Yeah that was a load of bs LMAO. Bru kept claiming he didn't owe the wheat, and then claimed the debt was repaid when getting 3 very good resources for it LMAO
Great example from oj about how to not utilize the chat. Even if you are a really good player (seems like they are) and all the points you're making are logical, when you are pissing everyone off by flooding the chat constantly, flip flopping who you're pointing the finger at, and making accusations or cursing people out, you completely invalidate any point you're trying to make. Everyone just tunes you out and wants to see you fail. Nice win Dandy, love to see a three resource port/trade setup go the distance especially at a hostile table!
I think this is precisely what sets Dandydrew apart. It's quite easy for a lot of people who are experienced with logic and game theory to find the optimal game strategy, but no one dominates the social aspect like Dandy. I realized this after watching some Dylighted, who always provides valid logical arguments but people don't really like to listen to him. Dandy's secret weapons are emotional regulation, communication and reading the room
Hello this is Sinless. Before I get shit on too much in the comments, no I did not stream snipe nor know it was Dandy 😂. Yes I am a very aggro chatter which many of you probably know if you play ranked colonist a lot. Sorry for the expletives at the end.
Hey Sinless, you’re all good man! You are an incredible player and your results have shown that. At the end of the day, we don’t take things personally and we are all here to just have fun. I look forward to you getting your revenge in our future games! ❤
@@dandydrewdandy i don’t understand why you would connect to get road when you had the 9 sheep cards. You could always connect later, no one could plow you. Why grab road there and make yourself a target for the rest of the game without a clear win strategy? Especially after poping a mere knight.
@@fitmtla144 5 points with 2 down devs? could be on 7, take road to 9, and he could litrerally do anything for the final point. also there is a world where he eventually takes army too. it's too risky. also have to factor in the opportunity of being able to build roads. it's hard for dandy to have the materials to build roads cos he would have to roll a 4 and a bunch of sheep. in many other orbits he maybe had a ton of sheep, or maybe two brick, but rarely ever both.
Hey Dandy, was there any intentional strategy in being vague/non-responsive when red was asking for the second wheat around 16:00, or did you just not notice? I feel like just saying you didn’t have wheat there could have saved you from red distrusting, but maybe you didn’t want to expose that you didn’t have wheat?
I was zoning out from the chat most of this game because it was quite unproductive. After I lost my 2nd wheat, I did tell him I didn’t have it because it was stolen from me after I was solo blocked. Maybe you are referring to a different moment? Either way, he did get the wheat in the very last trade 😂
@ that moment is what I was referring to, yeah. If you look at the chat log before you told him the wheat was stolen, he started calling you a scammer when you didn’t respond right away. Pretty funny he got it at the end lmao
it's classic scammer strat. It's super convenient that he was "zoning out" cause if he says that he saw it then he'd be outed as a known scammer, which he is. Just watch his content. Drew is always playing the game, even in the comments. That's what makes him "great". He continues scamming even after the game is done. Also why I never want to play against him. It's a funny thing to say that he's just here to have fun but never sacrifices the win for the integrity of the game, and then claims that it's all just in good fun. I think to drew, lying is part of the fun. However, if it's fun for him to lie, and not fun for someone else to get lied to, then his fun takes priority over other people's fun. The only people that play multiple games with him are ones that buy into the notion that scamming is part of the fun. So yeah...going silent is just scammer strat to have plausible deniability that he isn't as much of a scammer.
@ oh I think Drew legitimately zoned out here, he’s got twitch chat as his main focus. But I also think we need more scamming in this game. The extortion deals have gone too far and nonbinding those is the only way to combat it
@@maff_ @808pierce I agree that extortion, scams, and non-binding are legitimate parts of the game, but that came across as more deliberately zoning into the chat to avoid the tension from non-binding the trade with red when Drew clearly had copies to trade. Once again, I think that is a fair choice, but it would sit better with the community or audience if you embrace situationally being the bad guy more, which you did do to some degree in the editing of the video and live, instead of gaslighting yourself and the audience in order to keep things good vibes. Love the videos and not judging; think the tension between the reality of the game, and the desire to build a wholesome community is a delicate balance to walk
Banning someone who takes a trade off a player’s bad judgment is not a ban-able offense, especially not on my turn as well. It was possible I could have 7ed out and that would have taken the win out of my hand. I don’t agree he should have given that specific trade but it’s clear to me he wasn’t tracking. I also had good rationale to take that trade because he could have also been scamming for the win. You might not like it but it is what it is.
The only reason this is justyfied is if Red thinks u have the win anyway unless u 7 out. To settle on the next orbit. Still makes a 3 for 1 insane without asking 1 for 1. Red cant win after that trade. Pls tell me how. Building roads after he traded away 1 plus an ore? :D double settle? :D City settle on 8 cards? :D draw 2 vps? :D So yeha not quite bannabel after all.
Lesson for red here: make deals for future resources that are not incredibly painful for the other person to fulfill and are likely to be fulfilled within a few orbits. Drew is on 3 pips of wheat, he can't afford to trade away his starting wheat and a future wheat lol.
@@HucaPuca But like, it's not a good deal at all. Drew's setup is unplayable until he settles and he can't settle without the wheat and he only has 3 pips of wheat. The only situation red actually gets the 2nd wheat early is if the 4 rolls early or if there is so much wheat on the board that Drew could trade for the wheat easily so he doesn't mind giving it up, in which case red could get a wheat trade anyway.
Honestly, this kind of game is the least close to a fun one. Like at the end you just pray that it ends. And having people talk even when they are pursposefully distorting the truth to their advantage is so obnoxious. Like seems they don't understand that it is a social game, and they are just making enemies doing so. And wow the game can be sooo long and so slow. For these reason, I have turned to 1v1s, which is much faster and less maddening. The game relies more on luck (because no trade) but hinges more on placement strategy and long term strategy + calculation. + there is quite little time to act so there is a decent margin for progression which is quite nice. Have you ever thought of doing a 1v1 series climbing the leaderboard Dandy? Would love to watch that. Love the good mood as always!
I DID OWE HIM A WHEAT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You keep on say I've paid all my debts... When you knew you had not. Bro you are a liar.
Yeah that was a load of bs LMAO. Bru kept claiming he didn't owe the wheat, and then claimed the debt was repaid when getting 3 very good resources for it LMAO
Great example from oj about how to not utilize the chat. Even if you are a really good player (seems like they are) and all the points you're making are logical, when you are pissing everyone off by flooding the chat constantly, flip flopping who you're pointing the finger at, and making accusations or cursing people out, you completely invalidate any point you're trying to make. Everyone just tunes you out and wants to see you fail.
Nice win Dandy, love to see a three resource port/trade setup go the distance especially at a hostile table!
I was having fun and that’s all that matters :D
I think this is precisely what sets Dandydrew apart. It's quite easy for a lot of people who are experienced with logic and game theory to find the optimal game strategy, but no one dominates the social aspect like Dandy. I realized this after watching some Dylighted, who always provides valid logical arguments but people don't really like to listen to him. Dandy's secret weapons are emotional regulation, communication and reading the room
I would have muted orange after the first 5 minutes, lol.
4:28 - Hello Klaus!! 🥳
Hello this is Sinless. Before I get shit on too much in the comments, no I did not stream snipe nor know it was Dandy 😂. Yes I am a very aggro chatter which many of you probably know if you play ranked colonist a lot. Sorry for the expletives at the end.
Hey Sinless, you’re all good man! You are an incredible player and your results have shown that. At the end of the day, we don’t take things personally and we are all here to just have fun. I look forward to you getting your revenge in our future games! ❤
you were insufferable in chat man😭
brotha eww
You should probably think about changing your name bro.
@@Funglutton mhm thanks
Wow that was really down to the wire, good win! Trade by red at the end was extremely bad to be fair tho😂
It really was but any one would take that trade in my position. I also made a calculated decision since he could have been scamming the win himself.
@@dandydrewdandy i don’t understand why you would connect to get road when you had the 9 sheep cards. You could always connect later, no one could plow you. Why grab road there and make yourself a target for the rest of the game without a clear win strategy? Especially after poping a mere knight.
@@fitmtla144 because otherwise black could win with road in that orbit.
@ dude black was on 5 points with no chance of getting army. How was he winning with road next turn?
@@fitmtla144 5 points with 2 down devs? could be on 7, take road to 9, and he could litrerally do anything for the final point. also there is a world where he eventually takes army too. it's too risky. also have to factor in the opportunity of being able to build roads. it's hard for dandy to have the materials to build roads cos he would have to roll a 4 and a bunch of sheep. in many other orbits he maybe had a ton of sheep, or maybe two brick, but rarely ever both.
Hey Dandy, was there any intentional strategy in being vague/non-responsive when red was asking for the second wheat around 16:00, or did you just not notice? I feel like just saying you didn’t have wheat there could have saved you from red distrusting, but maybe you didn’t want to expose that you didn’t have wheat?
I was zoning out from the chat most of this game because it was quite unproductive. After I lost my 2nd wheat, I did tell him I didn’t have it because it was stolen from me after I was solo blocked. Maybe you are referring to a different moment? Either way, he did get the wheat in the very last trade 😂
@ that moment is what I was referring to, yeah. If you look at the chat log before you told him the wheat was stolen, he started calling you a scammer when you didn’t respond right away.
Pretty funny he got it at the end lmao
it's classic scammer strat. It's super convenient that he was "zoning out" cause if he says that he saw it then he'd be outed as a known scammer, which he is. Just watch his content. Drew is always playing the game, even in the comments. That's what makes him "great". He continues scamming even after the game is done. Also why I never want to play against him.
It's a funny thing to say that he's just here to have fun but never sacrifices the win for the integrity of the game, and then claims that it's all just in good fun. I think to drew, lying is part of the fun. However, if it's fun for him to lie, and not fun for someone else to get lied to, then his fun takes priority over other people's fun. The only people that play multiple games with him are ones that buy into the notion that scamming is part of the fun. So yeah...going silent is just scammer strat to have plausible deniability that he isn't as much of a scammer.
@ oh I think Drew legitimately zoned out here, he’s got twitch chat as his main focus. But I also think we need more scamming in this game. The extortion deals have gone too far and nonbinding those is the only way to combat it
@@maff_ @808pierce I agree that extortion, scams, and non-binding are legitimate parts of the game, but that came across as more deliberately zoning into the chat to avoid the tension from non-binding the trade with red when Drew clearly had copies to trade. Once again, I think that is a fair choice, but it would sit better with the community or audience if you embrace situationally being the bad guy more, which you did do to some degree in the editing of the video and live, instead of gaslighting yourself and the audience in order to keep things good vibes. Love the videos and not judging; think the tension between the reality of the game, and the desire to build a wholesome community is a delicate balance to walk
What a crazy and entertaining game, nice win
I feel like the number diversity or lack of it on the first placement was crippling.
Lately, your videos have a higher brightness, converting it in a flashbang at night. Could you make it lower? Great video btw
What a horribel ending for a Overall good game. I wish stuff like this would be bannable for both.
Banning someone who takes a trade off a player’s bad judgment is not a ban-able offense, especially not on my turn as well. It was possible I could have 7ed out and that would have taken the win out of my hand. I don’t agree he should have given that specific trade but it’s clear to me he wasn’t tracking. I also had good rationale to take that trade because he could have also been scamming for the win. You might not like it but it is what it is.
The only reason this is justyfied is if Red thinks u have the win anyway unless u 7 out. To settle on the next orbit. Still makes a 3 for 1 insane without asking 1 for 1. Red cant win after that trade. Pls tell me how. Building roads after he traded away 1 plus an ore? :D double settle? :D City settle on 8 cards? :D draw 2 vps? :D So yeha not quite bannabel after all.
17:25 black says that Drew non binded him, did I miss it?
I think a game or 2 before he was refering to
Tough to watch w commercials every 5 min.
Lesson for red here: make deals for future resources that are not incredibly painful for the other person to fulfill and are likely to be fulfilled within a few orbits. Drew is on 3 pips of wheat, he can't afford to trade away his starting wheat and a future wheat lol.
For the record, I did fulfill all my deals this game 🤣
Well I mean Drew just blatantly did not give the second wheat to him... Hard to make good deals if you don't believe the player on the other end.
@@HucaPuca But like, it's not a good deal at all. Drew's setup is unplayable until he settles and he can't settle without the wheat and he only has 3 pips of wheat. The only situation red actually gets the 2nd wheat early is if the 4 rolls early or if there is so much wheat on the board that Drew could trade for the wheat easily so he doesn't mind giving it up, in which case red could get a wheat trade anyway.
Honestly, this kind of game is the least close to a fun one. Like at the end you just pray that it ends. And having people talk even when they are pursposefully distorting the truth to their advantage is so obnoxious. Like seems they don't understand that it is a social game, and they are just making enemies doing so.
And wow the game can be sooo long and so slow. For these reason, I have turned to 1v1s, which is much faster and less maddening. The game relies more on luck (because no trade) but hinges more on placement strategy and long term strategy + calculation. + there is quite little time to act so there is a decent margin for progression which is quite nice.
Have you ever thought of doing a 1v1 series climbing the leaderboard Dandy? Would love to watch that.
Love the good mood as always!
crying about your position is the core of catan
either you are losing bad or winning big, you never stop crying, thats the game
Was I watching this live less than 24 hours ago, or am I going crazy😅
You crazy! 🥳
Hi klaus!
LOL
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