is the way to go.
Koei Tecmo has put in enough work that they've basically made a sub genre of "Nioh-like" at this point Strangers or Paradise was a pretty good Nioh-like, imo. Easier than rest of the genre for sure, but tough enough to scratch that "itch", you know?
Ok I had no idea that Lords of the Fallen was a new version of the old game, I thought it was just like the old game getting a steam release or something dumb like that. I had no idea it was like revamped. I noticed a bunch of content creators playing it suddenly and I definitely found that odd but I didn’t think much about it, I kept moving. This is stunning to find out
Well, instead of calling it Lord of the Fallen 2 or something they, for some odd reason, decided to name it EXACTLY like the first game lmao. The new one is pretty decent, especially with all the new patches.
I'm surprised Steelrising is not on here, its a really good soulslike, very easy for veterans so ideal for beginners. I picked it up in sale and had a great time, good story, music and mechanics.
Started with Bloodborne and fell in love. Now im playing Dark Souls 1 remastered and look forward to the redt of the fromsoftware games, lies of p and both NIOHs
Fallen order was my first soulslike. Then i decided to try elden ring. 900 hours later in that and I've got demons souls, ds1, ds2, some of bloodborne, and ds3 under my belt.
As a new soulsborne gamer and for developing the mindset of "parrying/soulsborne gamer" , I highly suggest playing these 2 games: - Code Vein - Steel Rising CV might be slightly difficult but you will always get an AI companion who can help you kill monsters. I learned to Parry in Code Vein. Steel Rising is definitely the easiest soulsborne and the best entry level game for getting yourself a glimpse into the Soulsborne genre. I'm playing both of these games and have helped me to shape my skills, tho I'm not a soulsborne try hard but now I can defend myself. Once I finish these games, I will play Wu Hong & Dark Souls remake, hopefully around Holidays, I would be ready to jump in on Elden Ring or Bloodborne. So, that's my path for playing soulsborne genre.
For sure play Dark Souls remastered before any other Fromsoft souls game. Then work your way through them as they were released. Otherwise, you will NOT want to go back to the older titles (YES EVEN DARK SOULS 2!!!). You will be missing out on tons of awesome gaming by doing that.
I think “The Surge” is such an underrated masterpiece. I’m a fan of the first game, not the sequel. The Surge 1 is so damn good, I’ve beaten it like 7 times
From playing through an absolute ton of Soulslikes, the only games that make me forget I'm essentially playing a copy of a game are Nioh 2 and Lies of P. Both of them are excellent games on their own and I'd happily play them multiple times over. Games like Mortal Shell are ok if you've played lots of other Souls games and want something different but it leaves me wishing I was playing the real thing.
That's a huge problem for me with souls like. The way From Soft has kept the combat simple yet to meaningful and impactful. And there is a perfect learning curve. The game gives you all the tools. It is up to you how to utilize them properly.
I've wanted to get into soulslikes for quite a while and found dark souls 1 and elden ring quite overwhelming, I've been playing the 2014 version of lords of the fallen and it is significantly more forgiving, wouldn't recommend for seasoned players but if you're new it'll really help, now I'm looking forward to jumping into something abit more complex
Absolutely love me some Soulslike games. I've played & enjoyed them all in this video... Fantastic way to go after you spent thousands of hours into the fromsoft games.. I love all these games especially Lords of the Fallen, Lies of P, Mortal Shell & Thymesia..
I know you said you didn’t play it but something to note that makes Code vein a great intro to souls like is it’s a great teacher on how the souls build system works, you have prebuilt stat spreads that you can slot in and out (rather points its a scaling system so from E rank to S+) allowing you to quickly switch between builds VERY easily, and it’s a good teacher on “ok this is what a strength build would play like, this is a caster build, tank, dodge tank, dex build” so on and so fourth and gives you a good feel not only how the build feels but how you are exposed to build such builds with what the scaling stat spreads showcase, i remeber my first soulsborne where me being an idiot not know what to do tried to spread all my level ups equally among ALL stats
I agree with almost everything you said and I really like the way you explained in detail the advantages and disadvantages of each game. My one disagreement is Dark Souls as a starter. I agree that it's harder to go back and play after the other ones, but it is so noob unfriendly, and I don't think any of today's gamers are going to have the patience for figuring things out. When I played it back in 2011 I quit twice, the first time right after I got out of the undead asylum and realized I could barely level up. And the stat pages and menu are complete and utter nonsense at the beginning. So my suggestion if you're going to play Dark Souls 1, don't be afraid to look things up on the internet, you might get some spoilers but there's some stuff I don't even know how anybody figured out on their own.
Hello there! All valid points you've got and I appreciate the perspective. Stat pages in most Fromsoftware games will most likely make absolutely no sense to beginners but I feel like if I have to pick one of the souls games to recommend to a beginner, it has to be DS1 (could be DS3 as well, it's way more straightforward in terms of direction). I just think no other game will teach you or help you figure out stat pages anyways, you kinda have to do it one way or another if you want to continue playing and because of that I think DS1 could be your best shot. I'm 100% not trying to devalue your points and I totally agree that new players shouldn't be afraid to look things up if they are stuck or confused. Some off topic: I checked out your channel too and I liked it a lot. As a guitar player myself I find your videos very inspirational. Cheers!
Whats kinda funny is that i played lies of p again with dodging only and a lot of boss fights are way easier that way, then in my 3rd playthrough i began mixing and matching parries and dodges and the combat became legendary.
I was replaying it like a month ago and the whole thing felt a little bit too easy (and I remembered it being very hard haha). Felt like it's been nerfed or something.
@@MightyMelvo Boss health on NG was lowered, it actually was on the high side initially for lot of the bosses with two phases. Some other games have had the reverse, Lords of the Fallen had to raise boss health and tone down regular enemy numbers, and Steelrising always had the problem on second half of the game where boss health and damage output was tuned too low compared to what upgrades the player can get. Elder Ring also has that problem, it has a weird difficulty curve where somewhere later in the game difficulty jumps way up suddenly, and bosses get quite tanky compared to what was happening 2 hours prior. LoP is a hard game when you don't know how to play it and aren't feeling the rhythm of parries and when to dodge and in what direction, just like Sekiro is. Once you do and maybe get some of the special items or perks that let you "break" certain rules (being able to dodge red attacks from a boss amulet or blocking red attacks in NG+2), it becomes much more manageable.
Oh niiiice, right when I got me some food and a drink! Cheers mate! Also, I keep getting this absolutely cursed ad every time I watch any of your videos 😆😆😆😆
The hardest souls like game is genshin impact. There are criterias to fulfill tho. 1. Do not use 4 character. (Just get 1) 2. Weapon and artifacts has to be top knotch. 3. Play with the mc(aether/lumine) 4. Play the knave boss at level 90 difficulty. 5.have fun.
I went a weird route. My first souls like game is sekiro, I have never played anything related to souls like before. And oh boy I just got hooked. Guess what my fav genre now. After it I played Lies of P, DS3. I am shelving elden ring because I want to experience it completely when I am more free.
What you said about Sekiro's combat, "once it clicks, it clicks for good", is so very true. Even picking it up again years later, I can still "win" the first fight with Genichiro you are supposed to lose. There is no other souls game where this is the case. Edit: and I would recommend it for beginners as much as any of the other games. Playing a Dark Souls game or Elden Ring isn't going to help anyone be better at Sekiro, it's too different.
That's right, your DS experience is irrelevant in Sekiro and will actually get you in trouble. (I think a lot of DS vets couldn't get into Sekiro because they were trying to play it as if it was a Souls game lol). I just think Sekiro requires a whole different level of dedication, precision, stellar reaction and it could be very intimidating for people who are not familiar with a punishing and unforgiving nature of games like this. Still totally playable and beatable if it's your first game! Cheers mate
Well, it’s kind of a soulslike. You have bonfires, there’s backtracking and it’s challenging enough on the highest difficulty. Hated the puzzles though 😆
If you have ps plus you probably already have mortal shell and Remnant 1 for free. I've played mortal shell and it's really fun. Still need to go back and beat it
I think both Surge games are pretty decent intro into souls likes. Not too hard, but hard enough. That being it's probably worth starting at Demon Souls or DS1, so one can appreciate them more. I struggle to find them fun after playing the newer games.
There will be a review video for Dragon's Dogma 2 for sure. Also No rest for the wicked and Black Myth. Anything major that is related to the subgenre will be reviewed hehe
Steelrising was my intro into this genre. It has that assist mode to ease you into everything which is completely optional. The first game I actually tried was Bloodborne and hated it. Then months later I tried Steelrising, and had a lot of fun with it. From there, I moved onto Remnant and Lies of P. I tried Demons Souls, but just wasn't getting into it. Story and theme are important to me, and the whole medieval thing just isn't for me. I may return to Bloodborne at some point, though, if we ever get 60 fps.
I think its best to start where it all started- with Demons souls or Darks souls 1. Whichever you choose will probably be the hardest, but following ones will be easier, as you will know and understand mechanics. After you play all FROM souls and Bloodborne (imo their best game), you can try Sekiro (which is different than souls) or games from other companies. My top non From souls games: Nioh 2, Remnant series, Mortal shell, Hellpoint, new Lotf, Steelrising. And if you like 2D platformers: Hollow knight, Salt and sanctuary, Ender lillies, Blasphemous, Grime.
LOTF is one of my favorite souls likes. I really like the dark look of the world's, the armor and overall art style of the game. it's got forgiving rolls and s which I wasn't sure about at first, but feels good with aggressive mobs the game throws at you. The new in game modifiers are good fun as well. Towards the end of a new game plus run now. I have put double the amount of hours into Lords than I put into LOP. LOP had some cool mechanics and I really enjoyed the majority of the boss design and had some forgiving parry windows that were satisfying to hit. I tried to be open minded to the story, but I just couldn't get into the whole Pinocchio thing, but still a fun game for me. Can't wait to see what they hinted at the end. 🤞 Interesting concept
It's a weird thing. I like LoP better, I think it's objectively a better game (very high quality, extremely polished) but still, I spent more time playing LOTF haha. I like the overall aesthetics of LOTF better.
tha surge 1 and 2 was amazing, its a sci fi darksouls but cant rely summons. sekiro is tha last 1 to touch. i really enjoyed code vein too with the partner system and all the unique vestige builds.
Elden ring is really good i played it a lot until i finished the DLC, the Nioh and Wo long i think they are amazing games and also very hard to master I also liked the Lords of the fallen it's one of the few souls like games that u can make a viable ranged build or just go for the a dual wielding with almost no problem at all changing builds
Great Content ,I'm new to your channel also I would like to add a couple of Soulslihe 1) Inferno Climber:Reborn it's an open world Souls like 2) The Surge 1& 2 also a side scrolling MetroidVania Soulsborne Video their more of those than the 3d ones,Cheers
Cheers bud, welcome to the channel! True, I'll probably make a separate video about 2D metroidvania soulslike games, there's a plenty of really good titles!
I liked the combat and story of Mortal Shell but I was very disappointed with the length. There should have been much more added on. It’s like the developers rushed to get the game out and made a quick game with half a story.
Code vein was my personal favorite souls like. Lords of the fallen was just ok. Nioh 2 i bounced off of. Wo long was also extremely fun, i preffered it over Nioh 2 by a country mile.
I would have recommended Steelrising over Thymesia and Surge 2 over Mortal Shell. Both tell a better story, aren't as stunted on content, potentially easier, look vastly better and are cheap too.
Just wanna say that Wo Long is on PC Game Pass. Also, a 3rd person shooter is not a soulslike no matter what dodge mechanics they put in there, you can't convince me otherwise XD
The list seems to contain a "see if you can spot the errors" quiz. Here's the two games that don't belong to this list: - Thymesia's first boss is a hefty road block, the game mechanics is clunky and the game is so short that it ends before you got the hang of its combat system. This is absolutely not a good entry point for noobs. - Wo Long's bosses are tough as nails, absolutely unbalanced. Not beginner friendly by any stretch of the imagination. The rest of the list is ok. *Jedi Fallen Order* would be my recommendation for a first Soulslike. It's the easiest of the list but still very engaging. Elden Ring was my first Soulsborne and is great for noobs who are ok with doing some research online. Demon's Souls can be a good entry point too for some people since the bosses are so easy. The boss runs themselves are sometimes rough but don't demand much skill, only concentration.
I started my journey with sekiro. Now i end up playing all games in this list expect remnant and starwar. And the non mentioned game called code vein. Am currently playing elden ring DLC. And soon gona start my next game Deathbound. Its like am hunting all soul like games ... Credits goes to sekiro 😂😂
Thank you! Yeah, LOTF is a definition of hit or miss, I think. I liked it a lot, finished the game four or five times and will likely play some more after the update haha
As a die hard Elden Ring fan, I respect your opinion. Elden Ring imo is one of the best games ever, but it's not for everyone. Regarding Lies of P, it's such a phenomenal game, I really enjoyed it after beating Elden Ring and Sekiro, it was like the mix of these two. The game has Elden Ring's level of amazing cool bosses and art direction, very similar great level progression, build variety, dodging and stance mechanics combined with Sekiro's infamous parry system. Imo Lies of P is on par with Fromsoft games. I would go as far as to say Lies of P has even higher quality than DS3 and Bloodborne, it bests those 2 in some many different ways
The newer God Of War should be included. I used to absolutely haaaaaaate this sub genre until God Of War (2018) forced me to learn to play this type of game. Before then, I tried Nioh. Hated it. Never touched it again until after God Of War. Now, Nioh is one of my favorite games. Obviously Nioh 2 is better 😂
Code Vein is garbage. Mortal Shell is the closest Souls like I’ve played to Dark Souls. Remnant is cool, but not solo. It’s unplayable solo. I couldn’t get into The Surge or Hellpoint. Though they’re not BAD. They’re just meh IMO. Ask, Nioh 2 is superior to Nioh in every way possible IMO.
im gonna plat these (mortal shell thymesia wo long fallen dynastyasty demon souls remaster lords fallen elden ring ds3 ds2 ds remastered blood borne sekiro)
Most souls likes to me are boring since they have mediocre world and level design. Only souls likes I’ve played which can match fromsoft in that regard is Hellpoint and Bleak Faith.
Thank you for the video! Although I do noy agree with many of the games listed LOL. 7- Mortal Shell stinks imo, not good at all; 6 - Thymesia I droped too early to say anything; 5 - Remnant is dope! Awesome games. Quite different from the average soulslike, but that's the charm; 4 - Wo Long is a game that I do not hate. I think it is OK. But is not a good entry point by any means imo, because it barely shows the best that genre has to offer. You just go there chasing flags over and over again till you max it and then you fight a boss... the lore is kinda meh, level design nothing to write home about, I don't really remember any music from the game, and even the combat is kinda weird sometimes (far worse than Nioh btw); 3 - Lords of the Fallen is not bad. I dropped it because I felt there were better games releasing at the time, but I plan to revisit one day. The game reminded me a lot of Dark Souls 2 though, which is my least favorite soulsborne; 2 - Fallen Order is pretty good. But I don't get it why call it soulslike, it make as much sense as saying that Hollow Knight is soulslike LOL. That game feels more like a natural evolution of The Force Unleashed than anything else. 1 - I could not argue with any of those 3 recommendations. I would probably say they are the best entry point to the genre for anyone. Lies of P, Sekiro and Nioh are really great, as you said, and I would agree they may not be the ideal entry point to the genre. in the end, I would say that starting with FromSoftware game is the best thing to do, because they are quite good. They nail many thing that many other souslike don't. After them (and that may take quite a while) I would go to Lies of P, Remnant and Nioh.
I agree with that starting with FS games is a way to go. They have this magic to them others only try to replicate and most fail. Also it's nice to experience all the mechanics in their original form, so to speak 😀 Thanks for checking out the video and sharing your perspective, dude!
Honestly I hate Demons Souls but I adore all the other from FromSoftware game (except Dark Souls 2, haven’t played it yet) mechanic are terrible and I’m even talking about in the remake so it doesn’t get a pass you just kinda have to guess when the enemy is gonna attack because you won’t dodge until 10 seconds later. Can’t stand Demons Souls I want my inputs to respond to what I put into my controller and the other games do that very well
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Lord of the fallen is so boring ill give a poiint to nioh and lies of p
Including prices is such a great idea for this type of video! Great job, Melvo 👏🏻
Glad you liked it, thank you for watching! ❤❤
Thank you so much for making this video, I been searching for more souls like after finishing all the FromSoftware. I love to platinum them and this like it the best I found!
Thank you very much for watching! You probably should go with either Mortal Shell or Thymesia. These are easier to platinum than the rest :)
Nioh and lies of P that's all you need
Lies of p is impossible
@@DoubleTMattyour just ass at it
Surge 2 and Blasphemous too
“Vampyr” too!
@@DoubleTMattno it's not😂
Lies of p apparently did so well that they announced a sequel so we'll be playing the sequel to it in no time hopefully I played the entire game and beat it and it is probably one of the greatest shows like kind of games I've ever played they did a very good job with it, seriously there's another Studio out there that actually can make good Souls like games not saying the other Studios don't do a good job but when it comes to Studios that perfectly copy Dark Souls in the formula the creators of this game did a very good job
Jedi Fallen Order and Remnant were my introductions to the souls genre, so I have some deep love for those titles. I'd also add that I think The Surge 2 could be a good starting spot.
Also, I'd say what I feel like is one of the hardest things about getting someone into DS1 was the boss run backs, which could be brutal in Dark Souls but have all been eliminated by Elden Ring. Also speed of combat is remarkedly different from DS 1 to DS3, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Elden Ring, Lies of P, etc. Still it's a great masterpiece and should be played, but maybe after a few others unless the first-timer is really committed.
Now that Black Myth Wukong is out, I’d recommend that one as a starter. Some of the bosses have been really hard, but there’s only dodging and no blocking, so it’ll get you really good at that. Then when you move onto a soulsborne game, you’ll have mastered dodging and can now master parrying and blocking. Wukong is great, though! I wanta try Nioh or Lies of P after.
Lol no
I would absolutely say that Stranger of Paradise on Normal mode is a FANTASTIC beginner entry into soulslikes. It does break the soulslike mode in that it offers difficulty modes and there is actually a Story mode option for people who don't want to actually play the game, but Normal mode is quite challenging in the beginning when you're starting out but not *too* challenging. For Soulslike veterans, Hard mode is the way to go.
Koei Tecmo has put in enough work that they've basically made a sub genre of "Nioh-like" at this point
Strangers or Paradise was a pretty good Nioh-like, imo. Easier than rest of the genre for sure, but tough enough to scratch that "itch", you know?
Ok I had no idea that Lords of the Fallen was a new version of the old game, I thought it was just like the old game getting a steam release or something dumb like that. I had no idea it was like revamped. I noticed a bunch of content creators playing it suddenly and I definitely found that odd but I didn’t think much about it, I kept moving. This is stunning to find out
Well, instead of calling it Lord of the Fallen 2 or something they, for some odd reason, decided to name it EXACTLY like the first game lmao.
The new one is pretty decent, especially with all the new patches.
I'm surprised Steelrising is not on here, its a really good soulslike, very easy for veterans so ideal for beginners. I picked it up in sale and had a great time, good story, music and mechanics.
Started with Bloodborne and fell in love. Now im playing Dark Souls 1 remastered and look forward to the redt of the fromsoftware games, lies of p and both NIOHs
Fallen order was my first soulslike. Then i decided to try elden ring. 900 hours later in that and I've got demons souls, ds1, ds2, some of bloodborne, and ds3 under my belt.
As a new soulsborne gamer and for developing the mindset of "parrying/soulsborne gamer" , I highly suggest playing these 2 games:
- Code Vein
- Steel Rising
CV might be slightly difficult but you will always get an AI companion who can help you kill monsters. I learned to Parry in Code Vein.
Steel Rising is definitely the easiest soulsborne and the best entry level game for getting yourself a glimpse into the Soulsborne genre.
I'm playing both of these games and have helped me to shape my skills, tho I'm not a soulsborne try hard but now I can defend myself.
Once I finish these games, I will play Wu Hong & Dark Souls remake, hopefully around Holidays, I would be ready to jump in on Elden Ring or Bloodborne.
So, that's my path for playing soulsborne genre.
For sure play Dark Souls remastered before any other Fromsoft souls game. Then work your way through them as they were released. Otherwise, you will NOT want to go back to the older titles (YES EVEN DARK SOULS 2!!!). You will be missing out on tons of awesome gaming by doing that.
Sekiro was my first soulsborne game that is the game that developed my love for souls series
I started with Lies of P and Fallen order and I'm loving it. Just got Elden Ring.
Great list!! If someone is looking to test out the genre but doesn’t want a fantasy setting, I loved both Surge games. Great sci-fi soulslike.
I think “The Surge” is such an underrated masterpiece. I’m a fan of the first game, not the sequel. The Surge 1 is so damn good, I’ve beaten it like 7 times
Totally agree it’s underrated. Also think that both games are pretty good :)
From playing through an absolute ton of Soulslikes, the only games that make me forget I'm essentially playing a copy of a game are Nioh 2 and Lies of P. Both of them are excellent games on their own and I'd happily play them multiple times over. Games like Mortal Shell are ok if you've played lots of other Souls games and want something different but it leaves me wishing I was playing the real thing.
That's a huge problem for me with souls like. The way From Soft has kept the combat simple yet to meaningful and impactful. And there is a perfect learning curve. The game gives you all the tools. It is up to you how to utilize them properly.
Great list, love thymesia, and feel it is underrated
It is quite an obscure game indeed. I wonder if they're planning to make Thymesia 2 or have another soulslike game in the works
what game is that at 0:29 it looks so good?
Upcoming game phantom blade zero
Surge 2 is underrated soulslike. I cannot decide if its the best non from sofware game or Lies of P.
I've wanted to get into soulslikes for quite a while and found dark souls 1 and elden ring quite overwhelming, I've been playing the 2014 version of lords of the fallen and it is significantly more forgiving, wouldn't recommend for seasoned players but if you're new it'll really help, now I'm looking forward to jumping into something abit more complex
Lies Of P, Elden Ring and Nioh are my favorites
Have you tried Steel Rising?
Theres a bit of jank and the enemy variety is lacking, but the game deserves more love.
I actually have but I didn't like it too much. I'll give it some time and try it again but the first two hours were such a drag I dropped it.
Sekiro was my first soulslike/souls game and it's still my favourite
Absolutely love me some Soulslike games. I've played & enjoyed them all in this video... Fantastic way to go after you spent thousands of hours into the fromsoft games.. I love all these games especially Lords of the Fallen, Lies of P, Mortal Shell & Thymesia..
love your review man
I know you said you didn’t play it but something to note that makes Code vein a great intro to souls like is it’s a great teacher on how the souls build system works, you have prebuilt stat spreads that you can slot in and out (rather points its a scaling system so from E rank to S+) allowing you to quickly switch between builds VERY easily, and it’s a good teacher on “ok this is what a strength build would play like, this is a caster build, tank, dodge tank, dex build” so on and so fourth and gives you a good feel not only how the build feels but how you are exposed to build such builds with what the scaling stat spreads showcase, i remeber my first soulsborne where me being an idiot not know what to do tried to spread all my level ups equally among ALL stats
Ive platinumed most soulsbourne a lot more than there are on this list.
The genre teaches patience and anger management like nothing else.
Code Vein was lit but it’s definitely very buff heavy in new game plus cycles. Buffing 6 times before stepping in a boss arena
I agree with almost everything you said and I really like the way you explained in detail the advantages and disadvantages of each game. My one disagreement is Dark Souls as a starter. I agree that it's harder to go back and play after the other ones, but it is so noob unfriendly, and I don't think any of today's gamers are going to have the patience for figuring things out. When I played it back in 2011 I quit twice, the first time right after I got out of the undead asylum and realized I could barely level up. And the stat pages and menu are complete and utter nonsense at the beginning. So my suggestion if you're going to play Dark Souls 1, don't be afraid to look things up on the internet, you might get some spoilers but there's some stuff I don't even know how anybody figured out on their own.
Hello there! All valid points you've got and I appreciate the perspective. Stat pages in most Fromsoftware games will most likely make absolutely no sense to beginners but I feel like if I have to pick one of the souls games to recommend to a beginner, it has to be DS1 (could be DS3 as well, it's way more straightforward in terms of direction). I just think no other game will teach you or help you figure out stat pages anyways, you kinda have to do it one way or another if you want to continue playing and because of that I think DS1 could be your best shot. I'm 100% not trying to devalue your points and I totally agree that new players shouldn't be afraid to look things up if they are stuck or confused.
Some off topic: I checked out your channel too and I liked it a lot. As a guitar player myself I find your videos very inspirational. Cheers!
Whats kinda funny is that i played lies of p again with dodging only and a lot of boss fights are way easier that way, then in my 3rd playthrough i began mixing and matching parries and dodges and the combat became legendary.
I was replaying it like a month ago and the whole thing felt a little bit too easy (and I remembered it being very hard haha). Felt like it's been nerfed or something.
@@MightyMelvo Boss health on NG was lowered, it actually was on the high side initially for lot of the bosses with two phases. Some other games have had the reverse, Lords of the Fallen had to raise boss health and tone down regular enemy numbers, and Steelrising always had the problem on second half of the game where boss health and damage output was tuned too low compared to what upgrades the player can get.
Elder Ring also has that problem, it has a weird difficulty curve where somewhere later in the game difficulty jumps way up suddenly, and bosses get quite tanky compared to what was happening 2 hours prior.
LoP is a hard game when you don't know how to play it and aren't feeling the rhythm of parries and when to dodge and in what direction, just like Sekiro is. Once you do and maybe get some of the special items or perks that let you "break" certain rules (being able to dodge red attacks from a boss amulet or blocking red attacks in NG+2), it becomes much more manageable.
Oh niiiice, right when I got me some food and a drink! Cheers mate!
Also, I keep getting this absolutely cursed ad every time I watch any of your videos 😆😆😆😆
haha which one? the one with ugly little men trying to get to the ugly princess that turns into an ugly flower? 😆
My first ever souls like was lies of p, I quick after I couldn’t get through the second area😭
The hardest souls like game is genshin impact.
There are criterias to fulfill tho.
1. Do not use 4 character. (Just get 1)
2. Weapon and artifacts has to be top knotch.
3. Play with the mc(aether/lumine)
4. Play the knave boss at level 90 difficulty.
5.have fun.
I went a weird route. My first souls like game is sekiro, I have never played anything related to souls like before. And oh boy I just got hooked. Guess what my fav genre now. After it I played Lies of P, DS3. I am shelving elden ring because I want to experience it completely when I am more free.
What you said about Sekiro's combat, "once it clicks, it clicks for good", is so very true. Even picking it up again years later, I can still "win" the first fight with Genichiro you are supposed to lose. There is no other souls game where this is the case.
Edit: and I would recommend it for beginners as much as any of the other games. Playing a Dark Souls game or Elden Ring isn't going to help anyone be better at Sekiro, it's too different.
That's right, your DS experience is irrelevant in Sekiro and will actually get you in trouble. (I think a lot of DS vets couldn't get into Sekiro because they were trying to play it as if it was a Souls game lol). I just think Sekiro requires a whole different level of dedication, precision, stellar reaction and it could be very intimidating for people who are not familiar with a punishing and unforgiving nature of games like this. Still totally playable and beatable if it's your first game! Cheers mate
Good stuff mate! Played almost every game on your list (except for this Jedi game, I didn't even know it's a soulslike ha)
Well, it’s kind of a soulslike. You have bonfires, there’s backtracking and it’s challenging enough on the highest difficulty. Hated the puzzles though 😆
If you have ps plus you probably already have mortal shell and Remnant 1 for free. I've played mortal shell and it's really fun. Still need to go back and beat it
Steelrising is by one of the easiest one here and it really does get you invested in the games
Can't disagree with this list, thanks for the video
Thank you for watching! ❤
I think both Surge games are pretty decent intro into souls likes. Not too hard, but hard enough. That being it's probably worth starting at Demon Souls or DS1, so one can appreciate them more. I struggle to find them fun after playing the newer games.
Nice video mate!
Cheers buddy!
great video, I would recommend to put the game title while you showing the clips or at least show the game cover image at the beginning of each video
Mortal shell almost broke me I pretty much got stuck in first part of the game...
I really dig this new type of content of yours but will there be reviews and such in the future?
There will be a review video for Dragon's Dogma 2 for sure. Also No rest for the wicked and Black Myth. Anything major that is related to the subgenre will be reviewed hehe
DD2 is not a soulslike though, but still!
Jedi fallen order taught me how to play this genre
Steelrising was my intro into this genre. It has that assist mode to ease you into everything which is completely optional. The first game I actually tried was Bloodborne and hated it. Then months later I tried Steelrising, and had a lot of fun with it. From there, I moved onto Remnant and Lies of P. I tried Demons Souls, but just wasn't getting into it. Story and theme are important to me, and the whole medieval thing just isn't for me. I may return to Bloodborne at some point, though, if we ever get 60 fps.
Could you make a video for souls like games on Mac???
I think its best to start where it all started- with Demons souls or Darks souls 1. Whichever you choose will probably be the hardest, but following ones will be easier, as you will know and understand mechanics. After you play all FROM souls and Bloodborne (imo their best game), you can try Sekiro (which is different than souls) or games from other companies.
My top non From souls games: Nioh 2, Remnant series, Mortal shell, Hellpoint, new Lotf, Steelrising. And if you like 2D platformers: Hollow knight, Salt and sanctuary, Ender lillies, Blasphemous, Grime.
Good take.
And yeah, those 2D platformers are absolutely sick. I might also add The Last Faith - it's a 2D soulslike inspired by Bloodbourne.
Armoured core. - Brutal!
I am playing Steelrising. It's a decent game as well.
Are you on PC or console? Performance on PC is not very good on my end :(
@@MightyMelvo PS5
LOTF is one of my favorite souls likes. I really like the dark look of the world's, the armor and overall art style of the game. it's got forgiving rolls and s which I wasn't sure about at first, but feels good with aggressive mobs the game throws at you. The new in game modifiers are good fun as well. Towards the end of a new game plus run now. I have put double the amount of hours into Lords than I put into LOP. LOP had some cool mechanics and I really enjoyed the majority of the boss design and had some forgiving parry windows that were satisfying to hit. I tried to be open minded to the story, but I just couldn't get into the whole Pinocchio thing, but still a fun game for me. Can't wait to see what they hinted at the end. 🤞 Interesting concept
It's a weird thing. I like LoP better, I think it's objectively a better game (very high quality, extremely polished) but still, I spent more time playing LOTF haha. I like the overall aesthetics of LOTF better.
Some of the easier games of the genre which can be good for beginners are:
Ashen, Steelrising and Darksiders 3.
Darksiders isn't a Soulslike though
tha surge 1 and 2 was amazing, its a sci fi darksouls but cant rely summons. sekiro is tha last 1 to touch. i really enjoyed code vein too with the partner system and all the unique vestige builds.
“Challenging” means it’s a grind
Elden ring is really good i played it a lot until i finished the DLC, the Nioh and Wo long i think they are amazing games and also very hard to master
I also liked the Lords of the fallen it's one of the few souls like games that u can make a viable ranged build or just go for the a dual wielding with almost no problem at all changing builds
I hate to be that guy, but what game is at 0:30?
That's Phantom Blade 0
@@MightyMelvo thank you very much!
Hell yeah new stuff!
Great Content ,I'm new to your channel also I would like to add a couple of Soulslihe 1) Inferno Climber:Reborn it's an open world Souls like 2) The Surge 1& 2 also a side scrolling MetroidVania Soulsborne Video their more of those than the 3d ones,Cheers
Cheers bud, welcome to the channel! True, I'll probably make a separate video about 2D metroidvania soulslike games, there's a plenty of really good titles!
Lies of P made me love the genre when Elden ring and Bloodborne couldn’t
For me personally the Surge games are missing but otherwise great vide!
I liked the combat and story of Mortal Shell but I was very disappointed with the length. There should have been much more added on. It’s like the developers rushed to get the game out and made a quick game with half a story.
you should try The Surge 2. It's a great soulslike
I just played this genre of games and was looking for interesting games, and I found sekiro, and you know, I'm stuck on a mini boss 😅😢
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Code vein was my personal favorite souls like. Lords of the fallen was just ok.
Nioh 2 i bounced off of.
Wo long was also extremely fun, i preffered it over Nioh 2 by a country mile.
I would have recommended Steelrising over Thymesia and Surge 2 over Mortal Shell. Both tell a better story, aren't as stunted on content, potentially easier, look vastly better and are cheap too.
I started and currently play dark souls 3
Enjoy that. It is my favorite souls game of all time.
I wasn't interested in those game to be honest. But since you pointed out that some of them are short now I'll give them a go.
Mortal Shell and Thymesia are both very short and quite cheep on sale too!
Mortal Shell is the best non FromSoft soulslike, hate me if you want
No, I actually love you!
Also, Mortal Shell is pretty great
No Steelrising to begin with? easily the easiest soulslike for me
Just wanna say that Wo Long is on PC Game Pass. Also, a 3rd person shooter is not a soulslike no matter what dodge mechanics they put in there, you can't convince me otherwise XD
Nioh 1&2 are two games I can't get into. There are too many systems for it to be fun for me.
Mortal shell is goated omg yeah it's so good
The list seems to contain a "see if you can spot the errors" quiz. Here's the two games that don't belong to this list:
- Thymesia's first boss is a hefty road block, the game mechanics is clunky and the game is so short that it ends before you got the hang of its combat system. This is absolutely not a good entry point for noobs.
- Wo Long's bosses are tough as nails, absolutely unbalanced. Not beginner friendly by any stretch of the imagination.
The rest of the list is ok. *Jedi Fallen Order* would be my recommendation for a first Soulslike. It's the easiest of the list but still very engaging. Elden Ring was my first Soulsborne and is great for noobs who are ok with doing some research online. Demon's Souls can be a good entry point too for some people since the bosses are so easy. The boss runs themselves are sometimes rough but don't demand much skill, only concentration.
I started my journey with sekiro. Now i end up playing all games in this list expect remnant and starwar. And the non mentioned game called code vein. Am currently playing elden ring DLC. And soon gona start my next game Deathbound. Its like am hunting all soul like games ... Credits goes to sekiro 😂😂
the Next Generational Game = Nioh Games compact + open world from fromsoftware. I will wait that day
Hell yeah! We need Nioh 3 😀
tamisha? write down the name dude, I'm having trouble finding it
hahaha it's Thymesia 😉
I’d consider the new God of War games to be a good soul’s like
Sekiro is still one of the best games of any kind that I have ever played.
I'm trying Lords of the fallen 2023, but I'm not really convinced. Great video!
Thank you! Yeah, LOTF is a definition of hit or miss, I think. I liked it a lot, finished the game four or five times and will likely play some more after the update haha
Sekiro is an hell. But a wonderful hell
So basically just the same exact souslike list as everyone else
I don't know, I just made my own
Thymesia needs more recognition. It is the best sekiro like out there. Unless you count lies of p
Entry point for me was Hollow Knight
Wo long runs great on xbox no issues for me and i played on first gen xbox one.
Lords of the fallen! 🤘
I enjoyed Steel Rising.
Lies of P was my first Souls like ..... im gonna argue with everyone that its better than Elden Ring
As a die hard Elden Ring fan, I respect your opinion. Elden Ring imo is one of the best games ever, but it's not for everyone. Regarding Lies of P, it's such a phenomenal game, I really enjoyed it after beating Elden Ring and Sekiro, it was like the mix of these two. The game has Elden Ring's level of amazing cool bosses and art direction, very similar great level progression, build variety, dodging and stance mechanics combined with Sekiro's infamous parry system. Imo Lies of P is on par with Fromsoft games. I would go as far as to say Lies of P has even higher quality than DS3 and Bloodborne, it bests those 2 in some many different ways
Mortal Shell is so mutch fun
i think shorter games are no reason to not play them if the price is fine
Mortal Shell is fun indeed, just not for everyone I guess. I also think we should have more short games!
The newer God Of War should be included. I used to absolutely haaaaaaate this sub genre until God Of War (2018) forced me to learn to play this type of game. Before then, I tried Nioh. Hated it. Never touched it again until after God Of War. Now, Nioh is one of my favorite games. Obviously Nioh 2 is better 😂
Trying Nioh as your first soulslike is ooof 😅
Code Vein is garbage. Mortal Shell is the closest Souls like I’ve played to Dark Souls. Remnant is cool, but not solo. It’s unplayable solo.
I couldn’t get into The Surge or Hellpoint. Though they’re not BAD. They’re just meh IMO. Ask, Nioh 2 is superior to Nioh in every way possible IMO.
im gonna plat these (mortal shell thymesia wo long fallen dynastyasty demon souls remaster lords fallen elden ring ds3 ds2 ds remastered blood borne sekiro)
Odd to make a video full of games you didn’t like!
well, it's not a video about games I liked (I've got plenty of those on the channel though)
Most souls likes to me are boring since they have mediocre world and level design. Only souls likes I’ve played which can match fromsoft in that regard is Hellpoint and Bleak Faith.
Thank you for the video! Although I do noy agree with many of the games listed LOL.
7- Mortal Shell stinks imo, not good at all;
6 - Thymesia I droped too early to say anything;
5 - Remnant is dope! Awesome games. Quite different from the average soulslike, but that's the charm;
4 - Wo Long is a game that I do not hate. I think it is OK. But is not a good entry point by any means imo, because it barely shows the best that genre has to offer. You just go there chasing flags over and over again till you max it and then you fight a boss... the lore is kinda meh, level design nothing to write home about, I don't really remember any music from the game, and even the combat is kinda weird sometimes (far worse than Nioh btw);
3 - Lords of the Fallen is not bad. I dropped it because I felt there were better games releasing at the time, but I plan to revisit one day. The game reminded me a lot of Dark Souls 2 though, which is my least favorite soulsborne;
2 - Fallen Order is pretty good. But I don't get it why call it soulslike, it make as much sense as saying that Hollow Knight is soulslike LOL. That game feels more like a natural evolution of The Force Unleashed than anything else.
1 - I could not argue with any of those 3 recommendations. I would probably say they are the best entry point to the genre for anyone. Lies of P, Sekiro and Nioh are really great, as you said, and I would agree they may not be the ideal entry point to the genre.
in the end, I would say that starting with FromSoftware game is the best thing to do, because they are quite good. They nail many thing that many other souslike don't. After them (and that may take quite a while) I would go to Lies of P, Remnant and Nioh.
I agree with that starting with FS games is a way to go. They have this magic to them others only try to replicate and most fail. Also it's nice to experience all the mechanics in their original form, so to speak 😀 Thanks for checking out the video and sharing your perspective, dude!
Stranger of paradise is the worst game I've played from start to finish. It's dog water in every aspect 😮💨.
Mortal Shell is the most boring soulslike I ever played.
Honestly I hate Demons Souls but I adore all the other from FromSoftware game (except Dark Souls 2, haven’t played it yet) mechanic are terrible and I’m even talking about in the remake so it doesn’t get a pass you just kinda have to guess when the enemy is gonna attack because you won’t dodge until 10 seconds later. Can’t stand Demons Souls I want my inputs to respond to what I put into my controller and the other games do that very well
I will say that I did best Sekiro as my first Soulsborne game though
Darksouls 1 is terrible hated it so much so overrated so slow and clunky literary any other souls game is better haha
Lords of the Fallen is the best soulslike