The Legend of the International DT466 Engine
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2022
- The International DT466 completely changed the medium-duty truck market and set the bar. It's crazy reliable, dead simple, and super hard to break. In fact, they're so reliable, so simply, and so hard to break, that these engines are actually the engine of choice n the world of high performance tractor pulling, where we see some extreme examples outputting as much as 4000hp at 300lbs of boost. Of course, those engines aren't stock, but it shows you just how good of an engine the DT466 is. When I say it's a diesel legend, I mean it.
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go on, dare you.. take a trip to brazil, find a 4.2tdi mwm sprint.. do a rap on that.. not sold in u.s, but rest of the world. i have the pre computer base, model. 97 -07..international owned them for 5 yrs.. would of sold heaps in u.s. not great power but reliable as a rock.. i fitted bit bigger turbo. has 230hp. 700nm.. watch some brazil vids of them..they had a common rail version.. never sold in trucks as far as i know..im in aus..12. lt 100. in my s/duty..02..
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One thing I always wondered is why international didn't push to put the dt 360 or something similar into Ford trucks
@@nickpalazzi2121 Some people have put them in Ford pickups. That said it is very heavy engine in relation to the stock HP ratings. Probably because of that it was totally reliable, even more so than the pre 94 DT466's which were super reliable. If Chevy was "like a rock" the 360 was "like a mountain"!
I have a 92 international dump truck with the dta466c. When I bought it, it had coolant in the oil from failed cylinder liners. I tore it down in my driveway with nothing but hand tools and an engine hoist ( to lift the 250# head off). Had it rebuilt to "like new" condition for under $1200. New pistons, bearings, and liners, as well as a fresh head gasket. Haven't had a single issue since. Great power, reliability, and fuel milage. Absolutely love the way it sounds spooling up that turbo, as well.
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Great comments. Love your rebuilt story. We had a 466 in a 4 or 5 yard dump truck at my workplace. It always STARTED even when the temperature dropped. We placed a water tank in bed and had multiple spray nozzles to spray ( De-icing) product on roads, break down the black ice so plowing could push it OFF. We also had a snow plow on front, that we could remove. Never once did I see in usage, it going into shop for overhaul. It just ran & ran.
"Like new" with will-fit parts, lol. And the liners did not "fail". The "engineers" failed.
@@rp1645You had to "break down" and "plow off" BLACK ICE? You have obviously never seen actual black ice. Which is common.
@@deeremeyer1749 plowed Ice & Snow for 15 years , but "O" my never seen black ICE. WOW how would you know what I saw, you have seen it all. Everyone else is stupid except for you, Mr. Know it all.
This engine changed my life. Started my professional career at a fleet shop full of DT466 and DT466e. Great engine to start on. Easy to work on and Easy to understand. ⚙️ 🔧 🧰
Man you can't clump all the dts from 95-16 in the same group, multiple big changes occurred. The 95-early 04s are still very reliable. The late 04-06s are good but they no longer used cat designed injectors, as a result the newer ones are less reliable. The 07s Started the Maxxforce line up, plagued by more egr issues and dpf issues. The 10-13s received compound turbos and an even worse egr cooler. The last generation known as N9s had scr. You could make an entire video on differences between 95-16.....
Man he just googled that shit he has no real experience🤣🤣
I run an early 07 4300 dump truck with the 466 and it is a great truck pretty sure it's the 04-06 engine and it gets ran hard has almost 500k km of hard abuse and still keeps on going
You can say the same for ALL Diesel engines made by ALL manufacturers. It looked like Dodge was going to survive the transition to DEF as the only reliable one, but it turns out, they had the PCM set up to only pass emissions if the wheel speed sensors up front showed zero while the signals from rear showed the speed of the real wheels while on a test dyno during government testing. GENIUS! Too bad they were caught.
VW did the same thing on their cars. If I had one, I wouldn’t go anywhere near a dealer. They are required to reprogram it.
Do you have any info on the dt466ht? Looking to buy a 2004 7400 with the 250hp dt466ht and was wondering what the torque output and at what rpm on this version. Any significant differences between a dt466 and dt466ht as far as internals?
Delete all the emissions crap and you got a pretty decent truck.
As a farm kid whos family had alot of red tractors, I love some 466s. Rock solid, simple, and big power.
Those are legendary engines, you can't kill em and there isn't a engine that pulls, runs or starts easier then em. Ran international my whole life and will always be my favorite
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The fuckin things are plauged by the stupid engine oil cooler...
Mine is deadlined currently as oil keeps getting into the coolant.
Honestly, I've never been worried about making alot of power, I just big reliable engines which is why the dt466 has become one of my favorite diesel engines
Still plant 500 acres of soybeans and bale a thousand round bales every year with one of these engines. It has been amazing how reliable they are. We don't know exactly anymore, but the tractor has at least 25000 hours on it. Granted, it's been rebuilt twice in that time, but still I think that's pretty darn good, and still hard at work full speed nearly every day. A week ago we ran it for 26 hours straight planting soybeans trying to beat a storm. We beat the storm haha.
I had a 466 maxxforce in my 2011 rollback. Engine was great, emissions killed it tho. The very best dt engine i ever ran was a dt 408 all mechanical in a 9 int 4700 rollback. 700k and never did anything but routine maintenance. Truck fell apart around the engine. That bastard fired every single time you hit the key. No block heater, no cruise, no electronics on it at all. Never let me down. Onky problem was at about 620k the water pump finally died. Miss that monster
I love how you traced the 466’s roots back to good old IH. IH has a long history of building really good engines. In the AG world, the 361/407 series diesels (predecessor to the 300/400 series subject of this video) were great runners, with legendary life expectancies. (Many are in the 15-20k hour range, without a singe overhaul). The 400 series usually don’t last quite so long, but are so easy to work on it’s almost a non- issue.
466’s are awesome, hands down. I’ve got an Anteater. Originally rated at 150hp on the PTO (probably about 175 flywheel), mine was turning 250 when I bought it. (Most likely 275 or more at the flywheel.) TONS of guys ran their tractors this way, how many other engines can be turned up to almost double their rated output, with little to no consequences to life expectancy? The weak point in tractors was the drivetrain behind the engine… final drives didn’t like an extra 100hp. LOL!
I have no personal experience with a 466 in a truck application, but the results speak for themselves. There’s good reason DT466’s are loved to this day!
Drove a 2007 Durastar rollback at the end of it's life and the engine was about to turn 18k hours without a rebuild. That was mind-blowing. Chassis had a good 370k on it. Then the head gasket blew and amidst all the other issues, management finally decided it was time. I hope it's next owner gets the thing rebuilt and gets the shakes and bent axle worked out of the chassis and runs it even longer
Fall '77 I worked at the Diesel ReNew Center in Springfield, MO.
On the line we were all excited by the new DT-466. They had the Roosamaster Injection pumps.
Western Truck And Tractor Repair is my favourite channel. I watch all of his uploads. Full of knowledge and very entertaining.
You got the bore and stroke right but missed a ton of other stuff.
The engineering; cross flow head, tubular manifolds, high flow water pump, elotherm hardened crank journals, twin spin on fuel and oil filters, dual oil squirters and massive oil cooler.
The engineering budget; I don't have the figure for that... it was massive..
The fuel pump; Bosch 100 single plunger with 23 percent torque rise. And Bosch MW.
I drove a 2012 Durastar with the 466 and it was an incredible machine.
The regen never caused any problems and not needing DEF ever made refueling a breeze.
Would drive one again, 10/10.
I just bought a 2012 durastar with that engine I’m glad to see an encouraging review
As a child, I saw and rode on lots of school buses with DT466s. I've had a liking for the whole DT line since then.
Me too. I remember in the 80's the busses had a DT466 hood ornament.
@@jeffwxyz I became a huge fan after going to a summer camp in 2022 where they used the DT466E engines in 2nd generation International 3800 buses (95-early/mid 04). Loved the sound and I've been told they were quite reliable beasts.
I have DT466 in my light limited super stock pulling tractor that makes over 1500 hp. If I put bigger turbo would make much more.
It was the best engine ever,had tandemmeat haulers with 900km on them and never tore apart,worked on tons of them easy breazy
Had a '87 International medium duty truck with the 466DTA in it. It was very reliable, no problems with it except it was a real dog for power!!!! Every hill was not its friend, (driving in the Northeast). Glad you mentioned its lack of power, other than that it was a good engine.
In my work, I still DT466s running today & I am not surprised. I 100% agree. What an excellent engine.
Going to a summer camp in 2022 where some 2nd generation (1989-early/mid 2004) International 3800 buses had the DT466E engines led me deeper down the International rabbit hole. I already loved the IDI engines and the T444E, and this adds to my love and respect for old Internationals. ♥
we have 3 466's that havent started in 20 years and with a hot battery they all started. they had issues and leaks but all ran and drove
I've got a 79 s1854 with a 466B and I love it with a load only 1 speed slow but it doesn't matter how much I put on it it just pulls thanks for posting
Gotta say I love the turbo whistle I got in my 07 international school bus
I have a customer here in Australia 🇦🇺 with a DT466E import LH drive inter 4700 so I was pretty excited to watch this one as getting info on this is hard here.. parts even harder..
I'm a trained Detroit mechanic so working with HUEI fuel systems has been a bit of a struggle with this.. especially when I have no laptop and can't track down a workshop manual hahah
Had a heart start issue lately the customer had been using ether to get it going wich I want to stop but when it fires it runs smooth as.. replaced the hpop valve, filters, housing lines, getting great oil pressure and fuel pressure but heard cam sensors cause issues.. put a new sensor on but possibly harness but as I said parts are a 3 week wait so it's hard especially when I haven't got the tooling
Had a hard start issue lately thats
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I'm gonna have to disagree with the unreliability of the 1st generation of the HEUI, that's a solid electronic engine, especially compared to others. They have very few issues, all of which are fixed fairly easily. It kinda goes down from there. And the Maxx force version....that poor engine didn't deserve to go out like that.
Also you forgot the dt530, which is just a larger bore and stroke 466.
Getting on the school bus in the early 90s, I remember seeing DT466 on the side of the hood. They never broke down! Except that one time when the whole cabin filled with smoke and we had to evacuate the bus lol
I have a 6 liter power stoke in my 07 350. It’s been a great engine. By 07 they fixed many of the problems. I have always run Mobil Delvac in it. Always used ford filters.
Thank you for history on 466 International ENGINE.
Back when we had a bunch of these in school buses, I don’t recall hardly any issues with them.
Great video. I grew up surrounded by these engine at my dads construction company. He would run the wheels off these “little” motors all day everyday. Over loading the trucks. Pretty much ride them hard and put them away wet. NEVER had one breakdown, blow up, or fail. We still have 3 that we use. All 1984’s with c models. Of those engines I would say my only negative in my option would be the lack of an engine or Jake breaking system. Albeit we would move around 70-80k with them pulling trailers which was far from the normal duty.
Take it from me who works for an international dealership, I see the bad EGR’s daily with serious problems and the gaskets that blow also. The maxxforce wasn’t tested long enough to fix the problems
You know for an engine that can hold 3000+ hp you got alot to say its a motor ive been surrounded with my whole life growin up here in the sticks and farmland ive never seen one with issues theyre better than any cummins…
I love DT466 or DT466E with FGT or VGT turbo. I didn't know the DT466 has EGR System, it could get issues. Don't worry about the 05-08 DT466E with EGR, it was a pre-emissons to get fixed.
The DT466, DT360, & the 6.9/7.3 IDI if taken care of are rly good solid engines.
Don't forget the T444E/7.3 PowerStrokes. 💪
@@myk1_sp , yeah Ik, I just don’t include the T444E cuz it’s an electronic Dsl, & I just listed the mechanical ones that have been around since the 80s. Used to own a T444E, & the truck refused to die.
@@michaelbenoit248 That's reasonable.
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for this. You just covered the bulk of the last 17 years of my career around the 12:00 mark with the DT466E. And its successor the MaxxForce DT. Both are the primary engines used in our fleet up until this last year when our newest trucks arrived with the Cummins L9 350
I think just about every mechanic at any of our garages would agree that the base DT engine itself is quite reliable and fairly simple to work on. Its everything attached to it that causes us grief. The injection system and EGR cooling account for 90% of the problems. Every DT that has needed a sleeve replacement started with an EGR cooler failure. And it usually happens without any warning.
As far as whether or not they are a powerful engine really makes no difference to our users. The trucks drive to the jobsites where they spend the day idling while running the PTO. As you can probably guess, this is a nightmare on the trucks equipped with a DPF; the exhaust never gets hot enough to put the DPF through a regen cycle.
As much as I like the new Cummins engine, I am going to miss our DT series. Simply because I can nearly work on them in my sleep. It will be a few years before we phase out all our DT powered trucks, but I will have some good memories
Maxxforce suck when I was doing roadside repairs on tractors I hated absolutely hated working on them.
@@Back_door_bandit_98 not every Maxxforce sucks but the worst were the 13 15 and 7
Really interesting!
Nicely done.
As a green diesel/truck tech on the late 70's - early 80's, serviced a food service fleet with around 15 IH Cargostars with the DT466's. Damn things were bulletproof, drivers abused the hell out of them - overheating, low on oil, overloaded. Some wore out quick but none ever seized or blew, stupid easy to overhaul in-frame. If ever built a home-made generator that's what I'd use.
How about a video on the International MAX FORCE. How the mighty have fallen.
First 3 steps of working on a dt. Take off inner fenders, remove rain tray and jack up cab mounts
I’ve rode the ic CE school buses 2005-2009 with the Maxxforce DT and dt466e engine. Even those are reliable compared to other engines from the time.
I have the DT466 on my 1986 International truck. Just 1 wire to turn the engine on!!!
Works great to this day
Awesome video!! Thank you
I'm just buying my first DT466 to swap into a loader. Tx for this.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
You should do a video on the DT-530.
Awesome engines strong and sounds great dt 360 dta 360 dt 466 dt 466e wish they didn't stop making them!
I’ve got a DT466e on a 2007 international non Maxxforce thankfully, but it’s got electrical issues like mad. Our shop Found a spot in the harness that causes it to not restart, dealer cannot get the harness and it’s acting like a IDM but if you wiggle this harness near the fuse block it fires back up. 🤨 I’d love to mess with a manual injected one some day.
One of my favorite engines in the medium duty world
Now we need to hear about the DT360
The early 466 had 1 problem. It Idled at 800 rpm and at speed the water pump didn't circulate enough water and it would boil the water between the cylinders and that caused the sleeves to get worm holes and dump water in the oil if it idled for long periods. The dv550 also did a good job if you drove in right. It was a 3250 rpm engine and most drivers didn't want to to wind them up that much. If you ran it at 2100 like most diesels at that time, they would beat themselves apart. Had one 550 that had 450000 on it and never been apart when we sold the truck.
Drive an International single axel DT466, and that was reliable, strong easy to drive and even comfortable
Exelente video del dt466 sería bueno ver uno similar de la historia del Caterpillar 3208 acá en Latinoamérica es otra leyenda saludos 👍
Best channel ever 🤘🏻💯
my first engine rebuild was a Dt466. simple, easy, and was fast to rebuild
Same putting it back together in deisel class rn
@@prestonwall9068 uti diesel engines?
@@guacamoleweiner69 uti?
@@prestonwall9068 alot of my friends disassembly and reassembly on them Dt466 for diesel engines at Universal Technical Institute. I never attended though
@@guacamoleweiner69 oh ya it's in a course like that
When you look at diesels in general picking the best depended on what you were looking for and, in my mind, it was all about longevity, ease of maintenance and reliability even if the cost was in max HP. The electronic engines now days deliver amazing power and versatility, but they are complex and more expensive to fix when problems crop up. Modern diesels are much more stressed than they used to be, and this is more apparent in the lighter units for smaller vehicles. Mechanical failures in areas that used to be a diesels strong point are common now. For me my heavy fully cast-iron Toyota 2H diesel in my Landcruiser is great. Yes, it's under powered and slow but I know it will never let me down and at 500,000 Kilometers it is just getting started in life. I also know if I have to there is nothing on it that I can't fix myself without me having to mortgage the house to finance.
We had a 966 tractor with turbo. We were afraid it would suck fuel like crazy. It burned less fuel than the tractors half it's size. It had power to spare. Because it burned so little fuel , it became our go to tractor for everything.
The DT-466, DT-408 and DT-360 are all great inline 6 diesel's if well maintained. They can can last thousands of miles.
Millions
I was a mechanic at a local school bus garage during the early to mid 90s and these were very good engines, even though they were put into the crappy Vista school bus design
Never underestimate Ford's role in some of the 6.0 and 6.4 problems.
Yes Ford ask international for a cheaper engine and international said the only way it can get any cheaper is by cutting corners, like removing head bolts and Ford said lets do it, than there was a lot of problem and of course the consumer got and engine design for 200 hp and Ford sold them with 300 hp since they were not pushing a school bus or a box truck but a light weight pick up truck, so Mr John Doe took that motor to a guy he knew and bumped the hp to 600 and that's when trouble started which landed on internationals lap and there was a bigger problem. International didn't want to fix an engine they knew was ran at twice the hp but couldn't prove it and Ford stop payment on new engines at the tune of $800 mills , so International stop sending new engine to Ford and both landed in court. After everything settle Ford ask International to build them an entire new engine and when they were half way done with the new engine Ford said, we are going to stop right here and took the new half finished engine, paid International for their work and later finished the engine them selves a.k.a the new 6.7 which many think is a Ford new creation when in reality was built by International. and that folks is the story of the worst and the best Ford diesel engines in pic up trucks.
@@herygarcia6193 where is your sources
@@herygarcia6193 I heard pretty much the same thing from my friend that is a regional manager for Navistar. He’s worked for Navistar for over 30 years.
@@gabesnyder5747 look it up.
@@herygarcia6193 can’t find any info that international bulit half the 6.7
Here in the UK these were fitted to TD15C and 175 LOADERS These engines had a bad habbit of running away knocking holes in he crank case Trucks faired a bit better
You had the DT408, DT466 and DT530 all built on the same block. Just different bores and strokes. Standard and High Torque applications with or without aftercooling. DTA and HT. The DT/DTA360 was a 5.9 that is built even more stout than the cummins and is also a wet sleeve block. Can order your Sleeves and Pistons in any bore you want. The DT/DTA360 is rumored to hand 1500hp on a stock block.
The Pre HEUI injection system is the engine you want. The 87-98 engines.
That's interesting. I have a DT466e in my school bus I bought last year. I love driving it around, and I've always loved the sound of a straight-six engine. Just out of curiosity, how much power can a DT466 make on a stock block?
@@r0ckworthy DT466 is the go to for truck/tractor pulls. 2000+hp
@@bladenrexroth2555 Incredible :) I'd love to do an intake, a through-the-hood exhaust, and there must be some type of chip tune for it, but honestly the thing I don't like about my bus is the stupid, 3 speed, non-lockup torque converter automatic transmission. I've recently learned there are Spicer 5 and 6 speed manuals for the DT466, and that might be the big upgrade for my bus.
@@r0ckworthy you'll want the Spicer TX14607B 7 speed aka the 6+1. Gives you a deep 9.24 1st gear and .75 overdrive. Take all the emissions crap off and swap over to mechanical injection. Kind of like p pumping a 24 valve. Same recipe. With a well tuned A pump, HX35 or HX40 turbo, mechanical lift pump and timing You should see 350hp minimum. Only thing else to figure out is rear end gear ratio and tire size. Bus should be pretty fuel efficient if it turned 1500-1600 rpm at 65-66 mph. With having peak torque as low as 1200 rpm you'd be well over 1200#ft of TQ
Drove the 466e and loved it.
It has a good balance between power and economy.
No DEF, either, thanks to the regen.
We are building a Warehouse on the old international plant in Indianapolis off of brookville rd. That place is highly contaminated. There is oil coming out of the ground and is everywhere.
I can confirm that the DT466E has indeed a ton of electrical issues. Manly with the injectors
I run dt466 in my light limited super stock pulling tractor. Making over 1500 hp and turning over 5000 rpms. Stock crank and rod.
International actually bought out a German engine company called NEUSS and that's where those engines originated from
I believe the 6.0 is still being used for military purpose in the British Husky. Brits love them. Obviously can’t be that bad if you set them up properly.
Military is usually emissions exempt.
Rebadged as a Detroit Series 40 & 40E and Perkins 1300 series. Reliable engine in Au.
Navistar fell into a tech trap and their engineers insisted (or the head of engines did) that you did not need EGR at the time to meet emissions. There was a massive failure across the engine line including the 6.0/6.4 Powerstroke (one way to reduce emissions is a bigger engine, lower temps) which had no background in EGR from the rest of Navistar. When Navistar hit the deadlines they were going on banked emissions and at a dead end. Cummins was contracted to supply engine and emissions systems and still do though Navistar did come out with a couple of engines afterwards, using EGR. Now EGR is an option with some engines doing it without it though DOC, Urea and or Particulate may be. Lots of advances in combustion.
So hard finding information on these engines. Great video, but needs some more information. Specifically on the injection pump models.
A video on the John Deere 6466-6076 engine would be interesting
The company I drive for still has 2 trucks with DT466E's. Not very impressive on power but great motors. Never have any problems with them
You are correct
The mechanical ones were reliable but the eltronic ones seem to have issues
Not sure if you did the 7.3 powerstroke . That would be a cool video
I wish Internstional would try to make their engine again. Or maybe bring back the styling of the 4700 medium duty and 9000s heavy duty.
coolant filter is very important on these
The EPA should go after all the drive through fast food places!
I have to disagree with your opinion on the VT375 ( 6.0). It's not a trash engine, but it is high maintenance and most people don't know how to take care of them.
On the international side, we didn't have the same problem as what was delt with on the Ford side. Ford did swap some things around on the 6.0 that international did not recommend, and that's what gave the 6.0 a bad reputation.
VT365/6.0 has a very a stout bottom end. I just took mine apart after 250,000 miles. Bearings looked decent for the age and the pistons looked excellent. Bores were
Still round and no taper.
@@Bacongrease00
Not many of those engines suffered catastrophic failures unless it was abused or poorly maintained.
I was working for Ford when they first hit in the back end of 03. Our biggest problems then was people treating them like they could a 7.3 and get away with it. We always had FICM issues due to weak batteries, injection issues most of the time was due to poor oil usage. VGT's not responding due to carbon build up from long idle time's.. of course we did deal with the common EGR problems and the oil leaks at the HPOP, but most of the time it was poor maintenance, especially during those day's when tuning was still fairly new.
Overall, I'd gladly take a 6.0 over a 6.6 or a 24v Cummins. Even the problematic 6.4s I actually like, mostly due to the sheer power that engine can produce with minimal funds spent.. until the injectors stick open or a block cracks on you. 😅
In my opinion, the 6.0 got a bad rap because of Ford and because of poor information at the time. Now, the information is there and if maintenance is done properly they can and will last just as long as a 7.3 or 12v Cummins can.
@@bryancenterfitt7127 I agree. The Maxxforce version however is absolutely junk. Makes a ton of power but breaks quickly.
Could you do a review of the DT530?
HI I have 2001 dt466 is in the mechanic shop they changed all the injectots but engine oil going to diesel tank do you now what could be the problem?
Thank you so much for this video, I've got a 1991 school bus and love this engine, but had no idea of it's potential or greatness until this video.I've got about 250,000 miles on this and it seems to put out a little smoke sometimes but I don't mind, it feels awesome, do these usually go alot more miles before needing anything significant? mostly it sits still, it's my home and I don't drive it much at all , but start it and run it through the gears monthly. IS 30 MINUTE WARM UP GOOD? Any recommendations for keeping it so dependable? like i said THANKS SO MUCH!
The D50 (recommended rebuild mileage) on them is about 500,000 miles I believe. It should give you years of good service before you get to that point. That’s the IH recommendation. That being said, there’s stories of folks going a million miles with them, taking them for rebuild, and the mechanics saying ‘why did you bring me this engine? There’s still crosshatch in the cylinder bores, this things as mint as the day she came off the line.’
In my option, it’s less about the miles and more about the heat cycles. If you do nothing but 900 mile days, where the engine goes 900 miles on one heat cycle, it’ll last forever. If you just drive it around town, the heat cycles will build up and cause wear to the motor.
At the end of the day, the miles you’ll put on a school bus, (reguardless of if it’s converted to a camper or whatever), you’re unlikely to get to the mileage number that you’d begin to wear internal engine components. The engineers that built that engine built it to last. It’s one of the old reliable built like a brick shithouse engines, like a CAT 3406, or a big cam Cummins, or a 5.9 Cummins, or a DT444 (7.3 powerstroke) that’s built to last. They built those motors to outlive their owners.
@@cnf6045 thank you, I feel lucky to live in this machine!
This was an awesome history! I'm wondering if you have any opinions about the last version... we're looking at a 2006 International ambulance with 107K miles... DT466 with EGR stock. Should we stay away?
Its a used ambulance so it might as well be a 6.4 with a check engine light
Can you please talk about the Perkins 6.354
Please do a 2 stroke diesel break down please
if a product is in your house, it probably was in a 466 powered vehicle at one point from raw materials to finished product delivery.
DT/DTA360!
It is interesting to compare the review and the comments to the reality of the Legend engines, just called the I6. The plant and engineering center are now torn down, the old Buick aviation plant.
There is a lot to the history of the I6. I would give the video a grade of 20-25% accuracy.
A good story would be how the I6 engine caused the Cummins B to be developed when the feud happened between the Engine Group and the AG Group. Melrose Park and Burr Ridge were 30 minutes apart but were worlds apart. Burr Ridge got tired of Melrose Park lying, so they worked with Cummins to make the B AG engine.
The feud with Manny at Bosch and Melrose Park caused the CAT FEUI to be developed, yes FEUI, not HEUI. Ford insisted on the HEUI and refused to allow Melrose to design their electronics. The electronics was Ford and a third party contractor based from Burr Ridge personnel.
Fascinating comments. I agree about the accuracy of the video. My dad worked for International from 1957 to 1963 when he bought a small dealership in NE Ohio. I started full time in 1975 just as the DT was being introduced. A customer in Canton Oh supposedly had some of the first test trucks in 1973. Fleetstars. I seem to recall the original injection pumps were Stanadyne.
I’ve not heard about the inter division feuding you mention but it doesn’t surprise me. Dad had quite a few stories like that.
Lots of iron. International made their gas engines the same way. They made their own components back in the day, so they had oversight of everything. Legendary!
I have a MF dt in our bus. Hoping to "fix" it and buy years. Only has 70k on it. When it goes south may try to re power it.
Was there a marine version of the DT 466?
Novice here, looking into buy a 2011 international 3800 school bus with the DT466E, (150k). Some love it lots hate it. Maybe I should keep looking. Reliability is my #1 priority.
Any thoughts and comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
The six cilinder tractors build in Neuss Germany had D-358 and DT-402 engines. Are these German engines build in the same architecture as the DT-466 engine ? Or are they a completely different design ?
I just don't have positive memories with the mid-80's naturally aspirated DT466 (hooked to a Spicer straight 7spd) in S-Series city tractors. Yeah, they usually got me back at the end of the day. I'll give them that. I'd rather run one of the 2300's with the L-10's we used for road routes. And they just sucked, man. By '92 we were quickly changing over to Ford's Aeromax with the M-11/10 spd. I loved those Fords, man.
Ahh ANY DT in a truck was turbocharged. Starting with the first test units in 1973. L10 was no doubt stronger. 10L vs 7.6L. No substitute for cubic inches.
a lady at my job use to work for Navistar lol ....
Entonces muy enterado y bien descriptiva su explicación del los motores 466 , lovq entendí es el 466e es actual mente el de mejor reputación.
Y desde q años está del 1996 al 2009?!
Entonces del 1999 al 2004 son los más Fiables y no 😞 problemático 😂
Estaré muy agradecido y el costo actual de☺️de esos motores hoy en día 2023 cuál eso precio en dólares EUA reconstruido y confiables
Is it possible to replace a T444e with a t466e in my 2002 International school bus.-
The only thing I would disagree with here is that the DT-466E is not unreliable, it's just different... and the key is keeping the oil clean.
Hate trying to put piston rings in😂