Pick your best ammo then practice varying your cheek pressure on the stock to see which cheek pressure your rifle prefers. Smallbore match shooters really train the cheek pressure.
I have been shooting Completive ARA since 2010. I have a Falcon Benchrest action With a Broughton barrel and a Bill Meyers design reamer. I shot 5 bricks of Eley Match (black Box) over a 3 year period. My average score was from 2250 to 2350 when the bullets would go into the 50 point ring they would just barley miss the 100 point circle. Out of the 5 bricks (all out of the same case of ammo) I had 5 bad boxes which would lower my score to 1800 to 1950. I finally figured out what the problem was. When a box of the Eley Black Box almost didn’t stay in the 50 points ring and some went into the 25 ring, I put that box aside and used it to season the barrel. Don’t be surprised when you think you have really good lot ammunition. Most of the really good ammunition is consistent however it does not always shoot the same. If you have a barrel tuner you can tune out small variation in velocity, but it will not compensate for a bad round. The general rule to adjusting the tuning is If the groups are stringing lengthen the tuner. If they are round shorten the tuner. With the proper tuner you do not need to make large adjustments to the tuner. Keep doing what you are doing and thank you for the good video. Jim
Awesome, thanks for the knowledge there. Firehose of info. As you can see I didn’t go down the tuner route just yet. But that is all interesting stuff. Yes shooting one box of something doesn’t tell the whole story. But simply a rough overview. I think the way you are doing it is correct and much more refined. It will take a lot of time and rounds to really know a gun intimately. All great stuff. Thanks
Great comparison! I just bought myself an MTR and I’m really happy with it. I shot some Lapua just yesterday. I’m anxious to try some other ammos so I’ll be trying some of those ammos that tested well for you if I can find them here locally. Good test. Thank you.
Great test - I am also looking at the MTR. What scope did you guys go with? I am driving myself crazy trying to figure it out. I am looking at using a 20 moa rail and would like to zero at 25 yards and shoot to 300 ish. I am also very new to this. Thanks
You’re lucky to have local availability of a wide variety of ammunition. I am in Houston TX and the best I can find locally is CCI Standard and Norma. Shipping cost for ammo is crazy.
Thanks for sharing Just getting into this “precision “ Shooting picked up a caliper to measure groups I Come up with so many Numbers Not sure how to round off and put down on paper.Have yet to see a good easy follow Vid on this Do you have one?
I think first off placing the different ammo within different pricing tiers would give a more realistic evaluation as if comparing say CCI sv which is $3.99 a box of 50 to Eley match which is $15.99 a box of 50 it should not be expected that those ammo's perform at the same level. Another thing is I also think you need to do more than two group assessments as many of say Eley's ammo are the same ammo off of the same lines and the grading is done by consistency of the production runs on the different tiers of ammo. Because of this fliers "should" be more common out of say Team ammo as compared to the top tier Tenex and just shooting two groups of 5 may not be a large enough sample size to show those differences or higher probability of flyers in the lower tiered ammo off of the same production line.
Great video, thanks for sharing.
Dude. Time for the next video. Cannot wait.
Pick your best ammo then practice varying your cheek pressure on the stock to see which cheek pressure your rifle prefers. Smallbore match shooters really train the cheek pressure.
I have been shooting Completive ARA since 2010.
I have a Falcon Benchrest action With a Broughton barrel and a Bill Meyers design reamer.
I shot 5 bricks of Eley Match (black Box) over a 3 year period. My average score was from 2250 to 2350 when the bullets would go into the 50 point ring they would just barley miss the 100 point circle. Out of the 5 bricks (all out of the same case of ammo) I had 5 bad boxes which would lower my score to 1800 to 1950. I finally figured out what the problem was. When a box of the Eley Black Box almost didn’t stay in the 50 points ring and some went into the 25 ring, I put that box aside and used it to season the barrel.
Don’t be surprised when you think you have really good lot ammunition. Most of the really good ammunition is consistent however it does not always shoot the same.
If you have a barrel tuner you can tune out small variation in velocity, but it will not compensate for a bad round. The general rule to adjusting the tuning is If the groups are stringing lengthen the tuner. If they are round shorten the tuner. With the proper tuner you do not need to make large adjustments to the tuner.
Keep doing what you are doing and thank you for the good video.
Jim
Awesome, thanks for the knowledge there. Firehose of info. As you can see I didn’t go down the tuner route just yet. But that is all interesting stuff.
Yes shooting one box of something doesn’t tell the whole story. But simply a rough overview. I think the way you are doing it is correct and much more refined.
It will take a lot of time and rounds to really know a gun intimately.
All great stuff. Thanks
Thanks for your comment!! Good stuff
thanks for posting this man, saved me a ton of work lol
Great comparison! I just bought myself an MTR and I’m really happy with it. I shot some Lapua just yesterday. I’m anxious to try some other ammos so I’ll be trying some of those ammos that tested well for you if I can find them here locally. Good test. Thank you.
Great test - I am also looking at the MTR.
What scope did you guys go with? I am driving myself crazy trying to figure it out.
I am looking at using a 20 moa rail and would like to zero at 25 yards and shoot to 300 ish.
I am also very new to this.
Thanks
@@jeffanderson.1306 I went with the Arken EP-5. 5-25x56 FFP 34mm Tube. I added an Area 419 30 MOA rail and zeroed at 50 yds.
Thank you very much- I like it
Don’t give up on the RWS ammo. My 541s really likes the entire line..
Thanks for your work.
Could you also included the humidity and temperature with the results. Looking for any correlation in group size.
I can do that going forward yes
You’re lucky to have local availability of a wide variety of ammunition. I am in Houston TX and the best I can find locally is CCI Standard and Norma. Shipping cost for ammo is crazy.
Well ammo can only go Fedex or UPS. If you can have it shipped to a commercial address this could save you some money.
Thanks for sharing Just getting into this “precision “ Shooting picked up a caliper to measure groups I Come up with so many Numbers Not sure how to round off and put down on paper.Have yet to see a good easy follow Vid on this Do you have one?
I want whatever you’re smoking lol
I think first off placing the different ammo within different pricing tiers would give a more realistic evaluation as if comparing say CCI sv which is $3.99 a box of 50 to Eley match which is $15.99 a box of 50 it should not be expected that those ammo's perform at the same level.
Another thing is I also think you need to do more than two group assessments as many of say Eley's ammo are the same ammo off of the same lines and the grading is done by consistency of the production runs on the different tiers of ammo.
Because of this fliers "should" be more common out of say Team ammo as compared to the top tier Tenex and just shooting two groups of 5 may not be a large enough sample size to show those differences or higher probability of flyers in the lower tiered ammo off of the same production line.
David,
If I was going to run a 20 rail would I be able to zero at 2O-25 yards?
It looks like a very nice scope.
Thx
My cz457 varmint loves sk pistol match ammo the best so far,rws target than eley team and norma match comes in pretty close and cheap to shoot.
Very cool, thanks for sharing. I want to try the Norma.
I have four .22 rifles. and every one wants a different ammo.
Right! that’s my favourite part of .22 LR. Cheers