I agree, the styling is a lot less "boy racer" and more sophisticated. The first generation car started at less than $25,000 when it debuted as well, so the second one starting in the mid-thirties would definitely hit a different demographic
Whenever the word "mature" appears in connection with a car all alarm bells are ringing for me as it stands for an increase in habituality and a loss of attractiveness and specific charms. As for the design both outside and inside (SUV-style cockpit), this comes true here one more time. The slightly but unmistakably inflated design which also now emphasizes the height and less the width is a clear step backwards compared to its slimmer and more athletic-looking predecessor. Even the dozens of design comparisons with other vehicles by the audience do not speak for the quality and independence of the design.
@@Juergen_Mueller Some people might imagine the car in the videos and pictures has an: "emphasis on height and width". In actuality, the car is lower. It also has a lower centre of gravity. It's stiffer. It has low down torque. It even ships with decent tyres. As far as looks go - we'll know if its good looking a decade from now, because launch cars often look strange until their shapes sets future standards, and then a decade further on, they often look better than people thought when they first saw them. None of which will effect how it performs. Which I it sounds like this car is going to be about.
@@douglaslin5469 First of all, I said that the design emphasizes "the height and LESS the width" and not as you quote "the height and the width". I am speaking about DESIGN ONLY. I'm NOT speaking of dimensions or technical subjects. However, it is an expression of particularly bad design when the vehicle looks to be higher than its predecessor, although in fact it is actually lower. I am judging the look of the car today and not after a decade as everybody else does. It is true that design is often judged different after a longer period. But this usually happens - if it does - with NEW designs that people need time to get accustomed to (e. g. the Chris Bangle BMW design). But the BRZ 2 design isn't new at all. You recognize its predecessor in almost all parts. But compared to that, it appears as a step back instead of forward. If someone didn't know which is the old and which is the new design I'm quite sure everybody will misjudge the order. In my opinion one of the weakest design achievements in recent years. The concept of the car, which continues to be enthusiastic, deserves something better.
@@Juergen_Mueller I don't know about how the car looks, because I haven't seen it. As far as the looks of the 86/BRZ, they look very old fashioned to me, 1960's, much like the Maxda roadster looked like a Lotus. Just from the pictures, the 86/BRZ does look contemporary. But I judge cars in the metal, not from photos or videos.
@@jamesiverson209 I agree! We are only seeing subarus bumper atm, I also agree that that picture of the gr86 looks better than the brz brz is too busy and flashy for me
Looks like the oil cooler is under the oil filter. Liquid cooled oil cooler. Unless they put a air cooled oil cooler behind the front vents like the Lexus RCF.
thoughts on this as a daily driver? Plan to modify it quite some bit, but thoughts? unpopular opinion, but the ducktail spoiler just doesn't look as good.
With the fa20 in the current one a set of ACE 350 equal length headers with other breather mods and a tune completely get rid of the torque dip on top of jumping 17+ ft lbs of torque down in the low RPM’s and make 15+ more whp then any other header...
Ok, I’m not worried about torque, combustion and all that stuff. Can you tell me if the dash now displays tire pressure? Can you tell me if the visors slide in and out? Can you tell me if it has remote start? Can you tell me if it now has the eyesight technology? Thanks!
I like the BRZ front end better. Only thing is maybe tweak the grill design and it could be really stunning. Also you right the license plate mount point should not be on the bumper. Do a more stylized grill with mounting point for tag in the grill. Make the grill so you can not see thru it and see radiator.
IMO the interior no longer looks like a sports car interior...more like your typical SUV. The head unit looks like an after thought and is not integrated into the dash. It is just stuck on the dash below the AC vents.
I don’t think that some sound dampening sheets could weigh much. Put a few in it. Put a higher amp stereo and some better speakers in. Save cost by ditching the engine sound generator and the digital display. I hate digital display dash. Also a Brembo brake option would be popular for enthusiasts that are willing to pay for premium brakes
I'm sold, I think I'll be abounding my sn mustang build version of this. This Subaru is both stunning and sporty looking. I'm sold and can't wait to buy a blue Subaru BRZ and put my new Cadillac brembos callipers I had bought for my 1998 mustang. Time to sell all my upgraded parts I collected to build a v6 sn mustang brz killer. Anyone interested in a 1999 cobra IRS rear with updated axles, linkages and clutches. Damn 🤩 I really what to purchase a Subaru BRZ and add a supercharger.
@@KJs_Garage Oh! LOL! No negative context intended in my post. In fact, I think Lexus RC-F, and this BRZ are one of the best looking sports cars around.
Should you buy this new brz? No just keep bitching to manufacturers to build a small affordable light weight simple FUN sports car but don’t buy this one. 😤 wtf!? Excellent video and commentary btw 👍
it would have been really nice to see but given the limited popularity of the coop, I think we're lucky to get the second generation at all. Even this one is simply a reworked version of the first generation
@@KJs_Garage it’s unfortunate because the only thing keeping me away from picking up the 86/BRZ is that tiny trunk opening. I will have to opt for something with more practicality but would have preferred the combination of sportiness and practicality that could have been.
@@austingriffith3598 I mean, I can fit 9 and 1/2 in wide wheels with 265 tires on them through the opening so it's not horrible 😂 and with the rework shape of the taillights that gives you a little more clearance on the back. The trunk opening is bigger than most cars in its class, unless you're comparing it to a mustang or a Challenger or something.
@@KJs_Garage Probably because it would have added weight. A lift back also would have lowered rigidity. So more weight would have had to be added. That then means either more power, and that adds weight. And then, you need bigger brakes, and more weight. Plus more and more cost for all those things. It's a focused sports vehicle, with compromises due to its sporty nature.
As someone who is about to get my first car (2021 gts86) in a few months. I now don't know what to do lol cause I'm getting the car as I need one but I wanna wait for the 2022. This is a huge dilemma haha
I would definitely wait for the new one unless you already bought it, the new one seems to be the same car but with a lot of quality improvements. Either way, the older one is also a very fantastic car. I had mine for 5 years before I sold it last year and honestly I've been regretting it... I'm most likely getting the new one.
@@Crococdile Yea, I contacted toyota and found out that have stopped manufacturing or receiving the 86s so the colour I wanted is no longer available (Gravity Blue 86GTS Automatic). So now I'm just going to drive my uncle's old toyota till the new 86 comes out haha. Honestly tho the only thing I really like about the new 86 is the interior haha I really dislike the rear. The current 86s have a much nicer rear imo
@@bensonspov Yeah I wasn’t a big fan of the design at first, but it’s slowly growing on me. And the Toyota will have a different front that’ll most likely look better in my opinion. You can see some leaks online of the GR86 bumper, but not on the car lol
@@Crococdile the front is alright it's purely the back. Something about the roundness of it puts me off xD I really like the long lines and angular looks of the current models lol
We had a leak in a auto magazine in Europe about the GR86, it said that sales would start in September. I don't know how true this still is with the pandemic and the chip shortage, but hold out man! Just a few months!
i really wnat this car since i havent done a single thing to my brz and its fully stock. but man i just love the firs gen tailights. im not a fan of all these new cars having these slashes and lines as lights . i know its meant for the future but damn i just dont know
The old tail lights are smaller, have simpler shapes, and aren't SUPPOSED to follow the body lines of the car. The new lights look like an Accord's. Do not like.
Subaru : Toyota : BRZ : new Model ; Motor 3.0L Boxer 4 cilindros : super Potente ! Igual :Bmw ; ou Porshe ; " Tração integral " ; é o Diferencial !!! BRZ : Sports ; Toyota :Subaru ; conjunto 🥇🏆🏆👍👏👏👏👏
@@mofayer Compared to itself and other ok cars near its price range. It just doesn't seem like a car someone aspires to have, more just something to settle for. It looks like a fun car, it is just severely underpowered by today's standards. Even a v6 camaro seems like a better ok car.
Such a ignorant comment. This car was designed to take on the MX5, not a high power car, but one that drives really well. Only flat landers who watch nascar and never take a corner complain about the power....
@@mofayer It is true that the camaro weighs more but it is very possible to make a fun car for not much money. My brother's old SS camaro handled great, and the v6 is a bit lighter. The v6 brakes and suspension components aren't great, but can be upgraded. SS brakes, suspension, and wheels can be had for very cheap (free in some cases) from people who are upgrading.
i really think the toyota 86 will be the version to get as far as the front bumper is concerned. I love how iconic the current brz looks, its tail lights and front end design is unmistakable, but this new car will be a fresh canvas for body kit builders everywhere.
It is fixed that the BRZ won't be sold in Europe. As for the GR86 there are different kinds of announcements to be heard presently. The sales manager of my German dealer didn't even know the type designation GR86 some days ago.
This car is going too be worth 28k and it doesn't have a boosted fa, in my opinion it's not worth it. It has a decent power upgrade yes but this is almost the same price range as a wrx, base model gt, and also a 370 when you have options like that why spend all this money for it especially when you have fwd cars like the gti, si, and veloster n that are cheaper and have more power and handle well. I'm not a big fan of the brz because I always felt like the motor always let down. I work at a Toyota dealership and always wondered why the did not just use the 2.0ts from the rc 300 and nx 200t or weird too say camry v6 shit even the wrx motor. These cars handle really well it just seems just like a waste too me subaru can't make a na motor worth a damn but toyota is fine with it because in the end they didn't have too spend near as much money as they would have developing something of their own.
I am with you man, $28k for only 224 hp ... no thank you. For $20k i can get a genesis coupe 2.0 T with 275 hp or the V6 model with 350 hp .. also a rwd 2 door.
Toyota does not care anymore about building anything that is worth a damn, hence why they have subaru, mazda and bmw in their cars .... Subaru states that slapping a turbo on their engine throws the balance off the car and hinders its performance and requires modifications to the suspension, etc. Its all horseshit. I have lost all hope for Toyota to make anything good. They lost their integrity back in 2002.
I hate that they went to a digital cluster stupid. Analogue all the way, only reason I wasn't interested in the 2019+ golf GTI/R's digital crap. I also like the previous gen looks better as well doesn't look like a honda civic.
@@KJs_Garage call me a weeb but just gotta stick with the subaru version. apart of the fact that i have the old gen subaru. honestly i just want the older tailights on this thing and id be happy LOL
I prefer the front end of the BRZ... I drive a 2018, so maybe that has something to do with it... I also prefer my current interior to the 2020... Not liking the ''head unit'' and ''ledge'' on the passenger side...
The last of the fun manual rwd lightweight cars is exactly why I grabbed a 2020 🤘
The word thrown around the internet to describe the new look of the BRZ is "Mature," and I agree. After I see the 86, I'll decide which one to buy.
I agree, the styling is a lot less "boy racer" and more sophisticated. The first generation car started at less than $25,000 when it debuted as well, so the second one starting in the mid-thirties would definitely hit a different demographic
Whenever the word "mature" appears in connection with a car all alarm bells are ringing for me as it stands for an increase in habituality and a loss of attractiveness and specific charms. As for the design both outside and inside (SUV-style cockpit), this comes true here one more time. The slightly but unmistakably inflated design which also now emphasizes the height and less the width is a clear step backwards compared to its slimmer and more athletic-looking predecessor. Even the dozens of design comparisons with other vehicles by the audience do not speak for the quality and independence of the design.
@@Juergen_Mueller Some people might imagine the car in the videos and pictures has an: "emphasis on height and width". In actuality, the car is lower. It also has a lower centre of gravity. It's stiffer. It has low down torque. It even ships with decent tyres. As far as looks go - we'll know if its good looking a decade from now, because launch cars often look strange until their shapes sets future standards, and then a decade further on, they often look better than people thought when they first saw them. None of which will effect how it performs. Which I it sounds like this car is going to be about.
@@douglaslin5469 First of all, I said that the design emphasizes "the height and LESS the width" and not as you quote "the height and the width".
I am speaking about DESIGN ONLY. I'm NOT speaking of dimensions or technical subjects. However, it is an expression of particularly bad design when the vehicle looks to be higher than its predecessor, although in fact it is actually lower.
I am judging the look of the car today and not after a decade as everybody else does. It is true that design is often judged different after a longer period. But this usually happens - if it does - with NEW designs that people need time to get accustomed to (e. g. the Chris Bangle BMW design). But the BRZ 2 design isn't new at all. You recognize its predecessor in almost all parts. But compared to that, it appears as a step back instead of forward.
If someone didn't know which is the old and which is the new design I'm quite sure everybody will misjudge the order.
In my opinion one of the weakest design achievements in recent years. The concept of the car, which continues to be enthusiastic, deserves something better.
@@Juergen_Mueller I don't know about how the car looks, because I haven't seen it. As far as the looks of the 86/BRZ, they look very old fashioned to me, 1960's, much like the Maxda roadster looked like a Lotus. Just from the pictures, the 86/BRZ does look contemporary. But I judge cars in the metal, not from photos or videos.
The improvements are significant across the board...enough so to boost sales exponentially. This car is now very appealing!
5:37 i just realized it looks best from this angle. New exterior design is growing on me
Gotta lower it on some rims lol
The 86 may have the better look in this generation. www.motor1.com/photo/5171703/motor1com-s-exclusive-toyota-gr-86-renderings/
@@jamesiverson209 I agree! We are only seeing subarus bumper atm, I also agree that that picture of the gr86 looks better than the brz brz is too busy and flashy for me
First time watching your video, very nice production quality with some astute observations between the prior model and this one. Well done.
I think it looks great.
The longer I look at this car the better it looks 😄
Can’t wait for the gt86 version
Most likely will be named GR86
I'll wait for 2nd gen of this car. Can't wait
Id wait for the GR86 and see what they do before getting it
Everything you need to know about the new BRZ.
Make mine blue with the 6 speed manual.
Looks so much better than the last one
Great review 👏 5/5
I like the new one.
I really like this car
I look forward to getting one!
This is not a sandwich plate. This is an oil cooler/radiator than you can see on the Forester and also Impreza if I'm not mistaken.
underrated channel
You made my day 🙏❤️
Looks like the oil cooler is under the oil filter. Liquid cooled oil cooler. Unless they put a air cooled oil cooler behind the front vents like the Lexus RCF.
Kevin is right, when they have the stock, I don’t have the money, when I have the money, they all move to EV!
I'll definitely be trading in my 2019 BRZ limited but I'll wait to hear if the higher trims keep the brembos.
thoughts on this as a daily driver? Plan to modify it quite some bit, but thoughts? unpopular opinion, but the ducktail spoiler just doesn't look as good.
Those wheels are from the GR Yaris can we even get a larger hint at what is coming next
honestly i don’t mind it doesn’t have turbo at longest they rid of the torque dip
Smart way to look at it
With the fa20 in the current one a set of ACE 350 equal length headers with other breather mods and a tune completely get rid of the torque dip on top of jumping 17+ ft lbs of torque down in the low RPM’s and make 15+ more whp then any other header...
Thank you for a great review.
Ok, I’m not worried about torque, combustion and all that stuff.
Can you tell me if the dash now displays tire pressure?
Can you tell me if the visors slide in and out?
Can you tell me if it has remote start?
Can you tell me if it now has the eyesight technology?
Thanks!
I like the BRZ front end better. Only thing is maybe tweak the grill design and it could be really stunning. Also you right the license plate mount point should not be on the bumper. Do a more stylized grill with mounting point for tag in the grill. Make the grill so you can not see thru it and see radiator.
So how is that backup camera going to work if someone decides to install a different trunk body kit?
u say bye bye camara i want wing
Maybe cut a new hole for it :)
Will be trading my 2014 BRZ in for the 2022!!
Don’t.
IMO the interior no longer looks like a sports car interior...more like your typical SUV. The head unit looks like an after thought and is not integrated into the dash. It is just stuck on the dash below the AC vents.
when i get mine it's gonna be replaced by an old-school analog head unit so this is not an issue for me.
what matters how it drives.
Love the vibe man, give me more videos.
Got some in the chamber, I put them out as often as I can 🤙
I’m excited for this car
I don’t think that some sound dampening sheets could weigh much. Put a few in it. Put a higher amp stereo and some better speakers in. Save cost by ditching the engine sound generator and the digital display. I hate digital display dash. Also a Brembo brake option would be popular for enthusiasts that are willing to pay for premium brakes
Worth trading my STI for this? :')
Japanese Porsche is back
Actually that title goes to the Z
I hope the Toyota version has the same interior
I'm sold, I think I'll be abounding my sn mustang build version of this. This Subaru is both stunning and sporty looking. I'm sold and can't wait to buy a blue Subaru BRZ and put my new Cadillac brembos callipers I had bought for my 1998 mustang. Time to sell all my upgraded parts I collected to build a v6 sn mustang brz killer. Anyone interested in a 1999 cobra IRS rear with updated axles, linkages and clutches. Damn 🤩 I really what to purchase a Subaru BRZ and add a supercharger.
If, you ignore the size and the shape of the grille, this car is looks like almost exactly to a Lexus RC-F.
I don't see that as a bad thing, the RCF is a very shapely vehicle
@@KJs_Garage Oh! LOL! No negative context intended in my post. In fact, I think Lexus RC-F, and this BRZ are one of the best looking sports cars around.
Anyone else think it looks great in silver and weird in blue for some inexplicable reason??
Not entirely weird lol but the silver I told my wife makes it look more expensive
just watched some test drives of both, BRZ and GR86 and it seems the fake engine noise via speakers is only in the subaru, sounds pretty good tho
I don't think there's fake engine noise in either of them
@@KJs_Garage was confirmed for Subaru...
It's interesting, you like the back of the car more than the front. I think the front looks very pretty, but the rear looks too simple
Simple is timeless though, no need to make anything too complex. Everything you need and nothing you don't 👌
My next machine??? We shall see fellow car guys....
Isnt Toyota delaying the gr86 for more designs
No
Its posible in future they make it hybrid and not manual anymore yeah this is the last time we got car like this
Pas d’antibrouillards ?
No fog lights ?
Should you buy this new brz? No just keep bitching to manufacturers to build a small affordable light weight simple FUN sports car but don’t buy this one. 😤 wtf!? Excellent video and commentary btw 👍
😂 I'm trying to decipher what you think my opinion of this car is hahaha
10:24 me either. 👍
To bad it doesn’t have the GR Yaris engine in it.
Still don’t understand why they didn’t throw a liftback on this thing like older coupes sometimes had (old 86, Celica, Supra, etc.)
it would have been really nice to see but given the limited popularity of the coop, I think we're lucky to get the second generation at all. Even this one is simply a reworked version of the first generation
@@KJs_Garage it’s unfortunate because the only thing keeping me away from picking up the 86/BRZ is that tiny trunk opening. I will have to opt for something with more practicality but would have preferred the combination of sportiness and practicality that could have been.
@@austingriffith3598 I mean, I can fit 9 and 1/2 in wide wheels with 265 tires on them through the opening so it's not horrible 😂 and with the rework shape of the taillights that gives you a little more clearance on the back. The trunk opening is bigger than most cars in its class, unless you're comparing it to a mustang or a Challenger or something.
@@KJs_Garage Probably because it would have added weight. A lift back also would have lowered rigidity. So more weight would have had to be added. That then means either more power, and that adds weight. And then, you need bigger brakes, and more weight. Plus more and more cost for all those things. It's a focused sports vehicle, with compromises due to its sporty nature.
It’s like a RWD Honda prelude 4th Gen. The prelude has a cool dash though
As someone who is about to get my first car (2021 gts86) in a few months. I now don't know what to do lol cause I'm getting the car as I need one but I wanna wait for the 2022. This is a huge dilemma haha
I would definitely wait for the new one unless you already bought it, the new one seems to be the same car but with a lot of quality improvements. Either way, the older one is also a very fantastic car. I had mine for 5 years before I sold it last year and honestly I've been regretting it... I'm most likely getting the new one.
@@Crococdile Yea, I contacted toyota and found out that have stopped manufacturing or receiving the 86s so the colour I wanted is no longer available (Gravity Blue 86GTS Automatic). So now I'm just going to drive my uncle's old toyota till the new 86 comes out haha. Honestly tho the only thing I really like about the new 86 is the interior haha I really dislike the rear. The current 86s have a much nicer rear imo
@@bensonspov Yeah I wasn’t a big fan of the design at first, but it’s slowly growing on me. And the Toyota will have a different front that’ll most likely look better in my opinion. You can see some leaks online of the GR86 bumper, but not on the car lol
@@Crococdile the front is alright it's purely the back. Something about the roundness of it puts me off xD I really like the long lines and angular looks of the current models lol
We had a leak in a auto magazine in Europe about the GR86, it said that sales would start in September. I don't know how true this still is with the pandemic and the chip shortage, but hold out man! Just a few months!
i really wnat this car since i havent done a single thing to my brz and its fully stock. but man i just love the firs gen tailights. im not a fan of all these new cars having these slashes and lines as lights . i know its meant for the future but damn i just dont know
Should’ve put 4cly turbo from Supra and put in FRS/86
LOL hell no 🤣
yep, they should have taken the 2.0T from the Supra and thrown it in this one, that would SELL ...
You could literally put Porsche badges on this and tell everyone it's the new 944 and everyone would believe you.
Toyota did that with the Supra and fooled the blind ..
Can u take that front bracket off? It looks awful and we don't have front plates in INDIANA.
Doesn't appear like it, it looks like it's part of the bumper
Why are you buying the Toyota one vs Subaru?
Part of it is I own the Toyota version of the current car already, and a bigger part is that I like the styling of the GR86 over the BRZ
The old tail lights are smaller, have simpler shapes, and aren't SUPPOSED to follow the body lines of the car. The new lights look like an Accord's. Do not like.
The new ones don't intrude on the trunk opening, making it easier to fit a set of slicks in the back 😉
new front look “ewww” ; new back look “ewwww”
The rear looks like a 2015 Buick Regal.
Good thing looks are subjective
You sound very similar to a UA-camr named PotatoPie25, nice video though!
Never heard of it lol
Best in it's class... What else is in this class
Subaru : Toyota : BRZ : new Model ;
Motor 3.0L Boxer 4 cilindros : super Potente ! Igual :Bmw ; ou Porshe ;
" Tração integral " ; é o Diferencial !!!
BRZ : Sports ; Toyota :Subaru ; conjunto
🥇🏆🏆👍👏👏👏👏
They made an ok car ok'er.
When compared to what? A 40k 2series?
@@mofayer Compared to itself and other ok cars near its price range. It just doesn't seem like a car someone aspires to have, more just something to settle for. It looks like a fun car, it is just severely underpowered by today's standards. Even a v6 camaro seems like a better ok car.
Such a ignorant comment. This car was designed to take on the MX5, not a high power car, but one that drives really well. Only flat landers who watch nascar and never take a corner complain about the power....
@@MrChevroletEd a v6 camaro is a pig(handling wise) compared to a Brz, Brz is a lot more fun to drive, those are 2 very different cars.
@@mofayer It is true that the camaro weighs more but it is very possible to make a fun car for not much money. My brother's old SS camaro handled great, and the v6 is a bit lighter. The v6 brakes and suspension components aren't great, but can be upgraded. SS brakes, suspension, and wheels can be had for very cheap (free in some cases) from people who are upgrading.
Aesthetically, I preffer the old one a thouand times more.
i really think the toyota 86 will be the version to get as far as the front bumper is concerned. I love how iconic the current brz looks, its tail lights and front end design is unmistakable, but this new car will be a fresh canvas for body kit builders everywhere.
Me too
The fact you even mentioned Tesla you are on the right path, not to mention we drive the same car! Between us buy stocks like Tesla thank me later
Am I the only one that thinks the styling of the new BRZ is a mess compared to the first gen?
I would look at CarMax for the Hakone Edition 86 with about 20 to 50 thousand miles, and change the engine coolant soon after buying it.
I bought a brand new brz this year and then I got hit idk if I will trade saying it is new and I could just get a tune in like a year
2387C.C??
But why are you choosing the 86 over the BRZ?
Bumper style mostly
It's revealed?!?!?
Has been for a couple of months now lol
Dump the engine sound generator
Let's forget about the new BRZ and have Europe trade us for the new 2020 GR-4 Yaris--that's a real track/rally car to talk about.
I agree
No! But we should get both 😖
It is fixed that the BRZ won't be sold in Europe. As for the GR86 there are different kinds of announcements to be heard presently. The sales manager of my German dealer didn't even know the type designation GR86 some days ago.
Wish we got that car here
@@sleeper.simulant7327 As I already said:
the BRZ WILL NOT BE SOLD IN EUROPE!
So your wish will remain a wish for all times.
People want turbo and manual transmission. Not 1 or the other.
People can have turbo and manual transmission, build it yourself or buy a wrx lol
Maybe they should have made a 5-cylinder with 2500 cm³ and 250 horsepower! But this one is great too!
That would be developing a completely new motor from scratch lol
@@KJs_Garage i know 😊
@@KristianKG that's how a 30K car becomes a 45K car. Cost prohibitive.
@@KJs_Garage hmmm... Ok, thank you for the info.
This car is going too be worth 28k and it doesn't have a boosted fa, in my opinion it's not worth it. It has a decent power upgrade yes but this is almost the same price range as a wrx, base model gt, and also a 370 when you have options like that why spend all this money for it especially when you have fwd cars like the gti, si, and veloster n that are cheaper and have more power and handle well. I'm not a big fan of the brz because I always felt like the motor always let down. I work at a Toyota dealership and always wondered why the did not just use the 2.0ts from the rc 300 and nx 200t or weird too say camry v6 shit even the wrx motor. These cars handle really well it just seems just like a waste too me subaru can't make a na motor worth a damn but toyota is fine with it because in the end they didn't have too spend near as much money as they would have developing something of their own.
Okay
I am with you man, $28k for only 224 hp ... no thank you.
For $20k i can get a genesis coupe 2.0 T with 275 hp or the V6 model with 350 hp .. also a rwd 2 door.
@@ACommenterOnUA-cam exactly it is really disappointing
to each his own. i'll get it. slap a turbokit on this one aswell. power to weight ratio is always a good thinbg
Toyota does not care anymore about building anything that is worth a damn, hence why they have subaru, mazda and bmw in their cars ....
Subaru states that slapping a turbo on their engine throws the balance off the car and hinders its performance and requires modifications to the suspension, etc. Its all horseshit.
I have lost all hope for Toyota to make anything good. They lost their integrity back in 2002.
I hate that they went to a digital cluster stupid. Analogue all the way, only reason I wasn't interested in the 2019+ golf GTI/R's digital crap. I also like the previous gen looks better as well doesn't look like a honda civic.
that is not a big deal. digital cluster is not the end of the world for a car bro
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It looks like a Lexus bitch, lets be clear. It looks nothing like the unique original design that we all love.
I'm
It doesn’t look aggressive enough. It looks to be more for women then men.
I anticipate that the Toyota version will look a lot more aggressive, similar to this past generation
I don't think soo dude....
Not a fan of the looks. Looks like an older mazda3 up front. Pass.
The Toyota version will be much more distinct and unique
@@KJs_Garage call me a weeb but just gotta stick with the subaru version. apart of the fact that i have the old gen subaru. honestly i just want the older tailights on this thing and id be happy LOL
Go back to analog gauges.
Make all the comparisons you like... its just an Rx8 dressed up.
Does this thing have a rotary, 9.5rpm, 4 doors and 4 seats?
Dressed up or down? Dumb commend anyway.
Sadly still v4
@David Anthony yes
Am I the only one thinking GR 86 looks much better than BRZ? 2:11
I prefer the front end of the BRZ... I drive a 2018, so maybe that has something to do with it... I also prefer my current interior to the 2020... Not liking the ''head unit'' and ''ledge'' on the passenger side...
Looks like a concept tho. Not production.
First generation better...
That's verifiably incorrect but you do you bro 👍
This car doesn't look as good as the previous gen.
For $35,000 you can buy a cayman s with 40k miles on it
You sure can, wouldn't you know it.
No turbo = No buy
Get a Supra...
Turbos take away purity. I’m glad it’s still n/a
See you in the rear vision mirror then 😁
@@dronedownunder652 I’ll run you up a mountain road any day flat lander
@@sleeper.simulant7327 You could try, but I'll be to far ahead....good luck hill billy 😁
DAMN! They made it ugly! Why?
New Hyundai Tiburon
Lol nooope try again
i'd love what they did with it if it wasn't so ugly