You could totally sell that painting as "My frustration with the art worlds elitist nature and exclusionary practices towards the common artist, and barriers of entry like the cost of supplies and *need* to recoup costs"
Honestly I'd pay like $200 for it just for shits and giggles Then I'd put it above my bed in the fanciest frame I can find and leave it there till I die.
Deadass I would pay $300 I love this man I actually used to really enjoy art but I hate rich people contemporary art tbh like I'm too literal and stupid to understand why a yellow square is a comment on society and child abuse or smth so I support this cause
I actually consider this painting as true art - it’s an expression of your desire to break into the art world. The tree acts like a block preventing the pigeon from advancing into the art world. The pigeon appears to be levitating above the ground without working to move his wings: an unconscious expression on the desire to make easy money on art without working hard (like the blue square paintings).
And this is why "art" is so difficult to define. The analysis was genius, I would say somehow leaning towards a psychological reading. Yet, it is nontheless an interpretation: your interpretation; which suddenly gave quite a deep meaning to the piece. The audience can be as actively involved in the providal of meaning as the artist that created the piece.
Tugg's experience with MREs must have ingrained in him the importance of leaning things up against a rock or something. That canvas will cook in no time.
I'm an unuronic fan of modern art and I do agree that it's a scam. Like, I do actually like the paintings I just don't think they should be worth millions of dollars. But like, that's not the art's fault, it's the fault of the rich people buying art cause it's an investment or a tax write off and not cause they actually like or even understand it.
Yea, I’m in the same boat. Most pieces that are sold for so much are just used as tax right offs. That’s just objectively true, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t art. Lucifer by Jackson Pollock is a masterpiece, but it shouldn’t sell for 150 million dollars
Tax accountant here. Using paintings as a tax write off comes with some variables and can easily be fraudulent if mishandled. The rich are just weird, and there are better ways for them to avoid taxes anyway
The fact that, as soon as you asked how much it was worth, she asked you how much you've painted and how many people follow you should tell you that it's not about the art itself, it's about who you know and your reputation.
Thanks for the tip jukebox! I live in a small unventilated apartment and this video was filmed in the past, so a little too late. But losing braincells is something im not a stragner too :)
As an artist, I can tell you pricing is as arbitrary as it gets. It really depends on your goal. Mine is to paint more and share the experience with other people. so I price my art on the lower end. I'd rather have my art on someone's wall than my drawer waiting to be sold at a higher price.
That's a good way to put it. I've seen this at local art places where you get pieces selling for a few dozen or couple hundred dollars. Yeah they make money, but there's also a community of artists who use the space to share that with people. I learned pottery and how to use one of those wheel things (i forgot what they are called lmao) from an artist there. That's an experience beyond money.
Unironically, the painting is good. Like compared to pieces I have seen selling thousands, it is easily on par. You would just need to make more like this one, open a gala in nyc, send out invites to a bunch of rich and famous people and probably buy some advert or put up signs, and all of a sudden you have a well sought after gala. Then you turn it into an auction with opening bidding at 1k.
You have a point, I could totally see some nepo baby making a series of paintings like this, telling the media it was about conservation or some shit, and making bank
This painting for sure represents Big Pigeon energy. Pigeons always think that they are the most important animal and this painting perfectly encapsulates that idea.
Pigeons are considered rats of the sky, but they used to be trained and domesticated so they could carry messages. But, now that we don’t need them for that, they’ve been swept under the rug, looked down upon. The empty look in the pigeons eyes encapsulate how unfair that is. It’s a commentary on how when humans no longer need something it becomes worthless, stupid and we look down upon it. A type of illustration on how consumerism has affected our lives.
As an artist, it does rlly disgust me whats happened to the art world. Its also annoying how people pay so much money for crap, people start to hate artists, and stop appreciating art that takes months and is really detailed, and not just a rectangle
Watching this reminds me of when the guy walked on that fashion show runway in a trash bag and everyone cheered until the security guards sprinted out and completely decked him
Honestly, someone should get a famous artist to draw something, then try to sell the painting as their own, and when art snobs reject it, reveal who the artist behind it is.
As someone who has been trying to sell their art for years with no success this video has taught me that I simply need to go sit in the middle of a park with my art on display and I could potentially make rent this month. Unfortunately that would require me to go out in public and socialize with real human people face to face but hey at least I’ll have money
Definitely! I also recommend taking part in a local art fair if possible, it's intimidating for sure, but something about seeing the pieces in person and holding them makes people more likely to buy them. I myself have bought many more pieces in person than I ever have online. Plus it's nice to actually meet the artist face to face. I hope you have much luck in your journey!
There was actually a guy on one of those real estate reality TV series that made giant, abstract art and sold it on Bourbon Street in New Orleans as his job. His main job. Location, location, location.
Dude, make prints of that painting. I’d buy it and proudly hang it in my room. It gives me an intense feeling of joy that no painting has ever given me before.
Genuinely, the first thing I thought when he showed it to the camera was "I have to have a print of that." I would buy it in a heartbeat. It's just so silly and muted lol I love it
Isa was a lot cooler than I initially expected when he said he found an art expert. She seemed secure enough in her chosen profession to not flip out the moment someone dared to say something cynical about it. I have no respect at all for modern art, but at least there’s one person in that world who’s respectable. Lol
Oh its absolutely a scam. High art creators get with appraisers who inflate the prices to obscene numbers, which can then be used to launder money/use as tax write offs.
They'll also overpay for art from artists whose works they collect so that the established price of that artist's works goes up, increasing the value of the rest of their collection. A whole lot of monopoly abuse.
She just ummm verified the elitism that exists in the art world. Also, next time do acrylic. Oil paint has to dry in between and you have to layer it up. Acrylic dries quickly, blends well, and layers well. It is great for beginners like us. And it is significantly cheaper than oil and you can water it down to get whatever consistency and opaqueness you want. I love acrylic. Oil scares me. 😂
I could paint an eagle and and a pigeon together in a mest woth an egg and say “It shows that true beauty comes from abnormality, and by breaking the shackles of social norms we can create something magnificent” and it would sell for 2 mil if I had a decent following
right like most of the time I just think "bitch you weren't feeling or thinking shit when you were throwing paint at the canvas", as someone who paints I can tell you I'm not feeling anything meaningful while I listen to three podcasts completely unrelated to art to keep myself motivated
Actual artist here: The art itself isn't a scam, but what IS a scam are the gatekeepers who get to decide if something is valuable or not. Case and point: There is ALWAYS amazing art out there for sale for dirt cheap but if you go to a gallery - While some of that art is amazing, some of it is complete and utter garbage. I've been trying to figure out how to usurp the gatekeepers for decades...I'll let you know when I figure it out!
Watching this with subtitles is so much more fun. Not because there's secret messages (should clarify that there, unfortunately, aren't), but because its one in the morning and seeing UA-cam frantically type out an amalgamted version of Tugg's frustration is ridiculously funny to me.
your videos are, unironically, very therapeutic to me lmao. just the energy of your content gives off this passive aggressive "i'm tried of everything and i dont care anymore" and it seriously helps me out a lot, more than i'd like to admit. like i feel all pissed off rn cause im in a depressive episode but i just turn on the newest big tugg video and remind myself that life is a big shitpost and literally non of this matters! so thanks tugg!
i’m face buried in pillow on the side and typing w one thumb so i couldn’t write a bigger appreciation or agreement rn but yeah u put it perfectly for me
I love art, I appreciate modern art for its simplicity, and I appreciate abstract art for its chaos…that being said holy hell why the fuck was that 70 million dollars
I’m not a very emotional person, but when she asked what art is to you and you didn’t even hesitate “the Lego movie”, I literally cried laughing. I don’t think I’ve laughed that hard…ever.
When she mentioned how she could see the art interpreted as your fabricated story. That is when people will give value to art. They see the story they want or sometimes need, but thats when the bad people, take advantage of those emotions. Those are the people ruining art. Mona Lisa is priceless because of tbe culture around it. Not just tbe painter, not just the painting. Your painting is worth something because you genuinely tried. And it was an honest wholesome image. Art supplies (used) alone I'm sure where about 150 bucks. 200-300 dollars would be a fair price. Maybe more because of the fans, culture, around your work. 😊
Your painting looks like it would fit next to a Shel Silverstein poem. It feels nostalgic to me, I genuinely love it. No I wouldn't pay a million dollars for it because I can't but I'd absolutely pay up to $40 for a print of it at HomeGoods. Great job!
Even though you’re not an artist, it’s a really cute painting!! As an artist myself (hoping to be a character illustrator, mostly for comics) I think you did great for a beginner, good job Tugg!!
you know what's crazy, if you made the pigeon super duper small out of two black spheres looking up at the tree, it would probably be thousands of dollars.
I am an art student and im so glad im not the only one who absolutely HATES artwork that is deemed amazing when its just A FUCKING YELLOW CANVAS! There are people actually trying and just because these people are famous art critis or whatever they get off with painting like newborns and i cant stand when my art teachers tell me there artwork is important no ma'am its shit im sorry 🙄
SAME though I'm not an art student, I am obsessed with making art (not every good art, but still). The fact that most of us will bust our asses trying to ensure we eat and can have a place to sleep, while someone can douse a canvas in blue and call it a day, making MILLIONS (!??!?!) just.. is a lot to process.
Maybe inspired by Clyfford Still, I bet they once imitate what they see on their camera they made or went outside and paint there. But then all of a sudden, they said f this and decided to experiment like a mad scientist. “I was going for a feeling,” they said. Even though their era of making realist painting is over some museums are willing to pay them a bargain of a COMMISSION from them to be displayed as a part of their exhibit.
as an artist I would genuinely pay 10,000 dollars just so you can pay off the art supplies and draw more cause I would love to see the improvement KFKFJFJ
"Nobody in the art world knows who you are and nobody will have any respect for what you do" Ok, good, so she knows exactly how the rest of the world looks at most of this expensive "art" 😂
@@ornament_and_crime What I want to know, it's something that he failed to ask, and that's why are the simplistic pieces that he showed earlier in the video considered so valuable when they are literally something anyone could do with a ruler and paint? Because that is what's so stupidly frustrating. Anybody can paint two blue rectangles, anybody can paint those three different colored rectangles on a square piece of paper...it just seems ridiculous to me.
@@kingblanketfort i mean it's in the title of the video - it's a scam, just a mutually and silently agreed upon one. the artist can just throw something up on a canvas and get a million dollars from a rich person who also wins by being able to avoid taxes. i mean i'm sure there are SOME who do try and actually make something that means. anything but still. just a mutually agreed scam
@@kingblanketfort But not anyone are taking molly with a curator. Most of modern art events curators are now a nlog uptown white young woman, who’s naive tunnel vision was flourished in daddyrich humanitarian unis, so some artists even may use their rioting need for liberating polyamory (shame on said artists, but hey, they gotta grind, amirite) Or at least you can think of sad story of your life or a flaming desire to celebrate your Rootz and Tradz (the actual piece’s idea is optional) Back then, in gen x days is pretty same, but easier - be hip and communist (at least you should say you are, actually believing and propagating those views are optional), go to underground art events, polishing with alcohol Backier then - from postmodern to post wwll - even easier, with no internet you are forced to participate in socializing with artists - so if one gets noticed by Senpai - maybe others will too befriend a patron in a cafe you all hang out Anyway most of high paid and popular modern artists, who are “in books” now are like rich jewish men (sometimes jewish women) so you can even skip the charm the curator part and go straight with moneys and nepo A more serious answer of why most of modern art so nonsensical an simplistic: is that modern artists (like art institutions artists, not crafts/cinema/gamedev/book etc artists) believe that art needs to be groundbreaking as in “inventing the -Ism” - so they just go full lobotomy and chasing their own Ism to be named after them, to stand out and be seen and picked and yadayada. So not art per se, more like wanting their name in web encyclopedia and most importantly - if they are lucky - predeath check There are of course really cool pieces of modern art and even minimalist abstract art, but like - not THOSE lol
I mean I think you proved your point. She said "...because nobody in the art world knows who you are, and nobody will have any respect for what you do" as hilarious as this was, I think it proves that you really need to be pretentious and have some sort of network to begin with. As I understand it, it's not much about the piece itself, it's much more about peoples egos. Sort of, I guess... I don't know tbh I just stopped smoking weed after 10 years and I think I'm gonna die from boredom
My favorite painting is "Pathetic Black Moon with Awful Vase with Dead Flowers in It" by Jonathan Winters. Google is having a hard time locating it, but it's a reddish orange backdrop with a solid black circle to one corner and in the center is a tiny boring vase with a singular dead flower in it. I am only interested in it for the backstory(and the name) but it was painted for the same reasons as this video. The artist saw "Titanium White with Dot" which is that singular red dot painting and decided to make an extremely low-effort painting of his own just to see if it would sell. And it did because the art world is just a bunch of bsing
It's always been my opinion that good art makes you feel something you want to preserve. (Anger and other purely negative emotions don't count. Bittersweet and other mixed emotions are valid.) For example, I never used to consider the urinal that the one guy signed as good art, because there really wasn't any creation, but I've come around to it because it makes me feel vindicated. His disgust with the art world made manifest, lol.
So a little story about that Cy Twombly. When I was just out of school there was a gallery that was doing a show on mid century art. As a laugh, I proposed that I could make that chalkboard piece for them. I had a nice sheet of plywood that I scavenged, some chalkboard paint, and chalk. It took more time for the paint to dry then it did to make the art. I did the circles backwards so, you know, it's not copying i guess. Turns out this lady buys it for $6,000, and I got half. Delivered it to her giant mansion. It's on the wall of her bedroom. I think about it every day.
art replicator is a real job apparently. not sure if it's legal, and it's not nearly as much as the original artist makes but you could totally do it!!
This may be a top ten tugg fave. The interview with a guest, the act of painting while ranting, going OUTSIDE? Quality and flavorful content. make more art dude, we will buy it.
As someone who doesn’t think art is just a scam, I actually do like the tree. My personal opinion is you either need to have strong lines, or have very blurry lines. I do like when you can make out a feature but it’s blurred with everything. Makes it *abstract* and tells a story, but also leaves it to the imagination. Just gives it that “mentally ill” feeling, like a sunrise, but contrasted with off colors because I’m depressed. You know?
@@wolfhawk69 no to what? Art is subjective and I love hearing other’s inputs and opinions. Without opinions and conversations, art is just pictures. So I love hearing people’s input on art.
@@wolfhawk69 oh, well I'm pretty much just talking about how a lot of artwork that depicts mental illness is usually blurred or uncanny in some way. Things like the album "Everywhere At The End Of Time" represents dementia and the slow progression into obscurity. Starts out melancholic and a bit empty, but by the end of it nothing seems right and it is chaotic. Just me admiring the art Big Tugg made. Might not be a million dollar piece of art work, but i feel like if he tried, it could really show some meaning. Not saying he'll be selling art for millions, but the best art isn't something you buy, but something you experience.
Based on your story and my weird mind, I would say the painting conveys how we are our own fears overbearing and blurring on what makes the world beautiful, as well as hiding from ourselves by blurry boundaries, showing fear, the beauty in nature, and self-induced depression. I don’t know what I wrote but it sounds nice.
I didn't agree with a lot of stuff you said but that's okay because I've since realised I do not care about having the same opinions as some guy on youtube I have nothing in common with (I still love you though). Also you came close to saying a lot of stuff I DO agree with which made me very happy! Such as the whole exclusionist thing because dear god... it also made me realise the majority of the art I like isn't usually the expensive ones? Which makes the whole thing about them being tax write-offs make SO much more sense, God.
I love both of them. She needs to just be a guest on his show once a month. And yes as a parent of an artist I have spent sooooo much money on her supplies and renovations on her room for her craft. She’s so talented but damn
I love "Untitled (name)" named art shit, cause the artist wants to seem aloof, but as an artist they still want recognition so they have to break the facade and make it recognizable, lol.
Hey, I walk dogs. I've done full solo shows, had gallery representation, been exhibited in Atlanta, NY, Portland (with a partner), ABQ, NOLA, others. I'm a printmaker, painter & performance artist. And I walk dogs. And you know what? I fuckin' love it. So much less stress, far fewer assholes, nearly no pretense.
Idk why some people are hating on Tugg but I'm an artist myself(not a big one)...I also don't like how absurdly priced art can get... Hope you continue this as a series... You just make my day better
Those "lazy" paintings are usually painted in a way to be interesting to look at irl. There are some that are so intense, the color seems to leak out, some with super detailed brushwork, etc. Probably not worth $1 million, but I think it's worth pointing out
Yeah, some of pieces by brought up in the video Rothko intended to be surrounded by - the chapel - like not one canvas, but the whole room with canvases and lights are a piece and experience by itself. Like it’s an okay design work, but still a hack by artistry standards
I’ve seen the Ellsworth Kelly piece in person as well as another, worse one of his called Blue Panel. He invented a new method of screen printing that he used for all his paintings, which is probably why he’s celebrated. But the paintings themselves still aren’t even remotely interesting in person. They’re just flat and boring
I actually really like the tree in the painting, the colors and the way in which they blend into each other is really pretty. I personally am a big fan of blurry or washed out shapes in paintings so that tree is right up my alley. Would unironically buy this if I had the money for it
I quit playing in bands for the exact reasons you stated at 8:00. I will gladly take my happy accidents and mostly share them with no one. This is a great video Tugg, nice job.
8:09 that is a cassowary, it is a direct descendant of the terror bird, also these things kill hundreds of people every year, but are only native to Papua New Guinea and Australia
Certified Snapple fact I went on vacation to Australia for a family vacation we went on a hike and was attacked by two one of which followed our car for like 10 min after
8:09 certified Snapple fact 8 was attacked by one of those large deamon birds while on a family vacation and it was 6 and a half fucking feet tall, truly the shaq of the bird world
My gf and I were playing price is right with you as you presented the prices of the art pieces and she almost nailed every single one while i flopped entirely and we were really excited to know how much your art supplies cost you and we NEED TO KNOW
A lot about the art world is needing to have one of these things: skill, connections, or luck. Networking is a huge thing in the art world because it gives you the opportunity to sell your artwork to rich people who pretend they understand art but just want to spend their money on something they can show off in their penthouses to guests.
I like looking at modern art (not in a museum - I did that once and got incredibly bored and felt out of place as a little peasant), and there is a lot of talent that goes into making some of them; the paints, time, and techniques used even for ones that are one block colour can be incredibly complex and difficult to recreate. Staring at a painting like that makes my brain go fuzzy and I get unnerved, like I'm having a monochrome existential crisis. BUT, the price and weird snobbery linked to them completely ruin everything I just said. Art shouldn't be judged; deemed bad if it doesn't meet certain visual standards or have some deep meaning behind it. People gotta stop buying art for millions/billions or dollars though, acting like they know anything about art XD
You talking to the art expert (Segalovich 🤔 i think that was her name), no joke, I had the biggest bemused grin on my face, struggling not to burst out laughing several times while i standing in line for coffee. You, BigTugg, are a goddamn treasure!
This pigeon is now your mascot and you have to make posters and clothes with him on it. Proposed names: Small Tugg Chief/Supreme Tuglet Pigeon (as non-creative as the names of the art)
You could totally sell that painting as "My frustration with the art worlds elitist nature and exclusionary practices towards the common artist, and barriers of entry like the cost of supplies and *need* to recoup costs"
With that backstory it would totally make bank
@@teicreatesI mean, a tragic story of a starving artist, languishing financially for his art? Yeah, that'd make bank!
How about "The Struggle of Ascent"?
Brilliant
I like this idea
Honestly I'd pay like $200 for it just for shits and giggles
Then I'd put it above my bed in the fanciest frame I can find and leave it there till I die.
Deadass I would pay $300 I love this man
I actually used to really enjoy art but I hate rich people contemporary art tbh like I'm too literal and stupid to understand why a yellow square is a comment on society and child abuse or smth so I support this cause
@@emmajewett4775
I agree
I refuse to believe that the Cy Twombly one went for that much holy hell
Did someone buy it? I will legit cash app right! I love it 😂
@teapotjim I don't think so. He might of been joking but I would also legit buy it
i would legit pay like 500 bucks. (all i have )
I actually consider this painting as true art - it’s an expression of your desire to break into the art world. The tree acts like a block preventing the pigeon from advancing into the art world. The pigeon appears to be levitating above the ground without working to move his wings: an unconscious expression on the desire to make easy money on art without working hard (like the blue square paintings).
That is actually amazing! I was thinking up my own stories and backgrounds for this, but I absolutely love yours!
Sold
this is genius
And this is why "art" is so difficult to define. The analysis was genius, I would say somehow leaning towards a psychological reading. Yet, it is nontheless an interpretation: your interpretation; which suddenly gave quite a deep meaning to the piece. The audience can be as actively involved in the providal of meaning as the artist that created the piece.
Womp womp
Tugg's experience with MREs must have ingrained in him the importance of leaning things up against a rock or something. That canvas will cook in no time.
What a callback
Let him cook 🔥🔥🔥
@@biggtugg callback mre vid wasnt even that long ago-
oh, you have 1m now wtf, and mre vid was 10 months ago? HUH
@@biggtugg love you bro you got me through a tough time
From my time eating MRE's in the military my favorite part is the bag saying or something
The true value of art is that feeling you had when the guy walking by said he liked it.
This 👆
exactly!! that moment made me so happy
will that also bring me millions of dollars??
@@fearlesstay No. You have to get a job for that, unless your daddy is rich.
The fact that she said the painting went from $10 to $300 with the mention of mental illness is the perfect demonstration of the scam at work 😂
the price jump wasn't from mental illness, it was the exclusivity of it being a 1m sub youtuber's first AND last piece
@@airsheepsexactly, he probably didnt watch the whole video..
of course she was a pronoun shaved head too
@@iGaveLiaHIV huh??
@@iGaveLiaHIVBigots try not to throw a tantrum over pronouns challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
If he were to make a T-shirt or a sweater with that drawing on it, I would buy it.
Me too! Honestly, I thought his drawing was really cute. Even that stranger liked it and offered him $200 for it.
Same.
It could have a silly phrase like "Don't ask me about my childhood fear of pigeons" and then the painting over the whole back
Same
Same! I could wear that to work
I'm an unuronic fan of modern art and I do agree that it's a scam. Like, I do actually like the paintings I just don't think they should be worth millions of dollars. But like, that's not the art's fault, it's the fault of the rich people buying art cause it's an investment or a tax write off and not cause they actually like or even understand it.
True!! Look at the blue painting for example. The artist worked months to get that exact shade of blue.
There is a difference between modern art and "ThiS mOdeRn AaAAAaaAaAaRt"
Yea, I’m in the same boat. Most pieces that are sold for so much are just used as tax right offs. That’s just objectively true, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t art. Lucifer by Jackson Pollock is a masterpiece, but it shouldn’t sell for 150 million dollars
Tax accountant here. Using paintings as a tax write off comes with some variables and can easily be fraudulent if mishandled. The rich are just weird, and there are better ways for them to avoid taxes anyway
@@Gihmpy we will take your word on it
The fact that, as soon as you asked how much it was worth, she asked you how much you've painted and how many people follow you should tell you that it's not about the art itself, it's about who you know and your reputation.
Please be careful, oil paint is super flammable and toxic to inhale. Keep it in a well ventilated area :)
Thanks for the tip jukebox! I live in a small unventilated apartment and this video was filmed in the past, so a little too late. But losing braincells is something im not a stragner too :)
Bro spelt stranger so wrong
@@azula8014he already lost too many braincells
@@biggtuggRest in piece the only iq left.
@@biggtugg its hard to tell if the misspelling of stranger is on purpose or dyslexia lol
I can't believe I could've gotten 70 million dollars for one of those sheets of paper that I immediately threw away in kindergarten.
Fr lmao
Bruh ikr! When I saw that I was like “wait a minute, I know that drawing…”
You just gave me a Slumdog Millionaire flashback LOL
As an artist, I can tell you pricing is as arbitrary as it gets. It really depends on your goal. Mine is to paint more and share the experience with other people. so I price my art on the lower end. I'd rather have my art on someone's wall than my drawer waiting to be sold at a higher price.
That's a good way to put it. I've seen this at local art places where you get pieces selling for a few dozen or couple hundred dollars. Yeah they make money, but there's also a community of artists who use the space to share that with people. I learned pottery and how to use one of those wheel things (i forgot what they are called lmao) from an artist there. That's an experience beyond money.
Unironically, the painting is good. Like compared to pieces I have seen selling thousands, it is easily on par. You would just need to make more like this one, open a gala in nyc, send out invites to a bunch of rich and famous people and probably buy some advert or put up signs, and all of a sudden you have a well sought after gala. Then you turn it into an auction with opening bidding at 1k.
It was better than blue yellow red
I actually really like it as a parody of what modern art is while being pleasant to look at.
You have a point, I could totally see some nepo baby making a series of paintings like this, telling the media it was about conservation or some shit, and making bank
Fr lol better than anything I could paint as a fellow non painter lol
@@OllieSD that was a masterpiece compared to the windows 11 logo ripoff
This painting for sure represents Big Pigeon energy. Pigeons always think that they are the most important animal and this painting perfectly encapsulates that idea.
I was actually able to write a bullshit narrative out of the painting
Pigeons are considered rats of the sky, but they used to be trained and domesticated so they could carry messages. But, now that we don’t need them for that, they’ve been swept under the rug, looked down upon. The empty look in the pigeons eyes encapsulate how unfair that is. It’s a commentary on how when humans no longer need something it becomes worthless, stupid and we look down upon it. A type of illustration on how consumerism has affected our lives.
@@IvysWhackedWonderland this is amazing!
@@sovereignbrehon why thank you, perhaps i could paint something similar and become a millionaire…
As a person who adores pigeons, I approve this reply section.
The guy at around 13:40 is an absolute legend. Get him into art appraisal immediately
As an artist, it does rlly disgust me whats happened to the art world. Its also annoying how people pay so much money for crap, people start to hate artists, and stop appreciating art that takes months and is really detailed, and not just a rectangle
Fr, modern art, at least the ones I’ve seen, I would describe as a pile of nothingness
Woah there. There were a few rectangles with a line through them.
I really like that theory thst modern art is a way to launder money, becsuse that's the only way it makes sense to me.
FRRR, I went to a little art exhibition and there was literally a scribble, that was it, a scribble💀 It went for 200,000 pounds
@@Lissbirdsit isn't a theory.
That's just what it is.
Privately owned modern art is 99% of the time owned for tax fraud and money laundering.
"Noboby wants to ruin their so-called reputation in the scam world by associating with a no-one." is what she meant but couldn't say.
Watching this reminds me of when the guy walked on that fashion show runway in a trash bag and everyone cheered until the security guards sprinted out and completely decked him
Tugg may not be pregnant but he never fails to deliver.
0:05 this furry might be though
Lol yes
This is the most insane thing I've ever read
@@GoobyGoblinIt is pregnant
Great grandpa joke🙄
I would absolutely love a series where he continues selling art and actually trying to make a living
Honestly, someone should get a famous artist to draw something, then try to sell the painting as their own, and when art snobs reject it, reveal who the artist behind it is.
I love this. It’s the inverse of what Payless did with the fake high end shoe store
YES THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN
As someone who has been trying to sell their art for years with no success this video has taught me that I simply need to go sit in the middle of a park with my art on display and I could potentially make rent this month. Unfortunately that would require me to go out in public and socialize with real human people face to face but hey at least I’ll have money
Definitely! I also recommend taking part in a local art fair if possible, it's intimidating for sure, but something about seeing the pieces in person and holding them makes people more likely to buy them. I myself have bought many more pieces in person than I ever have online. Plus it's nice to actually meet the artist face to face. I hope you have much luck in your journey!
There was actually a guy on one of those real estate reality TV series that made giant, abstract art and sold it on Bourbon Street in New Orleans as his job. His main job. Location, location, location.
Go ahead,the sheer horror of unwlling social...ation...lisation-been'round people in públic,will bring ya to your expressionist era.
Just be careful there are typically some laws on where and what you can sell in public spaces with or without permission or permits
You've got this!
Dude, make prints of that painting. I’d buy it and proudly hang it in my room. It gives me an intense feeling of joy that no painting has ever given me before.
thats what i'm saying
Genuinely, the first thing I thought when he showed it to the camera was "I have to have a print of that." I would buy it in a heartbeat. It's just so silly and muted lol I love it
I'd absolutely buy a print of that
13:30 Esa is the pigeon, by the tree, your creative mind is psychic!
I’m broke but I’ll totally pay $200, right now.
I think 'A Child Reflects - Pigeon and Tree' is a stellar example of late-Modern Outsider Art
This popped up in my recommended and I've just binged the entire channel as a result. Love the content man!
Isa was a lot cooler than I initially expected when he said he found an art expert. She seemed secure enough in her chosen profession to not flip out the moment someone dared to say something cynical about it. I have no respect at all for modern art, but at least there’s one person in that world who’s respectable. Lol
I thought she was awesome, so kind & diplomatic...well, except for that last remark, LOL
Oh its absolutely a scam. High art creators get with appraisers who inflate the prices to obscene numbers, which can then be used to launder money/use as tax write offs.
They'll also overpay for art from artists whose works they collect so that the established price of that artist's works goes up, increasing the value of the rest of their collection. A whole lot of monopoly abuse.
Buy one piece for $5000 and one piece for $20mil then donate both appraised at $40 million and write them off taxes. Easy peasy lemon squeezey.
She just ummm verified the elitism that exists in the art world.
Also, next time do acrylic. Oil paint has to dry in between and you have to layer it up. Acrylic dries quickly, blends well, and layers well. It is great for beginners like us. And it is significantly cheaper than oil and you can water it down to get whatever consistency and opaqueness you want. I love acrylic. Oil scares me. 😂
As an artist myself, the whole thing pisses me off. People can make anything and pass it off as "meangingful" art. Thank you for recognizing this
I could paint an eagle and and a pigeon together in a mest woth an egg and say “It shows that true beauty comes from abnormality, and by breaking the shackles of social norms we can create something magnificent” and it would sell for 2 mil if I had a decent following
right like most of the time I just think "bitch you weren't feeling or thinking shit when you were throwing paint at the canvas", as someone who paints I can tell you I'm not feeling anything meaningful while I listen to three podcasts completely unrelated to art to keep myself motivated
shut the beaker off
shut it
so it's meaningful when you do it, but not when another artist does it? is that how it works?
Actual artist here: The art itself isn't a scam, but what IS a scam are the gatekeepers who get to decide if something is valuable or not. Case and point: There is ALWAYS amazing art out there for sale for dirt cheap but if you go to a gallery - While some of that art is amazing, some of it is complete and utter garbage. I've been trying to figure out how to usurp the gatekeepers for decades...I'll let you know when I figure it out!
Please do
Watching this with subtitles is so much more fun. Not because there's secret messages (should clarify that there, unfortunately, aren't), but because its one in the morning and seeing UA-cam frantically type out an amalgamted version of Tugg's frustration is ridiculously funny to me.
your videos are, unironically, very therapeutic to me lmao. just the energy of your content gives off this passive aggressive "i'm tried of everything and i dont care anymore" and it seriously helps me out a lot, more than i'd like to admit. like i feel all pissed off rn cause im in a depressive episode but i just turn on the newest big tugg video and remind myself that life is a big shitpost and literally non of this matters! so thanks tugg!
same
i’m face buried in pillow on the side and typing w one thumb so i couldn’t write a bigger appreciation or agreement rn but yeah u put it perfectly for me
L pfp stop existing
Ignore the idiot with the brown pfp that responded to you. I, for one, love your profile picture.
Don't pay heed to the prick with the brown pfp, you deserve to exist ❤
Do you guys remember the children’s book where a girl has drawing block, draws dots, and becomes a famous artist?
I remember reading that book in art class in elementary school lol
I remember eating one of the pages because I hated it to much.
My art teacher made us paint dots and told us that we didn't draw the dots right
@@Lemon_da_cat mine had us draw the dots on plates, and we hung them all up in the library
@@squishybrrrrt that came out of literal nowhere, can't say i dont appreciate the grind tho
As an Artist, I 1,000,000% AGREE! I personally dont think art should be judged on things other than the art itself.
I love art, I appreciate modern art for its simplicity, and I appreciate abstract art for its chaos…that being said holy hell why the fuck was that 70 million dollars
Go look at the rest of his work
As someone who went to art school, I have never been more excited to hear your take on a subject. Spat facts sir 🙌🏼
I’m not a very emotional person, but when she asked what art is to you and you didn’t even hesitate “the Lego movie”, I literally cried laughing. I don’t think I’ve laughed that hard…ever.
HE AINT WRONG
When she mentioned how she could see the art interpreted as your fabricated story. That is when people will give value to art. They see the story they want or sometimes need, but thats when the bad people, take advantage of those emotions. Those are the people ruining art. Mona Lisa is priceless because of tbe culture around it. Not just tbe painter, not just the painting. Your painting is worth something because you genuinely tried. And it was an honest wholesome image. Art supplies (used) alone I'm sure where about 150 bucks. 200-300 dollars would be a fair price. Maybe more because of the fans, culture, around your work. 😊
Giant canvases are worth a fortune. I've looked into it to my my own art for my living room
@OdinsSage Yes. I said that. People only care about it because people care about it. 🤔
Your painting looks like it would fit next to a Shel Silverstein poem. It feels nostalgic to me, I genuinely love it. No I wouldn't pay a million dollars for it because I can't but I'd absolutely pay up to $40 for a print of it at HomeGoods. Great job!
I was trying to place it and you’re absolutely right! Total shel Silverstein vibes!
Even though you’re not an artist, it’s a really cute painting!! As an artist myself (hoping to be a character illustrator, mostly for comics) I think you did great for a beginner, good job Tugg!!
you know what's crazy, if you made the pigeon super duper small out of two black spheres looking up at the tree, it would probably be thousands of dollars.
I’m suprised that tugg didn’t bring up the dumbest form of “art” ✨NFTs✨
I mean this is a video about art
Not art. Unrelated.
I have a standing desk. I never stand at it, but I do adjust it by a few inches when I switch between typing and hand writing, it's pretty nice.
I am an art student and im so glad im not the only one who absolutely HATES artwork that is deemed amazing when its just A FUCKING YELLOW CANVAS! There are people actually trying and just because these people are famous art critis or whatever they get off with painting like newborns and i cant stand when my art teachers tell me there artwork is important no ma'am its shit im sorry 🙄
SAME though I'm not an art student, I am obsessed with making art (not every good art, but still). The fact that most of us will bust our asses trying to ensure we eat and can have a place to sleep, while someone can douse a canvas in blue and call it a day, making MILLIONS (!??!?!) just.. is a lot to process.
Maybe inspired by Clyfford Still, I bet they once imitate what they see on their camera they made or went outside and paint there. But then all of a sudden, they said f this and decided to experiment like a mad scientist. “I was going for a feeling,” they said.
Even though their era of making realist painting is over some museums are willing to pay them a bargain of a COMMISSION from them to be displayed as a part of their exhibit.
as an artist I would genuinely pay 10,000 dollars just so you can pay off the art supplies and draw more cause I would love to see the improvement KFKFJFJ
fucking same, if i were in that park that day and had the cash on me i'd give him 500 bucks on the spot for it
“Dude, or dudette or non-binary dudeorino”
Love that sm
"Nobody in the art world knows who you are and nobody will have any respect for what you do"
Ok, good, so she knows exactly how the rest of the world looks at most of this expensive "art" 😂
Haha indeed i do! XD
@@ornament_and_crime What I want to know, it's something that he failed to ask, and that's why are the simplistic pieces that he showed earlier in the video considered so valuable when they are literally something anyone could do with a ruler and paint? Because that is what's so stupidly frustrating. Anybody can paint two blue rectangles, anybody can paint those three different colored rectangles on a square piece of paper...it just seems ridiculous to me.
@@kingblanketfort i mean it's in the title of the video - it's a scam, just a mutually and silently agreed upon one. the artist can just throw something up on a canvas and get a million dollars from a rich person who also wins by being able to avoid taxes.
i mean i'm sure there are SOME who do try and actually make something that means. anything but still. just a mutually agreed scam
@@kingblanketfort But not anyone are taking molly with a curator.
Most of modern art events curators are now a nlog uptown white young woman, who’s naive tunnel vision was flourished in daddyrich humanitarian unis, so some artists even may use their rioting need for liberating polyamory (shame on said artists, but hey, they gotta grind, amirite)
Or at least you can think of sad story of your life or a flaming desire to celebrate your Rootz and Tradz (the actual piece’s idea is optional)
Back then, in gen x days is pretty same, but easier - be hip and communist (at least you should say you are, actually believing and propagating those views are optional), go to underground art events, polishing with alcohol
Backier then - from postmodern to post wwll - even easier, with no internet you are forced to participate in socializing with artists - so if one gets noticed by Senpai - maybe others will too befriend a patron in a cafe you all hang out
Anyway most of high paid and popular modern artists, who are “in books” now are like rich jewish men (sometimes jewish women) so you can even skip the charm the curator part and go straight with moneys and nepo
A more serious answer of why most of modern art so nonsensical an simplistic: is that modern artists (like art institutions artists, not crafts/cinema/gamedev/book etc artists) believe that art needs to be groundbreaking as in “inventing the -Ism” - so they just go full lobotomy and chasing their own Ism to be named after them, to stand out and be seen and picked and yadayada. So not art per se, more like wanting their name in web encyclopedia and most importantly - if they are lucky - predeath check
There are of course really cool pieces of modern art and even minimalist abstract art, but like - not THOSE lol
I mean I think you proved your point. She said "...because nobody in the art world knows who you are, and nobody will have any respect for what you do" as hilarious as this was, I think it proves that you really need to be pretentious and have some sort of network to begin with. As I understand it, it's not much about the piece itself, it's much more about peoples egos.
Sort of, I guess... I don't know tbh I just stopped smoking weed after 10 years and I think I'm gonna die from boredom
My favorite painting is "Pathetic Black Moon with Awful Vase with Dead Flowers in It" by Jonathan Winters. Google is having a hard time locating it, but it's a reddish orange backdrop with a solid black circle to one corner and in the center is a tiny boring vase with a singular dead flower in it. I am only interested in it for the backstory(and the name) but it was painted for the same reasons as this video. The artist saw "Titanium White with Dot" which is that singular red dot painting and decided to make an extremely low-effort painting of his own just to see if it would sell. And it did because the art world is just a bunch of bsing
The way he said he knew who that was and she just accepted it was beyond amazing @11:30
Everything can be art. Not everything can be good art.
that's what i always say 😁
exactly
Good art is also subjective though
It's always been my opinion that good art makes you feel something you want to preserve. (Anger and other purely negative emotions don't count. Bittersweet and other mixed emotions are valid.)
For example, I never used to consider the urinal that the one guy signed as good art, because there really wasn't any creation, but I've come around to it because it makes me feel vindicated. His disgust with the art world made manifest, lol.
Like Jackson Pollocks
I actually kinda love it!! Good job, dude!!
I actually really like the pigon painting. It's weirdly sad and silly at the same time.
So a little story about that Cy Twombly. When I was just out of school there was a gallery that was doing a show on mid century art. As a laugh, I proposed that I could make that chalkboard piece for them. I had a nice sheet of plywood that I scavenged, some chalkboard paint, and chalk. It took more time for the paint to dry then it did to make the art. I did the circles backwards so, you know, it's not copying i guess. Turns out this lady buys it for $6,000, and I got half. Delivered it to her giant mansion. It's on the wall of her bedroom. I think about it every day.
art replicator is a real job apparently. not sure if it's legal, and it's not nearly as much as the original artist makes but you could totally do it!!
Lmao that's insane. Gg tho
This may be a top ten tugg fave. The interview with a guest, the act of painting while ranting, going OUTSIDE? Quality and flavorful content. make more art dude, we will buy it.
I love how he didn’t have any sponsers on the first videos but now he gets them. I am so glad of how far he has come!
WoW 420 likes thanks tugglets!
Thank you for the reply
-Tuckers management team (Josh)
He did say that his ultimate goal was to sell out. Living the dream baby!
As someone who doesn’t think art is just a scam, I actually do like the tree.
My personal opinion is you either need to have strong lines, or have very blurry lines.
I do like when you can make out a feature but it’s blurred with everything. Makes it *abstract* and tells a story, but also leaves it to the imagination. Just gives it that “mentally ill” feeling, like a sunrise, but contrasted with off colors because I’m depressed. You know?
No
@@wolfhawk69 no to what? Art is subjective and I love hearing other’s inputs and opinions. Without opinions and conversations, art is just pictures. So I love hearing people’s input on art.
@@congruentcrib as in I dont understand what ur saying
@@wolfhawk69 oh, well I'm pretty much just talking about how a lot of artwork that depicts mental illness is usually blurred or uncanny in some way. Things like the album "Everywhere At The End Of Time" represents dementia and the slow progression into obscurity. Starts out melancholic and a bit empty, but by the end of it nothing seems right and it is chaotic.
Just me admiring the art Big Tugg made. Might not be a million dollar piece of art work, but i feel like if he tried, it could really show some meaning. Not saying he'll be selling art for millions, but the best art isn't something you buy, but something you experience.
What about AI art? I like AI art.
Big props to that guy at the end of the video who said he would pay 200 bucks for Tuggs Painting
But did he?
Can’t put into words how much your videos have helped me so I’ll just say this thank you far all that you do ❤
Based on your story and my weird mind, I would say the painting conveys how we are our own fears overbearing and blurring on what makes the world beautiful, as well as hiding from ourselves by blurry boundaries, showing fear, the beauty in nature, and self-induced depression. I don’t know what I wrote but it sounds nice.
Make t-shirts with the painting printed on it as merch, you'll probably sell enough to get your money back on those paint supplies!
I didn't agree with a lot of stuff you said but that's okay because I've since realised I do not care about having the same opinions as some guy on youtube I have nothing in common with (I still love you though). Also you came close to saying a lot of stuff I DO agree with which made me very happy! Such as the whole exclusionist thing because dear god... it also made me realise the majority of the art I like isn't usually the expensive ones? Which makes the whole thing about them being tax write-offs make SO much more sense, God.
I love both of them. She needs to just be a guest on his show once a month. And yes as a parent of an artist I have spent sooooo much money on her supplies and renovations on her room for her craft. She’s so talented but damn
I have mad respect for her, she’s real.
hands down, 10/10 ad segue, best I've seen in weeks. I hope fortunes finds you personally and financially for your service to the zeitgeist.
I love "Untitled (name)" named art shit, cause the artist wants to seem aloof, but as an artist they still want recognition so they have to break the facade and make it recognizable, lol.
"Guess that obscene prize" is my favorite game show.
Honestly, I'm surprised you don't have merch currently. I'd definitely buy this as a shirt!
Isa is great! I'm glad you worked with her. She has really interesting takes on how colonialism and western hegemony have twisted the art world.
Of course she has
@@wmurdI love your comment. That word vomit up there should be forgotten
@@yemiadeshokan7883dawg what
@@wmurd you can tell by her haircut what her beliefs are lol
Chapo enjoyer for sure
Me after studying art to get into an arts school just to draw foxes and little forest guys:
Mood
Hey, I walk dogs. I've done full solo shows, had gallery representation, been exhibited in Atlanta, NY, Portland (with a partner), ABQ, NOLA, others. I'm a printmaker, painter & performance artist. And I walk dogs.
And you know what? I fuckin' love it. So much less stress, far fewer assholes, nearly no pretense.
Idk why some people are hating on Tugg but I'm an artist myself(not a big one)...I also don't like how absurdly priced art can get... Hope you continue this as a series... You just make my day better
The people hating are mad cause he's right.
Those "lazy" paintings are usually painted in a way to be interesting to look at irl. There are some that are so intense, the color seems to leak out, some with super detailed brushwork, etc. Probably not worth $1 million, but I think it's worth pointing out
Yeah, some of pieces by brought up in the video Rothko intended to be surrounded by - the chapel - like not one canvas, but the whole room with canvases and lights are a piece and experience by itself. Like it’s an okay design work, but still a hack by artistry standards
I’ve seen the Ellsworth Kelly piece in person as well as another, worse one of his called Blue Panel. He invented a new method of screen printing that he used for all his paintings, which is probably why he’s celebrated. But the paintings themselves still aren’t even remotely interesting in person. They’re just flat and boring
Those lazy paintings are still stupid
It's worth 3 million dude. Don't let her lie to you. It's ART
Yah slap that on a digital store front for 1 dollar and if each of us buys it… BAM! there’s a few million
I actually really like the tree in the painting, the colors and the way in which they blend into each other is really pretty.
I personally am a big fan of blurry or washed out shapes in paintings so that tree is right up my alley.
Would unironically buy this if I had the money for it
Def deserves 1mil 100% the story behind it beautiful!!
This is the only time my notifications actually tell me when a video is posted. Maybe tugg has magic.
Yooooo I love that painting it's heckin awesome! Please make prints in your merch store
13:45 “no fucking way”
3 pennies, some mud, and a leaf. Final offer 14:12
Remember kids have a tragic story and that triples the value of your art but if that doesn’t work then just be a famous artist to get more money.
How dare they call that painting trash! IT'S A MASTERPIECE! Worth at least 100000000000000$
10:55 Tugg’s “ah” meaning “idk I was fucking around”
I quit playing in bands for the exact reasons you stated at 8:00. I will gladly take my happy accidents and mostly share them with no one.
This is a great video Tugg, nice job.
Ok but like that was the one UA-camr sponsorship that I watched all the way through and was genuinely somewhat entertaining. This man is a magician
8:09 that is a cassowary, it is a direct descendant of the terror bird, also these things kill hundreds of people every year, but are only native to Papua New Guinea and Australia
If you call me nerd for knowing this, I will unleash the cassowaries in my backyard. Yes there are cassowaries in my backyard
@@emmanuelmadla9921ner-
Certified Snapple fact I went on vacation to Australia for a family vacation we went on a hike and was attacked by two one of which followed our car for like 10 min after
8:09 certified Snapple fact 8 was attacked by one of those large deamon birds while on a family vacation and it was 6 and a half fucking feet tall, truly the shaq of the bird world
10:29 I'm with you there! That movie is art.
My gf and I were playing price is right with you as you presented the prices of the art pieces and she almost nailed every single one while i flopped entirely and we were really excited to know how much your art supplies cost you and we NEED TO KNOW
5:50 As an asexual artist, awareness is cool and all, but I promise we don’t need the awareness that badly.
Real, I'd rather us be as invisible as we normally are than have someone act like a lunatic just to say "lookie here".
Yes we just want people to leave us alone
Just leave us alone. We don’t need people to raise awareness for us. We are HUMAN BEINGS, not a shitty person’s art piece.
well im a green bean
Went with my family to the VMFA. The Modern art section had two planks of plywood painted white, only on the front, nailed together in a cross.
A lot about the art world is needing to have one of these things: skill, connections, or luck.
Networking is a huge thing in the art world because it gives you the opportunity to sell your artwork to rich people who pretend they understand art but just want to spend their money on something they can show off in their penthouses to guests.
I like looking at modern art (not in a museum - I did that once and got incredibly bored and felt out of place as a little peasant), and there is a lot of talent that goes into making some of them; the paints, time, and techniques used even for ones that are one block colour can be incredibly complex and difficult to recreate. Staring at a painting like that makes my brain go fuzzy and I get unnerved, like I'm having a monochrome existential crisis. BUT, the price and weird snobbery linked to them completely ruin everything I just said. Art shouldn't be judged; deemed bad if it doesn't meet certain visual standards or have some deep meaning behind it. People gotta stop buying art for millions/billions or dollars though, acting like they know anything about art XD
"as a little peasant" 💀
i must say, if there was no pigeon in the art, it
would probably be worth $50 million
7:24 "MACHINE, STANDING TABLE, NOW."
*MACHINE... I'M GOING TO COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND SHOW YOU THE TRUE HAND OF GOD: THIS STANDING DESK!*
BEHOLD, THE POWER OF A STANDING DESK
14:00 eh, best i can do is 15 pink starbursts and a pack of skittles
a quarter eaten pack of jolly ranchers
I love how honest she is 😂
You talking to the art expert (Segalovich 🤔 i think that was her name), no joke, I had the biggest bemused grin on my face, struggling not to burst out laughing several times while i standing in line for coffee.
You, BigTugg, are a goddamn treasure!
8:55 oh thats a tree? I thought the poor guy witness a neuclear holocost
PLS I’M CRYING
💀💀💀💀
SAME
The stranger is one of my favorite albums. I'm glad Tugg made a reference to it.
This pigeon is now your mascot and you have to make posters and clothes with him on it.
Proposed names:
Small Tugg
Chief/Supreme Tuglet
Pigeon (as non-creative as the names of the art)