Hi Josh, I’m at awe for the price you paid! These literally between $4-$6 a piece! Totaling at Most $30; Buy wood, and do yourself! I used this setup last season. I made 10 batches like that, and it was nothing but success! Only hiccup, my divider was not tight enough so bees were crossing over and killed the queen. What else I did, I watched M. Palmer several times, and made diagram drawing, which frame goes where and when. Very important! Over all, good luck! You’re on a right path!
I agree that DIY is an option, but not something I was interested in building for this particular resource setup. It's always great to hear from other beekeepers, thanks for the tips! Cheers and happy beeking!
@@handsburyhoneybees893 call it all you want! One brood box uses 6’ of wood; Wood I got 50c a foot, can you do the math? This year my wood is $.75, so one box is $4.5;
Josh, I love using these in my apiary. You can also put a jar feeder over the inner cover and a deep box over them to feed a nuc. These are very similar to queen castles if you plug up two sides which reduces from 4-2 frames to 2-4 frames. BTW, I love your paint jobs!
Good job Josh! Juice is worth the squeeze. I definitely use a lot of nucs and think everyone should have a couple per hive. I’m just not sold on the Michael Palmer idea of resource hives. It seems as though it sacrifices what could be a production hive for one used for resources. Keep up the good work!
Great video. I have watch the Michael Palmer's clip on this same subject but out in the field doing his own queen rearing and brood removal. It was posted 10 years ago I think. Glad to see your in shop look at this system. Thanks 🐝
Michael Palmer used his a mainly brood factory’s . If i remember correctly he pulled 900 frames of brood and added to his production hives or his cell builders . And the bees brood up faster in nuc boxes compared to 8 or10 frames boxes .
Thanks for the video! Resource hive is my new adventure this year, too! I didn't buy a setup like this. I bought equipment to make two complete nucs. I am excited that my two hives are strong enough to do this! Good luck!
Josh, I also put hardware cloth over my inner cover circles. I also get wine corks from my mom and slice them in half and cover that upper notch to protect the smaller nuc from robbing etc.
You got a nice resource hive. 👍🏽👏🏽 I built my own and have made them with several options with the middle separator(s) ¼” material so that 1. there can be either 4 or 5 frames each half or 2. in the same box I can do 3 sets of 3 frames (with 2 follower boards/separators) or 3. have 3 frames and 7 frames after pulling 1 of the 2 separators if a queen does not survive or might need a bit more space. The bottom board has 3 entrances going different directions which can be toggled accordingly. I usually have one on the truck when working in the apiaries ready for any eventuality. Bee 🐝 Blessed!
Great review! I was eyeing them but never pulled the trigger since I have mostly 8 frame equipment. The way our stands are setup I prefer all the bees coming and going one direction since we have a path behind them. I ended up getting 5 frame nucs for resource hives and I can stack them as high as I need. That's typically the configuration they are sold in too so that helps in our circumstances. We have very limited storage too so we try our best to standardize on the fewest sizes as possible. I do have some queen castles for getting queens mated that are in 10 frame boxes. The queen castles have entrances on multiple sides so I have to set them off on their own stands. My only minor complaint about the queen castle that you may run into with your resource hive is that if one chamber needs all the bees taken out and there are a lot on the walls you can't just take the box and shake it out because it has other occupants in neighboring chambers. I saw HillCo had a new queen rearing setup that was a queen castle/ resource hive setup. It had a thinner middle piece so the lower box could run two 5 frame setups with 4 frames above. It would also require a stand alone hive stand since the entrances are on 3 sides. Making your own is possible but if you cut a notch in the box you may cut into the handle opening. I really think @DadantBeekeeping could really sell more product if they could send someone that does good thorough reviews like you their product to review. Their build quality is really good but their pictures are lacking and the videos really tell the whole story. Thanks for sharing!
Excellent feedback as always Brian! I will have to look into the queen castles as I am not familiar with them. And I agree about the drawback if the need arises to shake some bees out; that could prove a little difficult. And I would LOVE to review some Dadant Beekeeping products. Hey Chris, are you listening? hehe :-)
I too am trying this for the first time this year. Something a little different though. I am using all one color paint because I want to be able to just spin the hive around to capture forage bees if I need to boost one side or the other. They'd probably do OK with two colors, but keeping it simple for them.
It absolutely could and Michael Palmer covers this. I highly recommend checking out his videos as he is absolutely the expert when it comes to resource hives. I’m just getting my feet wet. Thanks for watching!
I've had one for 4-5 years. You can use to over winter. The inner covers and outer can delaminate as the moisture can be ridiculous. Paint both sides of inners and inside of outer cover.
For the cost of this setup, I'd be curious to see how these hives would run on honey production. You can say, yeah, you only have 8 frames of deeps, but you have 2 queens laying so I'd say you'll have more bees in this setup with multiple supers than you would in a standard 10 frame. Could be great for a beekeeper with a limited footprint, or possibly in a city where the rule is maximum of 5 beehives. (Well guess what, I've actually got 10 hives with the footprint of 5) Many ways you could go with these boxes.
I agree! Lots of options here. Be sure to check out Michael Palmer’s stuff because he is an expert on utilizing these. I’m just now venturing into them. Cheers!
I like to throw swarms in them. I can get them to build up 3 boxes high and then use the excess brood to stock queen castles after i graft.@@beesintheweeds
Hi Josh, I’m at awe for the price you paid!
These literally between $4-$6 a piece! Totaling at Most $30; Buy wood, and do yourself!
I used this setup last season. I made 10 batches like that, and it was nothing but success!
Only hiccup, my divider was not tight enough so bees were crossing over and killed the queen.
What else I did, I watched M. Palmer several times, and made diagram drawing, which frame goes where and when. Very important!
Over all, good luck! You’re on a right path!
I agree that DIY is an option, but not something I was interested in building for this particular resource setup. It's always great to hear from other beekeepers, thanks for the tips! Cheers and happy beeking!
4-6 each ? I’m calling BS.
@@handsburyhoneybees893 call it all you want! One brood box uses 6’ of wood; Wood I got 50c a foot, can you do the math?
This year my wood is $.75, so one box is $4.5;
@ a 1x12x8 #2 is around 18.00
Josh, I love using these in my apiary. You can also put a jar feeder over the inner cover and a deep box over them to feed a nuc. These are very similar to queen castles if you plug up two sides which reduces from 4-2 frames to 2-4 frames. BTW, I love your paint jobs!
Awesome! I’m looking forward to using it for sure!
Good job Josh! Juice is worth the squeeze. I definitely use a lot of nucs and think everyone should have a couple per hive. I’m just not sold on the Michael Palmer idea of resource hives. It seems as though it sacrifices what could be a production hive for one used for resources. Keep up the good work!
Fair point Troy. I’m looking forward to giving it a try. We’ll see how it shakes out.
@@beesintheweeds keep us updated
Great video. I have watch the Michael Palmer's clip on this same subject but out in the field doing his own queen rearing and brood removal. It was posted 10 years ago I think. Glad to see your in shop look at this system. Thanks 🐝
Thank you so much!!! 😊😊😊
Great explanation to a resource hive! Thank you!
So glad it was helpful! Thank you for the kind words! Cheers!
Michael Palmer used his a mainly brood factory’s . If i remember correctly he pulled 900 frames of brood and added to his production hives or his cell builders . And the bees brood up faster in nuc boxes compared to 8 or10 frames boxes .
Ha Josh I got some this past winter they are very well made I like mine very much. Enjoyed your video thanks and have a Blessed week
Great to hear! Have a blessed week as well!
Thanks for the video! Resource hive is my new adventure this year, too! I didn't buy a setup like this. I bought equipment to make two complete nucs. I am excited that my two hives are strong enough to do this! Good luck!
That is awesome! Best of luck!
Josh, I also put hardware cloth over my inner cover circles. I also get wine corks from my mom and slice them in half and cover that upper notch to protect the smaller nuc from robbing etc.
Excellent tips! I might do something similar. Thank you for sharing.
You got a nice resource hive. 👍🏽👏🏽 I built my own and have made them with several options with the middle separator(s) ¼” material so that
1. there can be either 4 or 5 frames each half or
2. in the same box I can do 3 sets of 3 frames (with 2 follower boards/separators) or
3. have 3 frames and 7 frames after pulling 1 of the 2 separators if a queen does not survive or might need a bit more space.
The bottom board has 3 entrances going different directions which can be toggled accordingly. I usually have one on the truck when working in the apiaries ready for any eventuality. Bee 🐝 Blessed!
Very cool! It’s always nice to have options!
Sound very similar to the Hillco version. you can run it as a 3x3 queen castle or a 4 over 5 resource hive.
And BTW, I appreciate the University of Tennessee colors. :-)
HAHAHAHA! I knew that would come up. LOL As a native Hoosier I don’t mind but my UK friends do not approve. 🤣🤣
Thanks for the video and all of the information! Was looking into buying one but still had some questions and your video helped a lot, thanks again!
Fantastic! Glad I could help! I’ll keep you posted how it works out.
Great review! I was eyeing them but never pulled the trigger since I have mostly 8 frame equipment. The way our stands are setup I prefer all the bees coming and going one direction since we have a path behind them. I ended up getting 5 frame nucs for resource hives and I can stack them as high as I need. That's typically the configuration they are sold in too so that helps in our circumstances. We have very limited storage too so we try our best to standardize on the fewest sizes as possible. I do have some queen castles for getting queens mated that are in 10 frame boxes. The queen castles have entrances on multiple sides so I have to set them off on their own stands. My only minor complaint about the queen castle that you may run into with your resource hive is that if one chamber needs all the bees taken out and there are a lot on the walls you can't just take the box and shake it out because it has other occupants in neighboring chambers. I saw HillCo had a new queen rearing setup that was a queen castle/ resource hive setup. It had a thinner middle piece so the lower box could run two 5 frame setups with 4 frames above. It would also require a stand alone hive stand since the entrances are on 3 sides. Making your own is possible but if you cut a notch in the box you may cut into the handle opening.
I really think @DadantBeekeeping could really sell more product if they could send someone that does good thorough reviews like you their product to review. Their build quality is really good but their pictures are lacking and the videos really tell the whole story. Thanks for sharing!
Excellent feedback as always Brian! I will have to look into the queen castles as I am not familiar with them. And I agree about the drawback if the need arises to shake some bees out; that could prove a little difficult. And I would LOVE to review some Dadant Beekeeping products. Hey Chris, are you listening? hehe :-)
Great info!
Glad it was helpful!
I am in my second year of keeping. I'm getting ready to set up this same hive. I assume you are going to orient this east and west? I live in Iowa.
Awesome! It’s already paying dividends having it in my apiary. And yes, it is oriented somewhat East and West. Cheers!
I too am trying this for the first time this year. Something a little different though. I am using all one color paint because I want to be able to just spin the hive around to capture forage bees if I need to boost one side or the other. They'd probably do OK with two colors, but keeping it simple for them.
Interesting. Keep us posted on your progress!
Do u think the “resource hive” could be a way of producing a lot of honey? Kinda aimilar to a demaree method. Keep moving brood up to a higher super?
It absolutely could and Michael Palmer covers this. I highly recommend checking out his videos as he is absolutely the expert when it comes to resource hives. I’m just getting my feet wet. Thanks for watching!
Thanks Josh!
I've had one for 4-5 years. You can use to over winter.
The inner covers and outer can delaminate as the moisture can be ridiculous. Paint both sides of inners and inside of outer cover.
Yes. I plan to paint the underside of the outer. Pretty annoying Mann Lake doesn’t do this for you. It’s 10 cents of paint. 🙄🙄🙄
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For the cost of this setup, I'd be curious to see how these hives would run on honey production. You can say, yeah, you only have 8 frames of deeps, but you have 2 queens laying so I'd say you'll have more bees in this setup with multiple supers than you would in a standard 10 frame. Could be great for a beekeeper with a limited footprint, or possibly in a city where the rule is maximum of 5 beehives. (Well guess what, I've actually got 10 hives with the footprint of 5)
Many ways you could go with these boxes.
I agree! Lots of options here. Be sure to check out Michael Palmer’s stuff because he is an expert on utilizing these. I’m just now venturing into them. Cheers!
The Bee Whisperer has a couple videos on using these as honey production hives. He seems to do very well with them.
I use a triple 6 and run supers with a queen excluder . The only thing I would recommend is only let the bees mingle when there is a flow on
That makes sense Dave. So after supers are pulled don’t let them mingle much.
@@beesintheweeds I wouldn’t if I were you . I keep them like this all year . But that’s what I do . But I’m not tell anybody else to .
Think it was brother Adams from Buckfast Abbey who came up with the idea.
Thank you!!
other than heat, i dont see the advantage over individual nucs
I hear ya. Time will tell. 🤷🏼♂️
Michel Palmer said they each produced an average of 11 frames of brood
I can over winter 6
Frame poly in Canada
I have had them draw and fill 4 supers
Woooow! 😲😲😲
I like to throw swarms in them. I can get them to build up 3 boxes high and then use the excess brood to stock queen castles after i graft.@@beesintheweeds
essentially, essentially, essentially
You good?