The New Air Force One: What We Know So Far
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- Опубліковано 27 гру 2024
- Air Force One is probably the most recognizable plane in the world. While the VC25Bs, which will be designated Air Force One when the president is onboard, won’t be delivered until 2024, some details about the upgrade are already in the public domain. Here’s what we know about the replacement Air Force One so far.
Here’s what we know about the replacement Air Force One so far.
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The 747-8 is a fabulous machine, so glad they’ll be flying for decades to come.
I agree with you. For me, the 747-8 is one of the best aircraft in the world
I'm glad that the Queen of the Skies will still be airborne for many many years to come!
Really?
@Chris Kibb paint job isn’t official yet
I can think of a dozen things America needs more than this plane. Btw, the United States military exists by and for one reason. To protect the dollar. No weapon in thier arsenal is more powerful. Take care.
Sadly, the King if the skies won't.
@@drivenbyrage5710 The president is going to need a plane. And if you look at the cost of keeping the current ones flying you can buy new planes pretty easy. The US air force is about the only people still flying the-200 series. I just looked not one 200 is flying right now. Even cargo companies are getting rude of them. The new parts inventory is gone and they have to resource or make new parts. Even the doomsday planes may not make it much longer. This is not a B52 that sits on a flight line 90% of the time.
Taking away the on air refuel capability is a big mistake.
No it isn't.
Dont they still have the Doomsday plane so its all good if they need a mobile war room
It'll be nuclear powered. 😁
@@ce1834 you mean the E4-B? It's older than the air force one to be replaced
@@RobbieIsbell A nuclear powered 747? What? Since when?
Surprised that it won’t have the mid air refuel capability.
I'm also shocked. This should definitely be a "no questions asked" feature. Dam.
It does seem like an odd omission. Part of me can /sort/ of understand the reasoning (note "understand" does not equal "agree with"): the current aircraft were spec'd toward the end of the Cold War, so being able to stay airborne indefinitely in the event/threat of a nuclear exchange or some other global catastrophe would have been important. When the specification for these aircraft was being put together, that kind of exchange was considered a more remote possibility, the west having spent the last two decades in asymmetric conflicts. I could see someone deciding the aircraft was less of a contingency plan and more just a VIP transport... and the 8 has plenty of range to deal with that. Of course, since then everyone has been swinging back toward gearing up for a peer-state conflict again, so that sort of thinking is suddenly looking out of date itself.
I wonder how much money that omission actually saved.
Doesn't make sense does it ?
In the years that the current planes have been flown, at no time has the aerial refueling ever been used while a passenger was on the aircraft. It’s simply thought to be too dangerous a task to be used with the President aboard unless no other option is available. In the mean time, it means that the maneuver must be practiced by the pilots over and over again on a regular basis since it is a skill that requires very regular practice to remain proficient. Finally, this bird will have huge range with hours of loitering time as built since it will come with enlarged fuel tanks etc. That is if they don’t want to fly it fast since it will be one of the fastest airliners remaining in the skies. But that’s a different discussion.
So it’s probably a reasonable thing to leave off the aircraft.
@@Bill_N_ATX That’s a fair point. Isn’t it safe to say however that AF1 has a lot of other features that never get used as well? Same with the Beast, it never had to drive on just the wheel with no tire, but it can if needed to keep the president safe.
I like the "Jackie Kennedy" color scheme.
I do as well. Only a putz like Trump would say something like he did.
Outdated though. It looks very art deco.
the baby blue looks geahhh, doest look American at all
@@scottyee707 but it looks very Air Force One-ish
And because Trump lost it's staying.
I am pleased and very proud they are using the Boeing 747-800! The 747 has always been the Queen of the Skies. Its beautiful, recognizable and majestic just like the American Eagle!
I really hope the livery doesn't change. Rejecting dark colors was done specifically because Kennedy thought it was too regal, too monarch-ish. George Washington originally wore a baby blue ribbon across his chest to distinguish his rank as commander in chief, so I think it has a cool precedent. The well placed swoops give the plane an eliminate of moving forward, echoing the American spirit of progress, where the new scheme is very static. Plus, the polished aluminum accent is so unique. I have a hard time believing anyone could look at the new scheme and say its more interesting and dynamic than the current one that has remained iconic for half a century.
Air Force One has been painted as such for more than half a century. It and photographs of it are synonymous with America, it has been there for every major foreign, and many domestic historic events. It is a part of our culture now. Personally I think it projects a level of self confidence that strong colors which scream, "look at me, fear me," cannot. It is a tradition ten presidents have honored, I cannot think of any good reason it is not good enough for the 11th.
That said, I'm glad it does not have black or gold in it, and at least the dark blue and red has a traditional nautical feel to it (and of course American). If I was lucky enough to own a yacht it'd have a dark blue hull. But it feels super basic and boring, like it is trying too hard to be strong. Or if you told a 10th grader to come up with a color scheme this would be it. And again, the static feeling of the straight lines doesn't compare to the swoops that invoke forward movement and progress that our country traditionally has valued. Maybe if they could lighten the blue a bit more?
your comment that the dark colours looking 'monarch-ish' is appropriate because Chump is trying to create a monarchy for the USA. He hates democracy, and doesn't believe in it. I doubt, however, if he got his way, the monarchy would be passive, such as that in the UK, but more like a dictatorship (North Korean style).
@@sgthree Haha. Trump will indeed do that!😂
Should paint that sumbitch solid black ! I would also put the grim reaper on the tail. I mean if you're going to make a statement....MAKE IT COUNT !
AF1's beautiful color scheme was designed by industrial designer Raymond Loewy, who designed a number of American icons, include the Coca Cola bottle, GM's Scenicruiser bus, various Studebakers, logos for TWA, Shell Oil, Exxon, USPS--the list goes on. That blue was picked by Jackie Kennedy, and should be retained in her memory. Donald Trump has no knowledge of this--or respect for history.
@@Greatdome99 It seems he does know that as he said it’s “too Jackie Kennedy”. I don’t have any issue with changing the livery. I’d want the new planes to look new. Even American icon brands change their logos and designs occasionally.
One of the most and heavily modified expensive planes in the world. Can't wait to see the new birds
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@@annndukumutua833 hey Ann
Yep and Trump wont F it up
They should retain the classic livery originally designed Raymond Loewry. The new proposed livery makes it look like some flying casino.
a bankrupt flying casino
@@dereklwashington1132 exactly!
@@dereklwashington1132 I've only been in one trump building, Trump Plaza. I was so happy to see it imploded.
The "classic" look is ugly as hell.
@@dereklwashington1132 beat me to it!
747-8 was absolutely the right choice. And I’m hoping that the publicity may give her one last hurrah
Trump in a nutshell.
U r an idiot
@@gmitchellfamily This project was started with the Obama administration and the plane won’t even been completed before Trump leaves office you fucking idiot.
@@gmitchellfamily Greg you are a nutshell.
She’ll get more than one hurrah
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Definitely the Jackie look is more classy. By the comments here im one of many who wish to see the legacy continue
Af1 will be done just in time for our real President to come back.
Yeah, it's an outdated 1960's look.
No
Yes, absolutely, the 747-800 is a excellent choice to continue the AF1 fleet. The "Queen" of the skies is one of the most reliable and safe airframes flying and with a 40 plus flying history, these will serve the U.S. for many decades. The 747 is an amazing airplane to fly and is very forgiving.
I hope they change their mind on the livery to something more modern. It looks like an 90s simple design.
Strangely, the Kennedy livery looks more modern.
Livery is not only generic and classless...it removes the intent of the original design that the specific blue blends with the sky
That new livery looks like a tube of Colgate toothpaste
Agreed. The Lowry design is timeless and, after so long, iconic.
Nikki Haley is going to be the first president to fly on that. Watch it happen.
That's primer you clown
I like my planes minty fresh and cavity free
@@FuneralGraveMemorial hopefully not! She's a warmongering NEOCON 👎
The new paint scheme/livery looks remarkably similar to Trump's private 757 livery. That being said, I prefer the AF1 old livery. Maybe a slight refresh is needed, but not a complete redesign to a classic.
For the most part, the colors are just inverted, But Trump's plane looks a lot better.
It is the Trump Shuttle livery.
Yea it’s a bad livery
@calodo2002 Technically, Trump could lose this cycle and win the next, being the first to fly in it.
@calodo2002 he has done nothing illegal. Other people have done far worse and have not repercussions.
I loved the old color scheme but I also look forward to the new scheme. Looks great in my opinion.
The older, blue paint scheme will stay
I can't recall the exact reasons but the very dark blue for the underside was going to cause (thermal?) difficulties along the fuselage I read somewhere. Anyway, I'm happy they reversed that choice back to the traditional scheme.
Glad we will keep 747’s as Air Force One, however, I don’t believe in changing the paint scheme, the current paint scheme is iconic, everyone who sees it knows its USA, somethings shouldn’t change!
The new one looks ugly IMO
The new one looks gorgeous IMO
@@gendaminoru3195 Agreed. The old livery was okay, but to me the color combo just didn't look American enough.
Am I the only one who thinks the current livery, with its swoops and Caslon lettering, looks very dated?
@@simonbone no, I think so too
The 747-8 is the perfect choice for replacing the current VC-25 Air Force One jets.
The original color scheme should stay on the next Air Force One.
I actually quite like the refresh, it’s a less flashy and simple, but like professional simple.
Yep I like the original too
747 is the right choice because it has a phenomenal cabin configuration
The new livery looks so old already. It looks like a retro livery from the '90s.
Too “Trump Airlines”?
Huh..you want Boeing to release a color update....?
looks like an old American Airlines livery
@@simonford7806 or United Airlines
Not a fan of the revised colors.
I had really hope I don’t see that boring livery on the plane. The old design was made
To be simplistic but also sharp to the eye. The new one isn’t even that symbolic it’s just stupid.
747 is the most beautiful plane! I wouldn’t choose any other plane to represent the United States! 🇺🇸
You are just like me the 747 is the best plane in the world
Glad they didn't go with a 737-Max instead! LOL
Too bad they are retiring the old livery. Looks really cool and is iconic.
no it doesnt
@@ant2312 You are in the minority my friend.
I’m am surprised that Trump did not make it look like his 757. I could give trump credit for the red white and blue but I kind of prefer the current livery.
I think i'm only one that seems an little reesemble of the last TWA's Globe ambassador livery (before to be takedown by AA) with these kind of colors combo?
I agree that it's iconic, but IMHO the chromed lower area was looking a bit dated.
Nothing really screams "Air force 1"
Without that iconic baby blue color
Saving money is one thing, but forgoing capability by omitting air refueling capability is another. I don't think this was a wise choice.
I wouldn't let him negotiate anything. Too many bankruptcies, lies, etc.,
The only time AF1 need to use the the refuel function is when US soil is being attacked and need to keep planes in the sky for extended period of time. If that is the case, President most likely will be in the E-4B 747, “flying pentagon” which can stand up against a nuclear blast and has refueling. Regular 747 AF1 can’t stand up against nuclear blast. More reasonable to save $1.4B then having a function that will never be used even in time of war.
I agree if another terrorist attack like 9/11 happens the safest place may well be the skies like they were for George W Bush and goodness knows how long it can stay airborne. also if an emergency happens and the US president was perhaps in Australia or halfway to us in the UK and an emergency happens with no time for stopovers or immediate turnarounds the plane may run out of fuel so definitely not the wisest choice. also what's another billion dollars even if it doesn't get used. safety should be priority for any leader no matter if you like them or not.
@@kingofcastlechaos Trump enterprises has over 500 business in their portfolio. Only six have filed for bankruptcy. That's a failure rate of only 1.2% which is a phenomenal rate of success in the business world when on average 20% of new businesses fail during the first two years of being open, 45% during the first five years, and 65% during the first 10 years. Only 25% of new businesses make it to 15 years or more.
Just sayin...
@@carbonking53 sure. Can you speak to the percentage of outrageous lies to words spoken? I'm sure you have that already prepared and pre-spun, but go for it anyway.
No mid air refueling is surprising. I can't believe they would do something like that.
really stupid mistake
The likelihood of the President needing it is much less now, especially that it has extended range to where it can land at a safe location for the president.
@@Ccs4646 The whole point of that was in case there was nowhere he could safely land, so it's still a foolish thing to leave out
Do you really think the manufacture / military will tell the world all the hidden goodies built into a plane that carries some of the most important people in the Free World. .... come on really?
@@raddad10 Hidden goodies doesn't mean that there will be mid-air refueling after they explicitly said there won't be.
Proud to say I worked on the VC-25.
I actually like the new colour scheme, but fear the actual design won't age well. The baby blue has however become a classic, so tips the point for me
Idk this new paint scheme looks like a Malaysian paint scheme.
The old (and current) one is -in my opinion- better looking.
id say scrap that"in my opinion", but i see you thought of it before me. nice.
Yes that’s true but if Biden wins, it will get the old livery as far as I know
The “new design” looks like a modified Transaero livery. JS
I hope it wasnt going to be shot down like the mh17
@Good Krypollo yea
Rumor has it, Jack asked Jackie to approve final drawings of paint scheme and colors for AF-1. Camelot never existed, but they did, many in 2021 push back hard against any color or, design changes, as AF-1 is so recognizable and iconic, like both of its designers.
Yes, but please leave the "old" livery !!!!
Don't worry, they'll never use the Trump design.
@@DonChartier Maybe Biden will change back the livery
It hasn’t changed. Then again that discussion is probably just getting underway. There is a commission set up to handle the livery of govt planes They review and vote. I’m sure they take in a Presidents wishes. That said. I think it should and will remain as is. The “look” is very powerful yet understated. It shows class. It speaks power and to see it, is to be awed by the beholder
the old scheme look so god dam good
Keep the existing livery. It is iconic and distinguish from any other livery. The proposed livery looks too much like the last US Airways livery before they became American Airlines.
Look at Trump’s private 757 jet... then you will know why he changed the look of the new Air Force One.
People should start a petition to keep it the way it has (nearly) always been .
The new livery also almost much like our own British Airways jets! Copyright law! Please ditch it President Biden and keep the current livery cos it is much more recognisable all over the world including in my country Great Britain!
As of January 25, 2021, the paint hasn't even been ordered.
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Keep the blue paint job, it's iconic.
Glad it will have those new GE Gen 9X engines! That might be the reason they wouldn't need to refuel in the air. Each engine produces 134,000 pounds of thrust plus they are the most fuel efficient engines that can also run on biofuels. The 747=800s bubble on top is the length of a 737 oh those engines are the same size of the fuselage of the 737.
The upcoming Air Force One/ VC-25B (ex Transaero):
1. N894BA (ex EI-MOW)
2. N895BA (ex EI-TSO)
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I've already saw people making claims its becasue Trumps likes Russia.
@@kylecampbell1444 Its because Transaero went tits-up before they could take delivery, so the planes were owned by Boeing.
Soon to be re-registered SAM 30000 and SAM 31000. And OF COURSE because Russia... thats ALWAYS the answer, seems some people forget the cold war ended 30+ years ago (dear gad, that makes me old!)
@@NavyGuy2OO7 Yeah I know that but have saw people before saying its Russian ties becasue people try to make something out of nothing all the time.
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Perfect choice for the next Air Force One.
The good thing is that the Queen of the Skies will still be flying post 2050 at
least.
No way!
All todays aircraft will be gone very soon just like our other things we play with.
@@Triggernlfrl The current one is the last -200 outside of Iran... so idk
@@james-baa1249 The world as we know it won't last that long
Thomas Jager um, yeah they will be around that long you don't just scrap a VP transport after a few years
The color S U C K S ... The old plane was beautiful and impressive...
It said something ABOUT AMERICA .. This one looks like every commercial
bird in the sky .. ..
You just can not improve on perfection, not even with red white and blue .. .. ..
For all those asking why they got rid of in-air refueling, there are currently no cases of it actually being used in the entire time it's been made available, so they didn't add it to save some money, and to reduce weight.
i can imagine a 748 with old school gauges to make it "EMP Proof"
LMFAO
I wouldn't be surprised if it would have steam guages.
lol
Damnit, why did I start thinking of Battlestar Galactica?
@@captainsinclair7954
Idk. BSG… mmmmmmmmmm yes
My favorite is plane is a 747. Excellent choice 747 for Air Force One.
I love the old baby blue.
I think the aircraft is perfect, but I prefer the current livery.
Agreed. The proposed livery looks brutish compared to the current one which is rather sleek.
Yeah the current livery looks way better. Hope it doesn’t get the red or dark blue colors
The 747-8 was the only choice.
The livery may still need some work.
I want the same traditional paint job!!!!!
I'm pleased to know that the 747 will still be flying, safest plane in the air. I do however wish they had kept In flight refueling.
I doubt any president would want to spend 20 hours plus on a plane
Safest plane in the air~? Are you off your head?
There's no need for aerial refueling when, in a national emergency, the President would be moved to an E-4B anyways (E-4s have the capability, too).
Did not know that actually. thanks for mentioning that. I thought mid air refueling was a bad thing to take out to start but didnt realize the president uses a different plane in an emergency. one problem tho. what if the emergency happens mid flight and they cant risk transferring him to the other plane on the ground? I still think they should keep mid air refueling on the main air force one just for the fact that we can never forsee the future. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
@@ryannfodrea632 Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the Air Force would always plan for the VC-25 AF1 to be within range of scores of friendly/secured bases or airports to choose from - impossible to attack all of them at once. Some ground element like the National Guard would secure any of these locations in a pinch. Not only does that lower the risk of an attack upon landing, but the attackers will also be confused as to which specific vehicle the President was transferred to (multiple AF1s, Marine Ones, etc).
@@eddietat95 I suppose ur right. Not all that likely to be an issue. I just thing it would be better to be prepared for the absolute worst. What if a lot of bases aren't operational for whatever reason?
Think E-4B = warplane and VC-25 = comfort plane. The Air Force really doesn't want the President to be on the VC-25 for too long during an attack.
@@ryannfodrea632 No, you're right in a way. In some terrible scenario where VC-25 is either damaged or otherwise out of range of a secured LZ, then it may go down without aerial refueling. That would be more likely abroad where allies may deny airspace as they please. In that case, the Air Force majorly screwed up somewhere else (lack of air supremacy, bad intel/planning/coordination, unchecked airspace, etc.).
Best choice.....ultra reliable, structurally solid and have great handling characteristics.
New Air Force One livery looks like British Airways lmao
I’m happy it’s still the 747
I would imagine that in air refuelling is essential despite seldom being used, just in case for an emergency
We don't know if President Bush had to use the in air refueling feature when he was flying around during the national emergency on 9/11.
They have other planes in that case.
I guess you know more then the actual contracting office that will use the plane.
No mid air refueling is major blunder. Huge.
agreed, just cuz they don't need it frequently doesn't negate it's usefulness. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Well, cutting the cost of the contract has consequences
@@ryannfodrea632 plus the GEnx-2Bs are already fuel efficient compared to the GE CF6-80C2 on the VC-25A. Which gives the -8 longer range.
Ever wondered how Lufthansa 747-8s make such really long trips? That's how...
AF1 story, Working on the construction of the Atlanta airport years ago Air Force 1 was parked on the tarmac. Went through some side doors to go out to look at it and passed a electrician who was laughing. He told a coworker "you should go inside, the electronics are incredible". This guy starts up the stairs to go inside , Secret Service "what the hell are you doing, get you ass down from there".
Yeah, that livery looks like something you would see on a toy plane.
That paint scheme is just a flip of the paint job on Trump's corporate jet. A way for him to put his grimy fingerprints on another American icon after he gets thrown out of office. Hopefully President Biden will cancel that change on January 21, 2021.
They will put it in now
Something from China!
@@kennyhenry7432 It reminds me of the old, Taiwan-based, China Airlines' livery.
Not surprizing since it came from a toy president. You knew someone would say it. :)
I am partial to the old scheme. Leave well enough alone. To me the new colors are loud.
The old colors are ugly, dated, and have nothing to do with our country. The new colors are patriotic, finally. Thank God.
@@jwilde801 Does this mean we need to repaint Marine 1 as well? Marine 1 is green so we need to repaint it red white and blue so we can shove red white and blue on everything for some reason.
@@jwilde801 Funny, I find the livery that has served to carry our Presidents since Kennedy to be innately patriotic. The blue used in the new livery doesn't even match the color of the flag or the blue used in the US seal... It's on the verge of being purple it's so dark. No, I will take the livery produced by a design legend and approved by one of the greatest Presidents ever, over the bizarre bad design choices of a failed reality tv star any day.
That new livery is as loud as the person who made the change. The old livery is iconic, everyone in the world knows that when that plane arrives, the most powerful person in the world has entered the building. If it isn't broken, don't fix it, right?
Love the new AF1
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The 747 needs to live on forever! Gorgeous plane. I'd love to see it keep the current colors though.
It looks aged and dated compared to the A380
Biden needs to change it back to the original colors. They probably haven’t painted them yet.
That and since President-elect Biden will have to use the present planes and helicopter I hope they are first thoroughly fumigated to get rid of four years of agent orange contamination plus the White House too and the limos while they're at it.
@Eric Ferguson planes don’t need to be camouflaged 😂, especially the Presidents, they have stealth technology onboard that makes it invisible to enemy radar... you’re a beta 🤡
That’s what also came to my mind.
Dude
Biden wont
Classic Kennedy? Or classic Pepsi? I’m partial to the way it currently looks. Nothing political about my decision.
Hope they change Colors back Old design and get rid of the Delta look he pick*
Keep the Jackie Kennedy colors!!! Far more dignified!! The planned livery resembles a gaudy circus wagon.
..with Italian marble floors and gold toilets.
Well Donald trump whated a new Air Force One and whated a new colours
@@LiamBryan184 And Donald Trump gets anything he whats... (except a 2nd term.)
Democrats want the hideous Kennedy colors, wonder why.
@@VaporheadATC why?
I’m glad the queen of the sky will still flying around. ✈️
747's are the only way to fly on long flights. You have dinner, watch a movie or two, go to sleep - unless you're me. Then you go to the back of the plane where the party is.
(1) 747-8 definitely the right choice (2) Change of Livery-BAD choice (3)No re-fueling ability-Bad choice better to have and not need (4) I had heard that purposely, a sitting president does NOT travel as president in aircraft over which he has had design influence. (5) If Trump really influenced the price drop, good, that's his job.
It will have refueling capability. There is no way in hell any plane that is dedicated to caring the president is not going to have refueling capability. That’s just propaganda my friend
@@RevolverOcelot79 I'd believe what you said before I'd believe the opposite.
3) Mid-air refueling is completely unnecessary. This Aircraft will have longer range than the present VC-25.
It will have longer range than a standard 747-8 due to the relatively light loads carried by these aircraft.
4) JFK flew in 26000 and 27000, the Jackie 707s
@@apaulmcdonough2170 That is in correct sir. It needs refueling capabilities so they can stay up in the air almost in definitely in case of an emergency. For example, as 9/11 was perpetrated the president was shuttled aboard Air Force One in Koppe Pear four very long time until the situation could be properly assessed. He would’ve never been able to do that without mid air refueling and a constant escort of fighters.
@@RevolverOcelot79 on 9/11 President Bush wasn't kept in the air continuously. He was shuttled between a few different Air Force Bases. Neither 28000 nor 29000 has ever mid-air refueled with any POTUS aboard in there 30 year careers.
Any MAR done on 9/11 would have been for the Fighter Escort.
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You can't always know before takeoff, or at pre-flight briefing, exactly how and where the aircraft will be employed for the duration of the coming flight. These aircraft (and their passengers and crew, for that matter) have to be entirely flexible and adaptable for whatever comes their way, whether on leg one of twelve, or on an extended campaign flight that turns into the last flight at the end of the world. Don't go and think you're qualified to determine what the plane needs and does not when you're not one of the people being paid to think ahead to the unthinkable.
I imagine they’ll end up with a fleet of four. Two VC25Bs and two modified Overtures
That's not happening. The 747 is about a year from being done. Some of tooling has already been sold off.
Note. The price tag includes two 747-8s
Honestly I can’t think of anything better than this one, I like the color theme, blue gold and light blue
A jet black would be pretty cool. Lol.
I think it's probably the best choice for AF1. 4 engines for redundancy, though I'd love to have seen a 7779x as the next AF1. The 747 also offers the upper deck for the added communications and defense systems/monitoring.
But next time Air Force One needs replacing, there won't be any four engined planes to choose from. A380 is ending production (and insistence on final assembly in the USA "for security" scuppered any chances of an A380 anyway), and 747 is also ending. There's nothing left. Next time will have to be either something like 777X or competing/successor aircraft, or modify a four engine military transport aircraft.
@@owensmith7530 Will worry about that when we are all in nursing homes.
Nothing about redundancy. All about electrical power.
@@johnp139 Not true. 4 engines means Air Force One does not have to obey ETOPS rules, it can go where they want.
@@owensmith7530 Twins these days (like 777X or 787) can fly almost anywhere under extended ETOPS rules. And I doubt AF1 - being non-commercial - would have to follow ETOPS rules anyway.
When the president is on board, the aircraft is only designated “Air Force One” if it is an aircraft operated by the Air Force.
The helicopters that potus uses to get from the white house to the airport is operated by the marines and is designated “Marine One”
And if for some bizarre reason the president should get on board any non-military aircraft (United, American or Delta) it will be designated “Executive One”
Thank you! Never knew that.
@@maga6252 Furthermore, the "(Service) 1" callsign applies to any military aircraft bearing the POTUS, not just the familiar USAF and USMC aircraft. When G.W. Bush flew out to meet a carrier, the plane became "Navy 1."
Will they put mcas on it? To make it "safer"
Good choice
Keep the color scheme
New paint job looks like any commercial airliner
No stand out feature
No WOW! Factor
Let’s keep the original blue and white color scheme
Right, the soul purpose of those colors is to blend within the sky. That is why Mrs. Jackie chose the colors.
Looks LOVELY the NEW 747-8
Keep the current livery. It’s timeless and beautiful!
The white red and blue pattern looks like something from a 90's movie.
White red and blue? Do you seriously not know our nations colors? It is red, white, and blue. Not white red and blue.
@@jwilde801 do you seriously not think before you speak? I was describing the color in order from top down.
@@jwilde801 you’re like trump. You talk more than you think.
According to available information it is supposed to cost 3.950.000.000 and not 5.300.000.000() Which is ±22% less..
Can you confirm ?deny ?thks
The graceful lines of the 747-8 will work brilliantly with the curves of the iconic livery. It’s going to be beautiful!
4:10 ohhh the sweet irony that the future Air Force ones where meant for Russian airline 🤣🤣🤣
The real irony is that it was done somehow to save money when most of the cost is in the avionics, communication and defensive systems that go in regardless.
@@bobbymanganaro no this post is iconic
@@TheMelbournelad Still no irony here. You might want to avoid terms you don't understand.
@@user-cy2iq1gl1t So, if by doing something simple, on a multi-billion-dollar contract, you're saying it's trivial to try to save 10-15M? This is why you are poor and don't know what irony is.
@@Nerval-kg9sm 🤷♂️ I prefer the Alanis Morissette school of irony.
Could you make a video about the old dc 9 aircraft from klm still flying in Mexico?
I LOVE the new paint job. Very classy. Very American.
Keep the traditional paint scheme! Otherwise, "If it ain't Boeing... I'm not going."
"If it ain't Boeing.... I'm not going."
Umm....have you been following the aviation news the last couple of years?
The new plane spend a lot of time near by me back in 2019/2020 in the Melbourne FL. Northrop Grumman facilities
I really hope they don't use that godawful new paint scheme. The original graphics look far better - in addition to the fact that it's how every Air Force One plane has been painted since jet aircraft started being used as a presidential transport.
Incorrect, it was originally silver with (ironically) an orange nose
Wrong and stupid
Not true. The original Air Force one looks completely different. JFK’s wife change the design when her husband was president. And thank God the horrible baby blue design is going bye-bye. The United States should have a plane that is painted red white and blue. Anything else it’s just stupid.
Still love the old livery
What I like is that they like to give the inside away and how it works and how it runs and that's nice for the president when people want to attack him
Hopefully it isn’t painted yet and the proper paint scheme will be used.
They’re scheduled for delivery in 2024. They don’t get painted until they’re done. This is 2021. Biden can just tell Boeing to use the current livery.
Now we should be able to go back to the old scheme
@@maxwellheadroom8335
I was relieved when the subject of AF-1 paint came up in yesterday’s presser. So, yeah I realize paint is a late process. (I didn’t know how far out delivery is.)
I’d hate to think that as a change order, changing back would result in a line item extra.
I assume it will be the fabulous sky blue. That scheme is on many aircraft, not just AF-1.
The previous Air Force One is a statement of class and timeless design. The red and blue tones used for this new design are just too commercial and feels more appropriate for a fast food brand. 🤷🏻♂️
In my humble opinion the 747 is the sexiest plane ever made. It looks like a majestic seagull that absolutely belongs in the air. Good choice! I'm not an American but I also think that the old livery should have stayed.
I hope after the new Air Force ones are in service that they next replace the Air Force two from the current 757s to new 787s
A 787 BBJ is crazy expensive. Just see the Mexican Presidential Plane (which was a prototype 787) and still had a crazy price tag.
Unlikely, 757 can get into short fields that a 787 wouldn’t be able to, plus, the 757 is such an awesome airplane!
The 787 is way to big to get into the places the 757 can. The 757 can get in and out 4,000 ft runways.
By that time, it might end up being a SpaceX Starship. They're making crazy progress on the spaceship assembly line.
This paint job is basically the same as Trump's private plane just reversed.
@Chris Kibb Boss move. Deal with it 😂
@Chris Kibb 🤣🤣
@@lbennhtx6072 its not a boss move, its an ego move.
We'll see if it ever gets the Trump colors, The current colors are iconic and everyone knows who's plan it is the POTUS. The Trump colors are boring and common place looks like every other cargo jet.
@@joeschmidt5086 those colors are the T brand. Maybe he can paint his cell those colors, but leave AF-1 alone.
I like this, about time for an upgrade.
The new livery I feel better represents the U.S. as it has the colors of the flag and it has a much cleaner finish.