DCUO: Updated Nature In-Depth Guide Might&Precision
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
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Continuation of my Updated In-Depth Guide series, this time we are looking at Nature both the might, precision and healing side of the powerset. Timestamps to each relevant section can be found in the pinned comment below. Pay attention to both disclaimers in the video as well and how they pertain to the rotations. Enjoy!
Link to the 1st Nature In-Depth Guide
• DCUO: The Most In-Dept...
Thanks to Mz Miracle for usage of the CherryBlossomLane lair!
0:00 Start
2:34 Might Spec, Gear, Artifacts, Augments
6:58 Might Melee Rotation
12:09 Might Wolf Disclaimer
19:22 Might Single Target Loadout
25:00 Using Gorilla Weapon Taps
29:45 Might Single Target Gorilla Roation
33:16 Might Single Target Wolf Rotation
38:21 Might Ranged Loadout
40:16 Might Ranged Gorilla Rotation
43:24 Might Ranged Wolf Rotation
47:07 Precision Spec, Gear, Artifacts, Augments
50:48 Precision Melee Loadout
51:52 Precision Melee Rotation
55:28 Precision Single Target Loadout
57:46 Precision Single Target Rotation
1:01:46 Precision Ranged Loadout
1:05:45 Precision Ranged Rotation
1:08:45 Why I Don't Use Wolf to Set up Prec Dots
1:12:23 Healer Spec, Gear, Artifacts
1:23:42 Healer Loadout & Rotation - Ігри
Might Spec, Gear, Artifacts, Augments 2:34
Might *Melee Rotation* 6:58
Might Wolf Disclaimer 12:09
Might Single Target Loadout 19:22
Using Gorilla Weapon Taps 25:00
Might *Single Target Gorilla Roation* 29:45
Might *Single Target Wolf Rotation* 33:16
Might Ranged Loadout 38:21
Might *Ranged Gorilla Rotation* 40:16
Might *Ranged Wolf Rotation* 43:24
Precision Spec, Gear, Artifacts, Augments 47:07
Precision Melee Loadout 50:48
Precision *Melee Rotation* 51:52
Precision Single Target Loadout 55:28
Precision *Single Target Rotation* 57:46
Precision Ranged Loadout 1:01:46
Precision *Ranged Rotation* 1:05:45
Why I Don't Use Wolf to Set up Prec Dots 1:08:45
Healer Spec, Gear, Artifacts 1:12:23
Healer Loadout & Rotation 1:23:42
Very helpful in depth video!
Just Curious, which of these loadouts would you use personally(since you know a lot more than me and have the experience) - What loadout if; Solo, Ranged, melee - It can be different forms(Wolf/Gorilla).
Also what do you think of "replacing" Robot sidekick for Grim Art? And for Max damage should i run prec or might?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards
/ Alex
@@LyserOwn with nature its going to be dependent on the situation in the raid, sure I would always like to use Gorilla in FB and CT etc but if the group dies a few times that's impossible so you have to be ready to switch to a wolf rotation and be flexible. Currently there isn't really a spot for the Grimnorium artifact for nature, the HV builds will require Solar Amplifier and Transformation and Strategist are too powerful to leave off when taking into consideration the amount of dot ticks happening.
@@ObsidianChill Thanks dude :) Appreciate it!
Bamm Johnson everything but single target might and the missing prec side is up to date. Timing wise not sure
obsidian. im not sure if u will see this or not but please give some love to Fire man. im planning on starting a fire toon but idk where to start. show us some guidance
Finally someone who knows what he’s talking about I played years ago and my electricity build just wasn’t cutting it anymore switched to nature and seen so many ppl just not explaining everything. Very well done my friend 🤙
Cole Younger thank you, glad I could help out
This is so weird! I was just looking at the nature video last night tryna to find an updated one. And when I wake up here it is! Clutch timing bro
First off!.....GLAD to see you back in the trenches. Good job on the video, a bit more detail than some of the others(which was needed) which IS a good thing! I'm HOPING this is a start of the "revamp" of your past videos, for the current state of Powers and Loadouts for BoP. Yes, even tho we're nearing the middle of the DLC, most ppl are coming into higher endgame CR's, and Arts are changing along with the climb. Personally, I'm HOPING you do Gadgets next, but that's just me! ... lol We need a more updated version of all these sets, at this point and time(which I'm going to assume that was ur plan), in comparison to the "lack" of reasoning that other videos are produced. Thanks once again for all your work!
Just changed to nature last night, this is a good place to start. Thanks.
A start and thats about it
Dam y lol
Thank you looked it up for my wife. This guide helped tons 😃
Forgot to add the other reason why I wait 30s to refresh Wolf on Might Melee is that 30s is the internal cooldown for the 200 rank proc of Soul Cloak so I will get maximum supercharge regeneration if I wait for that rather than 20 seconds etc.
ObsidianChillDCUO where does it say the cooldown is 30s? It only says it on the chest mod which you wouldnt use. I leave and go back into wolf every 13s to always have the crit buffs and 10% damage bonus
@@DarkxNemesis the 200 proc is the same as the extended sc chest mod except that its 7% instead of 5% and that they don't stack. Batuba basically just added the mod to the artifact just like solar amplifier has empowered channeling. You can go back in that often if you'd like but without a SC spammer in the group you'll never be able maintain using that much supercharge throughout an entire raid
i may have missed but but what to take out to add dervish?
My nature wolf form hits 1.7 mil 3 target 2.2 mil 8 target in 10 seconds my might only 66k 325 sp tetrahedron trans and strategist STRATEGIST IS MAIN PART OF MY DAMAGE I lost 400k on 10 seconds changing out strategist card for solar amp (hence more might) trust me you want a op nature build this is not it this is decent. Idk obsidian does not like tetrahedron its op I'm not counting on someone else to have it. If they do then I will change to solar amp
ObsidianChillDCUO I meele and range in healer role which is why i can maintain it every 13s. I use neo venoms and wolfs constantly together as well due to 200 soul cloak and 5% back from neo head mod
Welcome back brother.
Wb Oc! Today is a good day! And damn, Dcuo looks great on PC.
Finally another nature vid nature the best it’s been so long love ya obsidian am 14 started playing when I was 7 but been watching you for 4 years
Man if you were born early, you could have seen the prime DCUO days on ps3 and Xbox 360. I feel so old and I’m only 23
Prime what’s so prime about it ps3 days I remember when the cancelled the ps3 and you couldn’t play on it anymore
Kyle Schlundt Bodien When last laugh was the only DLC the queues on pvp, pve and open world pvp are filled with players, you don’t need to wait hours to queue up. Like everyone was happy and no micro transactions until daybreak bought DCUO.
Kyle Schlundt Bodien Today DCUO is still fun but it’s very grindy and less players but there’s more cool collection styles.
Thanks for this
Welcome back! Just wanted to share that the Pheromones from Savage Growth and Bloom will overwrite each other. If anyone is running Bloom (which they shouldn't) they need to take off Savage Growth or it's a wasted power slot.
Thanks
Ah, now I watched it, one thing I'd like to add for healer is that even though Flourish refreshes the HoTs on all affected players (and because of this, you're right saying you don't really need to reapply Metabolism), what really is the core of Metabolism is that it doubles the HoT ticks (or rather reduces the delay between two HoTs from the same source).
So if a single HoT would heal you every 1s, metabolism reduces the timespan. So it somewhat makes sense to utilize it anyways if there is constant damage ticking.
Also I still prefer the Setup of both the Orb of Arion and the Page of Destiny with the StratCard being the last one for the extra HoT.
The reason is that constant damage can be healed by your HoTs and Flourish on CD itself plus the boost from Metabolism. When you really struggle is when there is an increased number of medium to bigger hits coming in. This is where I found the Page of Destiny useful and the Orb is used because you can't really fully control the damage the group takes. It isn't rare that someone drops to 20% and there is no Page going on and your HoTs plus Flourish won't cover it. The Orb really shines here and the Akolyte gives you time to re-HoT everyone and stuff since it constantly keeps healing.
But then again, it is only my personal preference and I'm doing better solo healing portions of elite compared to when I was using Strat, Trans, Page.
thanks for your input
Would you still use both orb and page even with purple ray in the mix now ?
@@jayt9821 I would ybh, I still use it for all my healing powers, specially for nature i guess its hard to not use Orb considering that nature doesn't have any burst heals
sorry for being late, actually Metabolism doesnt influence the pheromones. what it does is applying pheromones and then it applies a HoT with a high tickrate. If you open the effects, you can see the hot, also the healing amount of your pheromones and Metabolism are different. I like to run Strat, Trans and Page. Strat and Trans are too good for anything Nature does. Orb is nice, but a bit better on other powers.
@@kairin5333 cards n clarion now for me but I pvp.
CHILLLLL UR BACK!!!!!!
Been seeing a lot of nature vidz lately. Yall put some respect on nature, lowkey op. St, aoe,. Name it. I been playing nature since day one.
@Krypto Analyst Yo mother
Krypto Analyst since the guy is not answering you properly because he don’t want the secret out. It depend on the situation, if it’s single target fight go gorilla and if it’s aoe go wolf form. You have to keep swapping gorilla or wolf depend on the situation.
@Krypto Analyst gorilla form
Nice video bro.
Liked even tho I didn't even watch it yet. It's gonna be on-point as usual :3
That SS2 tho ♡
Do celes, mental , quantum, hard light & rage!. Love your videos.
Yeah celestial next please Chill
IGN0RANT I have a cel video hitting hard!
Great vid. But Please do atomic first for the updated tank power guides 🙏
i'm pretty sure you can clip fb after 2 seconds using wt. works well on fire and ice builds.
My mannn!!!
Hey chill have you looked into the range of flourish for the H0Ts resetting? It’s seems based on the tests we ran a few weeks back that Flourish only continued to spread to the closest allies and not the farther ones. Essentially the farthest person would not continue to receive H0Ts from flourish which would mean you would have to recast your H0Ts. This can be seen in FB and even if you two test the flourish. It stops the H0Ts from continuing at a certain range.
bless u
Great video.... can you do celestial next please 👌
For those of you that want a non animal build.. lol for the ranged aoe I run 3 dot powers, voracious plants throwx3, then harvest then repeat throw x3(voracious plants). Last power slot is robot sidekick. Yes this Rotation is weaker than animal forms but it’s still better than pretty much all other powers x electricity maybe. Just so everyone knows, cuz like me I can’t stand not looking at my character lol😎and I know there’s people out there that don’t like the look of animal forms
I am not keen on Gorilla for some reason and I have found you can get better damage for Wolf Single Target if you set up the 3 dots then go Wolf, hit Harvest, Grapple Line and Zip Tie (need to be acrobatics), Heat Vision and Sonic Shout, then repeat. Sonic Shout does almost twice the damage of Impaling Thorns and is group damage. I am running Solar Amp, Strat and Trans cards. I think they may have buffed Sonic Shout cos it never did 150k crits before and with this load-out the timing just works for cool downs.
Charlie going full single with the 2 acro movement powers certainly works and they have quick animations. Sonic shout was boosted a lot by the trans artifact procs, it is however midrange damage so a player would have to watch their positioning ( in addition to turning down or off their in-game sound :P)
I been running trans strat page, the HoTs with trans strat is ridiculous, then if you happen to get distracted page is a literal life saver giving you time to hit savage>meta to get ppl filled if they're 50%^, or savage>meta>cross poll if ppl have dropped down to like 10% which at this point page kicks in and pops ppl up to 40-50% health with a HoT left on them from what I can see. Then use above combos to bring ppl up depending on health percentage missing.
Once the GU106(107? The nature changes) it's out on live I plan to try bug form with no EoG/scrap just to see how much crit boost I get for the 15 sec window.
With Orb you don't have to spam priority heal. The pet spams it every 1 second for you freeing you from doing that. so you cast it once every 12 seconds at 200 rank and concentrate on other heals.
I've seen ppl use bug with bloom in bug form, basically go bug pop bloom flourish return to human to have 4 HoTs up
Interesting take. What's the chroma by chance were you using on your healer my guy?
i am confused on something. on your load out for range you have robot sidekick and i have set up the exact same load out but it seems like i have to resummon my robot sidekick whenever i go into wolf form. is that right or is my robot sidekick dying or something? the power is set on both load outs (damage and wolf form)
Are you doing an updated Rage guide soon? For arts and might or pric? Just recently came back and I feel like my stats and artifacts are kinda wack.
@ObsidianChillDCUO is there a setup for gear/artifacts for a Range Spec? Both your Might and Percision are for melee? I just started so I apologize if I dont understand
CAN YOU DO UPDATED MENATL PLEASE!!!
Nice, can you please make one for gadgets? cheers!
Hi what artifacts are best for a kryptonian tank earth character i know one which is solar amplifier but don’t know other two please tell me
Do you have to have start trans or page to make nature work? Reason I ask is because I have demon fang manacles orb atm and was just wondering
I may have missed it in the video but out of all the range specs which one is best? They all seem fun but Id like to get some damage out of it
So if you're waiting for your super charge to fill up for wolf might dps. What does the normal form rotation look like why filling up that super charge?
Your videos are really good and thats why i subscribed to your channel. I want to ask if it is possible to speak a little bit slower but louder for your audiences whose first language is not English? Thank you:)
lol Mepps mouth must be watery af with all these power respawn tokens
What base items are those. I would like to make a base with nature stuff
So if you do use orb you would just cycle cross poll/sav/meta/flourish(when needed ofc) and when its needed shields and priority?
Havent played nature since probably T4 was top tier bout to return to my OG power today after nearly 6 years. Water and electric makes everything too easy imo and that's pretty much all I've been lately(last 4 years)
How did you get that green color on your style I’ve been trying but I can’t do it
BTW im super speed and i know you said use tornado pull but wb the pull? cuz if im not wronge zip line attack doesnt pull and tornado pull does
What material are you using for the healer style? I run the same style just don't know the material
Does blossom heal everybody? It says it heals more on allies with pheromones, but that's a wierd way to word a priority heal if its only for one ally.
In your opinion who are the best healers? From best to worst and what is the best solo healer(s)?
Hey are you going to do a updated version of earth or is that current
So if someone was heal main and had trans stray at 120 what would be a good 3rd DPS artifact grim or scrap/EoG
What if you just starting playing and don't have super crazy enhanced heat vision? Also I picked flight for various movement reasons.
So what would be the 3 best arts now for nature DPS? is this still natures best option for DPS even with changes to the SC'
You can clip fb after 2 seconds and get the same result 😃
i saw u in the watchtower at like 10-12 at night
Time to change to Nature
How would calculate how much your HoT will be with using trans strat? Having 48.8k resto
What's the value of using Thorn Burst instead of Harvest? Also, it seems fairly often when I'm fighting a boss, my poisons fall off even tho I'm using harvest plenty often. Is this a bug or is there a reason for it? Thanks!
Thorn burst would only be for melee situations as it has higher base damage than harvest. As for your poison's wiping there are numerous boss mechanics during fights that will cause your dots to drop, its unfortunate but the devs didn't design those fights with nature in mind so it can happen then you have to re-apply everything :(
@@ObsidianChill Damn, that is a bummer. Even so, it's good to know that it's how the game works so I know I'm not doing something wrong. Thanks a ton for the reply!
Cool vid but I wouldn't run gorilla since I'm looking for loadout for my ivy gorilla form not accurate to her abilities
Here's a stupid question...why in your rotation vids do the sparring targets not get thrown around, especially when doing something like Doom Spin. My League Hall targets go all over the place and I lose so much damage cos i cant hit them all as they are so far apart. Is there some trick I am missing here?
Have someone in decorate mode, items wont move
What are parses? However you spell that word, in relating to the damage log; is it just damage that's done every 10 seconds?
Just a snapshot of a set amount of damage you deal within a specified window which is normally 10 or 30 seconds
Does gorilla take increased damage? Whenever I use it I drop in health really fast.
whats the diffrence of 180 and 200 grim arti other than the 5 percent might? What exactly does void gazer (4) do?
you don't get the power regeneration penalty from using a pet like robot sidekick etc in a rotation. Its barely noticeable and really just 160-200 are just the statistical increase
Combat log at 25:43 -- that's your blast adapter :)
yea :) the name through me off at that moment I know it goes by different names in the combat depending on your spec
@@ObsidianChill Yeah, I figured you'd know the moment you finished recording :p I just thought I'd post so that if other players see the name of their weapon in the combat parse, they know it's a blast adapter proc.
Can you do an updated nature guide or is everything pretty much the same?
How do I know when to refresh. And do the HOTS stack you just spam them
What’s the tricksters smashin mole whacked damage??
Nice bro just wondering what power are u planning doing next not tryna rush u lol 😅
Fire, Celestial will be done at the same time too from the test server
ObsidianChillDCUO cool thanks for the response man
Any changes to artifacts post nerf? :D
Do mental please updated I don’t wanna give up on it
Could u do another quantum? I been quantum awhile but I been off dc for almost 2 years and I'm trying to come back
He did an updated one not to long ago
Best thing to do is change your power
@@user-fd9hx9hd9q I went back to HL
As a beginner and barely getting into this game, which load out and rotation should I focus on first?
the wolf rotations will be the most common, because its faster and most easier to maintain a 2500 SC cost than trying Gorilla and wipining or dieing and losing a 5000 SC each time.
So gorilla gets a 10% the whole time you are in there? And it doesn’t go away like wolf?
In your single target wolf form you use zip tie. Is there a good substitute for that for those of us without acrobatics? I'm flying on my nature toon.
memorizing lasso or freezing breath and cancel after the 3rd tick from the iconics tree
So what about generator mods?
Should I have each row show:
Health
Restoration
Might
?
For healing I would personally go Power, Restoration and yea if you are a might dps then might or prec if you are a prec dps etc
@@ObsidianChill affirmative eagle one!!
Also!! With this new UNGODLY Nature nerf, is it safe to say that this video is still relevant?
As it seems the nature nerf only affects cool downs of transformations. Nature in itself appears to survive this nerf given it's numerous variations in loadouts.
So let me ask this, would bloom be better in situations where you are spread out where cross poll isnt viable? Then swap back to cross poll when its useable again?
Bloom can work well in instances where the group has taken alot of damage like in CTE or PCE but personally I don't like any of the channeled heals and at that point if I can't use cross poll due to the spread of the players I would simply run Regeneration SC at that point keeping blossom-meta-SG-Flourish-shield and then a SC
@@ObsidianChill ok good to know, I dont like channelled healing either, hate it is why I dont go sorcery because 1 of their main heal is a channel lol
I only have 187 skill points. So what part of the video of DPS would you recommend? I'm okay with long range or AOE.
the might ranged wolf form rotation or wolf in general will be well suited for your needs
@@ObsidianChill Thanks man... One more question. I got my Orb of Arion to 100 and It summons Spectral Acolyte when I use Blossom for healer... once that Acolyte comes out, do I select another move for it to spam? How does that work?
when you use blossom it will spawn the acolyte for short time until you upgrade the orb and it casts a Priority Heal automatically ever 1.5 seconds.
@@imslewd It's at 140
Would you suggest someone who usually blind Q or LFGs their content to switch to nature?
I'm currently 469sp and water, but just came back from a 4 month break from the game. Took a break because it was getting stale. So now that I'm back I'm thinking of going nature. But dont wanna regret it I guess.
nature will do fine in any blind que, alot of mechanics now adays in raids are shield penetration so having a powerset with as many HOTS as nature and less shields compared to other healer powersets it covers that deficiency
@@ObsidianChill is why I switched off water, because in my eyes water was a mitigation healer more then anything. Was very few times I'd break 50-75k power taken in doing a raid because of how I spec'd
What is your cheat piece (visual)
Can u do nature single target human loadout please 🥺🤔
See i've been telling people to use scrap of the soul cloak but people say you dont need to
would love an updated guide now that wolf is 5k
What do you mean 5k sorry kinda a new player.
I just getting back into DC and never used nature so my question is what do I do when my super is down how do I build it up fast IAM I just doing the DOT once then spamming voracious plants untill super is back up ?
Serpent call is your super charge generator, so while you keep your DOTS up hit serpent call every time you use harvest and keep doing your attacks cause everything generates SC a little.
@@LawlessJr okay thank you
Hey bro can u break down why u don't run extended SC in ur chest rather than pen strikes plz. I know u always say ur not convinced core strength does much. JW why u wouldn't run ex SC bc doesn't it stack w the head mod
Extended sc is a personal choice, I don’t run it for wolf because I have soul cloak and it doesn’t stack and for gorilla you can but I feel for gorilla the extended isn’t as practical because I’m usually at 100% by the time I need to use gorilla again. If I was losing supercharge that quickly I would just switch to a wolf build
To be fair when it comes to the SC of nature, in almost every situation, when you activate bug form, gorilla or wolf, at least from what i've seen, you barley even stay in the form for too long, or even just don't stay in it at all so you can spam the sc even more and maximize your dps output
Save me. I just switched back to tanking and i have no idea how my loadout and rotation be for Earth. I’m trying to improve my aftershock. My loadout is the pull , epicenter , jackhammer , hard light shield , gemstone shield & poise SC. Arts are prototype at 200. Eye of Gemini at 160 & Manacles at 160. Any tips?
One question, why would you use jackhammer? It locks you into an animation and isn't very useful for pulls.
Sif for the stun. I only jackhammer for 4 hits at first and then just one tap it and clip it w shields to maintain stone skin. It’s great for stunning adds , makes kiting so much easier
Nasser Alajme I use jackhammer, Epi, gemshield , totem (only needed for boss fights, u can run earthen grip on adds if u wants, but Epi is usually all the pull I need) pheromone sc for 911 heals, and brick. Earth has the best defense of all tanks so I pull, block, and jackhammer to cc a lot. I virtually never die even on man bat with no healer. Just make sure u block if ur taking decent damage
Sif jack hammer has massive crowd control, best damage u can do as earth tank, and gives u 55% damage reduction which is good for either giving ur brick a break (I run totem so my brick rarely dies) or if brick does die u have the dog reduction until u can call ur brick back out. Over all jackhammer is an essential move
Harley Freitas I love the idea of this loadout! Thank you so much ... also , why not use fortify instead of totem? Sometimes brick takes spike damage and totem can’t really do 20k+ heals
What would you run for Elite
QUESTION....
Any load out super speed??
Alot of us need that guide. Most and alot doesn't not use Super speed.
I'm acrobatic.
are you asking for superspeed rotations? cause im acrobatics in every loadout in this video. I said in the video what you would do if you were superspeed, ignoring the exploit rotations you'd just sub in tornado pull on wolf and gorilla single target and dervish instead of sonic cry on wolf melee
@@ObsidianChill oh k gotcha. Thnx again. Re watching.
Whens the updated version of this coming if you dont mind me asking?
nothing really changed. Gorilla is the same rotation used now. Wolf is the same rotation used now its just that you can't refresh it but you still keep 2 pi's and then 3 burst moves
What should i use in Gorilla form if i'm super speed and not acrobatics ? For the single target loadout
tornado pull
Should i still run insectoid or blossom?
When you rewatch the entire video again and still can’t help asking what is the broken loud out please make a nature broken loudout guide
Hard light next?
Can heat vision be subbed for something else? My artifacts are not up there yet rn and its only a single target atm
In wolf form ranged might
Freezing breath from iconic works as well, just cancel it after 3 ticks
I still wish you can manipulate the elements than just plants.
Hi I just created a level 25 nature hero and every power load out works except for my wolf/gorilla/insect forms. Their load outs are faded and don't respond at all. Can you or anyone help me please?
sounds like you haven't generated enough supercharge (the orange bar under your player name at the top) to be able to use those abilities
@@ObsidianChill Thank you for the advice it really helped.👍
How much are the Minotaur Eyes worth?
bloom and savage growth used together will only apply 1 phermone stack!
true, however you wouldn't be using bloom to apply a stack, you'd be using bloom to heal npcs and to give a larger sustained heal over time when the group has taken damage similar to zeus FGSE etc
@@ObsidianChill is it intended that these dont stack? seems if you wanna go full on HoT it should let you
When do the pheromones run out so I know when to use flourish?
they technically last 12 seconds but the majority of the time you'll be using flourish more often than that to spread them to new targets and to get a larger heal when needed for the group
ObsidianChillDCUO thank you appreciate that.
How does obsidian have the summary maxed to 10 seconds in the chat