I have several thousand kilometres with the Metzler tourance next 2 on my Indian FTR 1200, 150 18 rear and 120 19 front. Including 2 days on track at Phillip Island. I can report excellent performance both in the dry and wet conditions.
Hi Jeremy, good morning, Philip Island… lucky you to be able to spend time on probably one of the most famous circuits. Thank you for sharing your experience. Welcome to the channel Best wishes Carl
WOW! You called it on the 1300 with the taillights. Your content is OUSTANDING. You description of a neutral tire is spot on. I've been trying to decide on tires for a month. You have confirmed my decision to get the Metzler Tourance Next 2. Fitting them on 2022 R 1250 GS 40th Anniversary. I have the A41 now. The fronts wore out first around 6,000 miles. Now at 12000 miles they need replacement. The rears have about 30% wear remaining before the wear bar. I'm 175 LBS ride on the aggressive side. about 140,000 street miles of ridding. 120,000 on race bikes 20,000 on the last 2 GS's. Fantastic Content and extremely well-articulated!
Hi Flash, thank you for your kind words. You probably have more experience with tyres than I do looking at your mileage, but I think you might just like the TN2. They roll very nicely into the corners without that tipping in fast feeling that you can get on more fast street focused tyres, I really like the TN2. The other tyre I'm looking forward to trying is the new Scorpion Trail 3, which has been my favourite tyre for several years. Your going to notice as big difference compared to the A41....let me know how you get on and which tyres you finally choose. Kindest Regards Carl
Hello Carl, always love to see your technical vids, but had to laugh at you describing your wife as part of a test weight. (pillion) Made my day. Thanks.
Had these on my GS since Apr 2022, have done 10,000 miles on them, and they still have a great deal of life left in them, particularly the rear, and they are not squared off (given the profile,and change in compound between the centre and sidewall), which can sometime accelerate squaring off, but excellent tyres
@@mickd802there are a myriad reasons, Suspension setup, Weight Distribution etc I had the same issue with Anakee’s, some friends loved em, I couldn’t get anything out of them
Hi Carl it’s Jack from Australia i recently upgraded my 2005 gs1200 to a good deal on a 2022 run out deal on the 1250 Rallye. Wow what an awesome bike, however the noise coming up through the front is so loud and very annoying. Thanks for your comments re tyres it was comforting to you mention how quiet they are. On my old GS i ended up using pirelli scorpion trail 2 which I found really good with minimal front end noise. I really appreciate your content and expertise with regards to maintenance advice, spot on ! Love your channel, cheers from Jack
Hello Jack and welcome to the channel, thank you for your feedback 👍 and congratulations on your new GS Rallye, the ST2 is my favourite tyre from the last few years too, but the new TN2 are very similar and so far I’m really happy with them. Have fun learning your new GS I guess it’s winter time for you now? Best wishes Carl
Hi Steve, let me know what you think once you’ve got a few miles on them. For me it’s been quite a big improvement and I’m really happy with them. Have a great weekend Carl
Cheers, Carl. I'm about to order a set of the Metzeler Tourance Next 2 tires. Curious did you use the V or W rated tires? Do you know if it makes a difference with the R1250 GS bikes? Thanks, as always!
Hi Nick “V” rating is what you need for the GS, “W” are for tyres rated for higher speed (up to 168mph), to achieve this the side wall construction is different and much stronger, which will give you a harder / firmer ride quality. I would recommend staying with V rated. Carl
Had two sets of the Next on my 1200 Super Tenere. Dumped the OEM Anakees for the Next2 on my 1250GSA for the reasons you say : felt like they « fell » in the corners past a certain point. Also, I never felt confident in cold and / or wet weather (front feeling like not precise, and rear like slipping all the time). None of these with the Next2 : precise, very neutral as you say, huge grip both on dry or wet conditions, and very good on dirty roads. My wife found the Metzeler much more confortable too. The tires are now nearly 11k km and still have some left !
Hello Michio and welcome to the channel, thank you for sharing your experience with tyres and especially the Metzeler TN2, which i am happy to hear the good news. 11K kM thats good mileage too. Best Wishes Carl
I have the Tourance Next 2 fitted om my 1200 GS for about 8000 km now. I love them; very stable, good in the rain and they don’t wear as fast like the Bridgestone A41 I had before, especially the front tyre. The front tyre showed strange wear pattern, I don’t see that on the Metzelers 😊.
I have tourance next on my Cb500x, sometimes I ride with passanger without lugages and after 6k km they wear like 50%.. They are awesome on twisties and on rain but they wear so fast... Next set will be Road6.
Hi Tommy thank you for sharing your experience with the Tourance, I presume your talking about the Next II ? Because their is quite a difference between the first version and the current Next 2 version. The Road 6 is another great tyre so hopefully that will perform better for you. Hope your enjoying the current great weather 👍 Best wishes Carl
6:40 I dropped my wheels/tires off at a shop when they were very busy. They said they'd get the tires the next day since they would be closing in an hour. I said okay, at least they weren't overpromising. I drove to a gas station right after, and after I gassed up my car and bought a drink, the shop called to say my tires were done!
En mi gsa 2017 llevo 5 juegos de la next1, ahora llevo 3000 kms con la next2, para mi la mejor rueda para mi gs y mi estilo de conducción. El terelever necesita que confíes en la rueda, no es como en otras suspensiones que sientes más la carretera, la next2 es un plus de confianza. Gracias por este video, un saludo desde el sur de España
Hey Karl! Tolles Video. Bin mit dem Reifen jetzt knapp 2000km auf meiner S@S gefahren. Top Reifen soweit! Laufgeräusch habe ich doch ein deutliches (aber für nicht störend) am Vorderrad bei Geradeausfahrt. Bin schon gespannt auf dein Abschluss Fazit! Beste Grüße aus Ö. Simon
Hi Carl. These tyres came fitted to my new GS. I rode it in wet conditions at the weekend(first time in the wet) and I found them really bad. They just didn't seem to hold their grip like the Pilot 6's. I'm not ditching them because they are good in the dry, but when riding in the wet I'll be very very cautious.
Hi Slip, that’s very strange mine have been brilliant in the wet 💦 I went on 2500 mile tour up to Norway with a lot of rain and even some ice, and they were great. I presume your tyre pressures are correct ☑️ I know if they are over inflated even by a couple of psi they feel different. I generally use 34 front 42 rear for sole riding. Carl 🙋🏻♂️
Hi good morning, thank you 🙏, I’ve not made the second part yet, probably next summer. They have been great tyres, really like them highly recommended. Best wishes and thank you for leaving a comment 👍🙋🏻♂️ Carl
@justthewayitis I belive you... They will be my next tires under r 1250 gs rallye after the karoo street that are not bad but for sure not quite. Thankyou Carl.
Great video Carl, I'm close to changing the tyres on my 1250GS, currently Road 6 which have been fantastic but I'm planning a bit of mild off road in 2024 so I'm considering the Continental TA3's or the Metzeler Tourance Next 2's. I'd be interested in an update now that you've run to Next 2's for a while. Thanks for very informative video's. (I fitted Weiser Technik indicators which are amazing).
Hi Tony, happy new year, Both the TA3 and NT2 are road tyres with slight gravel track / lane capability . if you are really planning on some off-road time while still keeping a road compliant tyre I would fit the Anakee Adventure. Yes I’m really happy with the NT2 it’s a great tyre for my type of riding 🙋🏻♂️Carl
Bonjour Carl, j'ai utilisé les tourance next 1 sur une gs de 2008, excellent pneus. Sur la GSA1250 j'ai maintenant les TKC 70 et ils sont très bien, jamais pris en défaut et l'usure est meilleure que sur les metzeler (avec mon utilisation). Je reviendrai peut être plus tard vers les tourance, j'attends ton essai plus longue durée ✌✌
Hi, lean angle and the ability to Feel more from the tyres especially at the front. Both AA and NT2 are very good tyres, if you need off-road capabilities go for the Anakee, if you don't then the Metzeler is the one to choose Best wishes Carl
Continental Trail Attack 3 V rated, completely rock solid wet or dry, grip as well as any other 'trail' tyres. The bonus is they do more miles than any of the other tyres because they have deeper tread
All of my friends in our local bike club that have a GS or GSA run the Conti -TA3 tyre....So Colin i guess that is a tyre i will have to try at some point. Best Wishes Carl
Probably very well as they use the same size tyre as the GS. The NT2 would really be a 90% road application, so just bear that in mind. Best wishes and have fun on your PA 👍
Carl...another first rate report. The Tourance used to be my go to post oem tyre choice . It seems that the Next 2s will be following my Road 6s. Only 30kgs in the top box? Another good reason to perform brake maintenance at home is to avoid paying dealers for new pads at penal rates. All the best from Hesse (south).
Hi Nick, thank you 🙏, I was really tempted by the Road 6 as so many owners report good things, especially as the 6 version has full Silica compounds now on that rear on the side / edge. Which should warm up quicker than the 5 which has a different compound. Maybe next set I will try them. Speak soon Carl
Really? They come standard on the triumph scrambler 1200 and other owners say how bad they are off road. I haven't fallen on mine, yet, but they feel sketchy off road.
@bobjohnson1633 not sure where your comment is addressed, but these tyres are 90/10 and so predominantly road tyres. In my experience, they work perfectly well on gravel roads in the dry.
Carl, eagerly waiting for long term update on tires. I am up for tire change now. Yes, Michelin Road 6 is no brainer, but I am etching to try TN2. I have had great experience with Metzeler tires in past. When can I expect the long term or mid term review of TN2s now?
Hi Amey, the long term review want be to much later in year probably at the end of the season. Both tyres you highlighted are extremely good but I have really enjoyed the TN2 in terms of grip and performance. If I was going to change tyres today it would be between the two you have mentioned and the Pirelli scorpion trail 3 which has only recently been launched. If your riding is 100% road focused then all 3 options should be high on your list, but if you do occasionally ride on gravel or hard pact dirt roads then for me it’s between the NT2 & ST3. Hope this helps you Kind regards Carl
I've been thinking about doing a tire upgrade. These sound like a great tire to go with. Might as well have my calipers changed over to Brembo's while I'm at it.
Hi Correy, the calliper swop is definitely worth it and so far I’m really happy with the tyres. I’ll report back once I’ve got a couple of thousand miles on them and once I can really see what they are like in summer and in the rain. Have a good week Kindest regards Carl
I wish I could hear the Anakee Adventures. All I hear is wind noise. I guess that’s the lot for a 6’4” bloke I have never even considered Metzeler. Good to know they are good. I think I will go with Pirelli scorpion Traill II or STRs next time
Yes wind buffering is a problem for taller riders, no easy fix I’m afraid. The next 2 are currently performing brilliantly but the ST2 are also very good 👍
Got Metzlers tourance next 2 on my GS. I also did and brake and disc change. Took the bike out after bleeding the brakes. And totally agree how quite they are. Haven't had a chance to test them properly yet. Do you have a video on how to clean the abs sensor? Debbie
Hi Michael 🙋🏻♂️, I’ve been testing it for a few weeks and I’m currently making the installation video. Basically it reactivates the rear tail light and it’s a major improvement when the light level outside reduces in the evening and at night. Weiser have been testing it on some customer bikes too and it does not throw any fault codes into the system. Install is really easy. More to come in a week once I’m done Carl
Hi Carl Thank you for your quick response I already got your discount code, but in Germany it is difficult with EC certification for LED turn signals. The solution you announced is very interesting, let's see
Hi Jon and welcome to the channel, glad to hear the TN2 worked well on your lovely Tiger. Thank you for sharing so other owners can hear about your good experiences. Best wishes Carl
Hi GPZ, ( I remember them well ) yes 45 degrees is more than fine but the reason I changed is that once you get beyond this you cannot feel a lot , now I’m running the NT2 foot peg scrapping at 50 is quite a nice change as you can feel what’s going on at the front. Yes I appreciate that not everyone wants this ability from a tyre on a GS but coming from sports bikes and importantly good feeling tyres it’s a nice improvement. Of course this is not what most GS want but the difference is really noticeable especially for those of us that started way back in the 80/90s with no electronics aids. I remember the GPZ900 very fondly 🙋🏻♂️. The STR is a great tyre and I’m sure you will have fun with them. Thank you for sharing 👍 Kind regards Carl
Amazing job with your videos, thanks a lot!! Could you do an in-depth review now regarding the tires comparison between Michelin Anakee Adventure and Metzeler Tourance Next 2? I just got my new R 1300GS and for some reason I got the Michelin Anakee Adventure ones. I will speak to my dealer to understand why, but I'm more road than off-road, and 90/10 classification for the Metzeler Tourance Next 2 suits my riding more best, at least on paper. What are your thoughts?. Thanks again!!
Hello Ivan, Good morning. The AA is a good tyre for its intended purpose for owners to have the opportunity to explore a little off road. It’s still a good tyre on road just not as capable as the TN2, which has the advantage in terms of grip and feel in the dry and with less noise. You could change them or do as I did as use them for a year and then change, so not to waste a set of tyres. Best wishes Carl
Thank you for that informative video. I have a question. What is the main differences between Tourance and Tourance Next 2. What do I sacrifice if I switch to Tourance Next 2 from Tourance and what will I get as plus?
Hello Gokmen, the TN2 is a completely different compound, it’s more Road focused for touring and sports touring than the original Tourance. So you loose a little off-road performance Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you. Sometimes I need to ride on stabilized roads during my vacations. Maybe it is better to keep original Tourance to not to face with unpleasant results. I think it is %20 off road %80 road just like anakee adventure.
As much as I like the knobbly aesthetics of my Anakee Adventures (very macho, for someone who rarely goes off the tarmac), they are rather noisy. They have a strange tendency to grab onto any rut in the road and pull me in.... or maybe it's just me, I dunno. Anyhow the rear has truly started squaring off now at the 20,000km mark and I'll probably continue commuting on them for another 5,000km, so I'm pretty happy with their longevity. But after that, I might give these Tourance Next 2s a try. Quiet eh? Looking forward to it!
У вас на Ducati Multistrada стояли Pirelli Skorpion Trail 2 и по рисунку протектора они очень похожи на Metzeler Tourance Next 2:. А как они в сравнении друг с другом на асфальте и на грунтовых дорогах?
Hello, its a good question you ask, but without comparing them "back to back" on the same bike its difficult to say. The Tourance Next 2 I currently have on the GS are really great and offer a big improvement in performance and feel over the Anakee Adventure tyres, but the ST2 tyre is still possibly my favourite tyre and I hope to fit them next and try them. Yes the tread pattern and compounds are very similar, but i think the profile / shape is slightly different. Best Wishes Carl
Très bonne revue Carl, merci beaucoup. J'ai cependant un commentaire, bienveillant je tiens à le préciser, pensez-vous vraiment que les Metzeler 90% 10% se comportent différemment que des 100% sur du gravel sec ou une piste sèche et très facile ? Je ne pense pas. Personnellement j'ai essayé les Michelin d'origine sur ma 1250 GS et maintenant les road 6 toujours de chez Michelin ( 6000 km avec les anakee et 9000 km avec les road 6 sur route, voie rapide, autoroute et chemins vraiment simples et toujours sur le sec) et je ne constate pas de différence notable entre ces deux montes. Ce qui me semble normal en fait. Encore une fois merci beaucoup pour votre revue.
very informative video once again just 1 question have you every greased the splines on the driveshaft bmw do not do this on the service so I attempted to do mine its a 21 plate with 5000 miles and the shaft has seized in so booked into bmw under warranty. cheers
Hi Bob, the work should be done under the current warranty recall notification (see other video) and they will test the shaft and system, any issues they will install new parts. I hope they sort it quickly for you Regards Carl Oh yes, i will make a video on this later in the year.
When can we expect the long time review of these tires? I’m trying to decide between metzeller tourance next 2 and dunlop mutant (mutant I’ve had before on my GSA and they were brilliant in all conditions).
Hi Daniel, not for a while I’m afraid as still have a season in them to go. Both of your tyre options are great. Perhaps you can find some more owners experience on your local forums. Have a great weekend Carl
@@justthewayitis Hi Carl, thanks and looking forward to your next video, great job by the way, on production and quality of the content. Quick one…How are the Tourance Next 2 as you add miles? Any change in traction on dry or wet?
Hi Daniel, yes they have been really good I’m very pleased with them especially with the almost zero tyre noise. Grip is enough for foot peg scrapping while still leaving a very small strip on the edges on the front tyre. I would love to compare them to the Scorpion Trail 3 tyre. Best wishes Carl
I have the next (1) on my KTM 1090. They are getting squared off after 8000 km of straight Dutch roads. I am now looking for new tires. Pirelli trail II/ Pirelli GT or these Metzeler next 2. Looking forward to your conclusions. Thanks.
Hi Jan, the GT2 is lovely especially in the rain and good mileage, better than the ST2. How the TN2 compares we will have to wait and see. Best wishes Carl
a data point regarding the spoke tension topic: I have just picked up my older k50 from the BMW dealership in germany after a regular (small) service and on the service checklist there is an item "spoke tension - check and adjust (in necessary)" and it has been ticked! without me requesting it explicitly
That's great to hear, thankyou for sharing, it would seem that some of us have better dealerships than others, but its good to hear they have checked yours. Thankyou for taking the time to leave a message Kindest Regards Carl
2007GS in Thailand. Tried to get the Metzeler tyres, IMPOSSIBLE, no stock...so had to buy the same Pirreli Scorpion Trail 2, but I decided to up the sizes to 120 and 170 from 110 and 150. The bike feels very different, "falls" into curves. I have to ride differently now. Not sure it is good or bad, time will tell...
Hi Christian, sorry to hear you couldn’t get the tyres you wanted but it sounds like you found a solution 👍 let me and the other channel viewers know how you get on with them, I’m sure lots will be interested. Best wishes Carl
Hi Sisco, yes thank you, UA-cam is aware there is a problem on this video and are trying to fix it. I am not sure how long it will take them. Thank you for watching 🙏👍 Best wishes Carl
Hi Carl, always sharp technical info! Well my friend you are putting a doubt in my mind…will my next tires be Michelin road 6 or these Metzeler tourance on my GS 1250? Thank you very much! 😉🏍 Marc, Quebec, Canada 🇨🇦
Good day Carl, 2 questions: Did you send me yesterday a link to click on because I won a prize from you…or is it a hack? I did not click it. Question 2: I have 6000 km on my GS and never use it in rain or offroad. Do I absolutely have to clean the brake calipers? ( I am not a mechanic…I am a retired teacher. Thank you again. Surely I can have answers from my dealer 💸 but I prefer your opinion. 🏍😉
Hi Marc, Question 1. No not from me and I have now removed all of them, someone was trying to hijack and redirect subscribers that had left comments. I have reported them to UA-cam and banned them from the channel. Sorry about that, sometimes this sort of nonsense does happen ☹️ Question 2: if you have owned your bike from new and you have been careful using cleaning products NO you don’t really need to do this at 6000 km. It also depends on how you ride, if it’s mainly slow steady riding or you do lots of city riding then the pads do eventually become glazed and the efficiency decreases, in which case cleaning them and the pads will help return them to maximum performance. I would say at 12,000km or at the latest every 2 years depending on your mileage it should be done. I do this at the end of every season but I ride fairly quickly and I’m heavy on my front brakes. Hope this helps Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Boy would it be interesting to learn with you and do some maintenance on my bike…but unfortunately a large pond is separating us both! 🥹
Hi Ben, good morning So when are we going to the Ring then 😉. That is a v quick lap Thank you for sharing this is what I was hoping to find with these tyres as the weather warms up. Best wishes Carl
My 8'15" lap is on UA-cam on a 2012 Fireblade if you'd like to see it. The 8'30" lap was not done by me however it is easily possible and I might have a go in July if you'd care to join me. The picture in my avatar is me on the KTM and Neevesey following on his Gixxer longtermer exiting the karussell 👍 If you want the link to the 8'15" let me know. It's from my mate in an EVO6 following. At the time he was about 15 seconds a lap faster and so could easily sit behind me and make the video
Hello Carl. For some reason at 12:04 in this video the sound cuts out. I have tried watching on my computer and iPhone, both the same. Of course it could be an issue on only my equipment, but wondering if anyone else is experiencing this? Thank you.
What a relief. I know it was fine originally because I have watched this video completely at least twice before this happened. Thank you for looking into the sound issue, the attention to detail in your videos is exceptionally helpful.
Hi, great question, but i would try to find the Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 or the new 3 version. But if that is also not available then definitely the Anakee Adventure. hope that helps, kind regards Carl
Hi there , are you still using these tyres ? I'm looking at changing from road 6's on my KTM which are very good but do fall in to the corners a bit too quickly for my liking so looking for some more neutral . Thanks
Hi Pete, yes, and I’m really enjoying them. They don’t drop into the corners like the road 6, but still give lots of grip and control. The other tyre I might suggest is the new Scorpion Trail 3. Regards Carl
Hello Carl. Just wondering how the new tires are working out for you? I want to change out my Karoo 3's that came with the bike and I'm torn between the metzeler next 2 and the michelin 6. The way you explain your riding style from preveius videos I think we are similar. Are they wearing nice? Smooth and quiet? Rick
Hello Rick, yes the TN2 are performing very well and I am pleased with them. The choice between the two tyres (NT2 & MR6) is a difficult one, if you only ever ride on the road then maybe the R6 but if you want the option (as I do) to be able to explore dry gravel roads then the TN2 would be the better option. But….. I’ve only just heard that the new Scorpion Trail III is due out very soon and the ST2 was my absolute favourite….. so there is a third option for you to consider. I’m about the ask Pirelli if I can have a set to test but don’t know if they would be willing as I’m only recently put the NT2 on which I’m happy with. And… honestly you can’t go wrong with either of these 3 tyres, tyre technology has really moved forward and I would be happy to run any of them. Which bike do you have?
Hi Carl. I have a question. I see that you have the Voigt handlebars riser with offset on your bike.. Do i need some extension for the braking or clutch line or does it fit without any changes ? By the way i saw all your videos and leraned a lot about the s bevore i took my own new 1250gs.. This informations was very helpfull bevore i pick up the bike :) Looking forward for some new videos . Kind Regards from NRW
Hi Melvin Die Halterung direkt ohne Änderungen am Motorrad. I think I adjusted the cable routing a little on brake line, just a little. It's mounts very well super quality from Voigt, Lg Carl, Hessen
Hey Carl, another great video. However, for the re tension of the spokes, do you not have to back off the small grub screw in the centre of the spoke adjustment nipple, before you adjust it?
Hi Mark, looks like you are correct and I have grub screws missing from several spokes. I will remove that section of the video, order more grub screws, and then remake that section of the video later. I'm extremely grateful you mentioned this. Thankyou Carl - this may also explain why these two spokes were loose...
Nice one Carl, not too many missing then. I run Continental Trail Attack 3 on my GSA. Never found a tyre that suits the GSA better. They have great feel, grip and mileage 👍
Hi Drew, Road 6 and TN2 are both great tyres for on-road work, I think that possibly if maximum corning grip is what you are looking for... then the Road 6 is a great choice. Honestly... both Tyres are extremely good and represent the pinnacle of tyre technology for both companies, I doubt you would be disappoint with either choice. Carl
@@justthewayitis cheers Carl. Really appreciate the reply. I'll check out the TN2 but I'm probably going to go for the road 6. Have only recently discovered your channel. I love it. Extremely high quality content. I have subscribed and turned on notifications. You've inspired me to clean my brakes and check the spokes on my GS!
@Just The Way It Is I'm extremely happy for you Carl. Keep up the great content. I'm sure you'll like the triumph as well. Looking forward to your critique...
Quiet, even on a GS? 😅 I never got complete silence from any tire on any of my GS's, but of course, that is due to the wonderful swoosh sound, coming from the front end of any GS. These tires are on my list as well, and i reckon they come close to the OEM Scorpion Trail 2 on my Multistrada V4s. After all, they are, sort of, made by the same manufacturer. 🙂
Not sure yet, really need more time and miles. The ST2 has been my favourite tyre for edge grip... although the GT2 is an overall better tyre for touring. honestly.... some many great tyres to choose from.....
Hi Fahad, the ST2 is my favourite tyre on the Multistrada I’ve not tried it on the GS yet. They are similar in many ways but not having done a direct comparison i can’t say for sure. I am very much enjoying the TN2 they have transformed the way the GS handles Best wishes Carl
I had some Anekee on a previous GSa , and they were awful swapped them for the Tourance 2 which were brilliant, I have got a new gsa with Bridgstone on which I also hate
I've not tried the road 6 myself but it think both tyres are really good on the GS/A, Nick ( see regular comments) has just done 1,600 miles on his new road 6 and very much likes them. Road 6, ST2, TN2, GT2 are all top level tyres. with just some finer aspects splitting them
@@justthewayitis I go on a few camping trips so have to go on some not so great roads and grass, so I think the TN2 are perfect for that and not so sure the road 6 would be.
Hi Sorin, thank you, UA-cam is aware of the audio problem on that video and they are trying to fix it, but it’s going take them a while to sort it out. Your the third person to highlight the problem so thank you 🙏 Kind regards Carl
Hi Craig, everything is good, I’ve been busy on some home house projects that I’ve been promising my wife to do for several years. But now I’m back to content creation and currently working on four new episodes. I might get one of these up this weekend. Riding has been less than normal due to work house projects and terrible weather this summer but these last couple of weeks I’ve been back in the road. How was your summer? Are you still enjoying your bike ? Thank you for asking 🙋🏻♂️ Carl
As an owner of a Tiger 1200 GT Explorer looking for a second set of tires, this video is just what I needed! Thank you, Sir!
Hello 🤙 thank you, glad to hear you found it helpful. I hope to get a Triumph Tiger 1200 on the channel this summer.
Best wishes Carl
I have several thousand kilometres with the Metzler tourance next 2 on my Indian FTR 1200, 150 18 rear and 120 19 front. Including 2 days on track at Phillip Island. I can report excellent performance both in the dry and wet conditions.
Hi Jeremy, good morning, Philip Island… lucky you to be able to spend time on probably one of the most famous circuits. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Welcome to the channel
Best wishes Carl
WOW! You called it on the 1300 with the taillights. Your content is OUSTANDING. You description of a neutral tire is spot on. I've been trying to decide on tires for a month. You have confirmed my decision to get the Metzler Tourance Next 2. Fitting them on 2022 R 1250 GS 40th Anniversary. I have the A41 now. The fronts wore out first around 6,000 miles. Now at 12000 miles they need replacement. The rears have about 30% wear remaining before the wear bar. I'm 175 LBS ride on the aggressive side. about 140,000 street miles of ridding. 120,000 on race bikes 20,000 on the last 2 GS's. Fantastic Content and extremely well-articulated!
Hi Flash, thank you for your kind words. You probably have more experience with tyres than I do looking at your mileage, but I think you might just like the TN2. They roll very nicely into the corners without that tipping in fast feeling that you can get on more fast street focused tyres, I really like the TN2. The other tyre I'm looking forward to trying is the new Scorpion Trail 3, which has been my favourite tyre for several years. Your going to notice as big difference compared to the A41....let me know how you get on and which tyres you finally choose.
Kindest Regards Carl
@@justthewayitis Absolutely will do!
@FlashFlash-tb6vf 👍
One of the best discussions about tire handling and performance! Thank you
Hi Stephen and welcome 🙏
Thank you
Kind regards Carl
Hello Carl, always love to see your technical vids, but had to laugh at you describing your wife as part of a test weight. (pillion) Made my day. Thanks.
Yes, LOL, my wife also commented I could have used different words to describe her help with that test.
best wishes Carl
Waiting for the final results. Good video, lot of good information Carl!
Hi Edward, thank you 🙏 we all learn by sharing and that’s all I try to do.
Have a great weekend ✌️
Had these on my GS since Apr 2022, have done 10,000 miles on them, and they still have a great deal of life left in them, particularly the rear, and they are not squared off (given the profile,and change in compound between the centre and sidewall), which can sometime accelerate squaring off, but excellent tyres
That's great to hear, I now have some good news to look forward to as the mileage goes up.
Thank you
Carl
How on earth do you get 10k when I only manage to get 4 k before they’re toast
On another set on a GS Adventure, and currently on 9372 miles
@@mickd802there are a myriad reasons, Suspension setup, Weight Distribution etc I had the same issue with Anakee’s, some friends loved em, I couldn’t get anything out of them
I enjoyed the Anakee Adventure tyres but they needed heat and warmth to grip, so the move the Metzeler TN2 was for me a great choice
Carl
Hi Carl it’s Jack from Australia i recently upgraded my 2005 gs1200 to a good deal on a 2022 run out deal on the 1250 Rallye. Wow what an awesome bike, however the noise coming up through the front is so loud and very annoying. Thanks for your comments re tyres it was comforting to you mention how quiet they are. On my old GS i ended up using pirelli scorpion trail 2 which I found really good with minimal front end noise. I really appreciate your content and expertise with regards to maintenance advice, spot on ! Love your channel, cheers from Jack
Hello Jack and welcome to the channel, thank you for your feedback 👍 and congratulations on your new GS Rallye, the ST2 is my favourite tyre from the last few years too, but the new TN2 are very similar and so far I’m really happy with them. Have fun learning your new GS I guess it’s winter time for you now?
Best wishes Carl
Excellent video. Just had my Next 2 fitted to my GSA, based on your observations.
Hi Steve, let me know what you think once you’ve got a few miles on them. For me it’s been quite a big improvement and I’m really happy with them.
Have a great weekend
Carl
@jubilado999 - Which tire you had before and how is your experience of Next 2 compared to those you had?
Thanks for the fantastic and in-depth review you have convinced me 😊.. I'll definitely be buying these now ❤..I've subscribed
Thank you 🙏
Excellent information and advice, as always. Cheers, and thanks!
Hi Gordon, thank you for your feedback
Best wishes Carl 🤞
Cheers, Carl. I'm about to order a set of the Metzeler Tourance Next 2 tires. Curious did you use the V or W rated tires? Do you know if it makes a difference with the R1250 GS bikes? Thanks, as always!
Hi Nick “V” rating is what you need for the GS, “W” are for tyres rated for higher speed (up to 168mph), to achieve this the side wall construction is different and much stronger, which will give you a harder / firmer ride quality.
I would recommend staying with V rated. Carl
Congratulations on 10,000 subscribers!! 🎉🎉
Hi Jade, thank you for your wishes and congratulations.
I hope you enjoy the series
Best wishes Carl
Great review. You seem like a fine rider too from those clips. Cheers
Hi SUV , good morning and thank you for your feedback 👍
Best wishes and have a great Sunday. Carl
Had two sets of the Next on my 1200 Super Tenere.
Dumped the OEM Anakees for the Next2 on my 1250GSA for the reasons you say : felt like they « fell » in the corners past a certain point. Also, I never felt confident in cold and / or wet weather (front feeling like not precise, and rear like slipping all the time).
None of these with the Next2 : precise, very neutral as you say, huge grip both on dry or wet conditions, and very good on dirty roads.
My wife found the Metzeler much more confortable too.
The tires are now nearly 11k km and still have some left !
Hello Michio and welcome to the channel, thank you for sharing your experience with tyres and especially the Metzeler TN2, which i am happy to hear the good news. 11K kM thats good mileage too.
Best Wishes Carl
I have the Tourance Next 2 fitted om my 1200 GS for about 8000 km now. I love them; very stable, good in the rain and they don’t wear as fast like the Bridgestone A41 I had before, especially the front tyre. The front tyre showed strange wear pattern, I don’t see that on the Metzelers 😊.
Hi, thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience with the TN2.
Best wishes Carl
I have tourance next on my Cb500x, sometimes I ride with passanger without lugages and after 6k km they wear like 50%.. They are awesome on twisties and on rain but they wear so fast... Next set will be Road6.
Hi Tommy thank you for sharing your experience with the Tourance, I presume your talking about the Next II ?
Because their is quite a difference between the first version and the current Next 2 version.
The Road 6 is another great tyre so hopefully that will perform better for you. Hope your enjoying the current great weather 👍
Best wishes Carl
Brilliant video - so helpful! Very much enjoying your channel!
Hello Chuck, thank you for your feedback, much appreciated
Carl 👍
Love your channel. Keep it up.
Thank you 🙏
Another brilliant video Carl, excellent information 👍
Hi Rick, good evening and thankyou....
6:40 I dropped my wheels/tires off at a shop when they were very busy. They said they'd get the tires the next day since they would be closing in an hour. I said okay, at least they weren't overpromising. I drove to a gas station right after, and after I gassed up my car and bought a drink, the shop called to say my tires were done!
That’s a lovely experience isn’t it 😊
En mi gsa 2017 llevo 5 juegos de la next1, ahora llevo 3000 kms con la next2, para mi la mejor rueda para mi gs y mi estilo de conducción.
El terelever necesita que confíes en la rueda, no es como en otras suspensiones que sientes más la carretera, la next2 es un plus de confianza.
Gracias por este video, un saludo desde el sur de España
Hello Ralph in Spain, thank you for your feedback 🙏, yes I am enjoying the TN2 as well they are great in the corners.
Greetings from Germany
Carl
Great advice again 👍 love your channel - being a GS owner.
Hi Simon, thank you 🙏
Best wishes Carl
Hey Karl! Tolles Video. Bin mit dem Reifen jetzt knapp 2000km auf meiner S@S gefahren. Top Reifen soweit! Laufgeräusch habe ich doch ein deutliches (aber für nicht störend) am Vorderrad bei Geradeausfahrt. Bin schon gespannt auf dein Abschluss Fazit! Beste Grüße aus Ö. Simon
Hallo Simon, vielen Dank für deinen Kommentar. Ich werde mehr berichten über die Reifen später im Jahr, wenn ich mehr gefahren bin. Viele Grüße, Carl
As always, great and informative video. Thanks a lot
Hi Nick, thank you 🙏
Hi Carl. These tyres came fitted to my new GS. I rode it in wet conditions at the weekend(first time in the wet) and I found them really bad. They just didn't seem to hold their grip like the Pilot 6's. I'm not ditching them because they are good in the dry, but when riding in the wet I'll be very very cautious.
Hi Slip, that’s very strange mine have been brilliant in the wet 💦 I went on 2500 mile tour up to Norway with a lot of rain and even some ice, and they were great. I presume your tyre pressures are correct ☑️ I know if they are over inflated even by a couple of psi they feel different. I generally use 34 front 42 rear for sole riding.
Carl 🙋🏻♂️
Love your video. But I do not find the second part of long review of these tires. Did you make it?
Hi good morning, thank you 🙏, I’ve not made the second part yet, probably next summer.
They have been great tyres, really like them highly recommended.
Best wishes and thank you for leaving a comment 👍🙋🏻♂️ Carl
@justthewayitis I belive you... They will be my next tires under r 1250 gs rallye after the karoo street that are not bad but for sure not quite. Thankyou Carl.
You are very welcome 🙏
Have fun with the TN2 tyres. 👍
Great video Carl, I'm close to changing the tyres on my 1250GS, currently Road 6 which have been fantastic but I'm planning a bit of mild off road in 2024 so I'm considering the Continental TA3's or the Metzeler Tourance Next 2's. I'd be interested in an update now that you've run to Next 2's for a while.
Thanks for very informative video's. (I fitted Weiser Technik indicators which are amazing).
Hi Tony, happy new year,
Both the TA3 and NT2 are road tyres with slight gravel track / lane capability . if you are really planning on some off-road time while still keeping a road compliant tyre I would fit the Anakee Adventure.
Yes I’m really happy with the NT2 it’s a great tyre for my type of riding 🙋🏻♂️Carl
Bonjour Carl, j'ai utilisé les tourance next 1 sur une gs de 2008, excellent pneus. Sur la GSA1250 j'ai maintenant les TKC 70 et ils sont très bien, jamais pris en défaut et l'usure est meilleure que sur les metzeler (avec mon utilisation). Je reviendrai peut être plus tard vers les tourance, j'attends ton essai plus longue durée ✌✌
Hello Pascal ✌️
Thank you 🙏
Hi Carl, love your content. Thanks for the informative videos. Can you say why you chose these over the Anakee III's?
Hi, lean angle and the ability to Feel more from the tyres especially at the front.
Both AA and NT2 are very good tyres, if you need off-road capabilities go for the Anakee, if you don't then the Metzeler is the one to choose
Best wishes Carl
Continental Trail Attack 3 V rated, completely rock solid wet or dry, grip as well as any other 'trail' tyres. The bonus is they do more miles than any of the other tyres because they have deeper tread
All of my friends in our local bike club that have a GS or GSA run the Conti -TA3 tyre....So Colin i guess that is a tyre i will have to try at some point.
Best Wishes
Carl
Carl
Can’t find the info on these in the wet. Comment?
It’s for my GSA 2023.
Great reviews. Thanks
The NT2 tyres in the wet are very good. But not as good as the Pirelli GT2 which are simply unbelievably good in the wet.
Carl
great review. I wonder how these would fare on my pan america!
Probably very well as they use the same size tyre as the GS. The NT2 would really be a 90% road application, so just bear that in mind.
Best wishes and have fun on your PA 👍
Carl...another first rate report. The
Tourance used to be my go to post oem tyre choice . It seems that the Next 2s will be following my Road 6s.
Only 30kgs in the top box?
Another good reason to perform brake maintenance at home is to avoid paying dealers for new pads at penal rates.
All the best from Hesse (south).
Hi Nick, thank you 🙏, I was really tempted by the Road 6 as so many owners report good things, especially as the 6 version has full Silica compounds now on that rear on the side / edge. Which should warm up quicker than the 5 which has a different compound.
Maybe next set I will try them.
Speak soon
Carl
Really? They come standard on the triumph scrambler 1200 and other owners say how bad they are off road. I haven't fallen on mine, yet, but they feel sketchy off road.
@bobjohnson1633 not sure where your comment is addressed, but these tyres are 90/10 and so predominantly road tyres. In my experience, they work perfectly well on gravel roads in the dry.
Carl, eagerly waiting for long term update on tires. I am up for tire change now. Yes, Michelin Road 6 is no brainer, but I am etching to try TN2. I have had great experience with Metzeler tires in past. When can I expect the long term or mid term review of TN2s now?
Hi Amey, the long term review want be to much later in year probably at the end of the season. Both tyres you highlighted are extremely good but I have really enjoyed the TN2 in terms of grip and performance.
If I was going to change tyres today it would be between the two you have mentioned and the Pirelli scorpion trail 3 which has only recently been launched.
If your riding is 100% road focused then all 3 options should be high on your list, but if you do occasionally ride on gravel or hard pact dirt roads then for me it’s between the NT2 & ST3.
Hope this helps you
Kind regards Carl
I've been thinking about doing a tire upgrade. These sound like a great tire to go with. Might as well have my calipers changed over to Brembo's while I'm at it.
Hi Correy, the calliper swop is definitely worth it and so far I’m really happy with the tyres. I’ll report back once I’ve got a couple of thousand miles on them and once I can really see what they are like in summer and in the rain.
Have a good week
Kindest regards Carl
I wish I could hear the Anakee Adventures. All I hear is wind noise. I guess that’s the lot for a 6’4” bloke
I have never even considered Metzeler. Good to know they are good.
I think I will go with Pirelli scorpion Traill II or STRs next time
Yes wind buffering is a problem for taller riders, no easy fix I’m afraid. The next 2 are currently performing brilliantly but the ST2 are also very good 👍
Got Metzlers tourance next 2 on my GS. I also did and brake and disc change. Took the bike out after bleeding the brakes. And totally agree how quite they are. Haven't had a chance to test them properly yet.
Do you have a video on how to clean the abs sensor? Debbie
Hi Debbie, I’ll add that to my list of videos to make 👍.
Glad you enjoyed the NT2 tyres they are very good.
Carl
Hello Carl
can you say something about the announcement by Weiser about the integration of the rear light unit
Thanks great video
Michael
Hi Michael 🙋🏻♂️, I’ve been testing it for a few weeks and I’m currently making the installation video. Basically it reactivates the rear tail light and it’s a major improvement when the light level outside reduces in the evening and at night. Weiser have been testing it on some customer bikes too and it does not throw any fault codes into the system. Install is really easy.
More to come in a week once I’m done
Carl
Hi Carl
Thank you for your quick response
I already got your discount code, but
in Germany it is difficult with EC certification for LED turn signals.
The solution you announced is very interesting, let's see
Yes I understand 👍
thanks carl brill info
Thank-you.
i had the T next 2 on my 1200 tiger , very surefooted in torrential rain in spain, and we werent even on the plain
Hi Jon and welcome to the channel, glad to hear the TN2 worked well on your lovely Tiger. Thank you for sharing so other owners can hear about your good experiences.
Best wishes Carl
I’ve hit 45 degrees lean on my 1250GS on Scorpion Rally STR tyres, so any 90/10 tyre should be capable of doing the same easily
Hi GPZ, ( I remember them well ) yes 45 degrees is more than fine but the reason I changed is that once you get beyond this you cannot feel a lot , now I’m running the NT2 foot peg scrapping at 50 is quite a nice change as you can feel what’s going on at the front. Yes I appreciate that not everyone wants this ability from a tyre on a GS but coming from sports bikes and importantly good feeling tyres it’s a nice improvement. Of course this is not what most GS want but the difference is really noticeable especially for those of us that started way back in the 80/90s with no electronics aids. I remember the GPZ900 very fondly 🙋🏻♂️.
The STR is a great tyre and I’m sure you will have fun with them.
Thank you for sharing 👍
Kind regards Carl
Amazing job with your videos, thanks a lot!! Could you do an in-depth review now regarding the tires comparison between Michelin Anakee Adventure and Metzeler Tourance Next 2? I just got my new R 1300GS and for some reason I got the Michelin Anakee Adventure ones. I will speak to my dealer to understand why, but I'm more road than off-road, and 90/10 classification for the Metzeler Tourance Next 2 suits my riding more best, at least on paper. What are your thoughts?. Thanks again!!
Hello Ivan, Good morning. The AA is a good tyre for its intended purpose for owners to have the opportunity to explore a little off road. It’s still a good tyre on road just not as capable as the TN2, which has the advantage in terms of grip and feel in the dry and with less noise.
You could change them or do as I did as use them for a year and then change, so not to waste a set of tyres.
Best wishes Carl
Thank you for that informative video. I have a question. What is the main differences between Tourance and Tourance Next 2. What do I sacrifice if I switch to Tourance Next 2 from Tourance and what will I get as plus?
Hello Gokmen, the TN2 is a completely different compound, it’s more Road focused for touring and sports touring than the original Tourance. So you loose a little off-road performance
Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you. Sometimes I need to ride on stabilized roads during my vacations. Maybe it is better to keep original Tourance to not to face with unpleasant results. I think it is %20 off road %80 road just like anakee adventure.
Got the Metzler karroo street on my Pan America just got them on first impression not so good in slow corners heavy on the front.
Hi Scoot, thank you sharing your experience 👍
Also had them on my 2018 1200 GS but now have Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 in my opinion a far better set of tyres.
Thank you, ST2 is my favourite tyre too 👍, but it was time to try something different for a change. Carl
As much as I like the knobbly aesthetics of my Anakee Adventures (very macho, for someone who rarely goes off the tarmac), they are rather noisy. They have a strange tendency to grab onto any rut in the road and pull me in.... or maybe it's just me, I dunno. Anyhow the rear has truly started squaring off now at the 20,000km mark and I'll probably continue commuting on them for another 5,000km, so I'm pretty happy with their longevity. But after that, I might give these Tourance Next 2s a try. Quiet eh? Looking forward to it!
Hello and welcome to the channel, yes the NT2 are much less noisy, you have done very well with your mileage on the AA. Carl
У вас на Ducati Multistrada стояли Pirelli Skorpion Trail 2 и по рисунку протектора они очень похожи на Metzeler Tourance Next 2:. А как они в сравнении друг с другом на асфальте и на грунтовых дорогах?
Hello, its a good question you ask, but without comparing them "back to back" on the same bike its difficult to say. The Tourance Next 2 I currently have on the GS are really great and offer a big improvement in performance and feel over the Anakee Adventure tyres, but the ST2 tyre is still possibly my favourite tyre and I hope to fit them next and try them.
Yes the tread pattern and compounds are very similar, but i think the profile / shape is slightly different.
Best Wishes
Carl
Très bonne revue Carl, merci beaucoup.
J'ai cependant un commentaire, bienveillant je tiens à le préciser, pensez-vous vraiment que les Metzeler 90%
10% se comportent différemment que des 100% sur du gravel sec ou une piste sèche et très facile ?
Je ne pense pas. Personnellement j'ai essayé les Michelin d'origine sur ma 1250 GS et maintenant les road 6 toujours de chez Michelin ( 6000 km avec les anakee et 9000 km avec les road 6 sur route, voie rapide, autoroute et chemins vraiment simples et toujours sur le sec) et je ne constate pas de différence notable entre ces deux montes. Ce qui me semble normal en fait.
Encore une fois merci beaucoup pour votre revue.
Thank you Stephane
very informative video once again just 1 question have you every greased the splines on the driveshaft bmw do not do this on the service so I attempted to do mine its a 21 plate with 5000 miles and the shaft has seized in so booked into bmw under warranty. cheers
Hi Bob, the work should be done under the current warranty recall notification (see other video) and they will test the shaft and system, any issues they will install new parts.
I hope they sort it quickly for you
Regards Carl
Oh yes, i will make a video on this later in the year.
When can we expect the long time review of these tires?
I’m trying to decide between metzeller tourance next 2 and dunlop mutant (mutant I’ve had before on my GSA and they were brilliant in all conditions).
Hi Daniel, not for a while I’m afraid as still have a season in them to go.
Both of your tyre options are great. Perhaps you can find some more owners experience on your local forums.
Have a great weekend
Carl
@@justthewayitis Hi Carl, thanks and looking forward to your next video, great job by the way, on production and quality of the content.
Quick one…How are the Tourance Next 2 as you add miles? Any change in traction on dry or wet?
Hi Daniel, yes they have been really good I’m very pleased with them especially with the almost zero tyre noise.
Grip is enough for foot peg scrapping while still leaving a very small strip on the edges on the front tyre.
I would love to compare them to the Scorpion Trail 3 tyre.
Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you Carl! 🤘👍
@DanielAtanasovski no problem
Bloody good video!
Thank you Bob 🙏 feedback is always appreciated
Kind regards Carl
Igen en god og interessant video fra Carl.....tak !
Hi Lars,hei god kveld, takk
Carl
Great channel, thanks
Thanks Paul, hope you enjoyed it. Carl
I have the next (1) on my KTM 1090. They are getting squared off after 8000 km of straight Dutch roads. I am now looking for new tires. Pirelli trail II/ Pirelli GT or these Metzeler next 2. Looking forward to your conclusions. Thanks.
Hi Jan, the GT2 is lovely especially in the rain and good mileage, better than the ST2. How the TN2 compares we will have to wait and see.
Best wishes Carl
How do these compare to Karoo street? Is the difference noticeable? Tnx for video
Hello, I’ve not tried the Karoo street tyre but the reports look good if you need off-road capability, and thank you for the feedback 👍
Have you had a change to compare them to the ContiTrailAttack3?
Hello Bruno
No i sadly haven't, but almost all of our local Motorrad club members with GS and GSA's run the CTA3
Carl
After testing these tires i must say they are Very very bad in off-road , but exceptional and amazing on road
Hi Hani, yes they are great on road. Thank you for sharing 👍
Kind regards Carl
a data point regarding the spoke tension topic: I have just picked up my older k50 from the BMW dealership in germany after a regular (small) service and on the service checklist there is an item "spoke tension - check and adjust (in necessary)" and it has been ticked! without me requesting it explicitly
That's great to hear, thankyou for sharing, it would seem that some of us have better dealerships than others, but its good to hear they have checked yours. Thankyou for taking the time to leave a message
Kindest Regards Carl
Same here at Motorrad Center Stockholm. Checking spokes is always done and ticked on the service protocol
Great news ✌️
Wonderful. Thank you.
Hi Alessandro, good afternoon.
Thank you...best Wishes Carl
2007GS in Thailand. Tried to get the Metzeler tyres, IMPOSSIBLE, no stock...so had to buy the same Pirreli Scorpion Trail 2, but I decided to up the sizes to 120 and 170 from 110 and 150. The bike feels very different, "falls" into curves. I have to ride differently now. Not sure it is good or bad, time will tell...
Hi Christian, sorry to hear you couldn’t get the tyres you wanted but it sounds like you found a solution 👍 let me and the other channel viewers know how you get on with them, I’m sure lots will be interested.
Best wishes Carl
Ouch... no audio from 12 minutes onward? Anyway, thanks for the video. 👍
Hi Sisco, yes thank you, UA-cam is aware there is a problem on this video and are trying to fix it. I am not sure how long it will take them.
Thank you for watching 🙏👍
Best wishes Carl
Hi Carl, always sharp technical info! Well my friend you are putting a doubt in my mind…will my next tires be Michelin road 6 or these Metzeler tourance on my GS 1250? Thank you very much! 😉🏍 Marc, Quebec, Canada 🇨🇦
Hi Marc, BOTH are excellent tyres so you cant make a bad choice....
Carl
Good day Carl, 2 questions: Did you send me yesterday a link to click on because I won a prize from you…or is it a hack? I did not click it.
Question 2: I have 6000 km on my GS and never use it in rain or offroad. Do I absolutely have to clean the brake calipers? ( I am not a mechanic…I am a retired teacher. Thank you again.
Surely I can have answers from my dealer 💸 but I prefer your opinion. 🏍😉
Hi Marc,
Question 1. No not from me and I have now removed all of them, someone was trying to hijack and redirect subscribers that had left comments. I have reported them to UA-cam and banned them from the channel.
Sorry about that, sometimes this sort of nonsense does happen ☹️
Question 2: if you have owned your bike from new and you have been careful using cleaning products NO you don’t really need to do this at 6000 km.
It also depends on how you ride, if it’s mainly slow steady riding or you do lots of city riding then the pads do eventually become glazed and the efficiency decreases, in which case cleaning them and the pads will help return them to maximum performance.
I would say at 12,000km or at the latest every 2 years depending on your mileage it should be done.
I do this at the end of every season but I ride fairly quickly and I’m heavy on my front brakes.
Hope this helps
Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Boy would it be interesting to learn with you and do some maintenance on my bike…but unfortunately a large pond is separating us both! 🥹
Thank you Marc, enjoy your biking season ahead, Carl
These tyres are capable of knee down riding on the 1250 GS and will happily lap the Nürburgring at 8'30"
They're awesome 😎
Hi Ben, good morning
So when are we going to the Ring then 😉. That is a v quick lap
Thank you for sharing this is what I was hoping to find with these tyres as the weather warms up.
Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis
@@justthewayitis have you loaded that amazing lap on you tube by any chance
Yes that would be great to watch
My 8'15" lap is on UA-cam on a 2012 Fireblade if you'd like to see it. The 8'30" lap was not done by me however it is easily possible and I might have a go in July if you'd care to join me. The picture in my avatar is me on the KTM and Neevesey following on his Gixxer longtermer exiting the karussell 👍
If you want the link to the 8'15" let me know. It's from my mate in an EVO6 following. At the time he was about 15 seconds a lap faster and so could easily sit behind me and make the video
Hello Carl. For some reason at 12:04 in this video the sound cuts out. I have tried watching on my computer and iPhone, both the same. Of course it could be an issue on only my equipment, but wondering if anyone else is experiencing this? Thank you.
Hi Kathryn, oh ! You are right !!! It wasn’t like that in the beginning, I’ll check and see if I can fix it.
Thank you 🙏 for letting me know
Carl
What a relief. I know it was fine originally because I have watched this video completely at least twice before this happened. Thank you for looking into the sound issue, the attention to detail in your videos is exceptionally helpful.
unfortunately tourance next 2 is not available in my country. if you had to choose as second choice, anakee adventure or battlax AT41?
Hi, great question, but i would try to find the Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 or the new 3 version. But if that is also not available then definitely the Anakee Adventure. hope that helps, kind regards Carl
@@justthewayitis thanks very helpful indeed!!
Your very welcome 👍
Thx Carl!!!
Hi Gary, Thank-you
Hi there , are you still using these tyres ? I'm looking at changing from road 6's on my KTM which are very good but do fall in to the corners a bit too quickly for my liking so looking for some more neutral . Thanks
Hi Pete, yes, and I’m really enjoying them. They don’t drop into the corners like the road 6, but still give lots of grip and control.
The other tyre I might suggest is the new Scorpion Trail 3.
Regards Carl
Thanks , yep I saw the new scorpion too . Will check them both @@justthewayitis
Hello Carl. Just wondering how the new tires are working out for you? I want to change out my Karoo 3's that came with the bike and I'm torn between the metzeler next 2 and the michelin 6. The way you explain your riding style from preveius videos I think we are similar. Are they wearing nice? Smooth and quiet?
Rick
Hello Rick, yes the TN2 are performing very well and I am pleased with them. The choice between the two tyres (NT2 & MR6) is a difficult one, if you only ever ride on the road then maybe the R6 but if you want the option (as I do) to be able to explore dry gravel roads then the TN2 would be the better option.
But…..
I’ve only just heard that the new Scorpion Trail III is due out very soon and the ST2 was my absolute favourite….. so there is a third option for you to consider.
I’m about the ask Pirelli if I can have a set to test but don’t know if they would be willing as I’m only recently put the NT2 on which I’m happy with.
And… honestly you can’t go wrong with either of these 3 tyres, tyre technology has really moved forward and I would be happy to run any of them.
Which bike do you have?
Hi Carl, thx for getting back to me so quick. We actually have the exact same bike and colour.
@@justthewayitis
Nice choice 😉
Do let me know which tyres you go for, and your thoughts on them.
Enjoy your Sunday
Carl
The audio cut out at about 12 mins. FYI
Hi, thank you 🙏 UA-cam is trying to fix this. Carl
I have a new pair of tourance next not the 2 got a decent price
The compound on the TN2 is very different to the original Next. Glad you got a good price 👍
Hi Carl. I have a question. I see that you have the Voigt handlebars riser with offset on your bike.. Do i need some extension for the braking or clutch line or does it fit without any changes ?
By the way i saw all your videos and leraned a lot about the s bevore i took my own new 1250gs.. This informations was very helpfull bevore i pick up the bike :)
Looking forward for some new videos . Kind Regards from NRW
Hi Melvin
Die Halterung direkt ohne Änderungen am Motorrad.
I think I adjusted the cable routing a little on brake line, just a little. It's mounts very well super quality from Voigt,
Lg Carl, Hessen
Halaaaa bravo 👏🏻👏🏻
Grazie 🙏
Hey Carl, another great video. However, for the re tension of the spokes, do you not have to back off the small grub screw in the centre of the spoke adjustment nipple, before you adjust it?
Are yours different ? Mark
Hi Mark, looks like you are correct and I have grub screws missing from several spokes. I will remove that section of the video, order more grub screws, and then remake that section of the video later. I'm extremely grateful you mentioned this. Thankyou Carl - this may also explain why these two spokes were loose...
@@justthewayitis just checked mine Carl and a 2mm Allen key is required. Need to check them all now, just to make sure I don’t have any missing 😞
Thank you for replying, Monday I will order 3 new grub screws. Big thank you to you 👍
Which tyres do you run Mark
Nice one Carl, not too many missing then.
I run Continental Trail Attack 3 on my GSA. Never found a tyre that suits the GSA better. They have great feel, grip and mileage 👍
Lovely tyre but poor milage 5000miles. However I do a lot of fully loaded travel on my GSA so I suppose milage is reasonable
Hi Thomas, yes it sounds low mileage but as you say with a fully loaded bike it seems reasonable for the performance it offers. 👍 Carl
Without any need for off road use. Is the road 6 a better choice?
Hi Drew, Road 6 and TN2 are both great tyres for on-road work, I think that possibly if maximum corning grip is what you are looking for... then the Road 6 is a great choice.
Honestly... both Tyres are extremely good and represent the pinnacle of tyre technology for both companies, I doubt you would be disappoint with either choice.
Carl
@@justthewayitis cheers Carl. Really appreciate the reply. I'll check out the TN2 but I'm probably going to go for the road 6.
Have only recently discovered your channel. I love it. Extremely high quality content. I have subscribed and turned on notifications. You've inspired me to clean my brakes and check the spokes on my GS!
LOL.... thankyou, that made me smile this afternoon. Glad you enjoy the content, have fun cleaning your brakes, Carl
full review, are the metzeler tourance next 2 done???
Nope, still wearing well, probably do a final review in spring or summer
Congratulations on keeping the bmw. Great choice. But i think it would have been a great choice no matter which bike you would have chosen
Hi Miles, welcome to the channel. The decision was over a year ago but it’s working out just great. Very happy with the GS
Best wishes Carl
@Just The Way It Is I'm extremely happy for you Carl. Keep up the great content. I'm sure you'll like the triumph as well. Looking forward to your critique...
I just need triumph to agree to me having one to review 😉
@Just The Way It Is haha I'm sure they will. Never know. You might like it better. Either way I'll be happy for you and support the channel
Thank you 🙏
What about Karoo Street?? Are they better on cold and wet?? I have T Next2 on my GS and they not the best on temperature around zero celsius
I haven’t tried the Karoo street perhaps call Metzeler technical they are great at answering technical questions about working temps
I checked for you, the Karoo street has a higher Silica content which is better in the cold.
Quiet, even on a GS? 😅
I never got complete silence from any tire on any of my GS's, but of course, that is due to the wonderful swoosh sound, coming from the front end of any GS.
These tires are on my list as well, and i reckon they come close to the OEM Scorpion Trail 2 on my Multistrada V4s.
After all, they are, sort of, made by the same manufacturer. 🙂
Precisely .... and like you i think these two tyres are very close ( ST2 / TN2 ) the ST2 being my favourite. I hear a ST3 is due soon..... smile
@@justthewayitis That makes sense. The st2 has been around for quite a few years.
Would you rank the st2 above the tn2?
Not sure yet, really need more time and miles. The ST2 has been my favourite tyre for edge grip... although the GT2 is an overall better tyre for touring. honestly.... some many great tyres to choose from.....
Do u recommended these tyres over the scorpion trill 2 ?
Hi Fahad, the ST2 is my favourite tyre on the Multistrada I’ve not tried it on the GS yet. They are similar in many ways but not having done a direct comparison i can’t say for sure.
I am very much enjoying the TN2 they have transformed the way the GS handles
Best wishes Carl
I had some Anekee on a previous GSa , and they were awful swapped them for the Tourance 2 which were brilliant, I have got a new gsa with Bridgstone on which I also hate
Hi Mat, So i guess its back to TN2 for you soon then ? or will you try something else
Regards Carl
@@justthewayitis Hi Carl , I was thinking of the road 6 but I was really impressed with the TN2 so most likely go with those again.
I've not tried the road 6 myself but it think both tyres are really good on the GS/A, Nick ( see regular comments) has just done 1,600 miles on his new road 6 and very much likes them.
Road 6, ST2, TN2, GT2 are all top level tyres. with just some finer aspects splitting them
@@justthewayitis I go on a few camping trips so have to go on some not so great roads and grass, so I think the TN2 are perfect for that and not so sure the road 6 would be.
Yes I think the TN2 is a nice compromise. Have a great weekend
Carl
Straight line riding they're noisy, into a lean they go quiet, I have them on my GS
Thank you for sharing 👍
Carl, aftem min 12 your Mike is out. No sound
Hi Sorin, thank you, UA-cam is aware of the audio problem on that video and they are trying to fix it, but it’s going take them a while to sort it out. Your the third person to highlight the problem so thank you 🙏
Kind regards Carl
👍👍
🙋🏻♂️
What are your long-term experiences with Metzeler Tourance Next 2
Currently really enjoying them 👍, winter is coming so I’ll know more as the temperature drops.
Follow up video later in the year
Carl
👍
Thank you 🙏
Sorry babe, I am testing these tires for UA-cam. :-)
Lol ….
How's it going Carl? Have you been riding a lot?
Hi Craig, everything is good, I’ve been busy on some home house projects that I’ve been promising my wife to do for several years. But now I’m back to content creation and currently working on four new episodes. I might get one of these up this weekend.
Riding has been less than normal due to work house projects and terrible weather this summer but these last couple of weeks I’ve been back in the road.
How was your summer?
Are you still enjoying your bike ?
Thank you for asking 🙋🏻♂️
Carl
@@justthewayitis Awesome. Can't wait. I'm in Australia so summer is coming. Loving the GS
And?
Well they have been brilliant, touring cold and rainy, hot and dry. Enough grip and feedback to scrape pegs too. Highly recommended 🙋🏻♂️
Carl 🙋🏻♂️