I went down a rabbit hole to decode the EGO mower model numbering system. LM, of course, stands for Lawn Mower. Here is the additional info. Series Features 2100 Base mower 2110 Base mower with higher torque motor 2120 Touch Drive 2130 Select Cut, may have Touch Drive, includes blades M E and may include H U 2140 Two battery compartments for Peak Power Technology, same torque as XP 2150 Select Cut, XP for even higher torque, Touch Drive, includes blades M H E U 2160 Select Cut, XP for even higher torque, Speed IQ replaces Touch Drive
Last number "0" indicates "Tool only" - battery not included. Blades: M-Mulching; E-Extended run-time; H-High-lift; U-Upper blade
I tossed a new Toro in the trash after a year, the hydrostatic Honda HRX I have now will outlive me, it's just awesome, my grass is basically 1.5" of thick carpet Bermuda, max speed I have to run after it it mows so fast and never bogs. Scalping is next level.
Same here, have a rear wheel drive 21" Honda mower for a decade and still looks brand new. I rinse it off after every use, sharpen the blade every 15 cuts and only use non ethanol gasoline. Starts every time on the 1st pull. I dont see the need to spend $700 for a plastic mower that can barely mow 1/4 an acre
@snotbubbles3276 I've had the base Ego lawnmower with 5ah battery and rapid charger for 7 years. The battery started waning a little 3 years ago. I bought a 16" chain saw with 5ah battery 2 years ago and use it for the mower. That mower never needed any service other than cleaning the base above the blade after cutting very wet grass a couple of times. I never have to change the oil. I never have to drive to get gas. I plan on getting a new blade this year but my original blade has never been sharpened or replaced yet. When I do replace it, I can put the mower on it's side and never worry about spilling gas or oil, either.
Im trying to sell mine(Honda 5.5) for a battery one. No takers for the past two weeks. Selling for $80. It appears no one is interested in gasoline mowers ☹️. Heck I was willing to exchange it to get my drive way power washed and no takers.
I have the barebones LM2101 (non-propelled, 5Ah,). It does a fine job on my 3000sf+ lawn (0.2 acre). I have several other Ego tools, so I have 2 more 2Ah batteries. I never have to worry about running completely out of juice. My only complaint is that it only goes down to 1.5". Plastic vs Steel Deck: For the vast majority of people, the plastic deck will be perfectly fine. Unless you're constantly running over rocks and sticks, the plastic deck will be substantially lighter and easier to maneuver. There is almost no vibration with an electric motor vs a gas motor, so there's very little risk of the deck cracking. Having an electric mower with a metal deck adds unnecessary weight for most situations. Push vs Self-Propelled: Pushing a gas mower is far more work than pushing an electric mower. With an electric mower, you don't need the heavier metal deck and gas motor and you don't have the constant vibration. I had both an Ego push mower and an older Honda self-propelled mower. It is easier to push the Ego than to let the Honda propel itself. Most people would be really surprised at how easy it can be to push one of these. Runtime: The best situation is to have all of your OPE on the same battery platform and have multiple batteries. It's so much easier to "restart" an electric mower once it's run out of power than to "restart" a gas engine after it's run dry. My old Honda (15+ years old) was a PITA to get started after it ran dry. 13 Different Models: Absolutely ridiculous. They don't even need half that many. They're just cannibalizing their own market. They only need 1 non-propelled, 1 high-end self-propelled with all of the features, and 1-2 lower spec self-propelled models. They keep coming out with more and more models that have very little differentiation from the existing models. They have done the same thing to their blowers, string trimmers, snow blowers and Zero Turns. Way too many models of the same basic piece of equipment. Prices: The prices for their lower spec stuff are fine. The prices for the top spec stuff are pretty ridiculous. The added performance and features are nice (I would guess), but you pay dearly for the privilege. Overall OPE lineup: What they have is great (I have 5 pieces of equipment). But, they're missing several key categories. Where are a backpack sprayer, tiller, dethatcher, and REEL MOWER??? I'm sure that they would build great choices in those categories IF they ever bothered to try. But they keep churning out new models in their existing categories.
Thank you. A couple questions. Do all the mower batteries from EGO work on all the EGO mower models? If I buy the 56v 7Ah 21” mower , can I use the 6Ah with the mower? I guess it’s a matter of form factor right? If the battery fits in the mower, then it will work? The other question is a self propelled one worth $100 more than a push one? If something goes wrong with the sp feature, I can still just push it like a push one right? Or will it disable the entire mower? You mentioned that push mowers on battery mowers are really light assuming it’s a plastic deck which is why I’m considering push instead of self propelled. I just know my non self propelled gas mower was a pain in the butt over the years. Thx.
They do have a tiller attachment now. It goes on the multi-tool. I haven't used it but I saw it browsing yesterday. All the batteries are compatible with other Ego products except it takes an adapter when you use a backpack.
I too have the 2101 for 4 years.....along with 4 other Ego tools. I've never been completely happy with the 2101....cut quality,mostly due to its weak suction is my main gripe. I've done the dual blade conversion.....maybe helped a bit. I have 0 need for self propelled.....but Ego appears to be pushing me to that cause availability of Ego push mowers here in Canada is......bad. I love the convenience.....so for now I'll just use it. The blower,whipper and chainsaw are awesome tho.
@@rodjbosch Earlier this spring I got a high lift blade for the 2101 push mower and the suction and cut quality improved a lot, especially the suction. It was still the single blade, not the conversion, though.
I purchased my EGO LM2100SP back in the Spring of 2017, Its still going strong. It came with the 7.5 Ah battery which is still working well. The only problem( recent within the last 2 yrs) is that one of the speed control wires has an intermittent such that with the handle extended to operating length has full speed only. Not a problem for me since I never use the SP in my yard with St. Augustine grass( I count it as a workout instead of going to the gym that day) Great Channel BTW.
I have an EGO push and an EGO SP. They work fine, especially for houses I'm fixing that I need a portable mower to tote to every 2 weeks. Can't understand why they'd put a steel deck on one, the plastic decks seem fine, light and won't rust.
I have the original 21" self-propelled mower , bought June of 2016. Still going strong, original battery still works fine, bought a 2nd battery 2 years ago, use it every other mow.
I’ve been using an Ego mower for 5 years now on good old South Florida St Augustine grass and it’s been the best mower I’ve ever owned…and I loved my classic asymmetric Lawn Boy. The only thing I had to do is clean the batter terminals and replace the mower blade.
Australian Ego user here. Bought a 52cm Ego push mower last year. The fast charger was faulty out of the box and only charged the battery to half charge, then shut down. Ego Australia typically provides smaller batteries and charge a lot more than US counterparts. The Z6, for example, is almost $10k here (US$6,600!) and is only supplied with 4x 10ah batteries 😡 The push mowers are usually only supplied with 5ah batteries.. I do like the push mower, now that I have a replacement charger, but I'm pissed that we have to pay so much here for downgraded products..
I agree 100%. Shopping for an EGO is worse than looking for a bottle of wine or a good cigar. Way too many mower options. I finally gave up looking at the different mowers.
@markm921 The Greenworks 80v 21" is good. However, very bad customer service. Unreachable.... It is like they hide themselves.. on the phone for about 2 hours, 👎🏿no answer.. 👎🏿 I had to return their products. Only 2Ah batteries are available to buy. And almost everything are stamped and marked RC - reconditioned
My concern, and I don't know enough to be sure, is that each of these electric manufacturers are making mowers with no standardization between them, and so every part will be proprietary and must be purchased from factory. Everything breaks eventually, and when these break the parts will be too expensive to repair and these will end up on the curb. I hope I'm wrong.
I agree with your findings. I have their line trimmer and leaf blower and have been really impressed with the battery technology. By the way, that $1000 mower is that price because it comes with a 12ah battery. If you were to buy the 12ah battery by itself...it's $600! I'm an EV guy, so I like to compare some of this stuff to EVs. You'll see some of the Hyundai and Kia EV cars that cost over $50k, but you sit in them and the materials used feel more like a $25-30k vehicle. The high price is because of the batteries. You'll see a lot of hate online for EVs and battery powered equipment because of this, but we're at the dawn of this technology. I predict in the near future, the prices will drop with better battery technology that becomes lighter in weight, and cheaper to source.
As an owner of many EGO products, I welcome improved battery technology. I foresee smaller and lighter power sources, or batteries the same size but with many times the capacity.
Battery prices will never drop, lithium batteries are a perfect cash cow... The biggest 18650 is still around 3.5ah, the tech hasn't gone anywhere fast in the last 10 years. Now companies are switching to cheaper lfp batteries which Ford says cost as little as $80/kwh but the cost of their battery pack is like $36k, that's a massive profit margin, same as ego, here in Canada its basically over $1000/kwh for their batteries and that's a total rip off, that's basically 90% of their business...
So helpful, thanks! No Ego power equipment here yet but I did use of their batteries to “re-battery” an e-bike and it worked great. A mower, a trimmer, and a chainsaw from them are on my shopping list.
I also have a Husqvarna gas mower that now has a Briggs engine on it, but I got my LM2100SP about 5 years ago half price (about $245 then), open box at Home Depot--somebody returned it for some reason. Has worked great, it's a great stand-in when the gas mower won't start for whatever reason, and I still use it for the lion's share of our almost 1/2 acre yard. I can almost mow the entire yard using self-propel with a 10 A-H battery. I will put a new blade on it for the first time very soon when I powerwash and do the winter layup maintenance on both mowers. I also have an Ego 18" chainsaw and a pole saw, and four batteries of different A-H capacity.
I bought a Hart 40 volt 21” with self propelled drive two years ago. Paid $175 at Walmart and it came with battery and a charger. It was on sale in October. Works great, no issues, and it mulches. Not as powerful as my older gas push mower. I was looking at the prices on several brands of electric, and the prices are insane. Glad I got that deal on the Hart!
Thanks for doing this!!! I’m sure some people with their cathode ray tube TVs and landline phones will complain about electric. That said these make sense for a lot of people. A lot of people never change the oil or filter in there mower (apparently some mowers try to claim lifetime oil - what???) Like me, I have a small suburban yard (1/6 acre). When ever I’m sick of dealing with my 11 year old sears craftsman with the older flat head engine, I’ll get one of these. It’s still kicking but that said, it makes a lot of sense for people like me who have small yards in a high cost of living area like Seattle. I’m not paying 80 bucks every time to have someone come to mow my yard. Having no basement puts garage space at a premium, so being able to fold the mower up and hang it would be a game changer. My neighbor has an electric that he hangs on the wall of his garage. That alone might be worth the 100-200 bucks extra for electric. The other thing I noticed when I bought my old gas mower (229 dollars at the time), I couldn’t find a decent mower on Craigslist for anywhere close to under 100-150 bucks. I was broke at the time and just got one of the cheapest ones at Sears. Now, used gas mowers here are much cheaper used than they ever were. I see working ones go for Free on Facebook at times. Clearly the market is changing, especially in the urban or dense suburban communities.
I will stick with my gas mower for as long as possible. If there's a natural disaster or a terrorist attack that takes out the power grid, I'll still be able to mow my lawn. You won't (after you drain whatever is left in the battery).
@@duckpwnd Haha you’ll have the nicest yard in the apocalypse. If that happens, keeping my lawn nice probably won’t be my biggest priority nor would I waste my propane on charging a mower or waste my gasoline if I have a gas mower. If the grid goes down, how would you get gas? Pumps aren’t gonna work. People are going to panic and scramble and all the stations that might have gas would be out of it anyways. You can’t keep big stocks of gasoline unless you turn it over, with an extra thanks to ethanol. It probably would be easier to rely on solar and back up batteries for bare essentials for a long term crises than gas unless you keep a very healthy reserve of propane. Something to consider if you are preparing for the worst. One of my next projects is to get a generator and interlock, and set it up so it can run off of gas, natural gas, or propane in case the big cascadia subduction zone earthquake comes along. I’ll probably get a larger propane tank too so I can run the generator. Outside of the apocalypse, I just want garage space and minimize the maintenance. With my mowing taking about 20 minutes, gas doesn’t really make sense anymore.
@@BuddyTobyTV I have a 5 gallon gas can. I'm pretty good about keeping it filled up and it lasts for least a few months. If need be, I'll convert it biodiesel.
At the 48 seconds you said that they are all brushless but the cheapest models aren't brushless and that's why it has less power, less price and less run time.
My last mower was a Honda, lasted 23 years for me and was still running when I sold it. Bought another Honda and it’s great. Let’s see what an ego looks like if it makes it 5 years.
I have a 20-year-old Toro personal pace with Tecumseh motor. It's still going strong. My father gifted me a new one two years ago and it's still sitting in the box. LoL
I live in SC and it is very hot and my Ego mower has overheated once in 7 years.I just had to leave the battery out for 10 min. I've wasted more time than that trying to start a gas mower.
I bought a 21" sp ego that adjusts the speed to your walk speed,Problem is the wheels don't disengage when you come to the end of the run. Other then that I love it. So I went out and bought a used 21" sp ego with three speed control knob. It's way better then the speed iq. As soon as you release the speed lever the wheels disengage like they should.
The Den of Tools.. Thanks for this one. We need to get something like that for my mother-in-law because she has a very small yard. She has a Kobalt one but but it doesn't cut very well and the battery only does half of her back yard. We bought her a new battery for it but now it's doing the same thing. She is too old to do it so we go over every weekend and cut her yard for her.
Love my weed trimmer my ego weed trimmer. Hassle-free !!! It's nice not to have to worry about gas oil rubber tubes corroding. So convenient I have my eye on their riding lawn mower but out of my price range
I like what you’re doing. I’m not a bells and whistles guy. I use a 21” gas powered non SP push mower for mowing where I can’t get to with my rider, when it dies I’ll get the Hart 40v cordless non SP push mower. If you want to get heated up come to Texas😅
I have the 2125 21" touch drive, 7.5amp hrs battery this thing is a beast, I love it. I mow a 1/2 acre and only use 40 percent of the battery. I also have the 615 blower and the self winding string trimmer, awesome tools.
I have the 2135sp with the same 615 blower and power load weed eater and I have to swap batteries so I have no idea how you're getting half an acre done on half a 7.5ah battery, all of my tools were bought in the last 3 months because i was sick of gas and wanted to go electric so maybe I got a dud or my grass is thicker than yours
Could you go over the modular system they have? It looks like you know besides the weed tremor edger polsa rule room whatever there is an extension Pole
I have the first Ego lawnmower i think its the LM2101, push mower came with the rapid charger and 5AH battery. I got it in clearance at the Home Depot back in 2019 or 2018 cant remember but i paid only $199 plus i had a $20 off coupon that basically paid for the sales tax so i got a deal. Im in South Florida so i mow year round and had no issues with this mower. I did upgrade (sort of) to the Ryobi 40v self propelled since i moved out of a condo with a small 1100 sq ft yard to a house with a much bigger yard. Havent used the Ryobi yet because the Ego just keeps going man. I have their 650 CFM blower, string trimmer, and multi-head that i use with the edger. All great tools. None are the newer tools because i think Ego just keeps making the same tools with fancy “upgrades” that are really more of a luxury than necessity for really high prices. Just get the basic model of whatever Ego equipment and it will do the job for most people many years to come. I havent had to use their warranty because i have not had any issues with any of their equipment. I love Ego and would recommend their OPE line to anyone, pro or DIY.
I've had a similar experience except I think I bought my mower in 2016 new for $400 or $450. The only thing I bought "fancy" was my string trimmer. It has the carbide shaft with auto string loader. I also have an edger, hedge trimmer and pole saw, bought without batteries. I bought a 16" Ego chainsaw 2 years ago with the 5ah battery included so I could use it in my mower. All my tools have never broken down. My first string trimmer came with a defective battery from day one. The brand new replacement has worked flawlessly for about 4 years.
I’m actually taking my Ryobi Select Cut back this morning and buying the LM2156 XP that’s on sale right now. I enjoy the spreadsheet. The Ryobi feels cheap and has a weird pause while mowing that causes me to break stride. I just don’t like it.
I bought the one with the 7.5ah battery. Good mower, good battery, the self propel is unrefined. It works for me, I have to charge the battery about twice per mow. Thinking I'll buy the leaf blower and utilize that battery.
That will work well. I bought an Ego chainsaw with 5ah battery to use with my mower and it works great. I have one of the original push mowers and that battery got weaker after 4-5 years but still works. The newer battery is 2 years old and I haven't noticed any degradation yet. Now I can always have one charging or charged while using the other one. I basically only use the newer one 80% of the time because it's better. With you not having yours as long, the spare will be interchangeable.
The LM2021 is actually a great price! It includes the charger and battery. The charger costs $120. The 5Ah battery costs $160. So this means the lawn mower by itself is truly only $220. It's not the lawn mower that's expensive. It's the battery and charger that are!
I went to Lowe’s to check out 56v 7.5 Ah one the other day and it has plastic wheels. My gas one is rubber. Is that going to be an issue down the road? Also I thought mulchers and side dispensers were included? I didn’t see either.
With Ego's higher-end/more expensive mowers, the mulching blade and mulching plug are in the box, as is the side dispensing chute. But maybe these aren't included with the lower-end models.
The bag is included on all models and the mulcher is an insert to put in when not bagging, which comes on all the units too. My model included the side discharger but I wouldn't recommend it. It's better to just mulch it or use the bagging feature. I've had my mower for 8 years now and wheels are still OK. They are a little worn but they seem to last as long as the rubber wheels on gas mowers.
What I need to know I have replaced one mower cause self propelled went out does anyone know if there’s a brushless motor on the self propelled units if not everyone’s in trouble
I don't believe I've ever seen a company more appropriately named than Ego, a great double entendre. 😊 The spreadsheet (chart) is better for comparison of products than the narrative.
Love your videos and love the bear. I am a fan of spread sheets so yes I would love to see more. Thanks for helping keep us informedon the things that really matter to most regular people and things we can actually control.
I do appreciate the spreadsheets for a video which compares more than two or three products. It would have been nice to have a comparison of the chargers in the spreadsheet, listing charging times for the different battery capacities.
You said something that seeing the comments on FB ads is a point most people miss. Yeah, if it would take you 2 hours to cut your grass with a push mower; of course you don't want a mower that runs about 45 minutes. I live in a mobile home and have a 40V Ryobi with a 6Ah battery and can cut my grass 3 times on a charge.
I bought a EGO LM2142SP dual battery self propelled mower last July for $729, it is now $699. It is a great mower for cutting grass. But I'm finding it lacking in the fall when I mow over the fallen leaves and mulch them up. My old mower, an old Honda had a mulching blade with two levels of cut. I'm wondering if I could get a similar blade for the EGO and get similar results. I'm not sure which blades would fit the EGO.
They sell a mulching blade set for their SelectCut mowers (the ones with two blades). They’re about $40 for the pair. There’s another set designed for more suction if you’re bagging them.
I really want to buy a EGO mower to replace my gas model, but I'm very worried about losing function. My lot has approximately 10,000 square feet and I use my mower heavily in the fall to help vacuum and mulch leaf debris. My lot is flat and I can push. I don't need self propelled. Any feedback on models with 7.5 or 10 ah batteries would be appreciated.
get a honda hrx while u can, change the oil every few mows at first and it will out live you. thats a large lawn, the hydrostatic model, no belts, even with thicccccccccc af Bermuda I have to run after it, even if the grass is wet. If you have a thin weak lawn, electric would be fine though
I sold my self propelled, after using it for a yea,r for $500 and bought a Simplicity riding lawnmower. I still have the weed eater, chainsaw, hedge trimmer and blower. These are all older models but work great. I only had two 2.5 ah batteries and the fast charger. A friend of mine has a big lot and the grass is at least 2' high. I started with the weedeater but the batteries would not last as long as I would like. They do charge fast but I wanted a bigger battery. At Lowe's the 6 ah battery was $350. A bit much so, I bought the 2114 basic model for $400 and got the 6 ah battery and charger. That mower has a high lift blade and no side chute, just a plug. It is not self propelled and just mulches. Believe it or not, I was able to mow the grass setting it on high and making 2 passes. I think it lasted somewhere between 45 minutes to an hour. Still a struggle because it is a big lot. I'm getting ready to go over there and use a grass whip and see how that goes. Lol.
I purchases (and returned) a Greenworks 40V mower with a steel deck. But didn't seem powerful enough for my hills. It was on sale. During the second mowing, the batteries died. Their models are confusing too. I expect the 80V pro model is great. But I probably buy the Ego next spring.
I think you can get the dual charger in a kit, but if with a snow blower. Which would be great for us that live in a snow region. Thanks for another great video really enjoy the videos.
You can get the dual charger in the snowblower kit…but it’s not fast. I ended up buying a second fast charger instead of using the dual that came with it. The 2 5Ah batteries can be charged before the 2 5Ah batteries in use run out as long as you use the fast charging.
Thanks for this. I’ve been planning on getting one of these and noticed the large variation/quantity of models. I will unironically be mowing at night! Why else do I have night vision?
Mine didn't last two mowing seasons before it would randomly cut out while mowing and tell me that the handle wasn't extended. They're junk. I'm going back to gas and purchasing a new Honda today.
Buying the self propelled Ego was a mistake for me. The battery dies really fast, even when pushing manually. Now I have the drag of the drive gear working against me while pushing. If you buy the optional 10 AH batter, the drive system might be OK. I bought a small gas powered lawn tractor instead. The Ego is my touch up unit for tight spaces only.
I have a section of grass that regularly stalls my Honda so I went with the high torque 8.3 and it powers straight through no problem. A larger yard for a city area 10 AH single battery is perfect.
@@denoftoolsperfect! I’m in the greenworks 80v line and I got the single stage and love it. My 70s era gas 2 stage is pretty wore out and I want a GW 2 stage but they are so much more the everyone else so I’m exploring other options for battery 2 stage
@@denoftools So you never said how long you think an EGO mower will last. And then you have a battery that will probably have to be replaced in four years.
You may want to look at the actual and recommended charging options for LI batteries. Battery University is a good source. If you want your overpriced battery to last as long as possible, you don’t let it run to zero and you don't charge to 100 %. So your runtime is drastically reduced along with a number of other considerations that one needs to consider (fast vs. Slow charge...)
EGO batteries can’t run to zero. They are protected with a voltage cut. So over-discharging isn’t at all a threat. They are balanced charged, I wouldn’t hesitate to charge the, to full provided I’m not leaving the, sitting around after the charge. Storage should always be at 50% or thereabouts, that’s usually a LiPo thing, but honestly it’s a good practice. I agree with what you hinted at. The rate of charge has probably a greater impact than anything on cell longevity (assuming a protection scheme is in place for the cells). The slow chargers are absolutely the way to go. Preventing heat build up in a cell is critical to longevity and higher charge rates do impact battery temps. But not charging to full is an arbitrary and wasteful endeavour IMHO. It’s not possible to do that with precision with these chargers and I do not see the value in partial charges based on their use case which is to perform. All batteries slowly die. Willingly taking a hit on performance or capacity to protect the cell is putting the battery before the equipment. Job/equipment first. The battery cannot be the primary consideration when measuring against use and performance IMHO.
I want a 22 inch mulcher. It actually seems way bigger than even a 21 inch that it replaced. 20" are toys. What does a battery cost? When my newish Toro needs replacing perhaps electrics will be where they need to be.
I have this 21 inch model, and I can tell you that the touch drive is not just an on-and-off button, it does vary speed depending on how far you rotate the switch. It's not just an on-off button
@@jimlogsdon5308 The touch drive are just buttons on each end of the handlebar. The speed adjustment is separate and in the center of the handlebar. They're separate, right?
Hard disagree on the best battery tech statements. I’ve had two 7.5ah and a 5ah die at two years. My remaining 5ah has had its runtime significantly reduced.
I have the lm 2102sp and have had it for my 3rd summer and been pretty happy so far. The battery has been solid. Have most of the ego tools and the batteries are interchangeable so I use the 7.5 ah in my snowblower as well. My yard is around 7k square feet and uses around 3/4 of the 7.5 battery. The 2156 was last years top model and the 2167 is this years top model. I have every charger other than the turbo one. I basically only use the rapid charger and the 2 port that came with my snowblower.
FWIW, I have the dual charger (it came with my snow blower). It charges 2 X 7.5Ah batteries in about 90 minutes from one bar to full. My 10Ah batteries take longer, but I haven't timed those yet. (Check back with me in December and I'll let you know)
Hi Jeff ! Just wanted to say that I watched your entire video and enjoyed all of it . I live not far from where you live in the winter months, Henderson Nevada. The reason I kept watching you was because you reminded me of my father who did his due diligence back in the early 80’s with Honda mowers. I actually ended up buying a Honda mower myself and it performed flawlessly for many years . This was when I lived back in western New York. Now that I live in Henderson, there isn’t a speck of grass in my yard. Some times I miss mowing the lawn , but that came with shoveling snow, which I don’t miss at all . The wife and I love your channel. Oh , the most favorite was when you ended it by mentioning Tom Brady being a cheater ! We still laugh about it occasionally. Keep up the great content !
Back yard lawns I get but the people who have those immaculate grass lawns in Nevada just make me angry. There is no reason for that. Our last house though had artificial. It was nice but boy could it get hot.
Whoever makes a 26” deck mower will have my blessing and the blessing of millions of men. I’m getting pissed having to mow for 2 hrs a quarter acre lot
Ryobi and Greenworks both have 30in models. Greenworks used to have a 25in but they may have discontinued it when they introduced the 30in. Greenworks is targetting professionals so while the price looks the same, the Ryobi is a complete package (includes batteries, etc) and a day or two ago Home Depot was offering a free blower and trimmer with purchase.
i have the Power+ 21" i have had it a few years now i have a 1/8th acre lot with 1000sqrft house and 20x20 garage and i use the ego in the fall to bag leaves in early fall before they get super deap and the grass is still growing and it will do my entire yard on a charge and just be complaining about low battery as i finish up it is a 5 ah battery so this year i got the string trimmer that has another 5ah battery,
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I went down a rabbit hole to decode the EGO mower model numbering system. LM, of course, stands for Lawn Mower. Here is the additional info.
Series Features
2100 Base mower
2110 Base mower with higher torque motor
2120 Touch Drive
2130 Select Cut, may have Touch Drive, includes blades M E and may include H U
2140 Two battery compartments for Peak Power Technology, same torque as XP
2150 Select Cut, XP for even higher torque, Touch Drive, includes blades M H E U
2160 Select Cut, XP for even higher torque, Speed IQ replaces Touch Drive
Last number "0" indicates "Tool only" - battery not included.
Blades: M-Mulching; E-Extended run-time; H-High-lift; U-Upper blade
Nasa should hire you! Cheers!
Thanks. Is the mulcher and side dispenser pieces included in all models?
Very helpful!
@@inquisitvem6723 yes
Thank you. This info is really helpful
This guy sounds like that bear that used to do this stuff
Yeah, weird.
He is the guy just not using the bear animation. 😂 I’ve been following him for years.
This dude is an animation, the bear is still the voice behind this CGI human.
He's the bear.
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I have a Honda self-propelled 21-inch mower that I purchased over 19 years ago it still runs beautifully and it has an easy start to boot.
I tossed a new Toro in the trash after a year, the hydrostatic Honda HRX I have now will outlive me, it's just awesome, my grass is basically 1.5" of thick carpet Bermuda, max speed I have to run after it it mows so fast and never bogs. Scalping is next level.
You still get to smell like gasoline fumes!
Same here, have a rear wheel drive 21" Honda mower for a decade and still looks brand new. I rinse it off after every use, sharpen the blade every 15 cuts and only use non ethanol gasoline. Starts every time on the 1st pull. I dont see the need to spend $700 for a plastic mower that can barely mow 1/4 an acre
@snotbubbles3276 I've had the base Ego lawnmower with 5ah battery and rapid charger for 7 years. The battery started waning a little 3 years ago. I bought a 16" chain saw with 5ah battery 2 years ago and use it for the mower. That mower never needed any service other than cleaning the base above the blade after cutting very wet grass a couple of times. I never have to change the oil. I never have to drive to get gas. I plan on getting a new blade this year but my original blade has never been sharpened or replaced yet. When I do replace it, I can put the mower on it's side and never worry about spilling gas or oil, either.
Im trying to sell mine(Honda 5.5) for a battery one. No takers for the past two weeks. Selling for $80. It appears no one is interested in gasoline mowers ☹️. Heck I was willing to exchange it to get my drive way power washed and no takers.
I have the barebones LM2101 (non-propelled, 5Ah,). It does a fine job on my 3000sf+ lawn (0.2 acre). I have several other Ego tools, so I have 2 more 2Ah batteries. I never have to worry about running completely out of juice. My only complaint is that it only goes down to 1.5".
Plastic vs Steel Deck: For the vast majority of people, the plastic deck will be perfectly fine. Unless you're constantly running over rocks and sticks, the plastic deck will be substantially lighter and easier to maneuver. There is almost no vibration with an electric motor vs a gas motor, so there's very little risk of the deck cracking. Having an electric mower with a metal deck adds unnecessary weight for most situations.
Push vs Self-Propelled: Pushing a gas mower is far more work than pushing an electric mower. With an electric mower, you don't need the heavier metal deck and gas motor and you don't have the constant vibration. I had both an Ego push mower and an older Honda self-propelled mower. It is easier to push the Ego than to let the Honda propel itself. Most people would be really surprised at how easy it can be to push one of these.
Runtime: The best situation is to have all of your OPE on the same battery platform and have multiple batteries. It's so much easier to "restart" an electric mower once it's run out of power than to "restart" a gas engine after it's run dry. My old Honda (15+ years old) was a PITA to get started after it ran dry.
13 Different Models: Absolutely ridiculous. They don't even need half that many. They're just cannibalizing their own market. They only need 1 non-propelled, 1 high-end self-propelled with all of the features, and 1-2 lower spec self-propelled models. They keep coming out with more and more models that have very little differentiation from the existing models. They have done the same thing to their blowers, string trimmers, snow blowers and Zero Turns. Way too many models of the same basic piece of equipment.
Prices: The prices for their lower spec stuff are fine. The prices for the top spec stuff are pretty ridiculous. The added performance and features are nice (I would guess), but you pay dearly for the privilege.
Overall OPE lineup: What they have is great (I have 5 pieces of equipment). But, they're missing several key categories. Where are a backpack sprayer, tiller, dethatcher, and REEL MOWER??? I'm sure that they would build great choices in those categories IF they ever bothered to try. But they keep churning out new models in their existing categories.
Thank you. A couple questions. Do all the mower batteries from EGO work on all the EGO mower models? If I buy the 56v 7Ah 21” mower , can I use the 6Ah with the mower? I guess it’s a matter of form factor right? If the battery fits in the mower, then it will work? The other question is a self propelled one worth $100 more than a push one? If something goes wrong with the sp feature, I can still just push it like a push one right? Or will it disable the entire mower? You mentioned that push mowers on battery mowers are really light assuming it’s a plastic deck which is why I’m considering push instead of self propelled. I just know my non self propelled gas mower was a pain in the butt over the years. Thx.
What about generic 56v batteries I’ve seen on Amazon. Some off brand ones. Have you bought any and tried it?
They do have a tiller attachment now. It goes on the multi-tool. I haven't used it but I saw it browsing yesterday.
All the batteries are compatible with other Ego products except it takes an adapter when you use a backpack.
I too have the 2101 for 4 years.....along with 4 other Ego tools.
I've never been completely happy with the 2101....cut quality,mostly due to its weak suction is my main gripe.
I've done the dual blade conversion.....maybe helped a bit.
I have 0 need for self propelled.....but Ego appears to be pushing me to that cause availability of Ego push mowers here in Canada is......bad.
I love the convenience.....so for now I'll just use it.
The blower,whipper and chainsaw are awesome tho.
@@rodjbosch Earlier this spring I got a high lift blade for the 2101 push mower and the suction and cut quality improved a lot, especially the suction. It was still the single blade, not the conversion, though.
I purchased my EGO LM2100SP back in the Spring of 2017, Its still going strong. It came with the 7.5 Ah battery which is still working well. The only problem( recent within the last 2 yrs) is that one of the speed control wires has an intermittent such that with the handle extended to operating length has full speed only. Not a problem for me since I never use the SP in my yard with St. Augustine grass( I count it as a workout instead of going to the gym that day) Great Channel BTW.
I have an EGO push and an EGO SP. They work fine, especially for houses I'm fixing that I need a portable mower to tote to every 2 weeks. Can't understand why they'd put a steel deck on one, the plastic decks seem fine, light and won't rust.
Wow!! Thank you!!! I saw all of those 20-22" mowers (15 now) and thought EGO must be crazy. Can't wait to check out your spread sheet!
I have the original 21" self-propelled mower , bought June of 2016. Still going strong, original battery still works fine, bought a 2nd battery 2 years ago, use it every other mow.
Thank you for the information and the spreadsheet, wasted 30 minutes at Ego website looking for lawn mower weights.
Thanks Red! This was very helpful and I appreciate you responding to my question.
I’ve been using an Ego mower for 5 years now on good old South Florida St Augustine grass and it’s been the best mower I’ve ever owned…and I loved my classic asymmetric Lawn Boy. The only thing I had to do is clean the batter terminals and replace the mower blade.
Australian Ego user here. Bought a 52cm Ego push mower last year. The fast charger was faulty out of the box and only charged the battery to half charge, then shut down. Ego Australia typically provides smaller batteries and charge a lot more than US counterparts. The Z6, for example, is almost $10k here (US$6,600!) and is only supplied with 4x 10ah batteries 😡 The push mowers are usually only supplied with 5ah batteries.. I do like the push mower, now that I have a replacement charger, but I'm pissed that we have to pay so much here for downgraded products..
52 inch?
@@mactive11 No 52cm lol
52" - that would be a 'unit' of a push mower. My bad
I read that Ego had a bad batch of batteries & chargers which they replaced under warranty without fuss. It happens to any manufacturer
I agree 100%. Shopping for an EGO is worse than looking for a bottle of wine or a good cigar. Way too many mower options. I finally gave up looking at the different mowers.
Ahahahahahahhh, Unbelievable. So confusing... Is the LM2156SP better than this LM2020SP?
@@rhoodj Agreed, way too many choices.
@markm921 The Greenworks 80v 21" is good. However, very bad customer service. Unreachable.... It is like they hide themselves.. on the phone for about 2 hours, 👎🏿no
answer.. 👎🏿 I had to return their products. Only 2Ah batteries are available to buy. And almost everything are stamped and marked RC - reconditioned
My concern, and I don't know enough to be sure, is that each of these electric manufacturers are making mowers with no standardization between them, and so every part will be proprietary and must be purchased from factory. Everything breaks eventually, and when these break the parts will be too expensive to repair and these will end up on the curb. I hope I'm wrong.
I agree with your findings. I have their line trimmer and leaf blower and have been really impressed with the battery technology. By the way, that $1000 mower is that price because it comes with a 12ah battery. If you were to buy the 12ah battery by itself...it's $600! I'm an EV guy, so I like to compare some of this stuff to EVs. You'll see some of the Hyundai and Kia EV cars that cost over $50k, but you sit in them and the materials used feel more like a $25-30k vehicle. The high price is because of the batteries. You'll see a lot of hate online for EVs and battery powered equipment because of this, but we're at the dawn of this technology. I predict in the near future, the prices will drop with better battery technology that becomes lighter in weight, and cheaper to source.
As an owner of many EGO products, I welcome improved battery technology. I foresee smaller and lighter power sources, or batteries the same size but with many times the capacity.
Battery prices will never drop, lithium batteries are a perfect cash cow... The biggest 18650 is still around 3.5ah, the tech hasn't gone anywhere fast in the last 10 years.
Now companies are switching to cheaper lfp batteries which Ford says cost as little as $80/kwh but the cost of their battery pack is like $36k, that's a massive profit margin, same as ego, here in Canada its basically over $1000/kwh for their batteries and that's a total rip off, that's basically 90% of their business...
Yes to the spreadsheets! Thank you!!
So helpful, thanks! No Ego power equipment here yet but I did use of their batteries to “re-battery” an e-bike and it worked great. A mower, a trimmer, and a chainsaw from them are on my shopping list.
Great video, you just saved me so much time, also LOVE the spread sheet. Thank you!
The spreadsheet is very helpful, I'm trying to decide what to buy and the website was too confusing. Thank you.
I also have a Husqvarna gas mower that now has a Briggs engine on it, but I got my LM2100SP about 5 years ago half price (about $245 then), open box at Home Depot--somebody returned it for some reason. Has worked great, it's a great stand-in when the gas mower won't start for whatever reason, and I still use it for the lion's share of our almost 1/2 acre yard. I can almost mow the entire yard using self-propel with a 10 A-H battery. I will put a new blade on it for the first time very soon when I powerwash and do the winter layup maintenance on both mowers. I also have an Ego 18" chainsaw and a pole saw, and four batteries of different A-H capacity.
I'm new to your channel, but you had me at "I habe a spreadsheet." Awesome! Thank you!!
I've got an 18 year old Sears Craftsman 21 in SP mower. It simply won't die. All I do is regular yearly maintenance.
I bought a Hart 40 volt 21” with self propelled drive two years ago. Paid $175 at Walmart and it came with battery and a charger. It was on sale in October. Works great, no issues, and it mulches. Not as powerful as my older gas push mower. I was looking at the prices on several brands of electric, and the prices are insane. Glad I got that deal on the Hart!
Thanks for doing this!!! I’m sure some people with their cathode ray tube TVs and landline phones will complain about electric. That said these make sense for a lot of people. A lot of people never change the oil or filter in there mower (apparently some mowers try to claim lifetime oil - what???)
Like me, I have a small suburban yard (1/6 acre). When ever I’m sick of dealing with my 11 year old sears craftsman with the older flat head engine, I’ll get one of these.
It’s still kicking but that said, it makes a lot of sense for people like me who have small yards in a high cost of living area like Seattle. I’m not paying 80 bucks every time to have someone come to mow my yard. Having no basement puts garage space at a premium, so being able to fold the mower up and hang it would be a game changer. My neighbor has an electric that he hangs on the wall of his garage. That alone might be worth the 100-200 bucks extra for electric.
The other thing I noticed when I bought my old gas mower (229 dollars at the time), I couldn’t find a decent mower on Craigslist for anywhere close to under 100-150 bucks. I was broke at the time and just got one of the cheapest ones at Sears. Now, used gas mowers here are much cheaper used than they ever were. I see working ones go for Free on Facebook at times. Clearly the market is changing, especially in the urban or dense suburban communities.
I will stick with my gas mower for as long as possible. If there's a natural disaster or a terrorist attack that takes out the power grid, I'll still be able to mow my lawn. You won't (after you drain whatever is left in the battery).
@@duckpwnd Haha you’ll have the nicest yard in the apocalypse.
If that happens, keeping my lawn nice probably won’t be my biggest priority nor would I waste my propane on charging a mower or waste my gasoline if I have a gas mower.
If the grid goes down, how would you get gas? Pumps aren’t gonna work. People are going to panic and scramble and all the stations that might have gas would be out of it anyways. You can’t keep big stocks of gasoline unless you turn it over, with an extra thanks to ethanol.
It probably would be easier to rely on solar and back up batteries for bare essentials for a long term crises than gas unless you keep a very healthy reserve of propane. Something to consider if you are preparing for the worst.
One of my next projects is to get a generator and interlock, and set it up so it can run off of gas, natural gas, or propane in case the big cascadia subduction zone earthquake comes along. I’ll probably get a larger propane tank too so I can run the generator.
Outside of the apocalypse, I just want garage space and minimize the maintenance. With my mowing taking about 20 minutes, gas doesn’t really make sense anymore.
@@BuddyTobyTV I have a 5 gallon gas can. I'm pretty good about keeping it filled up and it lasts for least a few months. If need be, I'll convert it biodiesel.
It would be an easier time to find a way to charge for 40 min a week, then to convert a gas engine to bio-diesel fuel. Give me a break.
At the 48 seconds you said that they are all brushless but the cheapest models aren't brushless and that's why it has less power, less price and less run time.
My last mower was a Honda, lasted 23 years for me and was still running when I sold it. Bought another Honda and it’s great. Let’s see what an ego looks like if it makes it 5 years.
I have a 20-year-old Toro personal pace with Tecumseh motor. It's still going strong. My father gifted me a new one two years ago and it's still sitting in the box. LoL
Get a gas mower if your in a hot temp state! It was a nightmare trying to cut my grass with my EGO constantly overheating!
I live in SC and it is very hot and my Ego mower has overheated once in 7 years.I just had to leave the battery out for 10 min. I've wasted more time than that trying to start a gas mower.
I bought a 21" sp ego that adjusts the speed to your walk speed,Problem is the wheels don't disengage when you come to the end of the run. Other then that I love it. So I went out and bought a used 21" sp ego with three speed control knob. It's way better then the speed iq. As soon as you release the speed lever the wheels disengage like they should.
Is the LM2156SP better than this LM2020SP?
Have you tried the speed iq mower I’ve seen some comments saying turning isn’t great
Been using them for 9 years and still going. Same mower and orig. 4.0 battery still work.
Hello again, Jeff and Mrs. Bear 🐻
Thank you for another Great Video 👍 Again thank you 😊
Thanks for your time doing my homework. I appreciate the spreadsheet that I use for a better educated shopping trip.
Bought a loaded mower blower and weedeater for my daughter has been working fine so far two years old.
The Den of Tools.. Thanks for this one. We need to get something like that for my mother-in-law because she has a very small yard. She has a Kobalt one but but it doesn't cut very well and the battery only does half of her back yard. We bought her a new battery for it but now it's doing the same thing. She is too old to do it so we go over every weekend and cut her yard for her.
Any recommendation on which model would be best for a newbie who has never mowed before and has a 1/4 acre relatively flat yard?
Thank you in advance!
You should explain the Ryobi and Greenworks line up as well. You do a fantastic job!
Has the LM2167SP been discontinued?
Thanks!
Sorry I didn't respond to this before, still trying to figure out how to follow this new super thanks thing. Thanks for supporting the channel!
Love my weed trimmer my ego weed trimmer. Hassle-free !!!
It's nice not to have to worry about gas oil rubber tubes corroding.
So convenient I have my eye on their riding lawn mower but out of my price range
I would not recommend the folding up the mower after every use. It will weaken the wire at the folds and lead to mower needing repairs.
I like what you’re doing. I’m not a bells and whistles guy. I use a 21” gas powered non SP push mower for mowing where I can’t get to with my rider, when it dies I’ll get the Hart 40v cordless non SP push mower. If you want to get heated up come to Texas😅
After getting my ego I feel for other companies. They are light years ahead of anyone else!
I have the 2125 21" touch drive, 7.5amp hrs battery this thing is a beast, I love it. I mow a 1/2 acre and only use 40 percent of the battery. I also have the 615 blower and the self winding string trimmer, awesome tools.
I have the 2135sp with the same 615 blower and power load weed eater and I have to swap batteries so I have no idea how you're getting half an acre done on half a 7.5ah battery, all of my tools were bought in the last 3 months because i was sick of gas and wanted to go electric so maybe I got a dud or my grass is thicker than yours
That's when I don't use the self-propelled
The blower uses up the battery very fast
Could you go over the modular system they have?
It looks like you know besides the weed tremor edger polsa rule room whatever there is an extension Pole
What is the blade rpms compared to a standard mower and vs a lawn tractor?
Is the LM2150SP better than this LM2020SP?
I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a GreenWorks 25" 80v mower that just recently came out.
GREENWORKSCOMMERCIAL
82V 25" Self Propelled Mower with 8Ah Battery and Dual Port Charger (82LM25S-8DP
I have the first Ego lawnmower i think its the LM2101, push mower came with the rapid charger and 5AH battery. I got it in clearance at the Home Depot back in 2019 or 2018 cant remember but i paid only $199 plus i had a $20 off coupon that basically paid for the sales tax so i got a deal. Im in South Florida so i mow year round and had no issues with this mower. I did upgrade (sort of) to the Ryobi 40v self propelled since i moved out of a condo with a small 1100 sq ft yard to a house with a much bigger yard. Havent used the Ryobi yet because the Ego just keeps going man. I have their 650 CFM blower, string trimmer, and multi-head that i use with the edger. All great tools. None are the newer tools because i think Ego just keeps making the same tools with fancy “upgrades” that are really more of a luxury than necessity for really high prices. Just get the basic model of whatever Ego equipment and it will do the job for most people many years to come. I havent had to use their warranty because i have not had any issues with any of their equipment. I love Ego and would recommend their OPE line to anyone, pro or DIY.
I've had a similar experience except I think I bought my mower in 2016 new for $400 or $450. The only thing I bought "fancy" was my string trimmer. It has the carbide shaft with auto string loader. I also have an edger, hedge trimmer and pole saw, bought without batteries. I bought a 16" Ego chainsaw 2 years ago with the 5ah battery included so I could use it in my mower. All my tools have never broken down. My first string trimmer came with a defective battery from day one. The brand new replacement has worked flawlessly for about 4 years.
I’m actually taking my Ryobi Select Cut back this morning and buying the LM2156 XP that’s on sale right now. I enjoy the spreadsheet. The Ryobi feels cheap and has a weird pause while mowing that causes me to break stride. I just don’t like it.
I just purchased this evening as well and it's online at Lowe's too.
I bought the one with the 7.5ah battery. Good mower, good battery, the self propel is unrefined. It works for me, I have to charge the battery about twice per mow. Thinking I'll buy the leaf blower and utilize that battery.
That will work well. I bought an Ego chainsaw with 5ah battery to use with my mower and it works great. I have one of the original push mowers and that battery got weaker after 4-5 years but still works. The newer battery is 2 years old and I haven't noticed any degradation yet. Now I can always have one charging or charged while using the other one. I basically only use the newer one 80% of the time because it's better. With you not having yours as long, the spare will be interchangeable.
The LM2021 is actually a great price! It includes the charger and battery. The charger costs $120. The 5Ah battery costs $160. So this means the lawn mower by itself is truly only $220. It's not the lawn mower that's expensive. It's the battery and charger that are!
The model is not the best
Where can you contact them directly for parts ??
On Ego's website. To see a list of parts (which might not be complete), enter "parts" into their website's search field.
I went to Lowe’s to check out 56v 7.5 Ah one the other day and it has plastic wheels. My gas one is rubber. Is that going to be an issue down the road? Also I thought mulchers and side dispensers were included? I didn’t see either.
With Ego's higher-end/more expensive mowers, the mulching blade and mulching plug are in the box, as is the side dispensing chute. But maybe these aren't included with the lower-end models.
The bag is included on all models and the mulcher is an insert to put in when not bagging, which comes on all the units too. My model included the side discharger but I wouldn't recommend it. It's better to just mulch it or use the bagging feature. I've had my mower for 8 years now and wheels are still OK. They are a little worn but they seem to last as long as the rubber wheels on gas mowers.
Awesome presentation..Have you reviewed LM 2206sp 22 inch....
Too heavy and too expensive
What I need to know I have replaced one mower cause self propelled went out does anyone know if there’s a brushless motor on the self propelled units if not everyone’s in trouble
I don't believe I've ever seen a company more appropriately named than Ego, a great double entendre. 😊 The spreadsheet (chart) is better for comparison of products than the narrative.
I see alot of these on Craigslist that won't start due to the relays breaking in the folding handle.
I am about to replace my LM2022SP. Should I choose the LM2156SP or LM2200SP?😮😅
2200 has an Aluminum deck, it's 1" wider, and has a solid boost in cutting power. The question only you can answer is do you need that?
Love your videos and love the bear. I am a fan of spread sheets so yes I would love to see more. Thanks for helping keep us informedon the things that really matter to most regular people and things we can actually control.
I do appreciate the spreadsheets for a video which compares more than two or three products.
It would have been nice to have a comparison of the chargers in the spreadsheet, listing charging times for the different battery capacities.
You said something that seeing the comments on FB ads is a point most people miss. Yeah, if it would take you 2 hours to cut your grass with a push mower; of course you don't want a mower that runs about 45 minutes. I live in a mobile home and have a 40V Ryobi with a 6Ah battery and can cut my grass 3 times on a charge.
Thanks for the spreadsheet 🎉
I bought a EGO LM2142SP dual battery self propelled mower last July for $729, it is now $699. It is a great mower for cutting grass. But I'm finding it lacking in the fall when I mow over the fallen leaves and mulch them up. My old mower, an old Honda had a mulching blade with two levels of cut. I'm wondering if I could get a similar blade for the EGO and get similar results. I'm not sure which blades would fit the EGO.
They sell a mulching blade set for their SelectCut mowers (the ones with two blades). They’re about $40 for the pair. There’s another set designed for more suction if you’re bagging them.
Model numbers seem to be LM (lawn mower) ## (deck size) ## (random?) SP (self-propelled).
I really want to buy a EGO mower to replace my gas model, but I'm very worried about losing function.
My lot has approximately 10,000 square feet and I use my mower heavily in the fall to help vacuum and mulch leaf debris.
My lot is flat and I can push. I don't need self propelled.
Any feedback on models with 7.5 or 10 ah batteries would be appreciated.
get a honda hrx while u can, change the oil every few mows at first and it will out live you. thats a large lawn, the hydrostatic model, no belts, even with thicccccccccc af Bermuda I have to run after it, even if the grass is wet. If you have a thin weak lawn, electric would be fine though
I sold my self propelled, after using it for a yea,r for $500 and bought a Simplicity riding lawnmower. I still have the weed eater, chainsaw, hedge trimmer and blower. These are all older models but work great. I only had two 2.5 ah batteries and the fast charger. A friend of mine has a big lot and the grass is at least 2' high. I started with the weedeater but the batteries would not last as long as I would like. They do charge fast but I wanted a bigger battery. At Lowe's the 6 ah battery was $350. A bit much so, I bought the 2114 basic model for $400 and got the 6 ah battery and charger. That mower has a high lift blade and no side chute, just a plug. It is not self propelled and just mulches. Believe it or not, I was able to mow the grass setting it on high and making 2 passes. I think it lasted somewhere between 45 minutes to an hour. Still a struggle because it is a big lot. I'm getting ready to go over there and use a grass whip and see how that goes. Lol.
No more chance to do the work out... no more sweating..
I purchases (and returned) a Greenworks 40V mower with a steel deck. But didn't seem powerful enough for my hills. It was on sale. During the second mowing, the batteries died. Their models are confusing too. I expect the 80V pro model is great. But I probably buy the Ego next spring.
I just bought the 2135sp with the 7.5 battery and quick charger new on Amazon for 499.00. That’s near 300 off retail.
I think you can get the dual charger in a kit, but if with a snow blower. Which would be great for us that live in a snow region.
Thanks for another great video really enjoy the videos.
You can get the dual charger in the snowblower kit…but it’s not fast. I ended up buying a second fast charger instead of using the dual that came with it. The 2 5Ah batteries can be charged before the 2 5Ah batteries in use run out as long as you use the fast charging.
Thanks for this. I’ve been planning on getting one of these and noticed the large variation/quantity of models. I will unironically be mowing at night! Why else do I have night vision?
Does Lowe's provide a good warranty customer satisfaction? Thanks.
Yes I never had a problem with Lowe's
I got a EGO mower this year, got the select one with the 8.3 torque with self propelled….didn’t like the IQ because it was jerky….
Happy with it…
Mine didn't last two mowing seasons before it would randomly cut out while mowing and tell me that the handle wasn't extended. They're junk. I'm going back to gas and purchasing a new Honda today.
Buying the self propelled Ego was a mistake for me. The battery dies really fast, even when pushing manually. Now I have the drag of the drive gear working against me while pushing. If you buy the optional 10 AH batter, the drive system might be OK. I bought a small gas powered lawn tractor instead. The Ego is my touch up unit for tight spaces only.
I have a section of grass that regularly stalls my Honda so I went with the high torque 8.3 and it powers straight through no problem. A larger yard for a city area 10 AH single battery is perfect.
You should do an updated video on electric 2 stage snowblowers since there’s so many now.
Ego just sent me there to top-of-the-line two-stage blowers so we’re gonna have a video on those as soon as we get some snow!
@@denoftoolsperfect! I’m in the greenworks 80v line and I got the single stage and love it. My 70s era gas 2 stage is pretty wore out and I want a GW 2 stage but they are so much more the everyone else so I’m exploring other options for battery 2 stage
My John Deere is 30 years old and still runs like a top. How long you think that EGO will last
Longer than a JD walk behind mower built today 😂
@@denoftools John Deere stopped building walk behind mowers 12 years ago bro.
@@Jimmy-Legs exactly!
@@denoftools So you never said how long you think an EGO mower will last. And then you have a battery that will probably have to be replaced in four years.
@@Jimmy-Legs and I have another video that compares gas to electric and shows that cost of ownership is identical. 😮
You may want to look at the actual and recommended charging options for LI batteries. Battery University is a good source. If you want your overpriced battery to last as long as possible, you don’t let it run to zero and you don't charge to 100 %. So your runtime is drastically reduced along with a number of other considerations that one needs to consider (fast vs. Slow charge...)
EGO batteries can’t run to zero. They are protected with a voltage cut. So over-discharging isn’t at all a threat. They are balanced charged, I wouldn’t hesitate to charge the, to full provided I’m not leaving the, sitting around after the charge. Storage should always be at 50% or thereabouts, that’s usually a LiPo thing, but honestly it’s a good practice. I agree with what you hinted at. The rate of charge has probably a greater impact than anything on cell longevity (assuming a protection scheme is in place for the cells). The slow chargers are absolutely the way to go. Preventing heat build up in a cell is critical to longevity and higher charge rates do impact battery temps.
But not charging to full is an arbitrary and wasteful endeavour IMHO. It’s not possible to do that with precision with these chargers and I do not see the value in partial charges based on their use case which is to perform. All batteries slowly die. Willingly taking a hit on performance or capacity to protect the cell is putting the battery before the equipment. Job/equipment first. The battery cannot be the primary consideration when measuring against use and performance IMHO.
I want a 22 inch mulcher. It actually seems way bigger than even a 21 inch that it replaced. 20" are toys. What does a battery cost? When my newish Toro needs replacing perhaps electrics will be where they need to be.
My mother used hers once, and it no longer spins the blade. It will take off..just won't mow
What about actual blade length? I’m reading that the 21” models actually have 20” blades. Therefore standard 21” universal blades won’t fit
The 21 inch figure refers to the deck diameter, for which the blade length is 20.5 inches, at least according to Ego's listed specs.
A replacement or backup battery cost as much as the machine. And will deteriorate. Saw a dead one on a half cut lawn yesterday. lol.
Can you do one of these on Stihl battery mowers?
I'm willing to bet that the last two digits are related to the year of launch, or the year where the most sales were expected.
Good review. Like the spreadsheets.
Does Ego make a mower with a true "side" discharge, not a rear discharge?
No. Most manufacturers have switched to rear discharge as they mulch better and don't have the issues with flying debris shooting out of them.
Great video love the spread sheet
Im digging ego. Lots of good second hand deals here and there online.
I believe the touch drive is just a fancy way of saying it has a button. It doesn't control speed or acceleration beyond on and off.
I have this 21 inch model, and I can tell you that the touch drive is not just an on-and-off button, it does vary speed depending on how far you rotate the switch. It's not just an on-off button
@@jimlogsdon5308 The touch drive are just buttons on each end of the handlebar. The speed adjustment is separate and in the center of the handlebar. They're separate, right?
@@ViolentEngineeringcorrect. Touch drive is just on and off like the op said. The variable control knob/rotator in the middle controls the speed.
Hard disagree on the best battery tech statements. I’ve had two 7.5ah and a 5ah die at two years. My remaining 5ah has had its runtime significantly reduced.
Hey tool bear, did I just see you at the Denver airport? (6/22/23) terminal B
Nope. I try to avoid airports all together.
@@denoftools I almost went up to the guy and asked if he was you. He could have been your twin.
I have the lm 2102sp and have had it for my 3rd summer and been pretty happy so far. The battery has been solid. Have most of the ego tools and the batteries are interchangeable so I use the 7.5 ah in my snowblower as well. My yard is around 7k square feet and uses around 3/4 of the 7.5 battery. The 2156 was last years top model and the 2167 is this years top model. I have every charger other than the turbo one. I basically only use the rapid charger and the 2 port that came with my snowblower.
FWIW, I have the dual charger (it came with my snow blower). It charges 2 X 7.5Ah batteries in about 90 minutes from one bar to full. My 10Ah batteries take longer, but I haven't timed those yet. (Check back with me in December and I'll let you know)
Hi Jeff ! Just wanted to say that I watched your entire video and enjoyed all of it . I live not far from where you live in the winter months, Henderson Nevada. The reason I kept watching you was because you reminded me of my father who did his due diligence back in the early 80’s with Honda mowers. I actually ended up buying a Honda mower myself and it performed flawlessly for many years . This was when I lived back in western New York. Now that I live in Henderson, there isn’t a speck of grass in my yard. Some times I miss mowing the lawn , but that came with shoveling snow, which I don’t miss at all . The wife and I love your channel. Oh , the most favorite was when you ended it by mentioning Tom Brady being a cheater ! We still laugh about it occasionally. Keep up the great content !
Back yard lawns I get but the people who have those immaculate grass lawns in Nevada just make me angry. There is no reason for that. Our last house though had artificial. It was nice but boy could it get hot.
Whoever makes a 26” deck mower will have my blessing and the blessing of millions of men. I’m getting pissed having to mow for 2 hrs a quarter acre lot
Ryobi and Greenworks both have 30in models. Greenworks used to have a 25in but they may have discontinued it when they introduced the 30in. Greenworks is targetting professionals so while the price looks the same, the Ryobi is a complete package (includes batteries, etc) and a day or two ago Home Depot was offering a free blower and trimmer with purchase.
Yes I do my most productive mowing at midnight 😅
I use too cut my lawn at 1 in the morning, worked second shift and lived in the country.
Much nicer than doing it with the sun beating down on you.
I love north enough, and far enough west in the time zone, to hear mowers and blowers until 11 pm during the summer.
i have the Power+ 21" i have had it a few years now i have a 1/8th acre lot with 1000sqrft house and 20x20 garage and i use the ego in the fall to bag leaves in early fall before they get super deap and the grass is still growing and it will do my entire yard on a charge and just be complaining about low battery as i finish up it is a 5 ah battery so this year i got the string trimmer that has another 5ah battery,
They have a new 22" 11ft lbs of Torque! But..$1200
Thanks for this video.