ratings are b*llsh*t and why (selecting vintages and objectivity)

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  • @Blue28485
    @Blue28485 3 роки тому +5

    Hope Patrick and the family are well in this holiday season. No matter what he decides to do with the channel/etc, hope he remembers that he left so much lasting positive impact on how people experience wine - watching him discuss wine, family, and life at large was just so much joy for me and I will always miss that.

  • @박시현-g7u
    @박시현-g7u 8 місяців тому +4

    최근에 첫 영상부터 시작해서 전부 시청햇네요. 다들 너무 좋은 영상이였고, 유튜부라는 플랫폼이 있는 세대라 다행입니다. 마지막 영상이라니 아쉽네요. 언젠가 돌아오실 날을 기대하면 구독 눌러놓고 기다리겠습니다

    • @KDA_Ahri
      @KDA_Ahri 8 місяців тому +1

      이미 돌아오셨어요 @winekingsWM

    • @히히뿡-h9o
      @히히뿡-h9o 5 місяців тому

      ​@@KDA_Ahri저 아이디는 유튜브 아이디입니까

  • @Helium3Fusion
    @Helium3Fusion 3 роки тому +20

    I’m 37 years old, started drinking wine at 21, which was primarily $2 buck chuck from Trader Joe’s while going to school in San Diego. After 10 years of California living I thought I had grown in wine knowledge which really just meant I drank Pinot Noir from Sonoma Coast and Cabs from Napa. The past several years my palette has discovered the old world and a huge diversity of grape varietals and have started a collection in a modest cellar. Besides drinking these wonderful wines, it is the educational side of understanding where the grapes come from, the wine making process, and the history that intrigues me the most. Wine tasting has actually opened up my smell and tasting senses far greater than when I just drank the stuff to get drunk. It has really been a fun journey and I’m only scratching the surface. Saying all that because I wanted to share a piece of my story, because now discovering Pat, Peter, and Jay on UA-cam has really helped inspire me to further develop this knowledge. Appreciate all the work you do in putting these videos together. If I still lived in CA I would def drop by for a visit or a class and a glass :)

    • @runnerofthewoods7774
      @runnerofthewoods7774 2 роки тому

      I really prefer old world. That may change, but I don't regret the money I spend on French and Italian wines. The latter, especially, have been a revelation.

    • @Helium3Fusion
      @Helium3Fusion 11 місяців тому

      @matsalvatore9074just Saperavi so far

  • @zacarytobia6466
    @zacarytobia6466 2 роки тому +6

    Hi Pat. My name is Zach and I am a WSET Diploma student. I am happy to see you again on UA-cam. I did not know you had a channel. I was wondering why you were not with WINEKING anymore, but now I see why you are not. I think you are a gifted taster. You are much more precise than many other tasters that I see online. Please continue to make video.

  • @oyc2220
    @oyc2220 2 роки тому +4

    we are still waiting!
    선생님 아직 기다리고 있어요!!

  • @thepauljones
    @thepauljones Рік тому +4

    Pat, for what it's worth you're one of my favourite voices in wine and I find it a shame that your content seems to have dried up somewhat. I hope to see more. Would really love some blind tasting content. Best wishes from Amsterdam.

  • @youngjunlee1515
    @youngjunlee1515 3 роки тому +3

    Whats up? New episode is not uploded😭 for one month

  • @grenmoyo3968
    @grenmoyo3968 3 місяці тому

    Discussions being made @2:52 are why i went to him and Peter for info and got me so engaged last that last weekend i myself started going down the WSET path and completed my level 1.

  • @jakemeh3492
    @jakemeh3492 3 роки тому +2

    I'm recently got interested in tasting wine and I can find so much intellectual info from this channel. Really appreciated.

  • @jackjack-qd3rg
    @jackjack-qd3rg 3 роки тому +2

    what do you think of israeli wine ?

  • @daneaucker247
    @daneaucker247 3 роки тому +2

    Pat what’s the story behind the legs or tears of wine after swirling in the glass? Does it really indicate alcohol level? I’m sure you’ve mentioned it before in another video but I can’t recall.
    Thanks!

  • @sommeliermicheleorbolato9896
    @sommeliermicheleorbolato9896 3 роки тому +4

    I agree Pat 120% in all the lines! Definitely nowadays finding honest scores is very difficult! However, often points work only for consumers that don't have an opinion!

  • @alexcan669
    @alexcan669 3 роки тому +3

    More videos please I love your videos. I would love to sign up for your virtual classes. These videos are so informative!

  • @travioh
    @travioh 3 роки тому +3

    As a marketing researcher, I'm intrigued to get my hands on some data to track wine scores (from critics), from crowdsourced scores, and outcome variables such as price/sales. I'm all for wine schools, academies, or clubs :) Sign me up! Absolutely agree that one should not be judgmental about a person's wine preferences.

  • @funsvlog7954
    @funsvlog7954 2 роки тому +1

    no more update? dont see you in jays channel anymore.. hope you are well

  • @VektrumSimulacrum
    @VektrumSimulacrum 3 роки тому +2

    I've found I look more at the information on the bottle and see If I can find it on a map first far more often than some kind of rating number. Its turned out alright for the most part.

  • @vikramprakash
    @vikramprakash 3 роки тому +2

    Yayyyyy was looking forward to this!!! Thanks so much Pat!!

  • @amoswaranch1102
    @amoswaranch1102 3 роки тому +13

    Pat is so incredibly knowledgeable. If I was in California I might seriously take you up on the lessons or club idea. Do more Q&As! Teach us more about how to shop for wine at specialty stores! How about "Master of Wine goes shopping at Total Wine"?

  • @Sam-nb1rm
    @Sam-nb1rm 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Pat you still uploading?

  • @danielescalante304
    @danielescalante304 3 роки тому +2

    Dr Farrel, hope everything ok, hope you are filming more videos

  • @marcusvandenbroek8957
    @marcusvandenbroek8957 3 роки тому +2

    Dear Pat. I quote: "My view on points...., b*llsh*t". That is a very clear statement! You don't make friends, i write with a wink. Fortunately, you nuance that statement. Sometimes you just need to be clear. Especially when it comes to point scores. And i agree with you, point scores are often subjectief. And opinions on a wine in general. They can serve as a tool, no more, no less! The solution, develop your own taste and opinion. What the beautiful story of Houston Haynes told. Worth mentioning. I have had chateau Meyney 1992 (difficult year, WS 83 points.) in my winecellar for 20 years. In one word, beautifully developed (For lovers of light & elegant old Bordeaux). By the way, nice jazzy music at the end of the video!

  • @arufahc
    @arufahc 3 роки тому

    Where are you going to run your wine club? I'm in the bay area and wants to get deeper into wine. I'm a self learner with 10 years experience and really want to learn more!

  • @billpurcell3551
    @billpurcell3551 3 роки тому +1

    Wine shopping in the state of Pennsylvania is really difficult. State run stores with only a handful being "premium" stores with better wine selections. Although I don't place a great deal of importance on scores there are times when I'm blind shopping with limited selections and it gives me a slight advantage to one over the other. The only other options are a Vivino scan or a detailed shelf talker.

  • @김성현-v4h2z
    @김성현-v4h2z 3 роки тому +1

    If Pat does a wine class on UA-cam, there might be like a couple thousand new MWs per year.

  • @macdaddymgiarc
    @macdaddymgiarc 3 роки тому +5

    Great video - thank you for your invaluable insight into this industry. I appreciate the honest candor as much as the detail. Please keep going for all of us fans!

  • @TheSommNextDoor
    @TheSommNextDoor 3 роки тому +1

    It doesn't matter if the wine has a score of 89. All that matters is whether YOU like the wine. PERIODT

  • @motorcycle-HRZ
    @motorcycle-HRZ Рік тому +3

    패트릭 잘 지내고 계신가요?

  • @박상준-r5e6j
    @박상준-r5e6j 2 роки тому +3

    I miss you, Patrick!

  • @yjh7944
    @yjh7944 Рік тому +1

    I'm so looking forward to seeing your neeeeew contents again. As I heard you rejoined with peter lol. WoW It's hard to wait for the best wine content.😅

  • @oyc2220
    @oyc2220 Рік тому +1

    We are still waiting for you, master❤

  • @joantrendafilov7963
    @joantrendafilov7963 3 роки тому

    Hello Pat. I am curious to learn about how could you describe the aging potential of a wine.

  • @ccuellar6212
    @ccuellar6212 3 роки тому +1

    I think finding a rating source that matches your tastes for the most part, can be a good guide. Same goes for movie reviewers.

  • @kennethquirosreyes2713
    @kennethquirosreyes2713 3 роки тому +2

    The unoaked Selyem Chard is good stuff. The 97 monte bellos are drinking beautifully. I got a case. Also MB 2013 historic vines 🍷🍷
    I’d be interested in your wine school Dr. Pat.

  • @kpaby8603
    @kpaby8603 2 роки тому +1

    Where is him...

  • @tjoh374
    @tjoh374 2 роки тому +2

    Pat Where R U?

  • @TheSommNextDoor
    @TheSommNextDoor 3 роки тому +5

    Yes thank you Dr. Farrell!! Ratings are all BS. I remember a winemaker told me that you could send your wine to several reviewers and you can slap on the highest score and ignore the others.

  • @Michaelcoffee
    @Michaelcoffee 2 роки тому

    Sometime, I want to know infusion and fermentation comparing :-) because coffee industry they are using differently.

  • @녹차빙수-v2y
    @녹차빙수-v2y Рік тому +2

    패트릭 선생님께서 돌아오시길 기다립니다❤

  • @fnherzog
    @fnherzog Рік тому +2

    Love your content. Would be awesome if you made some tasting videos with Peter

  • @ssagiman
    @ssagiman Рік тому +3

    패트릭 아조씨 건강하시고 새해 복 많이 받으시고 영상좀 찍어주세요!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @georgek.1498
    @georgek.1498 3 роки тому +2

    Enjoyed this video and the format.

  • @ChrisCrutchfield
    @ChrisCrutchfield 3 роки тому +2

    That Kabaj Rebula is a wonderful wine (although it wasn't featured in this video)

  • @dongne7
    @dongne7 3 роки тому +5

    0:50 맞는 말씀입니다^^ 저는 제가 좋아하는 와인 찾아가는 중입니다

  • @danf321
    @danf321 3 роки тому +1

    Some wine rating experts will rate a wine at let’s say, 95 pts., based on drinking the wine 2-5 years from now. How can someone taste how good a wine will be in the future?

    • @joantrendafilov7963
      @joantrendafilov7963 3 роки тому

      Its hard to predict that, but what you could potentially guess is the aging potential, based on levels of tannins, acidity, alcohol and body.

  • @하린-w4s
    @하린-w4s 3 роки тому +2

    패트릭 어디갔어요 영상 업로드해주세요!

    • @thekoreanwineambassador1491
      @thekoreanwineambassador1491 3 роки тому +2

      패트릭은 현재 유튜브를 떠나서 잠시 휴식기간을 갖고 있습니다. 그 기간동안은 채널이 중단될 예정입니다

    • @dbwjd9999
      @dbwjd9999 Рік тому

      ​@@thekoreanwineambassador1491ㅠㅠㅠ

  • @kg_tempest4706
    @kg_tempest4706 3 роки тому

    Dr Farrell MW big fan with one big question. Why don’t you make any videos with Jaywineking and Peter anymore ?

  • @Briax89
    @Briax89 2 роки тому +2

    Patrick, are you still there? 🤔

  • @garrettjanssen7683
    @garrettjanssen7683 3 роки тому +1

    I can't speak about their advertising in-magazine but Wine & Spirits reviews samples blind. As far as wine ratings go from publications, I hold them in high regard.

  • @vikramprakash
    @vikramprakash 3 роки тому +2

    Id love to also attending a wine school with you pat!!! I'm in Europe so would love to attend virtually

  • @yzho105
    @yzho105 2 роки тому +3

    at 7.40 the wife said somthing about you are the only one who is making objective comments and not trying to sell wine reveals she is not friendly with wine king any more. Such a strong comment clearly. And Why is the channel suddenly died around 1 year ago?

    • @yzho105
      @yzho105 2 роки тому

      @@dontwatchlongtime4688 sorry. its 2:30. i dont know why i wrote it wrong. check it out

    • @yzho105
      @yzho105 2 роки тому +2

      @@dontwatchlongtime4688 wineking is not fun anymore. the main reason for its success is peter. his charisma

  • @성이름-v9m2u
    @성이름-v9m2u 2 роки тому

    8:06 i love it ❤

  • @dimas2672
    @dimas2672 2 роки тому +3

    So we all know that - the question is where is Pat?

  • @dbwjd9999
    @dbwjd9999 Рік тому +1

    Im still waiting Patrick 😢

  • @hyunjunewoo1114
    @hyunjunewoo1114 3 роки тому +2

    Since I am planning to move to California next year(for taking class for diploma), it would be great to join your club😋
    'We can travel in time' I wish I can be good enough for tasting to catch them too(which is too toughhh)

  • @dobiel7012
    @dobiel7012 3 роки тому +3

    I'm impressed you don't pursue commercial ad from wineshop or distributor! so you're not biased and I can trust your opnion. Thank you for your kindness.
    I'm from korea and I always watch your videos not wineking channel :)

  • @이동엽-e9n
    @이동엽-e9n Рік тому +2

    Come back!!

  • @SJ-kd7cv
    @SJ-kd7cv Рік тому

    Miss you Dr. Pat.

  • @MDL-lw9my
    @MDL-lw9my Рік тому

    I too love Ridge Monte Bello and am in the Collector program. What an outstanding wine! Cheers 🥂

  • @jcre2000
    @jcre2000 3 роки тому +2

    Video idea, “why I’m not on the winking channel anymore” boom! 100k… you are welcome

  • @릿지-r7s
    @릿지-r7s 3 роки тому +2

    각종 평론기관들 빈티지 차트를 쭉 훑다가 궁금한게 생겼는데요.
    파커 차트에서는 버건디 화이트 점수(16,05빈티지)가 80점대가 있는데, 다른 기관 차트에서는 상당히 좋게 나와 있더라구요 왜 이렇게 차이가 나는지 궁금합니당..

    • @thekoreanwineambassador1491
      @thekoreanwineambassador1491 3 роки тому

      아무래도 개인의 입맛 차이겠지요. 너무 익은 와인/풀바디의 와인을 좋아하는 파커 스타일에게는 섬세한 와인은 맛이 없게 느껴질 수도 있을것 같습니다^^

  • @samirsajwani8807
    @samirsajwani8807 3 роки тому

    Where are you doc missing you

  • @홍서호-y2l
    @홍서호-y2l 2 роки тому

    Missing you with wineking so much... it was happy for me... have good day p.t

  • @oyc2220
    @oyc2220 Рік тому +1

    아직....기다리고...있습니다...

  • @성이름-v9m2u
    @성이름-v9m2u 2 роки тому

    miss youuuu 🥺

  • @yoyoyong211
    @yoyoyong211 6 місяців тому

    You should reconnect with Jay/Peter, and bury whatever hatchet there is. All would win. Was curious why you weren't in Korea with Peter, you should go Doctor Pat.

  • @김정웅-b2q
    @김정웅-b2q 3 роки тому

    요즘 왜 영상이 안올라오나요?

  • @dribmania7895
    @dribmania7895 Рік тому +1

    We are waiting for you

  • @1sec19F
    @1sec19F 3 роки тому +2

    The score doesn't matter 😇👍

    • @ccuellar6212
      @ccuellar6212 3 роки тому +1

      I bet you believe her when she says size doesn’t matter too.

    • @1sec19F
      @1sec19F 3 роки тому

      @@ccuellar6212 🤣🤣🤣

  • @psschroe42
    @psschroe42 3 роки тому +1

    I have a double magnum of Chardonnay from 1992

  • @gagamba9198
    @gagamba9198 3 роки тому +2

    What happened to this channel? Hope Pat is OK.

  • @tcybam
    @tcybam 2 роки тому +2

    이제 완전 안하셔요?

  • @hyun-wookkim3932
    @hyun-wookkim3932 3 роки тому +1

    Hello Doctor,
    We are also waiting for answers to community board questions~ :)

  • @황서현-y6l3h
    @황서현-y6l3h Рік тому

    I want you to come back(with jay)

  • @niklasjansson8299
    @niklasjansson8299 3 роки тому +1

    Would be nice if you did some Port wine or Sauternes. Too little information on dessert wine.

  • @진현우-z2r
    @진현우-z2r 3 роки тому +3

    최고의 빈티지라고 하는 특징도 사실은 취향에 따라서 변화하는 것이었군요!
    또 하나의 중요한 객관적인 사실을 알려주신 패트릭 스승님 최고에요~👍👍

  • @danielescalante304
    @danielescalante304 3 роки тому +2

    Yes they are BS

  • @구르마도리
    @구르마도리 3 роки тому +9

    진정한 와인채널이다

  • @vinovin7977
    @vinovin7977 3 роки тому

    when come back i wait so long~~~~~~~~~~~

  • @Ra0529
    @Ra0529 3 роки тому +1

    I miss your video!!!

  • @kpaby8603
    @kpaby8603 Рік тому +1

    I know you took some contents few ago. let'me see!!

  • @jaecheokkim99
    @jaecheokkim99 3 роки тому +1

    Waiting new video!!!

  • @seanbell4203
    @seanbell4203 3 роки тому

    Pat kind of reminds me of actor Chris Eigeman, another good looking guy.

  • @bruno3033
    @bruno3033 3 роки тому +1

    Channel appears to be dead

  • @Robin-tn4ix
    @Robin-tn4ix 3 роки тому +4

    영상에서 와이프가 평론가중 유일하게
    다른곳에서 와인을 팔고나 사업에 이용하지 않는다고 하는데 그건 맞는밀이지만 본인들의 목표는 와인클럽이나 교육을 하고 싶다라고 한건 결국 영향력을 키워서 다른걸 하고 싶다는건데 결국 그게 그거 아닌지....

  • @verybigbuger
    @verybigbuger 2 роки тому

    Super like this video!!

  • @scipio9292
    @scipio9292 3 роки тому +1

    안녕하세요~~hello from Korea

  • @MichaelG1986
    @MichaelG1986 3 роки тому

    You really need to improve how you mic your videos. Good information, but it's really hard to hear what you're saying.

  • @aglio4042
    @aglio4042 3 роки тому +5

    이거 질문하는 남자분 하이스쿨 무비에서 금발 여자애들이 쓸 것 같은 말투하시는거 먼가 재미짐 ㅋㅋ

    • @thekoreanwineambassador1491
      @thekoreanwineambassador1491 3 роки тому +1

      ㅎㅎ 저는 어디 동부에서 학교나오신분 같아서 영어 잘하신다고 생각했어요🤗

  • @iCrea7ive
    @iCrea7ive 3 роки тому +6

    I have followed your videos since the very first one you released, loved every single one but this one. WineKing basically gave you the audience you have & you're outright bashing him & Peter? Just sucks to see.

  • @박유선-h3h
    @박유선-h3h Рік тому

    왜 그는 와인킹과 영상을 찍지 않지?ㅠㅠ

  • @황모세-f3f
    @황모세-f3f 3 роки тому +1

    영상이 안올라오시네

    • @thekoreanwineambassador1491
      @thekoreanwineambassador1491 3 роки тому

      안타깝게도 패트릭이 영상촬영에서 휴식을 원하셔서 채널운영이 잠시 중단되었습니다.

  • @Daisy-td1jn
    @Daisy-td1jn 3 роки тому +1

    !^^!

  • @oyc2220
    @oyc2220 3 роки тому

    선생님...언제 오시나요 ㅠ

  • @ccuellar6212
    @ccuellar6212 2 роки тому +4

    RIP Pat.

  • @cheeseqwerty
    @cheeseqwerty 2 роки тому +1

    와인킹 채널도 참가해주세요~

  • @jasonlmu
    @jasonlmu 3 роки тому +11

    I must say, it seems there are many underhanded digs against Peter and Jay from wine king happening here. I found out about your channel by watching them and it’s honestly a bad look on your part to essentially copy their format then throw digs their way. If you have good information to share keep it objective and to the point however every time I tune in, which is less and less, there is a tone that comes off as condescending. Most people on the internet are looking for entertainment and knowledge. I hope you and your channel can do a better job of providing that moving forward and leave your personal relationships out of the picture.

    • @tongobongo5955
      @tongobongo5955 3 роки тому

      Did something happen between them? I enjoyed watching them together.

    • @Blue28485
      @Blue28485 3 роки тому +13

      The only person who looks bad here is you. You are assuming and speculating a ton here, and a completely unwarranted claim that he copied the format. Are you blind? In what way, does this channel copy the way wineking creates its channel, other than that it features a MW and it discusses wine? (Wineking is basically 90% blind tasting plus crapping on famous and overrated wines). If you are clueless and do not have anything nice to say, maybe just don’t say anything?

    • @seb_yt6695
      @seb_yt6695 3 роки тому +3

      I don't watch many videos of this channel, but i didn't feel any jabs at least in this video.
      He always strikes me a bit as the teacher type of person, which might rub some people in the wrong way, so maybe that is your issue with him.

    • @legaleagle6229
      @legaleagle6229 3 роки тому +1

      What's wrong with you?

    • @bruno3033
      @bruno3033 3 роки тому +2

      Maybe not from him, but from the ones making the questions

  • @ccuellar6212
    @ccuellar6212 3 роки тому

    I think this channel is dead.

  • @ccuellar6212
    @ccuellar6212 2 роки тому +1

    Wine King is doing huge things …and Pat is doing…….???