That's awesome! Where did you hear about SC? I played it on and off between 1999 and 2010. Never watched an E-sport until a couple years ago, when for some reason I woke up thinking about nukes. What a cool game mechanic, super risky but high payoff., and I wondered... do pros use nukes? As it turns out no, but that when I discovered Tastosis and I've been hooked ever since! Love that cheese though, super cool to see Mini win a game with scouts but still waiting to see that ghost.
I literally just took a shower, about to fall asleep, suddenly i felt something, looked at the window and it was open, a sudden chill, i check youtube and its out, is this... SCBW chills?
and the exact amount of goons on it after the storm to clear it out and continue pushing down the ramp I am so thankful to have these guys still playing
"So nice to see Jaedong vs Bisu just like in the good old Days" wanted to write exactly that. It is really cool that Broodwar lives and old school top players like Bisu and JD are still playing + with Artosis and Tasteless commentary. It can't get better than that..
@@TommyStarcraft2 despite what people like Artosis think, that ‘Flash has no reason to play SSL, he has nothing to prove’, I’m fairly confident he’ll be back to tournaments. Top players like him are extremely competitive, he’s likely biding his time until he feels back to his best.
if you look at the minimap during the final match game 2, you can see how Hero's hotkey for looking at his main is one pixel too high for him to notice the idle drone at the bottom the observer was so obsessed about lol
StarCraft just makes me happy. I get the upload notification and I now I will have a great evening with 3-4 hours of awesome games, great commentary and sick plays. ASL/SSL is simply the best you can get!
Barracks shouldn't be one of the first to get picked in the group selection Anymore. He's a real treat and deal. As long as the "senior" players keep underestimate him he'll continue destroying them. And as for Barracks he surely Love to be looked as the underdog as he takes off pressure and when winning it feels so much better. Barracks Best next gen Terran.
Well let's wait with this assumptions until Barrack starts to bring his own builds, and proofs he can still manage game when a need for adapt and strat change arise. So far, he has not shown it. After this evening, next time someone from the old guard meets him in Ro16, he'll get monkey wrenched from the start, let's see how he manages it.
Wasn't super high on the games up to this point, but this group was genuinely incredible. So many good games! Even the Barracks games were great; I like seeing good planning pay off. And the PvZ's all delivered.
Watching this reminds me of the sweet nostalgia of seeing JD vs Bisu play a macro game on Andromeda. Bisu opened corsair reaver and switched into carrier + Dweb. Never seen it again.
100k views on some of these SSL videos. Only 15k on the AfreecaTV website. What you thinking when you cancelled Tastosis's live english casts from the studio in Korea?
Well most of their viewers on Afreeca are watching on the pro gamer's streams. All the pro-gamers are re-streaming the games and a lot of them have 10-20k live viewers each.
I don't think 100k views per video can financially sustain a live feed from the studio - just the extra tech, the extra personnel, the casters, the extra hassle... Even the casters' salaries alone are probably more expensive than what 100k views can make. Still sad they canceled ofc, just unsure whether it was sustainable.
@@DirkyDiggz They list their streams on the TL page, and there's often like 8-10 listed there during the SSL days. Jinjin translates a lot of their streams afterwards.
Afreeca doesn't care about viewers or if people re-stream the broadcast. The people who care are the sponsors as they want their ads played to a certain amount of people. But since Korean companies rarely operate outside of Korea, they don't care about foreign viewership. It's not like any foreigners have purchased HOT6 or even know what it is unless they've been to Korea. Also, you can tell they don't care about foreigners by the fact that they sell DOPE jackets & merch on Afreeca at the start of every season but don't ship internationally. I've been trying to get one since Season 7 :(
I think Nyoken and EonZerg are great but this season I'm waiting for the Tastosis casts for a change and I was waiting for group A what felt like forever LOL. ngl I did watch a game or two to tide me over. Won't be watching group B yet but tomorrow I'll be looking forward to it! Thanks for the cast in advance!
They are shouting a countdown to the cheer, like "3.. 2.. 1.." in Korean, and then " Fighting!" (They use their real names and not IDs). The groups are polite, so they take turns to cheer each player. This tradition goes back to at least 2009, from what I can remember.
Damn...this group was heartbreaking. Jaedong and Bisu being eliminated was not surprising though, since Hero (Il Jang) and Barracks really put on a clinic on modern BW builds.
23:00 Zerg need to 4-pool more I agree strongly. Just from a first principles, theorycrafting approach, zerg starts with 3 larva which can be dumped into lings for a burst of early production but can't be dumped into drones any more effectively than other races (due to overlord costing larva and extractor costing a drone). So you need to use that advantage probabilistically in order to make the opponent play less economically for the other games when you're not 4-pooling. The optimal 4-pool frequency will equalize your win rate across your openings (otherwise do less of the less winning option and more of the more winning option) I would guess 10-20% of games should be 4pool
our finnish autumn can be pretty cold but goddamn i had no idea i should have taken a winter jacket on me when during workday i suddenly got the biggest chills
Thanks for your casting! Although I don't understand the advertismente inbetween, I like to watch them because they are totally different to the ads where I come from 😅 Edit: wow, I just had a look ath the apm´s in the last game. 550+ over such a long time, just at the beginning. Would be nice to have a keyboard cam from time to time!
"Im literally the fastest I've ever been at 41, like i keep getting faster at the game too. And like yeah eventually I'll have like arthritis or some shit and I'll also die at one day guys so that's great." - Artosis 2024 S tier commentators, world class. Never change!
Is there any situation in which mind controling a lurker would actually be worth doing? Anyway I love the way the Dark Archon just strolls right into the hydras not going a single f...
To be fair, this might be correct in some sense. Like in hypothetical a Bo100, maybe he would be the second weakest player. He basically won 2 out of 3 games with fantastic strategic preparation, and then in the final one, his opponent screwed up. He 100% deserved the win, but I doubt he'll be a top performing player going forward.
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To add to the argument about Starcraft dying..
Here I am watching it brand new for only the last year and I'm hooked.
Starcraft isn't going anywhere.
2:29:40
Where did you come from? What hooked you?
Love to see it bro
Amazing! Welcome!
That's awesome! Where did you hear about SC? I played it on and off between 1999 and 2010. Never watched an E-sport until a couple years ago, when for some reason I woke up thinking about nukes. What a cool game mechanic, super risky but high payoff., and I wondered... do pros use nukes? As it turns out no, but that when I discovered Tastosis and I've been hooked ever since! Love that cheese though, super cool to see Mini win a game with scouts but still waiting to see that ghost.
I literally just took a shower, about to fall asleep, suddenly i felt something, looked at the window and it was open, a sudden chill, i check youtube and its out, is this... SCBW chills?
either that or stage 4 kidney cancer
@@dericksnowwwtechnically the same thing
That Bisu Maelstrom was move of the year for me 3:00:50
and the exact amount of goons on it after the storm to clear it out and continue pushing down the ramp I am so thankful to have these guys still playing
chills
KIlled & Cooked enough zerg steak to feed everybody back home on Shakuras
Busy looks really tood
Too bad he got eliminated
So nice to see Jaedong vs Bisu just like in the good old Days (plus Stork)
Only Flash is missing...i guess he s just Chilling...
"So nice to see Jaedong vs Bisu just like in the good old Days" wanted to write exactly that. It is really cool that Broodwar lives and old school top players like Bisu and JD are still playing + with Artosis and Tasteless commentary. It can't get better than that..
@@TommyStarcraft2 despite what people like Artosis think, that ‘Flash has no reason to play SSL, he has nothing to prove’, I’m fairly confident he’ll be back to tournaments. Top players like him are extremely competitive, he’s likely biding his time until he feels back to his best.
Flash is mentoring Barracks from the shadows
Tasteless is still blurred. So all is good in the world !
Fun fact he's not blurred he just looks like that IRL
Tasteless is using a retro potato-cam as a nod to Starcraft's early days.
3:12:46 Bisu saved his +1 by 1 or 2 seconds before forge destroyed. Insane control!
I appreciate the fast upload, thanks guys
if you look at the minimap during the final match game 2, you can see how Hero's hotkey for looking at his main is one pixel too high for him to notice the idle drone at the bottom the observer was so obsessed about lol
3:10:36 Day9 confirmed new caster
That be cool! At least one season as a test
Please make this happen
pls pls
That would be a game changer. Hopefully for the best.
Weirdo fanboy
jaedong vs bisu I am PRE-CHILLED
Did Arty open a windows? Because I'm getting C H I L L S
PRE- CHILLING HARD AF
PRE-CHILLS TASTELESS!!
Not to take away the moment but I started to warm up after that forced shove into storms on a bridge
was sick for the nostalgia but i thought the bisu hero games were better
StarCraft just makes me happy. I get the upload notification and I now I will have a great evening with 3-4 hours of awesome games, great commentary and sick plays. ASL/SSL is simply the best you can get!
Barracks shouldn't be one of the first to get picked in the group selection Anymore. He's a real treat and deal. As long as the "senior" players keep underestimate him he'll continue destroying them. And as for Barracks he surely Love to be looked as the underdog as he takes off pressure and when winning it feels so much better. Barracks Best next gen Terran.
Well let's wait with this assumptions until Barrack starts to bring his own builds, and proofs he can still manage game when a need for adapt and strat change arise. So far, he has not shown it. After this evening, next time someone from the old guard meets him in Ro16, he'll get monkey wrenched from the start, let's see how he manages it.
snow beat Barrack so easy
16:47 when RT mentions Stork. Dude has been playing great this season!
Wasn't super high on the games up to this point, but this group was genuinely incredible. So many good games! Even the Barracks games were great; I like seeing good planning pay off. And the PvZ's all delivered.
Thanks for interview translation, I suspected Barracks got help from Flash again haha
For sure he did. The timings are too good it's insane.
I hope so, and I hope Flash keeps helping him all the way through SSL.
For someone who's as accomplished as Flash I would expect it makes him proud to see his trainee dominate
Barracks have some mad skills, and combined with flash knowagle? CHILLS
Watching this reminds me of the sweet nostalgia of seeing JD vs Bisu play a macro game on Andromeda. Bisu opened corsair reaver and switched into carrier + Dweb. Never seen it again.
100k views on some of these SSL videos. Only 15k on the AfreecaTV website. What you thinking when you cancelled Tastosis's live english casts from the studio in Korea?
Well most of their viewers on Afreeca are watching on the pro gamer's streams. All the pro-gamers are re-streaming the games and a lot of them have 10-20k live viewers each.
10-20k each?! How many pro gamers you think roughly are streaming?
I don't think 100k views per video can financially sustain a live feed from the studio - just the extra tech, the extra personnel, the casters, the extra hassle... Even the casters' salaries alone are probably more expensive than what 100k views can make. Still sad they canceled ofc, just unsure whether it was sustainable.
@@DirkyDiggz They list their streams on the TL page, and there's often like 8-10 listed there during the SSL days. Jinjin translates a lot of their streams afterwards.
Afreeca doesn't care about viewers or if people re-stream the broadcast. The people who care are the sponsors as they want their ads played to a certain amount of people.
But since Korean companies rarely operate outside of Korea, they don't care about foreign viewership. It's not like any foreigners have purchased HOT6 or even know what it is unless they've been to Korea.
Also, you can tell they don't care about foreigners by the fact that they sell DOPE jackets & merch on Afreeca at the start of every season but don't ship internationally. I've been trying to get one since Season 7 :(
Always love these matches. The fact that we had Bisu vs JD in this group was insane.
NO SPOILER! LETSSS GOOOO!
That maelstrom was so incredibly satisfying to watch
Perfectly executed.
Pimpest play moment
barracks played very well, well deserved ro8 for him
Thank you for casting it!!
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HerO's macros for this round was amazing 🤩woohoo!!
I think JD and Bisu both did great. No complaints❤
Flash made the ro8 and he isn’t even in the tournament!
Painful last games. 😢 I was rooting for the two players that got knocked out.
Our hearts root for Bisu and Jaedong always. But fortunately, our brains do not.
Really cool games in this group. Barracks seems really strong now.
Been refreshing YT for the past hour waiting for this :)
same haha
''no zerg in group C and D but you guys gonna win the tournament anyways'' ha ha i like that
I'm just going to say, that maelstrom was INSANE.
57:37 Chills were had
HE SAID THE LINE !!
2:48:28 - The "genre" you are wondering about is called "Visual Novel".
The games are phenomenal, but there is something especially funny about Mini shouting "ICECREAM ICECREAM" to JD at 1:13:50.
😂😂😂
Barracks playing out of his mind recently. Barracks is a chill machine!
14:26 Tastosis starts
❤
I think Nyoken and EonZerg are great but this season I'm waiting for the Tastosis casts for a change and I was waiting for group A what felt like forever LOL. ngl I did watch a game or two to tide me over. Won't be watching group B yet but tomorrow I'll be looking forward to it!
Thanks for the cast in advance!
thank you fellas. both of you are legends
SC is the best esport! Barracks is op lol finally getting round of 8 LETS GOOOOOO
Work is finished for the day as soon as I see a Tastosis upload.
Organic, ethically sourced, farm-to-supply-depot builds
Is the observer-over-turret exploit that Bisu did allowed in the tournament ruleset?
Yes, legal move.
Turned the heat up hours ago to get ready
2:11:37 the conversation we NEEDED to here. bless this game and S Korea for turning it into a monumental game that will live on forever. GOAT game.
Menstrual is the best map of the season. Period.
What does the crowd chant during the countdown at the beginning of each game?
Pretty sure the first group yells "Get this effin' game started already!". Then the second group yells, "Yeah, and where's the booze?"
They are shouting a countdown to the cheer, like "3.. 2.. 1.." in Korean, and then " Fighting!" (They use their real names and not IDs). The groups are polite, so they take turns to cheer each player. This tradition goes back to at least 2009, from what I can remember.
Pure pleasure! Thank you ❤❤
“He just keeps making it” 😂
Damn...this group was heartbreaking. Jaedong and Bisu being eliminated was not surprising though, since Hero (Il Jang) and Barracks really put on a clinic on modern BW builds.
2:12:09 agree with artosis, the production is fenomenal! love it!
23:00
Zerg need to 4-pool more
I agree strongly.
Just from a first principles, theorycrafting approach, zerg starts with 3 larva which can be dumped into lings for a burst of early production but can't be dumped into drones any more effectively than other races (due to overlord costing larva and extractor costing a drone).
So you need to use that advantage probabilistically in order to make the opponent play less economically for the other games when you're not 4-pooling.
The optimal 4-pool frequency will equalize your win rate across your openings
(otherwise do less of the less winning option and more of the more winning option)
I would guess 10-20% of games should be 4pool
please keep em coming, I'd never seen a SC tournament as it went by
19:24 is the best part of the cast
Heros ass groove 😉😜
bisu chased those vultures like they were nuclear missiles heading for his house
Barracks' play was very inspiring and entertaining ❤
our finnish autumn can be pretty cold but goddamn i had no idea i should have taken a winter jacket on me when during workday i suddenly got the biggest chills
Thanks for your casting! Although I don't understand the advertismente inbetween, I like to watch them because they are totally different to the ads where I come from 😅
Edit: wow, I just had a look ath the apm´s in the last game. 550+ over such a long time, just at the beginning. Would be nice to have a keyboard cam from time to time!
Ia the map Monty hall layout based on the Monty hall paradox?
43:54 "It's like the thorns aura"
I LOVE RT
I LOVE RT
Artosis has gotten so much chills casting SSL he caught a cold.
refreshing refreshing refreshing waiting for that next drop
Excellent group! This was a lot of fun to watch!
What a swarm last game!
My doctor recommended that I get an MRI because it’s too early in the season to have CHILLS
What a great tvz the first game
"Im literally the fastest I've ever been at 41, like i keep getting faster at the game too. And like yeah eventually I'll have like arthritis or some shit and I'll also die at one day guys so that's great."
- Artosis 2024
S tier commentators, world class. Never change!
But not fast enough to stop misclicking and blaming his unbuilt buildings on the game.
Great games! Audio was a bit weird with the actual VOD you guys were casting (very quiet and distorted)
Jaedong always looks like he about to have an existential crisis if he lost the upcoming game.
So what about Ro.16 Group C?
This group did NOT disappoint.
Insane play from Barracks!
I was watching a movie and felt a chill, I opened my window further to embrace the chill, and lo, group B hath been uploaded
Winter is coming and so are my chills
That maelstrom was so hype!
Got help from "Terrans" and "friends who are good at macro"
Flash 100%
You know what, I'm starting to believe. Rush is gonna be the next big big thing in a few years imo.
Flash definitely sniffed something great there.
tasteless really dialed in this season, you can tell the games hes been playing have really payed off in excellent casting
Okay bud, "He did a great job with his TvPlee"
-Tasteless
im getting chills just thinking about this group
This was one of the best groups I've ever seen
That maelstrom from Bisu was so insane omg
Is there any situation in which mind controling a lurker would actually be worth doing? Anyway I love the way the Dark Archon just strolls right into the hydras not going a single f...
That last game was INTENSE!
a chill wind approaches brothers
It was like Jaedong was TRYING to make Tasteless look silly in Game 2. 😂
OMG that last game rly had me pinned to my chair. I wanted so badly for my favorite player to advance. GG. Awsome game.
I'm Literally Shaking right now, This is Crazy
Longetivity
Longevity
Thank you for coming to my ted talk
Really enjoyed the last Bo3, solid plays from both!
Is this christmas?
Vastly better group than A was. Thanks for the cast!!
Anxiously awaiting Group C!! Gotta get my SSL fix
i love Tastosis buy they`re sleeping on Barracks
To think the pros thout barracks was the second weakest on the pool.
To be fair, this might be correct in some sense. Like in hypothetical a Bo100, maybe he would be the second weakest player. He basically won 2 out of 3 games with fantastic strategic preparation, and then in the final one, his opponent screwed up. He 100% deserved the win, but I doubt he'll be a top performing player going forward.
Man barracks is 5-0 in this tournament
48:23 song name?
60 year old Tastless will still be casting Starcraft In Korea
Beautiful Maelstrom there
Last game was incredible.
HERO 💥💥💥💫
Hello from Bakersfield California
artosis is great. tasteless is great. but Tastosis... chefs kiss