The double screen board or snelgrove board and how to use it
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2021
- The double screen board or snelgrove board is used to keep two groups of bees separated vertically so that they can not share pheromones but do share heat. It is a very useful tool for splitting hives and increasing the probability of getting a new queen in a hive after a swarm. Check my website at www.BeeWhisperer.us
This system works very well , I used it this year to make a split early spring as the queen cells had begun , put a few up top with brood and a few shakes of bees , and it’s working fine with now a new queen up there and going super well , definitely recommend this and very easy to do once you make the snelgrove board . 👍
I've watched a couple of videos on dbl screen boards.
It gets confusing. You gave great instruction with several scenarios. I will try this using your video as reference. Well done, Thanks
Glad it helped! There are indeed many options.
Like your delivery, easy to take the information on board.
I appreciate that!
Thank you so much for this video! I have been very confused by the double screen dividing board method but you explained it so well and clearly! I’m going to try it out! 👏🐝
You're very welcome!
I've heard some of the use of double screen boards for both splits and overwintering weak hives. This is the first time I think I have seen anytone explaining the benefit of using them with breeding colonies. You hear so much about how hard it is for a queen to come back using this method gives you an insurance policy against the queen not returning successfully.
Always good to have insurance!
Great tutorial! Thank all your effort in giving this information.
Thanks for making it simple Douglas from uk
My pleasure
Thank you very much for this video it It was so helpful I know Using the board this Spring here in Washington State
Glad it was helpful!
Used a double screen board under my cell builder this summer. It worked very well.
Nice idea!
Metod?? Technik??
Oh come on that’s a Bob Binnie’s presentation verbatim.
I'm sure when talking about the same subject matter there may be great similarities. If it is verbatim of Bob's great videos it was subconscious and I acknowledge his influence.
Actually I found Peter’s here to fill in some gaps I had about Bob’s as I get ready to do splits this spring. Some good tips, the funnel you made is interesting. Newspaper between the boxes of you can only end up with 1 Queen and need to combine the two again. Good Job!
Reckon that's a compliment
don't forget to add honey supers because the bottom colony will swarm in a week or two
Very good information. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks, I'm a Newbee, so it was kind of confusing, but I am learning as I go. I captured a swarm last week about 10 miles from my home, put a queen excluder in front of the entrance. Will check in a few day to see what is happening inside. Petty sure I captured the queen. I had my original hive swarm 2 weeks ago. I captured it but it swarmed again and I lost them. Oh well. I only have 2 hives. The original and the one I captured. As I was inspecting my hive that swarmed 2 days ago, I actually saw the new queen come out of a queen cell that I had left in the old hive. The old hive had about 12 queen cells. I only kept 2. Pretty amazing to just happen to see that queen come out and say hi.
They are wonderful!
Some time later. . .
If your Bottom Box with the Queen in it : had lots of empty Space to lay up in : She would not have Swarmed.
Also, why not add some Queen Excluder at the Entrance : an old Plastic QE Cut up into Smaller Sections and Pinned in place across the Landing Board Entrance.
Or if a Nuc (Stacked Noxes) turn the Entrance Dial to QE mode.
Either way : the Foragers will come and go and do their Work. While the Queen is "kept in" as she cannot Fly out through a QE and hence 'Swarm on You'.
(You will though have to open the Hive a Tad, to let 'Drones' out every so often : Drones aka the Big (Boy) Bees can't fit via the QE either. Not a major issue but if not let out they demise just by the Exit and could block Worker Bees from Foraging (aka bring in that needed Nectar and Pollen to raise the next generation of Brood.)
Hope this helps. 😎
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This is a marvlous presentation
Thanks so much!
Thanks for the information!
Any time!
1060 subs !!!! you got there Peter. Good job.
I built 2 of those for my little apiary. They are very handy to have and saved me from having to buy a queen at least once last year. Bob Binnie was the first person that I saw using them and it made so much sense as a useful tool. Plan to use them to get newly mated queens in order to re-queen some hives this summer. I'm to small to graft queens and too cheap to buy mated queens.
There is a lot to be said for raising your own queens from your best hives. These are the one that thrived under YOUR management practices and you want more bees like those! Well done!
I'm going to plug the points on my triangular bee escape and staple screen on the other side. Now I have a duel purpose board. Double screen in the spring and a bee escape in the fall.
That would work, but flow of heat would not be huge.
Merci Peter je vais tester ça tout de suite ici en france
Merci!
You should have like a hundred million subscribers
Thank you, spread the word!
9:20 - 10:05 is all you need - job done
Great tutorial thank you
I have 2 colonies hope to do this soon its feburary here in texas not sure when to do it though
As soon as you have 2 supers of brood and honey flow is kicking into gear....you may do it a second time after a month or so.
There seem to be several forms of these boards. I'm not sure which one is appropriate for what application.
wouldn't you wait 24 hours before the introduction of a new queen? It seemed like you were introducing the queen quite quickly into the top box.
Opinions vary on this....I find right away is best as very few if any emergency queen cells are made providing bees with an excuse to kill the new queen.
Do you find putting a feeder bucket on the top split, missing the foragers useful? And have you ever tried duck tape inside your shaker box? Supposedly the bees don't like to crawl up the sidewalls over it. Thank you.
We love this for swarm cell splits too. Great video again.
I can't say I've tried to check those things but feeding a split is usually required for best results.
I have a question....if I split the two brood boxes (regardless of which one the queen is in) with the screen board, don’t do the frame shuffling, just put in a screen board between the two brood boxes...assuming I have good brood in both boxes for queen creating...would that work? So if the queen were in either box, the other would create a queen, correct? It would be ok if the queen were in the top box rather than the bottom box (assuming I couldn’t find her to move her down...is it necessary to move her down?). Would there be any drawbacks to doing this? Thank you so much for all your valuable information!! I get my bees on the 23rd of April and am “sponging” up as much information as I can digest before then.
That is absolutely correct assuming there are eggs in both boxes. I don't do that as the resulting emergency queen cells produced tend to be smaller than say swarm cells resulting in a higher proprtion of smaller queens which may be a bit sub par.
@@BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer ok thank you! That makes sense! Really appreciate your time to answer.
Need to know Nuc boxes the same method
Can’t argue that. Lol
This is a good presentation. Bob Binnie does almost the exact presentation, but he uses three boxes? Why the third box? I subbed btw.
The third box would be good if this was going to left in place for any lenth of time to avoind the lower box getting overcrouded.
Can I use this to change the direction of my original entrance?? Would like to rotate the entrance of a couple of hives ! Thanks
Yes but it is quite simple to just rotate the hive 20-30 degrees at a time.
How long do you leave the top box on after doing the split?
Depends how much spare room was left in the bottom hive, If you left 5 frames of brood you would have not much time before they were over crouded, If there was still lots of expansion room maybe two weeks or more.
Do you sell these and if so do you ship them across country? Thank You.
I do sell them at my store but right now I do not ship.
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Thanks for the visit
So I did the split today shaking down the bees into the one box. I couldn’t see the Queen but there were emergency Queen cells and swarm cells so maybe she wasn’t there. I saw larvae and brood cells but no eggs. I equalled out the 2 boxes with frames of brood, Queen cells etc. there were bees everywhere clustering on the outside of the boxes. I hope I did it correctly? I do feel slightly worried I have upset the colony too much. 😢
Hope you put the queen cells below the queen excluder!
@@BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer I did! But as luck would have it a swarm came into my garden this afternoon and marched straight into my spare hive!!!! I am so blessed!
Should I relocate the swarm or will they stay with me here?
What would you do if you run single brood box,i get more honey that way ?
Yes
I only have one question, please. How do you feel the bottom hive?
If you mean feed....if needed I would use an entrance feeder.
Oh, I see, thanks. I was thinking that, but figured I was wrong. Thank you for all the info. I am goingto try this. @@BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer
Where can I get a selgrove board
Most online stores.
Why won’t the hive make its own queen?
Colonies will make there own queen only when they have eggs or young (4 day old larvae) available and they currently do not have a queen. Adding mated queens or queen cells give the beekeeper some control as to genetics and timinging.
It's a snelgrove board not a selgrove lol
Thanks missed that.
Stop using the word super to mean box. A super is a box used exclusively for honey {as opposed to a brood box).
In my experience the word super is used universally for any sized box wether used for honey or brood. Though more commonly used for shallows and mediums. Surely you have better things to do than making a stand on what you should call a deep box! Thanks for watching.