Finalmouse UltralightX Review | With recommendations for all 3 sizes and grip tips
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Update: To be clear, the limbo jumps don't happen too much with the gold version, but do on the blue, so after speaking with others and getting more feedback, seems it's a quality control issue on the blue, but the scroll is at normal levels for limbo jumps on the gold. Every wheel will have them from time to time, just how it is. I was worried because I had heaps on the blue copy, but it makes sense it's just a defective unit.
Finalmouse are back with even lighter mice, so they top the amazing magnesium Starlights and they return to the top positions on the Top Mice list. The Starlights were removed due to being discontinued, otherwise, they would've retained the top position over the Viper V2 and G Pro X.
So these mice are even lighter but also offer some new and great features, definitely worth a look! And I'm told they will be in continual production, so at some point, once demand is fulfilled, we'll see them always available throughout the year. Looking forward to that, as I know so many people were missing out on previous drops or having to buy from scalpers (not recommended, by the way).
Anyway, great to see Finalmouse leading the way again, to even lighter weight and a cool new battery life feature on the puck. Love to see it.
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Update: To be clear, the limbo jumps don't happen too much with the gold version, but do on the blue, so after speaking with others and getting more feedback, seems it's a quality control issue on the blue, but the scroll is at normal levels for limbo jumps on the gold. Every wheel will have them from time to time, just how it is. I was worried because I had heaps on the blue copy, but it makes sense it's just a defective unit.
"a quality control issue"
SHOCKING... actually no LoL
@@FcoEnriquePerez Every company has QC issues, nothing is perfect, not sure what you're trying to joke about here but it's pretty standard. If it becomes a known factor and a lot of wheels are like that, then yeah that's a problem, but if it's just a one off, then ... completely normal.
@@RocketJumpNinjahe's joking about how "notorious" finalmouse is with QC issues, without recognizing they are an extremely small company in comparison to many of the other mice companies.
@@RocketJumpNinja My man, are you new here?... I know you aren't.... they aren't neither.
you should review the ROG Harpe Ace Aim Lab Edition
Love the part when he compares the ULX to the g302 and then tells us you'd need two of them to weigh similarly to it
I saw a different review of this mouse, and I was sure it was not 76g. The reveal of it being 2 units is kinda genius, it gives you a better comparison.
i was mind blown
Damn i used to watch your videos back in the day and just got sugested your vid again, wanted to say quick thanks for many years of great videos.
That scroll wheel issue caused TenZ to die in Haven/Icebox once in a VCT match. It is sad that we are still having scroll wheel issues even if its a demo device. I had to get my TenZ med encoder swapped to a ALPS encoder and it got rid of the issues.
Really? Which tournament was it? The League?
It's not a demo unit, it's the final product.
how did you get the encoder swapped? did you pay someone to do it? I'm considering doing the same, since I soldering is a bit out of my alley lol
I think it’s funny that tenZ has his own finalmouse model but STILL decides to main a
@@sjofelumskThe one TenZ used
Remember guys, no need to fight over your FOMO with this mouse. Just keep waiting until you're comfortable to purchase. The longer you wait, the better the QC gets as they get more and more complaints and RMAs. There's usually a better chance that later batches will be even more consistent with their intended quality for mice. No guarantees on that matter tho, just pure speculation.
I really don’t like the hypebeast culture that they are trying to create with these mice.
@@InfectiousViper trying? I think they already did create it years ago.
@@InfectiousViper if anything, it seems as if FinalMouse is finally moving away from that hype beast method of marketing they've been doing since their inception.
@@InfectiousViperlove it or hate it, it’s clear that it made the company extremely successful, as I don’t know of a single other company that successfully made people just buy their peripherals as art pieces (besides maybe razer)
@@InfectiousViper it is a business strategy, and their mice do perform. I mean they are dominating.
I don't like the shape personally but the specs are really cool and innovative
cant wait for pwnage to make an ergo version of this in like 2 years
@@TMKMgo for sprime gaming gear , ergo shape , carbon fiber and 8khz
@@fabuloustheking2753 not the point of the joke, but sure, it seems promising, just wait for reviews since its a brand that popped out of nowhere and we cannot tell if this will be good
Right, innovative.. $190 for non-solid sides, no side grips included and a fucked up wheel AGAIN.
it is a very good mouse, keep hating brokie@@FcoEnriquePerez
After all this time, why does Finalmouse still have issues with scroll wheels?
The wheel is hard to get right. They're trying to keep weight down to an absolute minimum while also making something that will last a long time. Unfortunately I don't think they thoroughly tested for limbo jumps, but I've let them know now so hopefully future versions will be ok or improved. The gold copy wasn't too bad at least.
As someone that uses scroll to jump, I guess I'm going to pass. Still can't believe there's issues with the scroll at this point with FM.
Great video! Love how in depth you went on the important aspects of the shape, I feel like I got more out of this than some reviews talking 15 minutes about how every dimension of a mouse compares with other mice.
Your youtube channel has definitely opened alot of peoples eyes to whats important in choosing a good mouse, i honestly think that you are one of the reasons this mouse even exists today
Nice review, just wanted to point out that the GPX is more comparable with the large ULX.
(ULX: 126mm Length x 59mm Grip Width x 38.4mm Height vs. GPX: 125 mm Length x 63.5mm Width x 40mm Height)
Thanks! And I just went based on small / medium / large for now, I'll compare them when I have them.
We need an update mz1 pro, same shape with upgraded tech and maybe slightly lighter!
Personally a magnesium mz1 would be certified endgame for me
Sounds good to me, let Xtrfy know there's extra demand out here and not just me asking for it! No RGB, maybe more holes, thinner walls; go extra extra light.
@@RocketJumpNinja I personally love the RBG in the corrent MZ1. I do think a pro version would be amazing. I would buy it as long as it kept the same feel as the MZ1!
@@RocketJumpNinjamaybe skip the hull entirely and go for a fingertip only design like Optimum's mouse that just dropped. 28grams
Also for MZ1 - side buttons are mushy, change them for Kailh 8.0 and it's good. Then make M1 and M2 lighter clicks Omrons or TTC Golds....endgame mouse!! @@RocketJumpNinja
Same scroll wheel issue as my starlight, makes me weary of them ever fixing this...
It's a new encoder and most wheels have some limbo jumps, pretty standard, it's just I think the steps are too big or ... mechanical? Hard to describe, but these "click" into position, which you'd think would stop the limbo jumps, but actually makes them worse because there's enough tension to keep the wheel in place even between steps. It's a fine balance they have to find, I guess. They're aware of it now so we'll see how it goes. Again though, the gold copy wasn't too bad, just something that really hinders me these days when I play Apex.
thanks for adressing the issue with scrollwheels getting stuck mid step, this has been a major issue for me with the past few mice to the point where I just went with a EC2-CW which has the best scrollwheel for me, no issues.
Incredible!! Can’t wait to see much lighter ones out there from them! I got an ULX can’t wait for it to arrive!
How long did it take to deliver
@@braags4611 got last Saturday. next batches shouldn’t take that long i suppose
Jesus is back 💛
Day 1 MZ1 and MZ1 wireless buyer, knew it was my mouse the minute you announced them. I'll try the UltralightX, but I know where I'll probably end up - staying with the MZ1 ;)
Much love Zy
Hi. A comment regarding hump position. I have an MZ1 and it's great. It feels super stable with a fingertip grip. Like you I grip it with my fingers further forward on the mouse (maybe even slightly more forward: I have large palms and relatively short fingers). However I do prefer mice with a hump towards the middle. The reason for this is that I have a very light and relaxed grip with my fingers in a neutral position, and this fits with holding the mouse at an angle and not straight in the hand. I like to fit the mouse to my hand, not my hand to the mouse. Having a hump towards the back makes the mouse tend to rotate straighter against this position, trying to make the hump fit in the hollow of my palm, and fighting a little against my natural grip. Tho maybe this plus the comfort grooves is what gives the MZ1 its stability. Also interestingly despite this, it's the least fatiguing mouse I've used -- my hunch is that the small size and low button height keeps my hand tension low.
Also, just btw, I like symmetrical mice more but I figured that the MZ1 was close enough to try out. I'm naturally right-handed but ambidextrous with mice, and I actually prefer gaming (FPS) with the MZ1 left-handed :D Mostly because my thumb feels better that way against the flatter side, rather than the other fingers. I've since padded out the other side a little with some tape to make it more symmetrical.
Also, just for info, I main an M8, but the the MZ1, while feeling quite different, is a very close second. I love small and maneuverable mice.
good point about the wheel, wanted to get ULX, but as a cs dude i dont want to accidentally jump midgame. so plans changed. ty
Just got mine today and it’s sick
everyone knows that we're only waiting for an updated version of your MZ1 wireless
I still prefer mz1 shape overall (even though cable died) but let’s be honest. The built quality on ultralight is much better. Mz1 always felt cranky made sound if holding it tight. Not a huge problem. But it exists.
As a MZ1 main user I am wondering if you have plans to release an updated version of the MZ1 with smaller weight.
A 15-20g decrease will makes this shape reclaim the top spot for the most recommended mice if we go by your principles.
Finalmouse is leaving peoples in the dust with their progress of weight reduction, already moving beyond magnesium allow and look for carbon fiber mods.
It is like a whole decade of potential products based on the magnesium has been skipped.
I really wanted to wait for this mouse it looks great and sounds amazing but i decided to go with the Lamzu OG Atlantis V2 cause as you said size and shape is king and the width on it looks a lot better then the Final mouse and the GPX which is my daily driver right now
First off, thank you for the video.
Second, I don’t want to be that guy, but I feel like I should mention this every time I see it, and for everyone who might read this.
Final Mouse will NOT achieve their claim of continuous availability anytime soon.
While the reviewers may not intend any harm on their part by mentioning this goal, it’s still hype and dishonesty with FM’s marketing, and I’m going to call it out. If I’m wrong later, I’m wrong. As it stands though, they have not even delivered the keyboard they made such a big deal out of to their customers, and they are struggling to deliver each batch (AKA “DROP”) of the ULX on time. As far as I can tell, they’re still doing the same old things and having extreme issues with their delivery windows, but glossing it up with better marketing and reviewer coverage.
That all being said, I don’t hate FM and I plan to purchase the ULX from a friend who was able to buy them. I just believe there needs to be more transparency and less reliance on the whole “continuous availability” thing. This won’t happen for at least a year, if not more. In the meantime it will take you months to obtain one direct from FM at retail, AFTER you beat the bots, endure the shipping delays, and possibly QC issues. If you still want one, that’s alright; I just want you to know what you are signing up for.
Thank you for reading. If I’m wrong later, let me know.
I got a medium and it comes in tomorrow. Finally!!!
Mine comes in Saturday!
This new FM is a great, can't deny that, but the MZ1 is so fucking perfect that I cannot see myself using anything else.
but how do you buy this mouse? there's no option to pre order...
Nice video review, hopefully I will get my hands on one soon
im still hoping for Microsoft to make a wireless Pro Intellimouse and make it around 70 grams or so. i think that would be a hit even today
coolest hand cam ever! Great review
Love the fact that this is recored in 21:9, makes it look so great on my ultrawide.
Mine just came in I can’t wait to use it
Damn, that thing looks good. I really love the accents on the mouse Buttons. The blue one would match my Shroud keyboard in Style, but would love to see them in deep orange. :)
It's honestly crazy that it only weighs 31 grams it's literally 30 grams lighter than the logitech g pro x superlight 2 which is insane and it's even lighter the finalmouse starlight-12 phantom
Can't wait for your review of small 29g one. Right now I'm using v2 pro with modded baseplate and it's 48g, but switching to 29g damn that should feel like feather :)
lmao its gonna be 34grams minimum
@@whoisthatthingwhat did they confirm calculation bias? :)
@@XSFlanger 32=38, 29 = 34 im being generous
Sadly many units rn have bad flexing on the side and palm part , the specs and shape are insane , but something like that is not okay , also the shipping delay is a joke , from aug 1 to december ! They updated the shipping for batch 1 again to 2-3 weeks , and 2nd batch will launch in dec 10th
They delayed the shipping for QC control , but even now many people who got it in the US complain about the flexing issue
I srsly hope finalmouse can improve that stuff otherwise i think they get a huge backlash
Have you tried the Engame Op1we yet? I'm curious what you think about it. I have it now and have not to date, seen such solid build quality in a mouse and I''ve tried many of the ones on your list. Keep up the great videos!
G302 still slaps to this day.
Mice Daddy of UA-cam, The Dr-Mr.RJN!
Solid shell MZ1w waiting room 💀
after my GPX broke i decided to hold off on buying another mouse bc i specifically wanted to wait for the ULX, only to find out they’re STILL having scroll wheel issues in 2024. ggs
very nice i will get one when more are available thank u brother
It wouldn't be a finalmouse without mouse wheel issues.
Xtrfy x Final Mouse Carbon MZ2+ when?
Great vid, still sticking to the Zy's Rail though :)..
I just realised I don't even rest my hand on the mouse like one normally would, I barely touch it and rest it on the mousepad instead 😂
At this point, im just waiting for a company to make a gaming "glove" as a mouse
Waiting for xlite v3 and v3 mini so much! I'm using lamzu atlantis mini for fingertip grip, but recently tried the DAv3 pro, it was so good, but was too big. Looking for xlite v3 mini reviews when it goes on sale 🙃
So wait. Wait for more reviews. 40gram mice I'm using the pulsar x2 v2 mini and even though I'm large hands I still want smaller and lighter
Finalmouse said everyone will get one but how when they dont support PayPal payment?
I have had the MZ1 by Xtrfy for about a year now and can't go back. I need you to make your design but using Carbon Fiber or Magnesium like finalmouse and this will be a godsent.
FinalMouse are criminally bad with their mouse wheels. Kind of sad to see that’s still an issue. I’ve had an Ultralight and an Air58 with MW issues. The ultralight stopped working altogether and the Air58 somehow lost contact with the track and just freespun. Either way they don’t feel good. Not to mention the Air58 was a gift and I didn’t have the receipt for it so they refused to honor any repairs. Pretty terrible customer support from a company who historically does limited drops with no way to buy replacements.
They're working on improving the wheels further. Would have to look into the warranty issue, I've heard their support is quite good though...
Honestly I would use a MZ1 Wireless as I mained a wired MZ1 (cable died) but to get a wireless MZ1 in Canada, its ridiculously expensive compared to the wired version of the mouse.
Glad you stated that it's different for hard pads lol it definitely is.
Great review! Can I buy your Phantom?
Whats your take on using ultralight mice
Lower sense lighter mice might be good but I use a g703 so don’t take my advice
hold on i thought it was meant to be 29g?
The small is meant to be about that ... we'll see once it's out!
@@RocketJumpNinja they tweeted not too long ago that the weight is increased by like 3 grams or so than they originally planned.
thanks mate@@RocketJumpNinja
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love your vids Zy, could you possibly make a vid on the WLmouse Beast X medium or mini?
not being able to set my own dpi is an absolute deal breaker ima stick the the viper v2pro unless they change it
Does anyone know when they will drop them again approx?
I think I would love the smaller one as I'm on a Viper Mini now but for $190 this is not the mouse for me.
I ordered 2x mice for the price of this single one - Lamzu Thorn and Fantech Helios II Pro...
the ULX has lower clicklatency, because it sends clicks inbetween packages, not just every 1ms at 1000Hz. optimum tech made an amazing video about it, bought the new latency tester from finalmouse and soldered it to the switches of his mice.
im still in schock about the ULX. its so ridicoulusly good on paper. i hope they ramp up their production and dont go for small batches.
Finalmouse says they are 29 grams
I mean Rocket the MZ1 is YOUR mouse my guy. Why would you ever switch? I have an MZ1 and love it.
However the polling rate will be a super advantage with the ULX. Because collecting mice myself.
I feel the difference of 1000hz to 2000hz. However, I think there is a diminished return from 2000hz to 4000hz unless you have a monitor that can support it. Definitely want to get my hands on one of those 560hz monitors! 😆
Isn't this roughly shaped like a Deathadder? Could be a replacement for it.
It is the new RJN's top mice! Just WOW
It's insane to see that were still able to improve on mice these days. One question for you RJN, right now you're testing between the mz1 and ultralightX to see which one you perform best with, but do you have any opinion on which one feels the best to use? Essentially, is weight or shape the most important factor in making a mouse feel like an extension of your hand
I got ability on the front MC1 side button, and I keep pushing the button without intending to. Hope for a version where it's a bit more difficult to do it by accident.
MZ1 🔛🔝
fantashtic... whats the price
M3k review when it comes out?
I would really like to know your opinion about the Gwolves HSK PRO 4K.
How is the scroll wheel? I really hated the scroll wheel on the air58 and want to know if it has gotten better
is there a mouse that is light and has the free scroll function from logitech, i got hooked on it from the first mx master and don't want to give it up?
Unfortunately part of what makes that wheel so spin is its weight, so you'd have a super light mouse with a heavy wheel creating balance issues.
Hello, could you review some of the $40 chinese gaming mice with 3395 sensor? I'm really curious on how they compare to branded ones.
I have 17.75 x 9.0 cm hands and I use a relaxed claw palm grip. Currently my main mouse is the HTX 4K Wireless but I’m looking for another lightweight mouse to try since this is getting old any suggestions?
Hey! I have a razer viper v2 pro and Im wondering if ULX would be a fit to me.. And if it is, what size should I use? Any recommandations? Btw, razer viper v2 pro fits me perfectly, but im looking for a leap in tech
My hands are 18.5x9, which version do you think I should go with? It’s on the edge of small and medium. I have a relaxed fingertip grip with two fingers on m1/m2. Fingers are at the wheel. Any input would be appreciated. Thx!
MZ1 2.0 please
Ive been using hyper x pulsfire haste for a few year after your review. Is it worth replacing for 1 around 50
Hey RJninja, what's your cm/360 for quake?
superlight, super cool, but, i cant use any of these mice as normal give me some crazy wrist pain. I'm stuck on my logi mx vertcial until some better options come along
We need solid sides on the mz1. I love the mouse and feel like i aim best with it. However my pinky and thumb are lined up with the senser and my ring finger near the top. So bothe my pink wnd ring fall on the holes witch i dont like. I tried grips but most are to thick and changes the way the mouse feels. Only way i was able to fix this without changeing width was buy useing the ultra thin grips that came with the g pro superlight
Can I actually buy this one?
What'd be the best possible mousepad for this? Was going to get artisian hiyate otsu red version
No left hand option?
Nop 😂
Do these have something similar to razor or Logitech like gshift or hypershift where you can map keybinds?
Time to make an MZ20g, Zy
This is killing me because I love my mz1 wireless. Can we get an ultralight mz1 plz 🥺
Can you review the budget wireless mouse ATTACK SHARK X3?
Holy shit have they still not fixed scroll wheel. I cant buy it then, i use scrollwheel all the time and it needs to be 100% accurate all the time. My Finalmouse TenZ is the first mice in 15 years that have scrollwheel issues. No other mice have had it, i dont get it what they doing.
what is your thoughts on vertical mouse ??
This is innovation, then there is the Superlight 2 dropping like 3 grams from the original...
Thorough review! Did you encounter any QC issues during your testing?
he already discussed the issues he had in the video
Will you do SPRIME PM1 review?
So they still haven't fixed the issues with the scroll wheel.
Nah this is a new issue, different wheel.
Hmm I had issues with de-bouncing on the scroll wheel for the starlight. Later on they pushed a firmware update with a delay on the decoder.@@RocketJumpNinja
Yeah so an issue before was that it'd scroll up if you scroll down too fast or something, now the issue is that the tension/steps are such that they are more prone to getting stuck between them, and therefore physically they'd move while playing and cause a command to be executed, thus "limbo jumps".
That's unfortunate, so far after my firmware update the starlight has no serious issues. Worst case the scroll wheel begins to have issues and at that point I'd solder out and put a new decoder@@RocketJumpNinjaThanks for the updates, seems like a pass on final mouse.
I wouldn't say pass, it wasn't a big problem on the second copy ... like all mice have this issue to some degree, just the blue copy of this mouse was really bad. The gold copy seemed normal. My sample size is small, so I'm not sure if it's a widespread problem or not, but after speaking with others, seems it might have been just a dud. But yeah can't confirm exactly, just saying it seems likely it's not a big problem. That said, I still think the wheel isn't great, but it's not deal-breaker stuff.
There's a lot to love about this mouse, especially the fact that they have an L size model (super important for my large hands). And i would have ordered it in on a release IF it had sidewalls for the main buttons. The open/overhang main button design does not work with my fingertip grip at all, and renders it unusable for me :(
This makes me wonder - are there any benefits to having this overhang/open (non-sidewalled) button style for any gripstyles? Why aren't sidewalls standard?
It lowers the weight, it really only comes into play if you hit your keyboard since it doesn’t effect grip, in which case most competitive gamers are using 60% keyboards anyway.