SIG P322 Review - Good buy or hard pass?
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- Опубліковано 10 гру 2022
- This is the review of the SIG SAUER P322 .22LR handgun! Is this a good buy or should you pass on this one? Find out what I think in this video!
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I love mine. I just ordered some of the 25 round mags from sigs website. I have 5,300rds through it mostly CCI with not one malfunction suppressed and unsuppressed. As long as you load the mags properly they’re very reliable. I also didn’t have any leading issues with my barrel, but there was a little build up on the inside of the adapter. I just scraped it off and it was good as new. Accurate, reliable, and fun to shoot. I also find it’s a great training tool for my xl/macro since the grip modules are so similar. As for dry firing, I think sig said you’re supposed to keep the plastic thing that comes in the barrel inserted. Great video! Subbed
Nice! Thanks for subbing and glad you like the video! So far so good with the one I’ve tested, I had a lot of fun with it! It is disappointing though to see the issues others have had though, which means that sig has some work to do with QC and T&E prior to releasing. That being said, they kick out more guns than the majority of manufacturers… so with increased production is likely to come more lemons🤷🏻♂️
Great honest review I have watched allot. Yours was the first I found showing what group shots look like. I will be making a purchase thank you for your review
Well thanks! As always, I make these videos to assist in making a purchasing decision! Glad it helped you!
been watching a bunch of p322 vids as I've been looking into getting one. Was nice to see someone suggest getting multiple opinions, even looking up negative feedback to have a well informed opinion in your purchase. Pretty certain at this point I'll be picking one up.
Well thanks! Honestly that’s the review process in a nutshell. As much as people want to always hear that the gun they want is “flawless”, there’s always going to be a downside. No product or manufacturer is perfect. In this case I had great luck with this pistol despite the shortcomings I explain, but others have had a less than stellar experience with this gun. Every review is a sample size of 1, so it’s always beneficial to see multiple reviews on a product. Thanks for watching!
Well now this was a interesting video and I have had nothing but good experience with my p322. I have probably put close to 4000 rounds through mine and I have shot every kind of cheap bulk ammo out there and it handles it all. Most definitely the p322 has moved to the number one position of my semi-auto 22 handguns that I own.
Thanks for sharing your experience with it!
In your 4000 rounds, what brand would you say has the least failure to fire's?
Says the manager from Sig😂😂
Great job on the review. I purchased mine and have run about 1000 rounds of different ammo. It did not like Winchester high velocity 222 with issues failing to load. It ran Armscor flawlessly with no issues whatsoever. My next ammo I tried was Aguila high velocity with failure to fire issues after looking at the shell it looked like light strikes. After doing a little research and finding a video I shimmed the the hammer spring and now it is working excellent. It was super easy to do. I just love this handgun, it is just a great trainging gun as I have a Sig P365XL as my EDC.
Interesting finding! Thanks for sharing!
Great review. I got mine in October, after learning to properly load the magazines . I bought mine with the sole purpose of letting young shooters use it
to train them . Thank you for the honest feedback
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the information you put together in this video. It was good information in helping me decide whether to get a P322.
Hey thanks for watching! I try to keep my reviews as unbiased as possible. Glad it helped!
My fiancé and I hate how little we shoot nowadays due to the increasing cost of ammo. Our .300 SBR, 5.56 rifle, 9mm pistol don’t see a lot of sunshine these days. We’ve been looking at a .22 pistol for this reason. Pistols are harder to master, and .22 is stupid cheap. Can’t beat ‘em!
I totally get that! I enjoy shooting .22 pistols, they’re a bunch of fun!
Great job! Well paced, informative and succinct video.
Hey, thanks! I appreciate you checking out the video!
I almost skipped out on this video as soon as I saw the larper-rig 😅. Honestly, this is the best, most thorough, review video I have seen on the P322. I learned more from it than all the others combined. Good Job, larp away Sir.
Glad you found good use of this video!
I purchased my P322 in early April 2022 right after they came out. It does not like the Norma Tac 22 ammo either. It functions well with CCI and Federal ammo. Have not had the barrel leading problem others have reported. I put the Sig Romeo Zero on it and I'm still trying to get used to shooting a pistol with a red dot sight. Great video!
That’s a great pistol to learn a red dot on, just due to the cheap cost of shooting 22! Right on thanks for sharing!
Like your style of reviewing, very objective and good footage
Thanks, glad you like it!
Very helpful. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching!
@@SabertoothDefenseSystems thinking of picking one up.
Just bought a used one and it’s been a great purchase. Looking forward to putting more rounds through it. 👍
Awesome, glad it’s working out for ya! It’s a fun pistol!
This was the best P322 review I’ve seen!
Thanks for watching! I appreciate your comment!
Great video. Very informative. Thank you.
Hey thanks for watching, glad you liked it!
I've had my Sig P322 for about 9 months and I love it. I have learned to load the mags correctly and haven't had any problems. I find that I practice more now. And that's a good thing.
Well now this was a interesting video and I must say that the p322 that I own is a very reliable pistol. I also agree that you do have to be careful the way you load magazines and once you learn to load them correctly the magazines no longer represent any problems. I have probably fired around 3,500 rounds through mine and I have experience no excessive leading in the barrel.
Good to know! Thanks for checking out the video!
Cleaned my gun before I ever used it. I’ve been using CCI Tactical. I had a few problems until the gun/magazines broke in. About 200 to 300 rounds. Now it runs without any problems. It’s great for target and plinking.
Nice! Thanks for sharing!
Here’s a tip for light strikes, remove the grip module by punching out the two roll pins, then remove the fcu the hammer spring resides in a hole in the module put a 2mm thick spacer or like I used a button head screw which I ground the head to 2 mm and put the bolt threaded part thru the spring and insert that into module then reassemble and bingo! No more failures to fire! You’re Welcome!😊
Interesting process! I’ll have to try it and see what happens! Thanks
The "light strikes" i've had didn't appear light at all, but i have had this issue.
To me, it seemed like the firing pin hit just a touch off of the edge of the rim.
Had to do this to mine as well. About every 5 rounds I would have a light strike. I have fired over 100 rounds since adding the spacer with no issues.
Good honest review. Objective and without drama. Good job!
I love my P322! I've had it about a month now and I've probably already put about 1000 rounds of CCI Mini Mag through it with no problems so far!
Good to hear! Thanks for watching!
A no-nonsense, straight up review. Agree, in the realm that is .22, it just isn't a cartridge I'd depend on for self defense...keep it as a plinker...
Loading the magizine, each cartridge rim placed in front of one being stacked...
Hope it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Great review. I already own it just seeing if the barrel fouling is still an issue. Subbed
Thanks for watching! No fouling with mine!
Just got this for my 14 year old. Great beginner pistol. Nice video bud. I’m subbing.
Thanks a lot! Glad you liked the video!
This was a very thorough review, almost “scientific” so to speak. Subscribed…
Personally, I’m stuck choosing between this gun and the M17. So., we’ll see I guess. Thanks for the input tho…
Thanks man! I’d get the M17, coming from somebody that had one and sold it. I regret selling that gun!
Nice review. Next paycheck I’m getting your OWB for this gun.
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The same happens with the M&P15-22, if you dont load the ammo correct, you will get failure to feed with the stove pipe. So as you said, make sure when you drop the next one IN, make sure the rim is in FRONT of the one below it, this way when it pushes it forward, it loads properly and wont get caught with the one below it.
I went thru 200+ rounds of this CCI Mini Mag and all fired and all cycled perfect.
Good to hear!
Cool video!!!
Thanks!
Great review
Thanks!
I have this pistol. Hate me if you want but I carry this as my daily. I went with some Winchester 36gr copper plated hollow point. It wasn’t a fan of this for the first 150rds. What it did love was CCI mini-mag Varmint 36grCPHP and I’ve ran 250rds with no light primer strike fTF or FTE. Try that see if it likes. You are very correct each pistol likes its own ammo. Great video. Have fun with it. Love mine!
No hate here! If it works for you and you’re confident in carrying it every day, that’s awesome! Thanks for the info! It is a neat little pistol and shooting it is a lot of fun! Thanks for watching!
I’m planning on getting a 365 Marco tacops which is the exact same size as the 322 with a 17rd so makes training very easy. Food for thought
I love mine. If you load the magazine properly malfunctions can be minimized to essentially zero. I love attaching my Warlock suppressor,
I’d love to try out a suppressor on this gun!
Theese 22lr pistols are really fun to play... been thinking about a Taurus TX 22 Competition.
I couldn’t agree more! That’s another gun I’d like to try, I have a few friends that really like theirs!
I had problems when I first started shooting. Loading the mags was the issue. Cleaning especially after firing lead rounds is important and lubricants is important. I put an optical sight on mine and the accuracy has improved. I have fired about 1000 rounds so far and it’s fun to shoot.
Nice! It certainly is a neat little gun!
Thanks for the video bud. I'm liking the content that you make. Quick question tho... the cci ammo you were having issues with. Was that cci mini mags? Or just regular cci blazer bulk ammo. Cause the mini mags ran through my p322 no prob but I did have issues with the cci blazer. Mainly light primer strikes. Thanks in advance!
The ammo I was using was CCI AR-Tactical 40gr ammunition. I haven’t tried Mini-mags or CCI Blazer yet!
Okay thanks. Good to know. Mini mags run great in the p322. I've ran over 500 rounds of it through mine and not a single issue. Not even a light primer strike.
Love mine. I was having a little buyer's remorse due to all these videos talking about issues. Went to range yesterday and had one cartridge that wouldn't fire (not even in my 10/22) and a failure to feed with some cheap hollow point. This was right out of the box new. I was running standard velocity round nose , coated and uncoated, from a variety of manufacturers. No appreciable leading. It has quickly become my favorite ammo burner.
Glad you love yours! It’s a shame that there’s a large variance in opinions due to QC issues, cuz the pistol is so much fun to shoot!
Boy I remember another 22 pistol that caught hell when people started talking about how to load the magazine correctly.
It is what it is🤷🏻♂️
I have enjoyed mine so far with no issues. I’d say good buy!
Right on! I will say, it’s a blast to shoot this gun!
Nice review. I like the look of the gun and would love to buy it. However, I sent Sig an email (1/15/24) and asked if they had gotten all the bugs out of the gun and they never replied. If a company can't even endorse their own product that tells you all you need to know. Plus I remember the Sig Mosquito and what a POS it was and how Sig never addressed any of the issues that gun had.
I agree. It’s important for them to endorse the product and stand behind it during the long term. To play devils advocate, I’m sure they get so much hate mail/trolling/or spamming. It’s not likely any manufacturer will answer a question like that, as it’s questioning the integrity of their product. While I do agree with you as far as asking for transparency so that you don’t waste your hard earned money, most manufacturers will not admit that problem products had problems in the beginning, so I wouldn’t ever expect an answer to that question from any manufacturer you send it to. UNLESS that company came out publicly with an announcement anckowledging problems with one of their products. Desert Tech as an example would probably be one of the only companies that I know of that would actually respond to a question like that, as they came out publicly, (ie. UA-cam) and said “yeah our product had issues, this is what they were, this is how we’ve changed it, and this is how we’re gonna make it up to you”.
One of the things I’ve talked about in my POF Rogue review is that manufacturers commonly release new versions or different variations of their products constantly, but in the process change dimensions or update certain internals under the public’s nose, never admitting there was a problem in the first place. As an example, POF had the Rogue and a lot of people have had issues with it. Mine wouldn’t run reliably without an adjustable gas block, which was not included and had to be purchased separately. I mentioned this in the video review. Well wouldn’t ya know? Shot Show 2024, they announce the Rouge in 13.75” barrel configuration.. which will then come standard with the adjustable gas block, and it looks like the Handguard has been updated. So they release a new “version” of the gun but it quite literally has updates to it that actually make it function properly. Rather than just come out of the gate and say, “hey guys sorry, we know this thing kind of sucks but we’re gonna fix it”.
I’m not saying you’re wrong for asking that question to Sig. I’m just saying there’s no point in most cases, because these big manufacturers rarely show accountability. It’s a shame too because this is a fun little gun, and it looks good too. But I’d be amiss if I denied that many peoples copies of this gun have been riddled with issues! Thanks for watching!
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Thank you for this review. I like how the P322 fits in my hand and the great sights, but the negative reviews and experiences are making me think twice about a purchase. I think I’ll wait until next year to make up my mind!
Glad you liked the review. Yeah, the track record of this gun is really unfortunate. It’s sad too because the gun I have is freaking sweet. Feels great, great features, but unfortunate the track record of the gun has deterred a lot of people. Sig has to get this ironed out in order for this thing to sell big
I got a P-17.
Never had a failure to fire.
Nice!
I have had mine for 3 weeks and the first rounds I fired I had some jams. I contacted sig and they told me to try Cci minimag copper coated. Also told me to load the magazine slow and push them down instead of dropping them in. They also told me to tap the magazines after loading. Since I made these changes I have not had any jams and only one failure to fire.
Right on, thanks for posting your experience with it. I also found that pushing each round down into the magazine slowly cut out all the magazine related issues!
The Failure to fire is not the ammo. CCI never has that many failures. The failure is the adjustment to the firing pin. Send it back to Sig and they will adjust it . I had this issue also hyper velocity Ammon would stand straight up on last round .
Last shot hold open didn’t work. I sent to sig and they fixed everything and turned around in less than a week . I know have about 500 rounds with 0 malfunctions of any kind .
Oh yes they sent a stronger recoil spring to replace original to run hyper loads better . It worked great .
Thanks for sharing!
funny how most blame failure to fire to ammo and never the gun
TX22 is still my go to but I just bought this and will see how it compares... .22LR is just a fun round to shoot but most importantly, cheap
Yup! Not as cheap as it used to be, but still cheap in comparison to other ammo
Shot about a hundred rounds through a rented P322 and loved it. Considering purchase, but don't want a problem. Funny thing is, one or two fellows continued to have the leading issue even after multiple barrel replacements. Apparently the early produced guns were fine, but presumably as production rose, quality control issues emerged. Why Sig would keep putting out bad barrels mystifies me. Makes me think they don't know how to solve the issue or solving it would cost them more than continually replacing barrels, but they surely have damaged their reputation. Another thought I had after immediately switching back from the 322 to my own 9Ms, the difference in the experience was shocking even though I've shot thousands of 9m rounds before. The Sig 322 has almost ruined my experiences shooting 9Ms. 🙂 So, is .22LR a good training tool for anyone but a complete beginner? That said, the gun was so pleasant to shoot and so on target, I just might choose it as a self defense weapon if the ammo itself were reliable.
Definitely a fun gun to shoot, I really enjoyed it as well. But yes, SIG has definitely crapped the bed with their QC issues. Shame too, because this is a really neat product!
Do hollow points run well in the 322?
Thinking about getting a 322 and I have a large stash of .22 and a lot are HP.
Thanks....nice review!
I’m sure they will, I haven’t tried them though!
I ran Aguila 38 grain Extra High HP with 5-7 failures to fire per 50 box.
I shoot cci mini mags 40gr put 1k down range np then started getting light hammer strikes fixed problem with2.25 mm spacer haven't had problem sence now it has 4k through it
Thanks for the tip. Seems to be a fix a decent amount of people have mentioned now
I will have to see if that is what I’m doing with loading the magazines wrong. We have a horrible time with jams. Shoot great but only 2 at a time or so because of jams.
Yeah man give that a try! Let me know if it helped!
I have a marlin 22 rifle lever action and can’t remember my last fail to fire. Also ruger mark 2 and still would say it rarely has happened. My opinion is that something is wrong with the pistol.
Very well could be. Not sure. That being said I have my ruger 10/22 which is known as a very reliable .22 and in the video I had malfunctions with the same ammunition. Just went out and shot .22’s the other day with a shooting buddy and his ruger mk IV and even he had issues with .22 ammo. Of course this is just my experience. Could be ammo, could be the gun.🤷🏻♂️
I appreciate the video, but I have seen enough bad reviews that I think I will stick with my S&W M&P 22 compact. I have 2 of them and neither has ever had a single failure. Granted it doesn’t have the capacity of the Sig, which is why I was so interested in it, but I know it’s going to work.
No worries man, I’m with you there! I won’t deny that this thing has a track record of questionable to downright poor reliability! Sad too, cuz it feels great in the hand and is a ton of fun to shoot. I’ll have to check out the M&P .22’s. Thanks for watching!
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Out of 200 round I had 12 that failed to fire. Winchester ammo. I will be trying different ammo in the future. The ammo is at least 10yrs old. It has been stored in the house and kept dry. I had it jam 1 time pretty sure my fault loaded the clip wrong.
Just gotta experiment with different ammo I suppose. All of my .22Lr guns are picky with ammo!
great review, however in the groupings I would refer to your group sizes in inches inside of MOA. Your groups were 2" at 10 yards, not 2 MOA. No hate, just passing knowledge.
You mean 2” at 100 yds?
Ah, sorry about that, I’m losing track of what videos these comments are directed toward. I thought this was a comment related to one of my PA-10 videos lol😂 Appreciate the feedback
I looked at one of these in a store but its way to small for my hands, kind of sad because I really liked the looks.
Ah bummer!
You might want to recheck how MOA works :)
Nope you’re right, someone called me on it earlier lol. I realized I wasn’t making a 100yd accuracy video like I usually do😂 funny though that I only realize I totally made that mistake after I posted the video lol😂 Thanks for the reminder!
remington subsonic copper plated ammo refused to chamber in my p322
I tried fiocci and cci lead subsonic rounds and they chambered perfectly, but didn't always fire.
Interesting results. Thanks for sharing!
My p322 will not slide lock and has 5% light strikes with all brands of ammo. The 20 round magazines work OK if you load them carefully but the 25 round magazines DO NOT WORK reliably. It is very accurate and has no leading problems. I probably will not buy another SIG product.
Thanks for the input. Collectively the reviews are either that it works great, or it has lots of malfunctions. It’s a shame cuz it’s a neat little pistol that’s fun to shoot. Sig has got to figure out their QC issues🤷🏻♂️
It’s a great pistol in terms of features, but mine is headed back to Sig. I’m near 1000 rounds and still at 5-20% light primer strikes depending on ammo, and that is far from OK. No issues with failure to feed or leading - it just doesn’t strike the damn primers hard enough.
I have shot 10’s of 1000’s of 22’s. They are usually reliable. I can go to a steel challenge match and usually shoot 150 plus with rarely any problems. CCI or Blaser are my favorite rounds.
Nice!
Mine is going back to the factory for the second time on Monday. Failure to feed. Failure to feed. Failure to feed. Then the occasional stovepipe to break the monotony of the failure to feeds. CCI, Federal Automatic Match, Aguila, Remington Golden Bullets, Winchester Super X and a few others. Averaging about six-eight malfs per magazine. And mine will not feed any hollow points.
Man thats a huge bummer. Completely unacceptable! Thanks for sharing though! The more honest feedback, the better.
Well, got it back. Factory says they replaced the barrel. And it still jams. So, I bought two new mags. And the gun now works. Apparently, Sig is having problems with the magazines. And they haven't heard of anti tilt followers. And I watched the silly video. And it still didn't help. If you get good mags, you have a great pistol. If you get shitty mags, the pistol doesn't work.
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And I had light hits that got fixed the first time I sent my pistol back. So, I'm not inclined to give the pistol the benefit of the doubt.
Bummer! Sorry to hear about your experience thus far!
Try using higher velocity ammo.
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How did you find the trigger ? I have a Mosquito,and the trigger is terrible!!
I think the trigger is pretty decent. Nothing to ride home about but it’s a crisp break
Just picked one up last week and is already on its way back to Sig for repair. The slide will not lock back at all when empty. It also slams forward when inserting loaded mag. You can’t even lock the slide back with the slide lock lever. I guess I got one of the bad ones. I really hope they fix this.
Bummer man! That sucks and I’d be livid! Let me know how it goes. Like I said, that’s the one thing about this gun that would sway me away from it: Sig’s QC🙄
your issue is the minor, the bigger issue with the P322 is the leading of the barrels ...
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@@ACommenterOnUA-cam yup. Well aware that some have had that issue. Disappointing
@@SabertoothDefenseSystems sad part is i really like that 20 round capacity, but don't want to risk getting a bad one while others have NO issues with leading or feed failures or failing to stay open after last round ...
@@ACommenterOnUA-cam Yeah man, I can’t blame you. I really liked the pistol, being that it was comfortable, and shot really well for what it is. But man I just wish this gun wasn’t riddled with all the problems, and crazy variances in QC. SIG has really dropped the ball on this. Otherwise I’d say this would be an incredible contender for a .22 LR.
I'm not sure you know what MOA means. 1 MOA is about 1" at 100yards. At 25yards, 1 MOA would be 1/4", @ 200yards 1 MOA would be 2", etc. So what you're calling 2.5MOA @ 25yards(which would really be 3/8") with that Norma ammo is actually a 10MOA group
Yeah man I do know what it means, just a bad habit is all. Somewhere along the way I got into the habit of saying MOA rather than just say whatever inch group it was. I appreciate the reminder. We’re all here to make each other better🤙
Thanks for the review. Head up, you are using the term MOA when you should be saying inches. MOA is a measure of angle. 2 inches at 25 yards is 8 MOA. 2.5 inches at 25 yards is 10 MOA. Not a big deal, but for your consideration.
Yup, I know the correct way to use the term. Unfortunately I realized it as soon as I posted the video and just my luck wasn’t able to edit the original🙄 But I appreciate the reminder, and thanks for watching!
@@SabertoothDefenseSystems I kinda figured, as you've used it correctly, in other videos.
Still on the fence about the pistol. I've seen too many videos about folks having too many issues. A $400 dice roll isn't in the budget, right now.
@@aristotelian9693 Happens to the best of us haha! I hear ya, and I totally understand. The reviews are all over the place with this one. I own the Taurus TX22 as well, which the majority of the reviews have been pretty positive. Mine runs great but the mags on that thing are iffy. I really like the P322 but again I understand the aversion. Sig unfortunately has had way too many issues with QC in the past 10 years which is really unfortunate.
I like these but being made by Umarex makes me leery. Not about build quality, but about spare parts availability.
Hey that’s a great point to consider! Thanks for sharing!
Anyone know a good holster for this with the Olight mini Valkyrie and red dot?
You could always get a custom one made! I don’t know of a holster like that!
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I understand your conclusions but the p322 does have issues with light strikes. I have multiple issues with mine. Same ammo shoots through tx22 and fn 502 without malfunctions.
Good to know. Again my experience may differ, and that’s one of the things I tried to emphasize in the video. One of the biggest reservations I have is obviously QC. The experiences people have with this gun in particular vary WILDLY which is definitely a problem. Thanks for sharing, it definitely shows that the issues have not ceased and that this gun is still unpredictable🤷🏻♂️
Mine had issues with light primer strikes like crazy. Couldn't shoot more than 3 rounds without a light strike. Just got it back from Sig yesterday. They replaced the mainspring, sear and disconnector and "adjusted hammer strut seat". Haven't shot it since getting it back but supposedly it's fixed now. My serial is 73A021xxx. No issues with a fouling barrel.
@@DesertBallistics Thanks for the feedback, it’s crucial we all share data to hold the manufacturers somewhat accountable.
@@SabertoothDefenseSystems Just an update. Ran 500 rounds through it this morning at Table Mesa. Zero malfunctions!! Sig made good on their part. I wonder how they are going to address weak mainsprings on the early production models.
I run CCI & I grip it like a man. 500 rounds. Zero issues.
Hard pass , for all the reasons you showed , good vid i have regret buying my 322 Tac Op mags are weak point , Gun Broker time for my SIG .
Hope it was helpful!
mags actually hold 23 or at least mine do.
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to many negative reviews to take a chance on this gun. I shouldn't have to hassle loading a dang 22LR magazine.
A valid point indeed!
Gun without safety lock! it is not dangerous?
No
It’s a damn shame that you can not but this gun in California it’s only a 22lr and whoever make these rules for Californian need to be fired from there positions.
Really? Wow, that’s absolutely wild
Issues plaguing a gen 1 Sig? Weird…
Sure looks like it, unfortunately!
Mine was made in February 2023 and I bought it in march. Depending on the ammunition I tried I got from very little leading in 200 or more rounds to the worst you ever saw in under 100 I’m talking leaded so bad it looks like a rusty sewer pipe and begins keyholing at 80-100 rounds. Worst ammo ever, Winchester 333. Never shoot it in this gun or really any other, unless you like to have to soak your barrel in lead remover for a few days before being able to even get a rod through the bore without driving it with a mallet.
Ok thanks for the heads up!
@@SabertoothDefenseSystems this seems to be one of the big things that all the videos about the p322 leading seem to have in common is this ammunition. I was shooting cheap bulk CCI unplayed lead the last time I went to the range and put 300+ rounds through it, barely any sign of leading.
At the same time I was trying out the brand new Ruger wrangler 7 1/2” I bought the day before and figured I would shoot up the rest of the crap 333 in it. To my surprise they didn’t even want to load into the cylinder. The bullets seemed oversized and upon inspection and measuring with a micrometer they were over by a lot. I figure that’s causing over half the problem people are having with this gun and the leading issue. Shimming the hammer spring does help eliminate some of the misfires caused by light primer strikes, but as stated rimfire is not really known for its reliability and never has been. A perfect example of that is the original Henry .44 rimfire rifle having dual firing pins to help increase the reliability, and the fact that most of the original ammunition in modern collections bears multiple firing pin marks around the rim from re -tries.
I’ve always wondered why no modern makers of rimfire guns ever adopted the dual firing pin system of the original Henry.
Good point indeed, it would be cool to see that feature on modern rimfires!
LOL , Ninjas don't use guns. But if they did, it would be a Sig.
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22 will still kill at 400m
I wouldn’t doubt it for a second. I wouldn’t want to get hit with any projectile
09.51 so what you mean about that? You will never bet any life with that cal??? So you wanna say you can not heart anyone with that cal????
.22 LR can absolutely do damage, I’m not saying that it can’t. I’m saying that I would never rely on it as no matter what 22 LR gun I’ve had, I’ve almost always had malfunctions even with good Ammo. I don’t want to have a stoppage when I’m trying to defend myself. Make sense?
Heart shot is not instantly fatal.
you say moa when you mean inches
Yup honest mistake👍
Shockingly leaded after 100 rounds of CCI Stinger. Never seen anything like it.. Shot great, felt great, got home and was like WTF!!!! 100 rounds.. All the things you have heard are true!
Bummer, that’s super unfortunate!
@@SabertoothDefenseSystems Did not lead after 500 with Armscor.. at all.
you need a quality auto loader......the Sig 322 is total; garbage and the Sig customer Serevice is among the worst......sig quality control sucks, this gun never should have been allow to be marketed
It is what it is!