The bottom unit as top-open-only is the only thing about the packout system that made me go "wtf were they thinking!?" when I was first playing with it in the store.
toughbuilt stacktech is adressing this really quickly. for a line thats only a few months old they already have a cabinet bottom unit set to release this summer
Anyone else find it funny that so many people outside of the US give us Americans crap for not usung the metric system but they all still us 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" drive on all of their tools?
Because they have no other choice on impact wrenches. Metric is better 95% of the time, height is better in imperial so is surfboards and waves, yet wetsuits are in millimetres and volume in litres.
Haha, yeah we love to take the piss. But I use both here in the UK. Sometimes when I measure I use both 😂 I don’t like tape measures that are only metric.
I would buy 1, maybe even 2, the drawer model plz! I have 2 rolling boxes i refuse to use currently. One has boxes of sand paper, one has ??? I have bought drawer units and seen the light, there is no turning back now.
Milwaukee is reading all these comments on their ad videos and they know. I’ll guess we’ll be getting a rolling drawer box from pack out before any other brand. Flex and tough built are really competitive with packout
Water pump pliers. Yep turn the bottom box into a big drawer. Lol, James I still keep the boxes things come in. Latest one is a box starbursts came in!
Your single drawer is a solid idea. We have that same style you've got here in the US, but we also have one that's just a base plate. Using that you can essentially have any packout unit on bottom you want. Now im not sure if we have the 4 drawer or the loaded foam inserts or not. I haven't kept up on it in a year or so, but those are pretty slick. Also i still think you're black with the red accents look way better than our more red ones.
Yes, the bottom needs a one drawer pull out with a shelf, other than larger tools it gets used less as it is harder to get into. Like the 4-drawer option now.
@@mikecrane2782 So is the rolling tool box. I would say about 2" wider for the handle that slides up. The only streamlined option is to custom make yourself dolly wheels. But in my opinion that makes the stack less stable as the corners are no longer fully supported. Also the drawers in a rolling box would not be square inside, or wouldnt be as wide. Because the rolling box wheels do take up internal space. The only way to make for normal drawers would be to increase the total footprint of the box on the sides to let the wheels stick out. My vote is dolly wheels or a collapsible hand truck like the cosco folding hand truck.
I’ve have multiple(3) set ups like yours but instead of the large box with wheels on bottom I opted for the packout dolly, So from bottom to top I have(dolly-2drawer box-3drawer box-crate
Cool and all, but that tape measure/cut kit insert is a joke. Also im pretty sure the area with the permanent marker, is made to hold more markers... The top drawer in my packout holds 4 razor knifes, 2 snap blade knives, a tajima folding pull saw, electrical pliers, needle nose, nippers, 2x flush cut pliers, 4" window scraper, straight razor scraper, 100pk straight blades, 100pk razor blades, 2x 10 packs snap blades, 2x 20 packs 4" scraper blades, jig saw blade assortment (for the saw in drawer 2), multi tool blade assortment (also drawer 2). Plus i know im forgetting things! And thats just drawer 1... Not certain there is room for foam up there! I do like the ratchet sets. But my industry doesnt really need that. My mini husky clamshell 1/4" and 3/8" set has lasted me decades - one 1/2" socket i had to replace and 1 1/4" ratchet that disappeared. Ohh ya, my top drawer also has a handle for sawzall blades, and a sawzall blade assortment (for the hackzall in the bottom of the stack in the 2 drawer box)
I abandoned that ship and got drawers. I highly recommend, its life changing not having to do the waltz with your tool boxes 8x a day! Or was it the tango? Now what to do with these 2 rolling boxes? ROLLING SANDPAPER HOLDER???
The plumber pliers, I call them either water pump pliers or parrot beaks. My dad calls them footprints as he’s got a pair since his apprenticeship made by a company called Footprint, he’s still got them and he’s 80 so these are easily 64+ years old and are still used.
Channel locks here in the USA. Though channel lock is a brand (maybe original?) I prefer mine to have a push button type system for throat adjustment. I have both Irwin and milwaukee brands that i like. I would say i like the irwin better. They were the 1st i saw with that type of design and its more streamlined than milwaukees offering. The handle end of the milwaukee is made to do something too, i forget what for and havent really used it.
All of my power tools are DeWalt and I don't think I even have many Milwaukee hand tools if any. But when it came time to upgrade to a modular toolbox I bought Milwaukee Packout, because it is obviously the best. I have no regrets with going Milwaukee Packout even though it cost more money.
I think that Milwaukee should have a drawer in the bottom one. It would be better for a drawer than the one with the front cover that opens up, but then you need the Milwaukee 2 wheel dolly cart to put it on. I am jealous I would like to have those set in the foam for I do have the drawer system. I have the Red ones but I really like the black ones that they sell to you. Wish they would sell the black version in the US. Good Video
Ridgid came up with a good solution for that, the handle/wheel assembly can be removed from the big box and put on the drawer box. The big box then can be put anywhere in the stack you want.
@@paulhays2171 packout tried to make a collapsible hand truck to solve the issue, but it sucks and failed. They have 4 wheeled dollies for the system, but its 0 box for $100... My father and i each got a rolling box as our first box, early in the packout ecosystem. We were mostly looking to replace our soft rolling husky tool bags that would die every 3-5years with something more robust. The boxes definetly served their purpose. It was also a much better system @ the time than the systainer system festool was using. Much more robust and larger capacity for 18" tools like a 4" floor scraper or good claw hammer. The problem reared its ugly head for me when i got my 4th box. Suddenly it was a box shuffle anytime i wanted a tool. Luckily about the same time, boxes with drawers were showing up @ home depot. I didnt even consider them for a while, figuring it was more plastic junk. Then i finally watched a review and my mind was changed in moments. I went to the store, tested the functionality of the 3 drawer unit, and took it home. My 1st test was to see if my jig saw would fit in there, it did! Most of my cutting tools now reside in a 2 drawer and 3 drawer unit. Only a skil saw is left unboxed, i even tossed a 15ga nailer and franklin stud sensor in 1 of the 2 drawers until i find a cutting tool for that drawer. Im currently working up ideas for my 2nd stack. Its more general use/marking tools. Im thinking a 2 drawer and a 4 drawer, but maybe a 2 drawer and the split size 3 drawer? Decisions, decisions...
In the 2 drawer pack out put in the small dividers in the bottom and the 1/2” foam set on top. Should be easy to pull out the foam set to get tools or parts that you might need to carry with you
Fully agree that the black boxes we get in europe look better than the red ones. Very cool system, just decided to go with Milwaukee as a brand. Got the packout trolley box and a M18 circular saw to start with. the charger + battery set came with a free M12 battery so now i'm wondering which of my tools need to be M18 and which i can go for M12.
There was an offer about 1 year ago that got the 1/2" socket set, 1/4 socket set, and a spanner/screwdriver set, the only one I was missing was the 3/8' set. but now its no longer just a wish.
A big/tall 1 drawer based trolley would be great. No question every time you need something of size it's in that bottom box. Which leads to breaking your back to get to it.
That is some sexy looking organized tools right there! I’d use the little opening for a notepad and some other writing utensils, maybe a knife or pencil sharpener.
Been looking at some stuff lately... Online tools store mentioned "in-box" and "in-case". Not the place I expected an answer to the difference but an answer is an answer. (also yes, the black "European" packout cases look a lot better than the red "American" ones)
I know it's not a drawer, but they do have the "Milwaukee 48228445 PACKOUT Cabinet" which you can pair with the PACKOUT 2-Wheel Trolley Cart and almost gets you what you want. Trolley does seem a little bulkier though than the standard rolling toolbox
I have mixed feelings about the black packout you have in Europe. I like the drawer units that have the traditional Milwaukee logo in white on a red background, but I don't favor the red logo on the black. I do wish they'd give us the option, and I do like your idea about the single drawer trolley.
Are these foam inserts available for generic sets? I already have socket sets that I'm very happy with. I also hope that Milwaukee starts coming out with foam for common power tools (ie. a foam insert for multi-tool, orbital sander, and m12 detail sander).
As someone who is getting close to justifying a stacking toolbox, but isnt quite there yet, I'm waiting to see how stacktech turns out over the summer. Seems they've basically taken every single complaint about packout and said "we can fix that." Drawers, cabinet roller, handtruck with box mounting points, a cart that elevates into a truck bed, shelves to mount boxes properly vs just a giant stack you have to play musical boxes ect. Milwaukee for the last few years has been building their brand on "we're simply better than everyone else" and now flex is bringing pain on the tool front and soon toughbuilt will bring it on the storage front. In the end the winners of competition are always the consumer, but I just can't wait to see how 2024 unfolds for these storage technologies
As someone who bought in long ago. I both hear your woes and am happy with my packout system. I dont think a perfect solution exists, nor can it. My only complaint with the packout system has been my original purchase of my rolling box. I wouldn't recommend anyone get one. I have seen many companies coming out with many convoluted systems with too much fluff. I dont have space in my vehicle for boxes with wingdings and rail mounts. I dont want parts bins hanging off my stack, nor do i want to unwind my power cord from my packout stack each morning... For me, packout has been a godsend. Our crew used to have 3-4 soft rolling husky toolbags and a big ass metal box to put all the tools into and lock up. One that weighed like 300lbs and took 3 dudes to get out of the truck. This is after completley unloading it only to reload after taking out. Then all over again @ the end of the job... Now i can have full access @ my vehicle, i can roll in what i want as i want, i have improved workflow, and i dont have to buy a new soft rolling tool bag every year to keep up with degrading fabric. Im still assembling my packout into its final form. Its going to be 2 tall stacks with a 3rd in reserve @ the shop. Every stack will be drawer units with 1 or 2 boxes on top. I have some open bins to toss on as needed for a catch-all onsite after unstacked. A 15" tool tote to use as a tool catch all daily, and 1 large 1/2 box as a battery box. 1 stack is for measuring, marking, and assembly. 1 stack is for cutting, drilling, and general use. 1 stack is for finishing/cleaning (kept @ the shop until needed) I still have my rolling box waiting to find its future home, it has 4 boxes of sandpaper in it. I also inherited my fathers rolling box, havent even opened it since it became mine. I refuse to work that way any longer. No more box shuffle. All of this stuff stemmed from festool with their systainer system. Its been an evolving thing from that. With the festool stuff it wasnt nearly as noticeable doing the shuffle. Because its only 1 tool per box, its kind of expected already, and not as much of a hassle, because your only going @ the stack 1-2 times per day. Once these box systems became more than just tool boxes for larger standalone tools, things changed. I say you do you! Choose the system you like best. You seem well researched on the ins and outs of modern toolboxology. Im confident you will land on your feet! My favorite standouts for packout have been durability and ease of connecting stacks. My most hated standout of all these systems, is the tool stack shuffle. DONT DANCE WITH YOUR TOOL BOXES, it wont grant a promotion, thats for sure!
It’s really funny I’ve lived in South Florida my whole life and been a mechanic for almost 30 years and I prefer everything metric.. now I do have some SAE stuff only when needed but I try to use metric for absolutely everything just better.
As a joiner all my tools are m18 or m12 and of course packouts best tool boxes ever but the bottom box on wheels yes it’s good but it needs to be one big draw as l have my Circular saw planer and my angle grinder love the sets you have got l have seen one with a claw hammer in as well must buy 😊my wife is going to kill me 😂
Storage is always a compromise between volume and organisation. That setup optimises organisation, however in reality all of those tools would fit in one drawer albeit poorly organised. An in between for example would be using socket rails instead of being placed individually in foam. The problem I had with my pack out setup on the packout trolley was that according to Milwaukee’s own dimensions the drawers for example were only 40% space efficient, and when I need to break it all down and go up a bunch of stairs the setup on its own weighs 40kgs. I’ve gone back to aluminium tool boxes that can stack, and have one fitted with wheels. It’s not as organised as the packout setup but carrying more tools with the extra volume and weight saved, means that when that tool is absolutely needed even though I might have to dig a bit for it at least it’s there. In construction I find one setup works for me in every occasion, if I wind up on a job with no stairs or one with a hoist at least the packout might make a comeback.
Exciting. I concur! Bottom (carrier) box should be a drawer. Also, need the electrical screwdriver. And, for pete's sake, make the socket markers big and colored so they are identified instantly.
Whats the electrical screwdrivers use? I normally see electricians shut off the power and use power tools. Totally agree on large contrasting markings for sockets. And yes, i think this whole chatroom wants a rolling drawer unit! If milwaukee isnt cooking something up i would be suprised. I just dont know if i can wait long enough for it to be part of my kit. Im itching to complete the underpinnings of my 2nd stack and unburden myself from the tool stack shuffle.
@jstpsgthru no I'm wondering what it's use is? As in beyond a multi-bit screw driver? Are you talking about the kind with a kink in it and a bearing? The best leverage I've found with 1/4" bits is an impact gun. I would say it's more than needed for switches and outlets, but nice to have for sure. Totally overkill for cover plates though. Which is why I asked about the kinky screwdriver.
Just looked up the ecx... I dont see a reason to buy it. Klein has 2 interesting options if i were in the market. I currently have a ratcheting multi driver from dewalt and milwaukee competing in my kit. A 13 in one ratcheting driver made to hold longer impact bits (model #32313HD). I only really use the longer bits anymore. Or an 8 in insulated precision screwdriver (model #32584INSR) for the electrically inclined. Both of those sets interest me, no clue on price.
Excellent and professional presentation! Good to see they rebranded Knipex on the cobra pliers. 3 (including 2 mult+bit screwdrivers) will cover all the screwdriver needs, including hex as well. Plierswrench covers most of the bolt and nuts fastening. It's pretty but using multifunctional tools you could shrink it down to 1 maybe 2 drawers for 80% of use. I have 1/4 set from 4-15mm reg/swivel/deep, 3/8 from 13-22mm in two 1/2 depth 1/2 width boxes. Wrench roll, Knipex pliers, Wera screwdrivers with extra 90mm blades. I cannot live without swivel sockets and locking extensions. A tip for keeping drawers from sagging/scrubbing with mechanic tools, cut 3/16 aluminum plate to fit the bottom. Second tip.... the cabinet holds track and circular saws turned sideways. Having lived with only 2 and 3 drawer, am looking forward to the new 4 and mult-size 3 drawer.
I was thinking the same thing with the screw driver insert. That whole drawer basically fits in the tray of my large box, with room for my other stuff of similar size and ubiquitous function. The measuring and cutting insert is a joke. My measuring and cutting is a stack 4-5' tall and still doesnt have a hacksaw, but im no hack! It does have a hackzall though, so ill shut it! I too am happy for more types of drawers! I have lived through doing the box shuffle for about a month or 2 before deciding it was drawers or bust. Im cool with 1-2 boxes on top of the stack @ most. The cabinet i find mostly uninteresting, my track saw has a systainer it fits in great, and my skill saw is unworthy of one as it has too many siblings already (probably 5 in the garage in varying states of decay). I considered it for spray cans and caulk tubes, meh... knowing me it would wind up with bread an chips in there after being tired of crap rolling around in it, maybe some disposable silverware... Ive been happy with everything ive bought from the packout line except the rolling box, that thing was a trap! Though i dont think anyone really knew @ the time it would become one. For me @ the time it was a great replacement to huskies soft rolling tool bags that i had to replace bi-annually. The box still paid for itself, it was just outgrown. I do think anyone would outgrow it though, so i dont recommend it to anyone.
If you would ask me without seeing them, I would probably say that I bet the black pack out to look better, and I would probably choose those over the red just based off what I would think would look better. Like even if I’ve seen the regular red pack out that we have here in America and then you asked me if I wanted a black one I would just say yes blindly. That said I do actually think the red ones are more Attractive. The black ones look kind of cheap for some reason to me. I’m surprised that I’m not jealous. You can have those black ones.
The pliers in that set are much nicer than the ones Milwaukee has been selling in in the US. They're rebranded NWS pliers that are on par with anything from Knipex.
I would like to see Milwaukee products that are available in the rest of the world, available in New Zealand. Sick to death of watching all the new toys being unpacked not available here. But after my $2.5k unnecessary spend on Milwaukee toiols today its probably a good job too. But the new structured tote bag is awesome. Well on par with Veto
Nice hand tool sets but I won't be changing over to Milwaukee tools, I got too much invested into SNAPON, MAC, Cornwell and PROTO, I do have some Milwaukee hand and numerous cordless tools, I'd consider getting the Milwaukee hand truck and stacking the drawers etc on it so you don't have to pull off any boxes stacked on that bottom box to get into it.
Hi There , I think the four draw pack out when its loaded up with tools its too heavy. Its even quite heavy with no tools in it I think it would be a good Idea if the pack out came in sets of two low profile draws, witch also came a handle so you could carry it like a brief case. I keep my tools in the back of a jeep. The four drawer cabinet fits my tools good. When it comes to taking them out of the jeep it's an ordeal. If I could split the four drawers in two and carry two drawers in each hand it would balance the weight and be fast and efficient would not need the trolly with the less than ideal bottom box. I could also have six drawers and just carry the four drawers I need for a particular job and leave one set of two drawers in the jeep. The pack out system does not consider very well what a person can comfortably carry as well as having the ablility to use a trolly which I think is a bit cumbersome to load inn and out of the jeep. What do out think?
1. Half size single drawer packout box, like the ammo box, bit then with drawers. I have found the full width drawer box to big and bulky. Mix and match with smaller width boxes would be nice. And maybe go even smaller, like only a single drawer box of a two box packout box (half height box). And maybe a single drawer box of a 4 box packout drawer box (1/4 height). I would als like to see a two drawer box packout that is slightly higher. I have a new milwaukee square sander. Because of the built in uist collector tibe, it has an odd shape and doesn't fit properly into the drawer. It fit in the ammo box but at an odd angle, which is a waste of storage space. I think that is not good design. Other options I would like to see is a packout shelf wall mount, where the shelf brackets can collapse downward and hold the weight of the packout box, to space space. Currently the shelf brackets ate staytic and eat into inner space. Collapsing the brackets saves space. Lastly I would like to see an XL box in which we can plug in multiple batteries to charge and discharge the batteries, which the batteries connected 18 V 3P, 3S configuration, 13 V 4-5P connected batteries as a solar powerstaion, when the batteries are not in use as tool batteries.
I agree with the bottom box having a pull out drawer. I think that the reason that Milwaukee is not putting out a pull out drawer is it would loose all of its structural integrity because it has to support all the weight of all the boxes that are setting on top. Now if everyone that puts tools in all the the boxes have the foam inserts separating all of those tools, then that would lighten the weight of the boxes then Milwaukee would not have to warranty all of the bottom boxes that fail due to the overloading of the top boxes. This is only my opinion.
Rather the 1/2, 3/8, and 1/4 be SAE and metric. Use both on the daily. Just have all my sockets on pegs in a drawer in my 3-drawer and filled the rest with wrenches and misc items I need
The video is great. The packout inserts are cool until you need to add one extra tool. Then all the foam comes out and all the tools in one drawer. Haha
The bottom unit as top-open-only is the only thing about the packout system that made me go "wtf were they thinking!?" when I was first playing with it in the store.
toughbuilt stacktech is adressing this really quickly. for a line thats only a few months old they already have a cabinet bottom unit set to release this summer
Why does everyone act like packout was the only system with a top opening rolling box....they were ALL like that until recently
@@leejolly6354 exactly. China makes other brands too in the same building lol.
Anyone else find it funny that so many people outside of the US give us Americans crap for not usung the metric system but they all still us 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" drive on all of their tools?
Because they have no other choice on impact wrenches. Metric is better 95% of the time, height is better in imperial so is surfboards and waves, yet wetsuits are in millimetres and volume in litres.
Haha, yeah we love to take the piss. But I use both here in the UK. Sometimes when I measure I use both 😂 I don’t like tape measures that are only metric.
6.35mm, 9.53mm, 12.70mm
@@jasonfreestone9944 metric isn't better, its just different. sometimes i hand an engineer a metric tape on a job. they of course never have one.
@@michaeldavid2320 metric is 100% better. That's why almost every single country has adopted it.
100% agree on the one drawer on the base trolly unit. Enjoyed the vid
Thank you Mattro 🤩
+1; totally agree - having to unstack and restack to get at it is a pain!
Or the front opens like a garage door, or split garage door
I would buy 1, maybe even 2, the drawer model plz! I have 2 rolling boxes i refuse to use currently. One has boxes of sand paper, one has ???
I have bought drawer units and seen the light, there is no turning back now.
One solution is to use the packout dolly and place the packout wall cabinet on the bottom. ua-cam.com/users/shortsAHGWkE357ow?si=DbkdoF2oXaMN_Hhu
I think you nailed it, a bottom drawer would be key.
You’re absolutely right James re bottom trolley unit. Bloody useless when you have multiple boxes on top! Drawers would be a much better solution.
Very Nice all most makes me want to go out and buy a Milwaukee packout set 😀😀 Thanks again
Nearly got you Darran 😂
I'm a huge packout fan and I'll be selling all of it the day the Toughbuilt wheeled bottom drawer unit is released.
Exactly what il be doing. Crazy that milwaukee still hasn't released one after all these years of people asking for it.
I made my own drawer in the rolling cart. ua-cam.com/video/OvnOOOw4Ch4/v-deo.htmlsi=UIThvdo_HDsKGK3g
Milwaukee is reading all these comments on their ad videos and they know. I’ll guess we’ll be getting a rolling drawer box from pack out before any other brand. Flex and tough built are really competitive with packout
I've had one for years. No idea why people think they can't have one.
@@freighter1097you have the drawers on the dolly bottom. It's not the same at all
Great video. Thanks!!
Water pump pliers. Yep turn the bottom box into a big drawer.
Lol, James I still keep the boxes things come in. Latest one is a box starbursts came in!
Your single drawer is a solid idea. We have that same style you've got here in the US, but we also have one that's just a base plate. Using that you can essentially have any packout unit on bottom you want. Now im not sure if we have the 4 drawer or the loaded foam inserts or not. I haven't kept up on it in a year or so, but those are pretty slick. Also i still think you're black with the red accents look way better than our more red ones.
I really like these videos!!
Thank you!
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Yes, the bottom needs a one drawer pull out with a shelf, other than larger tools it gets used less as it is harder to get into. Like the 4-drawer option now.
The best thing hasn't happened yet. A wheeled base unit with drawers....
It has with Ridgid
You could buy a packout dolly
@@clips4you23 have the dolly, but it'a bigger footprint.
@@mikecrane2782 So is the rolling tool box. I would say about 2" wider for the handle that slides up. The only streamlined option is to custom make yourself dolly wheels. But in my opinion that makes the stack less stable as the corners are no longer fully supported.
Also the drawers in a rolling box would not be square inside, or wouldnt be as wide. Because the rolling box wheels do take up internal space. The only way to make for normal drawers would be to increase the total footprint of the box on the sides to let the wheels stick out.
My vote is dolly wheels or a collapsible hand truck like the cosco folding hand truck.
They also have the roll around for mechanic shops
Can't wait to get my hands on these!!
I’ve have multiple(3) set ups like yours but instead of the large box with wheels on bottom I opted for the packout dolly, So from bottom to top I have(dolly-2drawer box-3drawer box-crate
Looks amazing! I hope they make it to the US this summer.
They really are beautiful, yeah I hope you guys get them!
Cool and all, but that tape measure/cut kit insert is a joke. Also im pretty sure the area with the permanent marker, is made to hold more markers...
The top drawer in my packout holds 4 razor knifes, 2 snap blade knives, a tajima folding pull saw, electrical pliers, needle nose, nippers, 2x flush cut pliers, 4" window scraper, straight razor scraper, 100pk straight blades, 100pk razor blades, 2x 10 packs snap blades, 2x 20 packs 4" scraper blades, jig saw blade assortment (for the saw in drawer 2), multi tool blade assortment (also drawer 2). Plus i know im forgetting things! And thats just drawer 1... Not certain there is room for foam up there!
I do like the ratchet sets. But my industry doesnt really need that. My mini husky clamshell 1/4" and 3/8" set has lasted me decades - one 1/2" socket i had to replace and 1 1/4" ratchet that disappeared.
Ohh ya, my top drawer also has a handle for sawzall blades, and a sawzall blade assortment (for the hackzall in the bottom of the stack in the 2 drawer box)
I agree with you and I pray someday that the rollout card has a drawer. I’m so sick of unpacking all my drawers to get to the bottom. Nice show.
I abandoned that ship and got drawers. I highly recommend, its life changing not having to do the waltz with your tool boxes 8x a day!
Or was it the tango? Now what to do with these 2 rolling boxes? ROLLING SANDPAPER HOLDER???
The plumber pliers, I call them either water pump pliers or parrot beaks. My dad calls them footprints as he’s got a pair since his apprenticeship made by a company called Footprint, he’s still got them and he’s 80 so these are easily 64+ years old and are still used.
Since its a cutting and measuring set, I'd probably put a precision square and a small steel rule in the empty space.
Plumbers grips, we call them channel locks here in New Zealand.
Multi grips in Australia
Channel locks here in the USA. Though channel lock is a brand (maybe original?) I prefer mine to have a push button type system for throat adjustment. I have both Irwin and milwaukee brands that i like. I would say i like the irwin better. They were the 1st i saw with that type of design and its more streamlined than milwaukees offering.
The handle end of the milwaukee is made to do something too, i forget what for and havent really used it.
All of my power tools are DeWalt and I don't think I even have many Milwaukee hand tools if any. But when it came time to upgrade to a modular toolbox I bought Milwaukee Packout, because it is obviously the best. I have no regrets with going Milwaukee Packout even though it cost more money.
Damn. Those boxes look great in Black :D I'm jealous.
I think that Milwaukee should have a drawer in the bottom one. It would be better for a drawer than the one with the front cover that opens up, but then you need the Milwaukee 2 wheel dolly cart to put it on.
I am jealous I would like to have those set in the foam for I do have the drawer system. I have the Red ones but I really like the black ones that they sell to you. Wish they would sell the black version in the US.
Good Video
I agree the bottom box is hard to get into. Wish it had a pullout drawer
One of my main reasons for not getting packout
Yet
Ridgid came up with a good solution for that, the handle/wheel assembly can be removed from the big box and put on the drawer box. The big box then can be put anywhere in the stack you want.
@@paulhays2171 packout tried to make a collapsible hand truck to solve the issue, but it sucks and failed. They have 4 wheeled dollies for the system, but its 0 box for $100...
My father and i each got a rolling box as our first box, early in the packout ecosystem. We were mostly looking to replace our soft rolling husky tool bags that would die every 3-5years with something more robust. The boxes definetly served their purpose. It was also a much better system @ the time than the systainer system festool was using. Much more robust and larger capacity for 18" tools like a 4" floor scraper or good claw hammer. The problem reared its ugly head for me when i got my 4th box. Suddenly it was a box shuffle anytime i wanted a tool. Luckily about the same time, boxes with drawers were showing up @ home depot. I didnt even consider them for a while, figuring it was more plastic junk. Then i finally watched a review and my mind was changed in moments. I went to the store, tested the functionality of the 3 drawer unit, and took it home. My 1st test was to see if my jig saw would fit in there, it did! Most of my cutting tools now reside in a 2 drawer and 3 drawer unit. Only a skil saw is left unboxed, i even tossed a 15ga nailer and franklin stud sensor in 1 of the 2 drawers until i find a cutting tool for that drawer.
Im currently working up ideas for my 2nd stack. Its more general use/marking tools. Im thinking a 2 drawer and a 4 drawer, but maybe a 2 drawer and the split size 3 drawer? Decisions, decisions...
A rolling front door large tool opening pack out. I can't wait to replace my top lid open rolling pack out.
I love how he went off at how beautiful the boxes are. It’s because they’re red.😂🎉
In the 2 drawer pack out put in the small dividers in the bottom and the 1/2” foam set on top. Should be easy to pull out the foam set to get tools or parts that you might need to carry with you
1 drawer, great idea for that system!
Fully agree that the black boxes we get in europe look better than the red ones. Very cool system, just decided to go with Milwaukee as a brand. Got the packout trolley box and a M18 circular saw to start with. the charger + battery set came with a free M12 battery so now i'm wondering which of my tools need to be M18 and which i can go for M12.
“Plumbers grips” as a American, I call them Channel Locks
Omg those look good.
Yeah, I am still trying to control my breathing since making this 😂
@MachineryNation what is a spanner?
I think with that big square space in the measuring insert is intended as a storage tray for all your pens, pencils and markers.
I like the red boxes more than the black ones😅
There was an offer about 1 year ago that got the 1/2" socket set, 1/4 socket set, and a spanner/screwdriver set, the only one I was missing was the 3/8' set. but now its no longer just a wish.
Get the Milwaukee garage door big box the have down, it’s awesome! Access from the front
Yes!!! One drawer on bottom would be really nice. Can you put that bottom one on top?
How nice are they :)
New tools 🤩
Would love to buy a few of these sets once they are available in the USA.
A big/tall 1 drawer based trolley would be great. No question every time you need something of size it's in that bottom box. Which leads to breaking your back to get to it.
I’m so jealous of the color way you guys get 😢
That is some sexy looking organized tools right there! I’d use the little opening for a notepad and some other writing utensils, maybe a knife or pencil sharpener.
Been looking at some stuff lately... Online tools store mentioned "in-box" and "in-case".
Not the place I expected an answer to the difference but an answer is an answer.
(also yes, the black "European" packout cases look a lot better than the red "American" ones)
I know it's not a drawer, but they do have the "Milwaukee 48228445 PACKOUT Cabinet" which you can pair with the PACKOUT 2-Wheel Trolley Cart and almost gets you what you want.
Trolley does seem a little bulkier though than the standard rolling toolbox
I have mixed feelings about the black packout you have in Europe. I like the drawer units that have the traditional Milwaukee logo in white on a red background, but I don't favor the red logo on the black. I do wish they'd give us the option, and I do like your idea about the single drawer trolley.
Wow the black looks so much better than the red
Are these foam inserts available for generic sets? I already have socket sets that I'm very happy with. I also hope that Milwaukee starts coming out with foam for common power tools (ie. a foam insert for multi-tool, orbital sander, and m12 detail sander).
I thought we would already of seen power tool inserts by now and also more of their larger tools automatically coming in packout case.
@@MachineryNation I completely agree.
Plummer's grips are called Jaws of Jesus at Finland...and a couple of more names for them...
Jaws of Jesus! I like it!
STG these better be coming to the US ASAP.
Yup we need the drawer base !
As someone who is getting close to justifying a stacking toolbox, but isnt quite there yet, I'm waiting to see how stacktech turns out over the summer. Seems they've basically taken every single complaint about packout and said "we can fix that." Drawers, cabinet roller, handtruck with box mounting points, a cart that elevates into a truck bed, shelves to mount boxes properly vs just a giant stack you have to play musical boxes ect. Milwaukee for the last few years has been building their brand on "we're simply better than everyone else" and now flex is bringing pain on the tool front and soon toughbuilt will bring it on the storage front.
In the end the winners of competition are always the consumer, but I just can't wait to see how 2024 unfolds for these storage technologies
As someone who bought in long ago. I both hear your woes and am happy with my packout system. I dont think a perfect solution exists, nor can it. My only complaint with the packout system has been my original purchase of my rolling box. I wouldn't recommend anyone get one.
I have seen many companies coming out with many convoluted systems with too much fluff. I dont have space in my vehicle for boxes with wingdings and rail mounts. I dont want parts bins hanging off my stack, nor do i want to unwind my power cord from my packout stack each morning...
For me, packout has been a godsend. Our crew used to have 3-4 soft rolling husky toolbags and a big ass metal box to put all the tools into and lock up. One that weighed like 300lbs and took 3 dudes to get out of the truck. This is after completley unloading it only to reload after taking out. Then all over again @ the end of the job... Now i can have full access @ my vehicle, i can roll in what i want as i want, i have improved workflow, and i dont have to buy a new soft rolling tool bag every year to keep up with degrading fabric.
Im still assembling my packout into its final form. Its going to be 2 tall stacks with a 3rd in reserve @ the shop. Every stack will be drawer units with 1 or 2 boxes on top. I have some open bins to toss on as needed for a catch-all onsite after unstacked. A 15" tool tote to use as a tool catch all daily, and 1 large 1/2 box as a battery box. 1 stack is for measuring, marking, and assembly. 1 stack is for cutting, drilling, and general use. 1 stack is for finishing/cleaning (kept @ the shop until needed)
I still have my rolling box waiting to find its future home, it has 4 boxes of sandpaper in it. I also inherited my fathers rolling box, havent even opened it since it became mine. I refuse to work that way any longer. No more box shuffle.
All of this stuff stemmed from festool with their systainer system. Its been an evolving thing from that. With the festool stuff it wasnt nearly as noticeable doing the shuffle. Because its only 1 tool per box, its kind of expected already, and not as much of a hassle, because your only going @ the stack 1-2 times per day. Once these box systems became more than just tool boxes for larger standalone tools, things changed.
I say you do you! Choose the system you like best. You seem well researched on the ins and outs of modern toolboxology. Im confident you will land on your feet!
My favorite standouts for packout have been durability and ease of connecting stacks. My most hated standout of all these systems, is the tool stack shuffle. DONT DANCE WITH YOUR TOOL BOXES, it wont grant a promotion, thats for sure!
We call them channel locks, across the pond here in the US.
It’s really funny I’ve lived in South Florida my whole life and been a mechanic for almost 30 years and I prefer everything metric.. now I do have some SAE stuff only when needed but I try to use metric for absolutely everything just better.
As a joiner all my tools are m18 or m12 and of course packouts best tool boxes ever but the bottom box on wheels yes it’s good but it needs to be one big draw as l have my Circular saw planer and my angle grinder love the sets you have got l have seen one with a claw hammer in as well must buy 😊my wife is going to kill me 😂
You’re 100% right! Yes I really want the claw hammer set, it also comes with the wood chisels 🤩
Would be nice to have a roofing nailer, a siding nailer, or a biscuit jointer in M18.
Agree 100% that the bottom one should be a single drawer. Heck, I’d even be fine with a multi-drawer. Just something to make it accessible.
Storage is always a compromise between volume and organisation. That setup optimises organisation, however in reality all of those tools would fit in one drawer albeit poorly organised. An in between for example would be using socket rails instead of being placed individually in foam.
The problem I had with my pack out setup on the packout trolley was that according to Milwaukee’s own dimensions the drawers for example were only 40% space efficient, and when I need to break it all down and go up a bunch of stairs the setup on its own weighs 40kgs.
I’ve gone back to aluminium tool boxes that can stack, and have one fitted with wheels. It’s not as organised as the packout setup but carrying more tools with the extra volume and weight saved, means that when that tool is absolutely needed even though I might have to dig a bit for it at least it’s there.
In construction I find one setup works for me in every occasion, if I wind up on a job with no stairs or one with a hoist at least the packout might make a comeback.
Channel locks is what we call em brother
Channel lock is a brand name like Kleenex. They’re called slip joint pliers.
Exciting. I concur! Bottom (carrier) box should be a drawer. Also, need the electrical screwdriver. And, for pete's sake, make the socket markers big and colored so they are identified instantly.
Whats the electrical screwdrivers use? I normally see electricians shut off the power and use power tools.
Totally agree on large contrasting markings for sockets.
And yes, i think this whole chatroom wants a rolling drawer unit! If milwaukee isnt cooking something up i would be suprised. I just dont know if i can wait long enough for it to be part of my kit. Im itching to complete the underpinnings of my 2nd stack and unburden myself from the tool stack shuffle.
@@brandonhoffman4712 Screwdriver is the Milwaukee ECX for getting extra leverage on light switches and outlets.
@jstpsgthru no I'm wondering what it's use is? As in beyond a multi-bit screw driver?
Are you talking about the kind with a kink in it and a bearing?
The best leverage I've found with 1/4" bits is an impact gun. I would say it's more than needed for switches and outlets, but nice to have for sure. Totally overkill for cover plates though. Which is why I asked about the kinky screwdriver.
Just looked up the ecx... I dont see a reason to buy it.
Klein has 2 interesting options if i were in the market. I currently have a ratcheting multi driver from dewalt and milwaukee competing in my kit.
A 13 in one ratcheting driver made to hold longer impact bits (model #32313HD). I only really use the longer bits anymore.
Or an 8 in insulated precision screwdriver (model #32584INSR) for the electrically inclined.
Both of those sets interest me, no clue on price.
@@brandonhoffman4712 Good for you.
Excellent and professional presentation!
Good to see they rebranded Knipex on the cobra pliers.
3 (including 2 mult+bit screwdrivers) will cover all the screwdriver needs, including hex as well.
Plierswrench covers most of the bolt and nuts fastening.
It's pretty but using multifunctional tools you could shrink it down to 1 maybe 2 drawers for 80% of use.
I have 1/4 set from 4-15mm reg/swivel/deep, 3/8 from 13-22mm in two 1/2 depth 1/2 width boxes.
Wrench roll, Knipex pliers, Wera screwdrivers with extra 90mm blades.
I cannot live without swivel sockets and locking extensions.
A tip for keeping drawers from sagging/scrubbing with mechanic tools, cut 3/16 aluminum plate to fit the bottom.
Second tip.... the cabinet holds track and circular saws turned sideways.
Having lived with only 2 and 3 drawer, am looking forward to the new 4 and mult-size 3 drawer.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback 👍🏼
Looks more like the NWS maxi type water pump pliers.
I was thinking the same thing with the screw driver insert. That whole drawer basically fits in the tray of my large box, with room for my other stuff of similar size and ubiquitous function.
The measuring and cutting insert is a joke. My measuring and cutting is a stack 4-5' tall and still doesnt have a hacksaw, but im no hack! It does have a hackzall though, so ill shut it!
I too am happy for more types of drawers! I have lived through doing the box shuffle for about a month or 2 before deciding it was drawers or bust. Im cool with 1-2 boxes on top of the stack @ most. The cabinet i find mostly uninteresting, my track saw has a systainer it fits in great, and my skill saw is unworthy of one as it has too many siblings already (probably 5 in the garage in varying states of decay). I considered it for spray cans and caulk tubes, meh... knowing me it would wind up with bread an chips in there after being tired of crap rolling around in it, maybe some disposable silverware...
Ive been happy with everything ive bought from the packout line except the rolling box, that thing was a trap! Though i dont think anyone really knew @ the time it would become one. For me @ the time it was a great replacement to huskies soft rolling tool bags that i had to replace bi-annually. The box still paid for itself, it was just outgrown. I do think anyone would outgrow it though, so i dont recommend it to anyone.
5:38 : I would put drawing markers in it for metal
As someone in America. I need these. I also need the black packouts
When are these coming to the US?
Very nice 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Here in New Zealand you need to be top earner to afford these tool boxes, just too expensive
Or, Packout could design the packout plate on a dolly (trolly) frame, where you could put any packout box on the bottom securely and roll it around.
Do you not have the dolly attachment in the UK? Drawers go on dollys.
Yeah we do, in a workshop environment they are great, but not so good across terrain and we are a bit rough here 😂
Calipers in the cutting and measuring space?
I also want the option of bins to suit the drawers
Use a Milwaukee packout cabinet for the bottom box on the packout stack, the one with a front opening door
Great idea. But that does not have the integral wheels and handle
With all these new Milwaukee tools turning up, you should probably stock up on blueroll!😂
If you would ask me without seeing them, I would probably say that I bet the black pack out to look better, and I would probably choose those over the red just based off what I would think would look better. Like even if I’ve seen the regular red pack out that we have here in America and then you asked me if I wanted a black one I would just say yes blindly. That said I do actually think the red ones are more Attractive. The black ones look kind of cheap for some reason to me. I’m surprised that I’m not jealous. You can have those black ones.
I sure like the black color better than the red we have in the U.S.
The pliers in that set are much nicer than the ones Milwaukee has been selling in in the US. They're rebranded NWS pliers that are on par with anything from Knipex.
I would like to see Milwaukee products that are available in the rest of the world, available in New Zealand. Sick to death of watching all the new toys being unpacked not available here. But after my $2.5k unnecessary spend on Milwaukee toiols today its probably a good job too. But the new structured tote bag is awesome. Well on par with Veto
You most definitely need the Milwaukee beer opener in the empty space.
Nice hand tool sets but I won't be changing over to Milwaukee tools, I got too much invested into SNAPON, MAC, Cornwell and PROTO, I do have some Milwaukee hand and numerous cordless tools, I'd consider getting the Milwaukee hand truck and stacking the drawers etc on it so you don't have to pull off any boxes stacked on that bottom box to get into it.
M18 vacuum on the base unit
Hi There ,
I think the four draw pack out when its loaded up with tools its too heavy. Its even quite heavy with no tools in it
I think it would be a good Idea if the pack out came in sets of two low profile draws, witch also came a handle so you could carry it like a brief case.
I keep my tools in the back of a jeep. The four drawer cabinet fits my tools good. When it comes to taking them out of the jeep it's an ordeal.
If I could split the four drawers in two and carry two drawers in each hand it would balance the weight and be fast and efficient would not need the trolly
with the less than ideal bottom box.
I could also have six drawers and just carry the four drawers I need for a particular job and leave one set of two drawers in the jeep.
The pack out system does not consider very well what a person can comfortably carry as well as having the ablility to use a trolly which I think is a bit cumbersome
to load inn and out of the jeep.
What do out think?
Where do you get the black boxes. They don't sell them Canada
1. Half size single drawer packout box, like the ammo box, bit then with drawers. I have found the full width drawer box to big and bulky. Mix and match with smaller width boxes would be nice. And maybe go even smaller, like only a single drawer box of a two box packout box (half height box). And maybe a single drawer box of a 4 box packout drawer box (1/4 height).
I would als like to see a two drawer box packout that is slightly higher. I have a new milwaukee square sander. Because of the built in uist collector tibe, it has an odd shape and doesn't fit properly into the drawer. It fit in the ammo box but at an odd angle, which is a waste of storage space. I think that is not good design.
Other options I would like to see is a packout shelf wall mount, where the shelf brackets can collapse downward and hold the weight of the packout box, to space space. Currently the shelf brackets ate staytic and eat into inner space. Collapsing the brackets saves space.
Lastly I would like to see an XL box in which we can plug in multiple batteries to charge and discharge the batteries, which the batteries connected 18 V 3P, 3S configuration, 13 V 4-5P connected batteries as a solar powerstaion, when the batteries are not in use as tool batteries.
We call the plumbers grips channel locks
I agree with the bottom box having a pull out drawer. I think that the reason that Milwaukee is not putting out a pull out drawer is it would loose all of its structural integrity because it has to support all the weight of all the boxes that are setting on top. Now if everyone that puts tools in all the the boxes have the foam inserts separating all of those tools, then that would lighten the weight of the boxes then Milwaukee would not have to warranty all of the bottom boxes that fail due to the overloading of the top boxes. This is only my opinion.
Why are these nowhere on the website?!! Not on the US or the UK site and you are the only one on UA-cam 🤣
Link below this video. Yes I am the only one on UA-cam 😂
Can you get these in Australia or do you have links to uk sites
Maybe the magnetic tray can fit on that empty space
I would prefer the red ones. Love the pack out stuff but they are so expensive, Milwaukee are the only one that do stackers with draws
These are epic,where can you buy them from??
what are the part numbers !
i NEED THIS IN MY LIFE
Are these available to buy yet ? Can find them on the UK Milwaukee website
Click the link in the video description 👍🏼
@@MachineryNation Thanks! Will Hayes Machinery have them in stock at some point ? Cheers
@@hnnhgaming I sold off Hayes Machinery last year so we are no longer a dealer for any tools or machinery.
Could be a packout organiser tray
Rather the 1/2, 3/8, and 1/4 be SAE and metric. Use both on the daily. Just have all my sockets on pegs in a drawer in my 3-drawer and filled the rest with wrenches and misc items I need
I like our red
I want these boxes in the US - Back in Black
There si available the SAE version?
2 drawer base rollout
The video is great. The packout inserts are cool until you need to add one extra tool. Then all the foam comes out and all the tools in one drawer. Haha
Wearing the Milwaukee themed red and black shirt 😉
Signature shirt 😂😉
Are these coming to the US??
they are already on market. they were on september mil exhibition
Are these available in the USA? If so do you have a link?
Not yet I don’t think.