Arnold Schwarzenegger FINALLY Reveals His Olympia-Era Steroid Stack - My Analysis
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He trened hard. Eat clen. Tested his limits. Dbolished his goals. Anavar gave up. Stack of champions 💪
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Whoa thats really original
Why are people still making these comments
I've never heard that 5000 times before you just said it
😂
One of his biographers described how Schwarzenegger was consuming PEDs "by the fistful" in the 1960s, and generally in far greater quantities than his competitors, simply because he was totally focused on achieving the best possible physique, and wanted every possible advantage.
I think it was either Ric Drasin or one of his guests that said back in the day Arnold used to pop dbol like tic tacs.
I seen a documentary years ago of the couple in England that let Arnold live with them and they mentioned he would take a handful of dbol with his 8 egg breakfast. A handful doesn’t sound like 15mg 😂😂
Honestly, with his well known drive and ambitious mindset, this sounds WAY more likely than "TRT test and a few Dbol per day."
There are quite a few old school guys that stated damn near everyone would have a candy bowl laying out on the counter in their homes filled with dbol and later on sometimes anadrols and they would just grab a handful and threw em down like M&Ms
It's hard to speculate, but I think that Arnold may have a touch of Marfan syndrome which would have contributed to his surgeries for his aortic aneurysm and bicuspid aortic valve much more than any abuse of anabolic steroids. Looking at some of his grade school photos that show a brow line and lower jaw that appear to have a much higher bone density than would be typical for prepubscent males leads me toward that conclusion. Additionally, he appears to have larger hands than average. Obviously, this is not to say that he didn't take more gear than he is letting on, just that his heart issues are probably genetic and not caused by ultra high doses of steroids.
In reality they don't want to admit how reckless they were.
In reality he hasn't died yet so he probably wasn't reckless...
@nobody7116 In reality most people who abuse steroids don't die early... its only a few that do and its highlighted when they pass away.
@@nobody7116those old guys were just as reckless, they just didn't have the availability or knowledge that we have today.
@@nobody7116 He's had 3 heart surgeries as he not? He's not healthy and is being kept alive by his wealth. Healthy are those dudes setting WRs in their senior age categories in athletics events. Dudes who can still sprint at 80, that's healthy.
@@-RoyBatty-89heart surgery due to a genetic condition where he has a bicuspid aortic valve in his heart, a condition he was born with, i think his mother and grandmother died with complications of the same condition
Yeah, he definitely took a bit more than that. He was a super competitive person, bit of a bully to other Bodybuilders. There's no way he just took what everyone took, he would have gone bigger or gone home. I do think he didn't take as much as the heavy hitters these days, but more than he admits to. Like a criminal who admits to the robbery but not the murder.
I just left a comment saying the exact thing. It's like a criminal admitting to a crime and minimizing it.
@@vzeller “Yeah I went to jail, but it was just petty theft” said the bank robber 😂
He wasn't that big at all. He had good biceps and good chest. That's genetics.
@@charlesdean640 yeh arnold wasn’t that big lol wtf r u talking about
@@improvedlifestyle7979 Arnold limited himself to 250lbs body weight and then sculpted himself down from there.
His Mr Olympia competition weight ranged from 235lbs and 246lbs.
This reminds me of the "gentleman's agreement" Japanese auto makers had in the 90s and 00s. Everyone made exactly 276hp wink*
Yeah. 276 HP at the wheels with a sock over the exhaust pipe and 40 octane fuel.
whats that?
@@neskec90 back in the 90's Japanese car manufacturers got together and for the sake of road safety made a "gentleman's agreement", according to which they wouldn't make cars that put out more than 276 SAE horsepower or 280 DIN horsepower. The thing is that in reality Japanese car makers violated the agreement right and left. When actual cars would be put onto a dyno - they'd often make 40-50 horsepower more than advertised. USDM and JDM versions of the same engine would often put out radically different numbers (some folks might bring up the JZA80 Supra, but it really isn't a good example, since the USDM cars actually had different turbos, a better fuel pump, among other upgrades, but there is the Nissan Cima that used the same 4.5 liter V8 as the 3rd gen Infiniti Q45, what's curious is that in the former case the engine put out 276 HP, while in the latter it was rated at 340 HP - by the early 2000's Japan's car makers weren't really taking the agreement seriously, at some point they just ditched it altogether).
Exactly
Let's go!!! So many uploads lately. So glad to see you being more active Derek, I know your schedule is probably insane. Really enjoyed the webinar as well you did with Marek, was glad to have one of my questions answered! Thanks again bro.
My man, glad you enjoyed it! And also very glad to hear I got to one of your questions. I hope to do more of those in the future too.
I think it's time to retire "let's go!"
@@dr.loomis4221 No
@@dr.loomis4221 why? Just words my guy. Who cares? Life's way to short to trip out on phrases
@@dr.loomis4221 I 100% agree. Doesn't matter if it's "just words bro". Think of something else to say, it's stupid. Let's go!!!! That doesn't sound stupid whatsoever??? Okay
Unless you are literally tied to someone 24 hours a day, you have no idea what they are taking. I'm talking about the people that say "I train with them, I know what they take."
Nah, I'm done with drugs for today. I'm gonna go poop, tho. I need my gym bag.
Casey Viator did an interview where he flat out said these low dosage claims by the golden era pros are complete BS and that most of them take as much if not more than the bodybuilders of the 90s.
Like 2-3 grams of deca/primo a week, 50mg dianabol daily and crescormon hgh.
What got the guys in the 90s huge was improvements in gear quality, insulin and higher calorie diets in the offseason.
So I don’t buy any of this 100mg primo a week. That’s enough to suppress your hpta and that’s about it.
my thoughts too. 100mg test? Yea fuckin right, thats equivalent in ng/dl to a natural testosterone number, hed look natural if he was on that.
Ric Drasin said he and Arnold tried Crescormin back in the 70s. But everytime Arnold speaks on his experience with PED's he says he never used Growth Hormones. They will simply never tell the truth, and will always minimize & downplay their use. It mainly comes down to ego and not wanting to be seen as drug addicts or drug abusers.
Bro looked like he was on 100mg of D-bol for the Colorado experiment
A lot of kids look up to him. The responsible thing is to downplay for the casuals.
Guys in the 70s were not taking more lol. And better gear quality in the 90s?? In the 70s it was legal so they were all taking pharmaceutical. By the 90s it was illegal so it had to be sourced from dodgy places. The big difference in the 90s was the start of guys using GH
In Arnold’s time they also weren’t as shredded so he’d come in looking bigger/fuller just because of not having to be so lean. Which makes the mass monsters even more unbelievable.
They are on insane amounts of drugs for the most part.
@@bobjohnson1633 ? Obviously and what does this comment have to do with anything 😂
Extremely important point
He’s probably a natty peasant hanging around these parts to look down on real men who take gear!
@@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69 something about 'real men' defined as 'take gear' is causing some errors in my Eastern European operating system. I have a great-aunt who lives in the mountains, mostly without electricity, she still carries milk buckets every day, morning and evening, about 50 kg, uphill, on wet grass, in rubber boots, at 90 years old. And then walks the cows out 5 km round trip up and down the mountain, shoving logs along the way (that's how fences and gates are made there). She's probably more fit than Arnold and never heard of 'gear'. Hell, she's probably more of a man than you lol.
3 MPMD’s videos 3 days in a row.
I used to pray for times like this.
lol
Stop 🛑 that's gay
Its Schwarznegger, you have to assume he's not telling the truth at all 😆
Like the rest of democrats.
He's saving it for his next book. All celebrities write a confession book sooner or later. It starts out fine with "The Secrets To My Wholesome Success", the follow up "My (real) Story", then we get "My True (dark) Story", and when their career tanks we get "Why I took DRUGS - Based on true events".
Arnold is as honest as Mike O`Hearn...
I think O'Hearn perhaps has just used various doses of testosterone only? He doesn't have the appearance of someone who's used heavy doses of various steroids he looks pretty healthy
@@peternagy-im4beDude... What the fuck are you on about. At like 55, Mike still has an absolutely ridiculous physique that blows most bodybuilders twenty years his junior out of the water. At his age (or any age, for that matter), it is impossible to look like that with only "various dosages of test". The dude blasts heavy shit and has done so for decades at this point. It's only because he's a genetic phenom that his body has been able withstand it for as long as it has.
@@peternagy-im4be Used or using ?
he just divided his dosage by 10, he actually meant 1000 mg of test a week and 30 d bols a day
English is not his first language. Just got "day" and "week" mixed up.
This is exactly what I was thinking.
Or bodybuilders are just smaller back then and people are just injecting much more these days and are just trying to justify themselves by saying they are lying.
Lmfaoooooooo
Arnold still working out at like age 75 is impressive
After his heart surgeries yeah.
@@maxdamagushe was born with a defect. Comment is invalid.
Mr White 😮
Gotta stay in shape for the next mamacita.
Unlimited money to stay young (ie, the best of everything, stem cells, personal doctors and therapists, chefs, etc) not impressive.
I trained at the original Golds in Venice Beach in the late 60’s to mid 70’s . I got pretty close to Dave Draper who knew exactly what they took. 50mg peak Dbol , 7 cc a week Durabolin , lots of Rx diuretics. And this was around 69-71
So 1000mgs week peak? 700mgs deca, 350mgs dbol week.
How much testosterone?
500mg to 1g?
Jesus. Arnold really must have a koltan alloy endo skeleton to survive that 😱💀🤖
@@C0d0psapparently most preferred to not use test back then. Ric Drasin said he got primobolan from Arnold and Franco and that at that particular time those 2 were only using high doses of primo and dbol and not even deca at that particular time
@@micahclark9208 what about parabolan , it was synthesized in 1960's
Ric Drasin said Arnold brought the best Primobolin from Germany and Arnold was known for taking the most Dbol of any bodybuilder on the planet back then.
Arnold was always reportedly big on Primo.
Yep Arnold is a prolithic liar so no one should take him seriously
Arnold Numero Uno!!!
There are anecdotal interviews with his gym buddies who say there were tons of pills every day, for example metanabol, anything new that came out, they would immediately take and he was known for pushing those limits.
Exactly, and he had the heart surgeries to show for it!
I thought Arnold got all his testosterone from eating green berets for breakfast.
That and too much red meat.
@@alantyndall85 no such thing as too much red meat.
Why are you everywhere
Thank you for not just disappearing after you made it big in the supplement game, your vids help me a lot
Seriously. The fitness/lifting community NEEDS Dereck. He is the counterbalance to broscience bullshit.
This didn't age well :(
He went way higher than that. By lying about his dose he gets the social points of being "honest" about his steroid dose but he also gets to lie about how much he took and look more magnificent than he was.
He was always a lying politician as his main hobby. Did whatever to pay the bills on the side.
Exactly. I feel like most pros and even regular tools that admit it, lie about the amounts for the exact reasons listed here. It's like when a criminal admits what they did, they usually minimize it.
The whole point of "underplaying it" is to make sure they aren't encouraging someone much younger to start off with dumb amounts of gear; a knowledgeable person who already knows about gear should be able to figure that part out as well.
@@Masami_Salami Yes because corporate America, entrepreneurs, and millionaires care about kids. 😄😄😄😄What the F country do you live in? Because here in America, they let children choose what gender they want to be. Get real. You think anyone in those positions cares about the greater good? K.
right? 100mg of test a week? absolute bullshit,Arnold lol
Good to see Derek go into full power with long episodes. Oh I’ve missed these so dearly
All of the Golden Era guys downplayed their usage
The Arnold Interview is from 25th Anniversary of Pumping Iron from 2002.
Arnold really used 40-100mgs Dianabol day and 2-3 grams of injectables like primo, deca, test, parabolan.
I forgot what parabolan is/was? Was that the first inception of tren or masteron?
@@vs4571 Tren hexahydrbenzylcarbonate
2-3 grams? idk man. probably more like 1.5g
@@hurpaderpp 2 grams easily, 800mgs test 700mgs primo 500mgs deca.
@@DG-nb6fe if thats the case its amazing he never got acne
Dianabol was developed by Ciba Pharmaceuticals and was available in 1955 (from memory). It's nearly 70 years old and still a favorite today.
I think it was created in response to the Russians creating injectable test and juicing their Olympians, America needed to compete.
Your close... organon introduced d bol in 1958...prior to that test wasnt alkalated and would break down on the first pass through the liver...by adding a carbon at the 19th position of the ring it allowed the test molecule to recirculate several times before breaking down
@@richardlawson6787 DBol is Metandienone, which was indeed first made by CIBA in 1955.
Also, you've got your carbons slightly wrong:
To be orally active, a steroid has to be alkylated at carbon 17 (making the methyl group C-20).
Natural T itself already has a C-19 methyl group.
17-Methyltestosterone actually predates metandienone as the first orally active steroid by two decades; problem is that methyl-T had a relatively high affinity for both 5-AR and aromatase (leading to long-lasting active metabolites), so it was nowhere near as well-tolerated as DBol.
Why don't you invite Arnold in a podcast..would be great to see him talking about steroids use, training etc only.
Year ago Derek uploading two videos daily was normal.
Today even single video felt lika a treat
That's when sarms were popular
dudes a busy man. after Rogan he's just making rounds on podcasts alot lately
Derek is back with his classic style of highly informative content glad to see it UA-cam needs more of this 👍
Love that you have dedicated your life to this research...You have helped me so much with my overall health, and size. Truely from the bottom of my heart (that hopefully has no cardio issues) THANK YOU!!! Keep up the great work.....
So this dude taught you to juice to the gills just like him?
What I find most unbelievable is that he stayed on the same starter dose the whole time. If your doctor prescribed you three d-bol a day and 100 mil of primo at age 20, you are going to start experimenting with different doses by age 21, and most likely you are going to be experimenting in the upward direction. So sure, he can say "I took 3 d-bol a day and 100 mil of primo" and not be lying, but it probably isn't the whole story either.
He's lying.. He knows he had a body that made people envious and he even said so himself he don't want anyone duplicating his reg which proves he is worried so why would he be honest about how much he was taking? I heard him talk before that he'd take 3 Dbol a day
All the guys experimented back then. Frank Zane's nickname was "The Chemist" and he wasn't one of the bigger guys.
They all experimented but would back off the dose when side effects got too out of hand.
And because steroids were legal, there was no stigma about going to a doctor to have them give their input.
@@teamrgvbodybuilding1772 find a good Endo tell them your on roids and they will fix you to get your levels back to normal.. that's here, that's then and that's always
@@teamrgvbodybuilding1772 If you go to the doctor now, 2023, and he prescribes you anabolic steroids, it's legal.
Thats a lot of steroids just what he admitted...my cousin took just 15 milligrams of d bol for six months straight and he looked amasing...and very muscular...it doesnt take that much to build a ton of muscle
Great take Derek! Enjoying these uploads! They all used more than they say they did. Mike Torchia (a former Mr. America) went on record stating that his friend Sergio Oliva, whom he trained with in Chicago back in the 70s, used to take 21 Dianabol tabletts a day, 7 with each meal. And this would have been in addition to Deca Durabolin which Sergio has mentioned as the other steroid he took alongside Dianabol. Now in all fairness to Sergio Oliva, he never detailed exactly what and how much he took, so per default he was never dishonest anyhow, unlike some of the other renowned bodybuilders of the Golden Era. But that goes to show that the top guys back then were using large amounts, or did whatever it took to attain the physiques that they were shooting for. Though relative to today's aspiring Pro and top amateurs their dosages were low/moderate. I think the top guys of the Golden Era like Arnold, Platz, Oliva etc were pushing the limits and were on the higher end of drug usage for their time, whereas the lesser known guys may have been the ones on the "3 Dianabol a day and a shot per week" regimen. Maybe that was what "Mr. Texas/Mr. whatever state" champion was on.
21 a day 😮 Holy shit
@@markverhoeven4114 those pills back then we're like 5mg each so it was max 100mg a day lol. Go peep the Bulgarian Protocol they popped like 150tablets 😂😂
I was taking 30mg a day of Dbol and it was like I was pregnant with water weight, I could feel it giggling around on my stomach, no thanks.
Agree that it’s unfortunate that there’s been a lack of attention to the progression of the anabolic/androgenic steroid drug class
Arnold was my inspiration and his first book changed the course of my life. I do believe he is downplaying his PED use and for good reason. He knows that there are many people who believe that drugs are the catalyst to being a successful bodybuilder. Those of us who have been training themselves and others for a life time know that genetics not drugs are the deciding factor. Having said that it was well known back in the 70s that Arnold loved Primobolin. It was referred to as the Arnold drug. It was hard to find and super expensive. In some of his early writing Arnold described how focused he was on his goals, beyond the point of obsession. It's easy to believe he would do whatever it took to gain even the slightest edge.
which book are you referring to?
maybe total recall
@@Ayd1th
You blew my cover!
What's beyond obsession? Genuinely curious
@@rockyevans1584 Chaos
It isnt just the drugs but being on gear MOTIVATES you like nothing else so yes, being kn gear makes you want to keep working out. Someone who has never taken it has no idea how easy it is to hit the gym when just picking up a dumbbell creates a massive forearm pump.
Does that also translate to being more motivated in general? To work, read books, etc? Just curious…
@@hendrongI have to say yes. Being on TRT my overall motivation is a night and day difference from what it was before
@@hendrong Yes.
i was 6 years old back in 1990 when i saw my dad's mr olympia magazine. at that young age, i was awed specifically with arnie among other bodybuilders. since then i literally pose double biceps every photo taken from me. i watched all his movies with my dad. he was such a gem for me back when i was young.
Skrew your freedoms
Me 2 watched every movie with Pops
You're going to cringe at all the pictures of you flexing when you're older. Just stop.
This comment started off reading like you found your dads porno mags and I started having flash backs lol
This is one of the most American things I have read lol
Killin it, Derek. Discovered the channel a month ago and have watched at least 3 vids a day 🤣🤙🏻
I don’t understand the downplaying of the doses. It’s like the people on 600lb life saying “well I only ate a couple salads” not mentioning they were salads covered in fried chicken, a pound of cheese and 10 ounces of buttermilk ranch lmao.
It would come off better even if they were more realistic lies lol.
Ric Drasin described the typical stack those guys used and eluded to the fact most took 3 dianabol but arnold would take 4. In addition Arnold would bring high quality primobolin from Europe, but in fairness would let everyone use it as well. It was his favourite apparently.
Arnold took 4----it's an inside joke.
@@ibbermanas in, he took more
So happy to have you back uploading regularly man! This is awesome
Yes Derek I missed these long uploads I used to listen to them before school you think you could do a breakdown on the high stim gorrila mode sometime?
Man, u're Back. I love ur fucking smile dude. Everytime someone asks me about my favorite YT content, its u and I cant stress enough how fucking down to earth, helpful and good hearted u seem. Love to see u back!
Forgot smth. Possible to get gorillamind in europe/Germany/Austria any time soon?
So you’re saying I don’t need roids I just need to get more tan?
Your lip looks way better Derek.
Glad to know it's Not A Tumor.
did he have monkey pox? From sharing a towel?
I don’t get why he doesn’t just say he wishes he only used that much when he was competing, as the long term health effects are dianabolical.
Asking someone to reveal how much test they do is like asking a women about her body count
Glad you’re posting, needed a change up from the regs.
I wonder if they used high doses to build the physique, then maintained on lower doses to keep proportional. Arnold did say during his prime that if he builds the forearms he’d have to build everything else around it and that he’s basically just working on symmetry rather than size.
This bloke lied his whole life. Why believe what he says now?
Do you believe he was clean all of the years he completed?😕
There are only a small handful of people that know EXACTLY what Arnold did. It's not any of us.
@@MamboGuy914 my eyes don’t lie and they told me Arnie took lots of stuff
You sound just like mentzer. Another hater. Arnold accomplished more than your whole family.
The little rant about how steroids we are using today are the same as what they were in the 70s sounds like Derek is going to be developing the next wave of compounds!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Glad to see you back on your grind. Great video.
In other words, all these people who used and got something from it(career, money etc) are just ashamed of how narcissistic they are. I believe you're completely right in that they're just doing this because the public expects it with the amount of research that keeps coming out. Narcissists don't really care about anyone else, except when it affects their bottom line, plain and simple.
Yes, espacially it is very known that low doses of testosterone can actually have the counter effect of building muscles and more likely makes you more feminine. (sorry for bad english lol)
if they are narcissistic then they wouldn't feel shame over it. being ashamed of how narcissistic you are is an oxymoron
@@jammydodgerthefirst Maybe it would be better to say "he's ashamed of how vain he is."
False. There are both positive and negative ego complexes. If you are a narcissist with a negative ego complex you will derive satisfaction from reinforcing a negative self image. And anti social behavior .. and even go so far as reframing depravity as liberation. As opposed to a positive ego complex where you would thrive on positive self image and pro social behavior..... It's all about vanity and self-righteousness and attention seeking regardless of which polarity it manifests from.
@@jammydodgerthefirst Yeah I think it's false there too. There are two types of narcissists. Those completely oblivious and unashamed, then those that know they are narcissists and ashamed because they know society standards but continue to be who they are because it's in their nature. It's kinda like an addiction, knowing smoking and alcoholism is bad but continuing to doing it.
MPMDs is legit a feel good show. Brightens the day and gets people psyched to workout. Great work big D.
Stop looking up to people online get better role models and don’t be a nerd. Out here sounding like a bad statistic
Great content... Thanks Derek your are my go to for information, opinion, outlook .💪
“I’m not saying they’re bad” right, with about 80% of the guys not making it out of their 50’s……..
I remember him saying in previous interviews that guys would just take 2-4 five mg Dbol tabs a day. So that on top of whatever testosterone got them to the 200-240 most of them were.
Nice vid!! Happy your back man, can't wait for the PB bars to drop 👍🏻👍🏻
Watched this video a couple weeks ago and I wanted to say that I really appreciate your messaging at the end of the video. Its inspired me to take my BP way more seriously.
Imagine trusting anything Arnold says
I think he realisticly took 50-100mg dbol and 800-1200mg primo
Loved the content today bruh. Keep it coming
MY GUYS IS POSTING AN INSANE AMOUNT AGAIN! love the vids bro and I hope you keep posting vids when convenient to you and your schedule bro!
"Screw your freedom"- Arnold Schwarzenegger
All respect lost for Arnold. On top of that he is insane if he thinks intelligent people will believe those numbers.
Arnold is full of sht dont forget he is a polititian
From from a fine Austrian Chad roots to Commie leftist Californian… sad.
From Roman Salute (which he also did posing….. nice) to hammer and sickle…. Ehhh
Imagine getting your panties in a twist over arnie's sensible political opinions
@@tercel9710 Or being a tyrannical leftist. Kinda like his opinions on global warming while continually driving vehicles with single digit mpg. Some of us value our God given rights and don't like goose steppers.
@@tercel9710 imagine buying into all the pandemic scams and thinking it was “sensible”
Mentality back then and still is: "whatever it takes", so it's all just BS.
I have franco Columbus book titled winning bodybuilding and in it he states that its best to stear clear of steroids but that he did experiment with dianabol in his pre contest phase stating that its good to add a quick 5 - 10 lbs of muscle but little else. At least he was actually honest about it way way back in the day while it was unheard of for bodybuilder to share that with the public.
I thought Arnold had said his first surgery was for a bicuspid aortic valve replacement; it's a condition I have and was once mentioned to me by a consultant. You're born with it, definitely nothing to do with gear.
It can be exasperated by gear though, the harder you push your heart the faster the 2 leaves (meant to be 3) wear out and need to be replaced.
I have exactly the same defect. Doctors said 15 years of normal everyday it would need to be replaced, with gear use probably 5-8
A 45 minute video.!? My boy's back to the UA-cam grind I see. How I've missed the unparalleled wisdom of D-Rock, along with the endless plethora of vocabulary I barely understand shot at me with Derick talking 1000 words a minute.
Still amazes me that people aren't subbing but still watching. Because, as far as I see it, nerding out with Derek is a good use of my time. Thanks for the good humour and the research big guy!
Arnold started taking steroids at around age 16. There was an austrian interview with Kurt Marnul, a guy who trained with him when Arnold was Age 16-18 (1963-1965), he said: "At the sports doctor, we had an injection of "ANADUR" administered once a week (today the active ingredient is known as NANDROLONE or DECA DURABOLIN). They contained the ridiculously low weekly dose of 50 mg... "
A lot of these guys who are now coming out about PED abuse are underplaying what they did.
I trained at the same gym as Lee priest in Australia when he was a teenager. He was the most muscular teen I’ve ever seen and v hard to get stuff in Aus back then. Not super strong but freakish to look at. There certainly is a massive difference between top tier guys like him and the rest.
Awesome genetics , did you see the photo of his mum that did the rounds a while back , she was more ripped in her 40’s than most 20 year old male athletes
Love this kind of stuff from you man. Thanks!
Derik.
Have you ever researched Boron?
Pretty amazing. Countries where Boron is low in their soil means low Boron in their bodies- typically weaker, sicker, thinner People.
Lots of research on this topic.
I’m 62 and 80 mgs a week is perfect for my trt. Started at 150 and kept titrating down to lowest effective dose. I’m not body building just wanted typical relief trt gives me. Mostly neurological improvement over depression. 4 each 20 mgs shots per week per Derek’s info.
Even 200 mgs isn't bodybuilding!!it wont make you that much more bigger than 100 mgs a week. All the pro bodybuilders or the jacked IG guys are lying their ass off today so much its unbelievable!!
@@tzahi12370 200 is certainly going to make you a lot bigger than 100 a week, for most people that's going to put them well over the reference range
I use 100mg test and 20mg primo split up into every other day shots
Im 62 and get 125 per week. My test level is around 900 and I feel great.
80 mg with the ester cleaved off is like 55 mg a week.
Average male human produces 3-9 mg per day, so that puts you right in there.
Derek, what was your weekly dbol dosage when you were at "moon face" level? Just curious based off your response at the end. Love the Nitric
Bro the mention you made about the CT Angiogram test is Gold i had the coronary artery calcium scan as the gold standard for checking for cardiovascular disease
These guys are fos. I’d rather they just did the Mike O’Tren and just liked that they were lifetime natty.
So happy youre back dude 😊
Love the uptick in content. More preventative intervention content for general health would be great.
I like upticks
I am glad to see you did your research on ApoB levels instead of just using LDL for cardiovascular risk, and stopped spreading fear from just having high LDL. I would like if you would do specific video where you would dig deeper into understanding of how to test and read lipid panel including explaining audience what is apolipoprotein B and why is it better metric than just check LDL and HDL levels.
I always love watching these videos. As someone on HRT from the female side of things, it's so interesting to see some of the same complaints I've had about it repeated for steroid users. Lack of research into a lot of stuff because funding isnt there, poor knowledge from doctors that then decide things for you, dealing with a lot of the original drugs because "it works" and knowledge hasn't progressed. Really interesting similarities.
@@dylancounte1448 cry about it
@@CosmicCubensis 😂
Just a quick reminder: You will never be a different gender than the one you are born with. Cry about it.
Why are you on HRT
@@BirdofHerm3s sounded cool
Still trying to figure out how Derek is able to hover above the floor like this while creating content.... absolutely amazing.
All these uploads, its like paradise. Keep up the good work 🔥
I gotta say, your new energy drink is amazing. I ordered 3 cases before it sold out. Good work bro!
I only ever used 15mg of Dbol but it was 5 tablets a day 3mg per tablet, and I train 10 years naturally and compete as a middle weight, with Dbol I compete as light heavy weight 181 lbs
Just ask yourself, if 1970's Arnold found a drug that he knew made him bigger and stronger and he had unlimited access to it, do you think he'd only consume the smallest doses possible to see results or that he'd do as much as possible to get as big and strong as he possibly could?
just look at a video of him 17
Great vid derek
Great vid man!
Of course arnold is lying
Derek, you are such a gift to the male community in this day and age of everything being just ego driven. You are a true male role model. Thank you, bro.
Weird and definitely not sad
@@pierrea3094 whats weird and sad?
Derek’s sponsor ad edits are popping off recently for me lol😂
Cool to see you active!
Old school dbol seemed to be a different thing than these days. Some old wrstlers swear thats all they used back in the day.
That's what I read, dbol often contains significant admixture of Methyltestosterone (precursor for dbol), this one gives all the well known side effects (acne, hairloss in unexpected places) but it also causes more water retention, which dbolers like.
But normal non-underground labs also do this often, that's the reason for all the rumors about how Dbol earlier was 2x stronger.
Arnold back then almost looks like a fitness model compared to the mass monsters of today
Only Mr Olympia I ever heard publicly, openly talking about his steroid usage history and amounts was, you guessed it, Dorian Yates.
Love the video! You said lots of medical words I don't really understand, would be great to get some extra information on what a lot of those terms are for the uninitiated.
Arnie saying bodybuilding was always a safe sport.. The man had 2 different heart surgeries. Don't think it's that safe.
4 surgeries
About 20 years I used to train with Kenny who used to work the front desk at Golds in the mid 1970’s. He told me that all the golden era bodybuilders Arnold, Franco, Mike Katz etc.. used to swallow half a bottle of D’bol daily. And Joe Weiders had shoe boxes of PED’s for each guy.
Cool story bro, Kenny must know!!
Weider claimed his stars built their body with his protein powder
@@richardlawson6787 I got Weider's peanut butter protein powder in 1991. It tasted good and got the job done. (But I wasn't looking for more than easy protein.)
I saw an endo and my Estogen is over 300. I dont do any kind of hormone therapy its just a crazy blood test result. We did it again to make sure it wasnt a fluke and it was well over 200. They gave me AI s but I still feel weird and down. Any advise?
I love the 1960s intercom system behind you😮
Back in the late 80s was up the dose and hope for the most and nobody got blood work done!
Arnold had a bicuspid valve. Which, to my knowledge, is congenital and not steroid induced. So, that was probably true- especially because others in his immediate family had the same issue
That's just like how people misjudge why Ronnie is walking with the aid of a cane/walker these days. People just like to jump to the most wild dark reasons 😂😂
Great video Derek let's go.