Love it, Hate it: Norwegian Culture (Social life in Norway)
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- Опубліковано 26 жов 2015
- In this episode of "Love it, Hate it" you will learn about dinner parties and nachspiel. Enjoy! :-)
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I've been in Norway,Oslo for a whole week for vacations with my friends and there are many things that impressed me in a good or bad way. First of all the nature in the Norway is stunning!! Even in the city of Oslo,it's full of green!!
Oslo is a small city but really very very beautiful and clean! You can visit the whole city in a few days,but i guess if you live there forever you would get easily bored if you are a city addicted - party animal person who wants to go every day in different places,clubs,coffees,restaurants etc
Things that made sense in a weird think is the fact that the majority of people when they talk to you they are not so expressive,almost never smile and they just look like they are drunk or so bored.
Another weird thing is the way they have fun,for example on a Friday night or Saturday, i saw so many people drunk as hell,falling down in the middle of the streets,and a lot of police and ambulances around the city,especially where bars and clubs existed.
I still don't get it why this happens,but i've never seen so many and so much drunk people doing crazy/weird things on the streets!
And yes Norway is so hell expensive!!!!
A thing that i loved a lot in the city is that they have many music scenes,i mean when you walk down the streets of the city you will see many clubs or bars with a band inside playing different kind of music!!! They love so much music,in all it's way and you hear it in every corner of the city!!!
In conclusion i would say that Oslo is really a very beautiful,clean and quiet city you have to visit. But to stay forever,personally i wouldn't say so. I guess that somewhere else in Norway outside the countryside would be much better for those who love nature,because Norway has one of the most spectacular nature scene on earth!
love how you say oslo is a small city, when it is the biggest in Norway :`D
@hPINKt Comparing to other cities in Europe, Oslo is smaller
It's great to see you back making videos.
I love how everyone is talking about how small Oslo is, meanwhile I'm sitting here in a small village an hour's drive away from the city, where it's so small it can't even be counted as a city
I found this so interesting! I stay with family near Fredrikstad and in a cabin in Gålå and I find Norwegians to be so friendly! It is one of the things I always tell people when they ask me about Norway - friendly natives!
it sounds like England. we all ignore each other unless we're drunk.
I feel like it's 50% that, and 50% way too invasive, especially when it comes to customer service haha
PilotAC im a waiter and i treat all my customers with the calm bitter hatred you'd expect from a self respecting brit
Yes that's what I like to hear! ;)
Same in Czech ...
This! which means that the stereotype of introverted , reserved Norwegians may not be so typical Norwegian after all. The Finns are also supposedly a bit introverted, and japanese people- polite, yes, but also a bit reserved. Personally, I am a slightly introverted (at times) extravert. I love socializing, but like everywhere on the planet , it`s about finding the right people. I don`t drink much alkohol, I don`t need it in order to be social. I also do small talk, including on the bus with strangers , not always of course, but very often. So this stereotype of introverted Norwegians does NOT apply to everyone. Another very OBVIOUS reason why (some) Norwegians may appear a bit introverted and reserved, is the language barrier. Yes, MANY Norwegians speak quite good English, but this depends on the person. A non-native speaker very often isn`t as spontaneous as a native speaker, which may be interpreted as them being shy or "reserved". But that is the case anywhere in the world, I guess. Greetings from Oslo!
Love these social/cultural videos !
New subscriber!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for your videos, Michelle :)
thank you for making these videos
Thanks sharing your experience with us..
Wonderful. Thanks
I'm from NY...omg you are so right about having to plan EVERYTHING so far in advance and even then people will cancel constantly at the last second. I have to say that I love Norwegian style of entertaining at home and meeting friends of friends. :) I don't find Norwegians to be cold at all. On the contrary, I think Norwegians are a LOT more friendly than New Yorkers in the sense that they are more sincere and take their friendships seriously.
Where do you get your alcohol from for the nachspiel or do you stop drinking after vorspiel at all? That's what I always asked myself...you can buy alcohol that late right?
I think that here in Brazil it's a mix of norwegian and north american culture, people here drink a lot, and dinner here isn't that expensive, of course there are expensive restaurants, but not all of them are, most of brazilians are outgoing, it's not weird/awkward for us to talk to a stranger in the bus haha and if you go with a group of friends to a party or club someone will probably give you a ride or help you get one. And if a friend wants to go out with you, most of the times it happens spontaneously.
I've been a huge fan of Norway since my fifteens, and their coldness was one of the first things to struck me; specially for I am a Brazilian, because we are such warm people (as a general rule) and mostly with strangers (sometimes we are even more caring about strangers than to some acquaintances lol). Anyway, great video, now I'll watch your videos regularly and who knows if we won't come across each other some day I ever go to Norway... or to NY... or if you come to Brazil :D
I have always wanted to go to Brazil it would be a dream if I actually got to go there
And what if you don't like going clubbing and binge drinking? How much harder is it to make Norwegian friends who also don't like binge drinking and clubbing?
+mis(s)understoodmaniac binge drinking is definitely not a prerequisite for going out and having a good time. I'm not a big fan of alcohol myself, but I still have tons of fun going out dancing. If you don't like going out at all it will definitely make it a bit harder to make friends unless you have a job or school situation in which to meet people. But as I said, dinner parties are also a great way to meet people. You do eat, right? ;-)
Michelle Alexandra
Haha :) Of course! Dinner parties sound quite nice!
Yeah, my love and I aren't big fans of the club scene, and we want to move to Norway within the next 7 years... I personally don't mind having a drink or two, but binge drinking isn't my aim by any means.
I was in Oslo last weekend (I'm studying abroad in Uppsala and hopped the border) and ended up pre-gaming with new friends, but I went to bed as they went to the club (mainly because I had a splitting headache for some reason). I was worried that when we do move there, it'd be difficult to make good friends. But I wouldn't move there until I had a job, so maybe that will be my most secure foot through the door for friendships... I love how they don't demand respect within hierarchies! It gives me hope that making friends at work should be relatively easy. I was told that there's no Norwegian word for "Sir" or "Ma'am"; is that true?
+mis(s)understoodmaniac It is a word for Sir (Norwegian: Herr) and Ma'am (Norwegian: Fru) in norwegian, but they are not used much anymore. You will not call your boss for Herr or Fru, but maybe your 80+ years old neighbor. Also an other great tips for getting friends in Norway is to join a club of some sorts, maybe to play some sports, to paint, discuss politics or something like that. :)
+NorthernL1fe Oh, interesting! Sounds good; thank you for letting me know :)
+mis(s)understoodmaniac joining a club, sports-team or something like the Redcross is good advice.
To befriend a norwegian it really helps to trap them in a sosial "cage" like this, it gives you and them a reason to sosialize. If you try to forcefully sosialize with a norwegian on a bus/train or similar, then most Norwegians will feel like you are invading their personal space..
:)
Lel you absolutely right the way u share your life time statement about Our Norway.
nachspiel is the afterparty! woot! woot! 🥳
I Noticed in Stavanger that a lot of folks got drunk on Friday nights, but were generally lightweights, which is good! I noticed in Denmark a lot of people got drunk a lot all the time, perhaps not so good.
I just watched your video. It was interesting. I think it is important for people to understand you are probably talking specifically about New York City. New York is something around 54,000 square miles. New York City is pretty close to your description.
Hi Michelle, love your vid's, I just tuned in. I have a quick question. My mom is full Norwegian which makes me half, duh. Ok, Grampa Harris was from Oslo, he used to say "yah" while breathing in. It's tricky to do without sucking something into your throat but I managed to accomplish it. WHY??? why did he do that??? My mom and I laugh our asses off all the time about it. Good ol Harris!
+Eric Williams Hi Eric! I have absolutely no idea why, but yes that is a kind of typical Norwegian thing to do mostly among older generations... (though i'm sure he was saying "ja" which means yes)
+Eric Williams The meaning of an "uttering" like this is to confirm or express agreement with something someone just said.
Thanks!
i went to norge during winter recently...it's so cold, so dark and so expensive!!! 😫 😫 😫 but i still love 🇳🇴 🤗 i wanna return soon, might have to give up an arm and a leg 🤣 😂 🤣 😂
i got a question: what happens if you meet a person/persons you know from a nachspiel, on another day during daytime? will they be reserved again or does the acquaintanceship loosen the rigidness between people?
+BlackAdder665
That is a little hard to say. They can maybe forget you, or they would most likely ask about information about you like for example your thelephonenumber.
And after that I think many of them wil be friends with you instead of beeing reserved again.
Example: I actually was very shy then i was in 3th grade and I saw a person I wanted to be friend with. I took out a lot of courage, walked towards her and introduced my self. Since that day we have been best friends forever.
+Karen Marie Mykstu thanks for answering! :-)
Is there a local comedy or music scene in Oslo?
Thanks :)
El Camino in Oslo Rocks. I blog about Oslo Restaurants on Letters from Norway.
Norway is closely associated with black metal because that is where the genre began in the 1980's. I know it was a big deal when it all started. Is that something that effected people outside of that music group or the culture as a whole? How do you see it as someone who has lived there?
+Zac Miller Most norwegian people dismiss black metal outright. They get genuinely shocked when it's pointed out that it's Norway's biggest export article..
yay I wanna move to Norway :)
Yup, go to a nachspiel and drink moonshine (hjemmebrent) mixed with coffe wich is known as Karsk. I promise you'll have the time of your life. You'll probably don't remember much in the morning, but hey it's the Norwegian way ;)
Sick fucks
George Mikaelsson Sick, us? well, don't forget that Black Metal originated in Norway
whatever youre socialy akward and you dont even know it women i wont even bother talking about way beyond sick behaviors
George Mikaelsson Talking to yourself, are you?
Seems you've been drinking a lot of this Karsk !
Hallo. Hvordan har du det? Michelle, du har en god stemme når du synger. I dag ringte jeg opp qatar i Midt-Østen for mulige reiser. Jeg er ganske sikker på at jeg er svensk en gang, men dro til Italia og Skottland. Jeg vil prøve skandinavisk drakt!
Hi my lovely teacher. I love youuuuu
Just a couple of question. Is it true that most Norwegians introverts? Can a person working minimum wage afford a decent living? What about the healthcare compare to the US?
I would say that in general we are "introverts", but less so outside Oslo. Decent living on a minimum wage? A tricky question. Some people from third world countries might say yes, while people from the richest countries might say no. The Norwegian health care system was ranked the fourth best in the world. Treatment is usually free after you have spent 220 - 250 $ each fiscal year.
har du ikke hørt om afterski? ;D
more like "Oslo social culture" you wouldn't think so, but the social culture from Oslo vs lets say Tromsø, or Kristiansand or Stavanger actually does differ.
+Bloody Crazy Gamer Considering Oslo is the only real city in Norway, there is no surprise there.
Well, that's bullshit right there.
I know you wrote this 4 years ago... but how does it differ?
You speak a very clear American English, you go fast and I'm able to understand you anyway.
Can you already speak Norwegian??
I don't know why, but watching you speak is like watching a slowed down version of Flash!! I thinks it's just the camera. 😅
c'mon in New York when you're on the subway or a bus no one says to you have a nice day or engage in a conversation with you
I don't know where in NYC you're from, but if you happen to fall down, people would just walk around you
Thats not true is it? How tha hell do you survive in sutch a place🤔
If I am a university student in Norway,is it necessary to know norwegian
It depends on where and what you are studying. Some places there are some subjects that are taught in English, but most often subjects are taught entirely in Norwegian. It is possible to take semesters as an exchange student some places where everything is done in English. At my university college (privately owned) everything was taught in Norwegian, but term papers and exams could be written in either Norwegian, Swedish, Danish or English. As a student you can usually get all the necessary information from the university in English. A lot of universities have free Norwegian language courses aimed at foreign exchange students. As a side note: Norwegian, Swedish and Danish are mutually intelligible languages, so a high degree of proficency in either are more than enough.
OK, I admit it. I am hooked on your vids. Manga takk. Did I write that right?
+Ken Anderson "Mange takk", so very close! ;)
Mange*
+Ken Anderson You may also say: Tusen takk (Directly translated, Thousand thanks, very often used here)
❤️😌❤️
Sorry, *what* dinner party culture?
And what social class where you referring to?
I know that some upper class people do that stuff, but most Norwegians?
+Luredreier It does not have to be upper class formal to be a dinner party. Plenty of Norwegians actually do have friends over for dinner or have been over at friends for dinner plenty of times. The reason is of course that the rather small socio economic differences in Norway makes it expensive to eat out . When the people who makes and serves the food earn just about as much money as you do, then it is a given that it will not be cheap to eat out.
+Luredreier All kind of Norwegians have dinnerparties.What planet have you been living on?
Susann Arnesen Jepp, sant det. Uavhengig av sosial klasse
Susann Arnesen
Tja, jeg kjenner ingen arbeiderklasse folk som driver på med slikt...
Gå ut på byen og spise, ja.
Men å invitere folk hjem til seg?
Nope.
Luredreier Igjen: Hvilken planet bor du på? !
Chicago is very Norwegian. Chicagoans do not make eye contact in public or on transport, no one says hi or anything and no one will engage in conversation with a stranger. I am an introvert so I'd fit into Norway perfectly.
This! you just "destroyed" the stereotype of Americans as outgoing, always up for some small talk.. Look, there are introverted and extraverted in every single country on the planet. Personally, I am a ESTJ (Myers-Briggs), which means fairly outgoing. A lot of people-including many Norwegians- see Norwegians as very reserved, but I haven`t noticed much difference between how people behave on the bus, tram etc here in Oslo, and Copenhagen, Berlin, Munich, Cologne, Amsterdam.. or Sydney, Australia, for that matter. Some times people DO talk to each other on the bus, but very often people just sit there looking out the window, reading the newspaper etc. To many, taking the bus is their "offtime" from work etc. Another aspect- as I previously mentioned-is the language barrier. Yes, many Norwegians speak good English, but it depends on. Also, Japanese people are also generally very reserved (although VERY polite)- but noone seems to criticize them for not being more like latinos...
If you only foundt 10 good resturants in oslo, it makes me sad. There are so many good resturants in oslo, they are just more difficult to find.
+mrKreuzfeld This is so true. I went to an indian resturant a few months back, the food was amazing and wasn't too expensive. But the catch? It's impossible to see if you just walk past it, you have to know where it is if you want to go there. I've walked past that resturant a dozen times without ever seeing it, until my sister told me about it.
Where is it?! I live in Oslo. Please tell me!
When you going in Norway,you are going beacuse of Black Metal \m/
Comparing New York, by which I believe Manhattan, to any place but maybe London is silly
I'm from Norway
Can you do a video on the different food in Norway. I've heard their food is very boring.
Our food boring?! Well I never!
(Yes, its pretty shitty)
they got whale, that's something.
+Øystein A. IT IS NOT!!!
I'm a Spanish guy living in the north of Norway, and for us I have to say that Norwegian food is quite boring. It consist mostly of boiling things like potatoes or carrots or fish in water or burning hotdogs in campfires (literally: they put the sausage right onto the flame until it's black!). But I also want to say that THE CAKES IN NORWAY ARE AMAZING! the desserts are really good, even the ones you get at the grocery store! My favourite one is "Verdens beste" (it literally means "The best in the World", and it certainly is!)
+Almarma That is your problem, did you expect the norwegian food to be similar to the spanish food?
Well I come from new york so you already know what now York is like
you mean NYC right?
"Social life in Norway"... there's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one! 🤣♥️
I liv in norway
You should video having a normal Norwegian conversation!
+Jennifer Carter Boring...
God I miss my ATL:(.
I'm 16 percent Norwegian.
💋👍
ALLE drikker øl. Alle. Og vin. Its cool though, they're great fun
this is not the orginal clip you had titled "Love it,hate it norwegian culture (janteloven og langrenn)"
you have removed it shame on you because that one was good and truthful to the facts and no bullshitting !!
thanks god I downloaded it back then and
,,,,,,,,,,,,, have you now become the typical youtuber these days ????
litter rally
Hey Alexandra ! Whould you like to have a caffe in Oslo ? 😀
I think you are not being honest, you makes it look like everything is perfect and is not as you are describing it, actually most of the people living here you ask will tell you Norwegian are not social and is so difficult to get Norwegian friends. Of course if you have friends from the childhood probably you can do all this stuff you are mentioning, but you forgot to mention that you have to know the person from very long time, not to mention that if you do not speak Norwegian is going to be extra difficult just because they would prefer to speak Norwegian with someone else. Norway have a lot of beautiful stuff, but your video is totally out of the reality like everything is perfect and so ease, and is not :), ask to foreigns living in Norway
Javier: NO countries are perfect.And as I previously mentioned, like everywhere else on the planet, it`s about finding the RIGHT people. Now, what is right for you may not be right for me.. which, of course, doesn`t mean that I would dis-like "your" people.. but we should have at least something in common, common interests etc. Have you concidered joining a sports club etc? any other interests?
The sound constantly 'clipping' is ruining the video..
Jeg 🇬🇧og 🇳🇴
Who whoud not going out with you?
U think better than Germany because I don't want say her anymore...
You spoke so much about nyc instead of norway
Bla-bla-american-bla-bla -bla.
Hahahaha…I’m American and this comment is hilarious
Norwegian culture is very isolated, snobby, and boring
Have you even ever been to Norway? Lol
lived there for 3 years!
1954telecaster i think the same!!
YES VERY SNOBBY AND RUDE
there are a lot of nice russian, polish, and vietnamese girls that you can pick up on. The black chicks here are hot too.
like it. but. we Norwegians think Oslopeople are snobs. still ginteresting to hear
MY EXPERIENCE NORWEGIAN ARE VERY RUDE AND NEVER MOVE OUT OF OF THE WAY UNLIKE AMERICA, MOST TIMES IF SOMEONE SEE YOU COMING THEY WILL MOVE. NORWEGIAN JUST STAND THERE BLOCKING AISLE OR LINES ETC. OBLIVIOUS TO ANYONE AROUND THEM. VERY RUDE.
It is called cultural differences.
Joeybabbs .BABBS true we don't know manners.
@@MainstreamPoPsucks3 no it is due to ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, "inavel"
There is nooooooooo way you can compare Norway to New York......Two different cultures. You are very odd. Norwegians are not cold. They respect everyone's space. Please stop talking like a valley girl. Yes they binge drink on the weekends. You obviousley have very limited experience with Norway.
SOME binge drink on weekens, but FAR from all. In fact, studies have shown that younger Norwegians drink less than their parents used to do. Maybe they have been influenced by the young immigrants? Muslims normally don`t drink alkohol, so.. Personally,I don`t drink much alkohol. I occasionally have a glass of wine or a beer (or two) but usually never get drunk. Which means that in some peoples eyes,I am boring (because I am not on their "level"). I can live with that, no problem. I am a VERY social person with the right people-but I absolutely can`t stand being around drunk people,spewing out all sorts of rubbish! You know what they say "birds of a feather".. so true.
haha ever heard of janteloven it is just disgusting unless you are harcore communist
I don't like your eyes. :s