Sing the Sorrow came out the month before I graduated high school. I remember listening to it for months. Still one of my top three favorite albums of all-time.
This was my intro to AFI.. I had someone take me in as a friend when no one else would when I was 12... He showed me this album and so much more. I have such fond memories of listening to this album he burned me onto a CD (sorry lol) in the winter on beautiful snowy days while I walked to his house before school. We'd sit and draw and basically hide out before we had to go to school and he'd walk with me so I wouldn't get bullied.. He saved me from some horribly dark places in my life after my father died when I was 13 and I really just didn't want to be alive anymore. Him sharing music with me had such a massive impact on me. years later after we went our separate ways and just grew apart he messaged me after he saw me in my university library. he said he didn't want to bother me but wanted to say hello. I told him we should connect and catch up but he killed himself a week later. After that AFI played a show opening for the Smashing Pumpkins in Toronto and I went to go see them by myself for that friend and it was still one of the most beautiful moments in my life. I'm not religious or spiritual or anything but I felt he was there with me. anyways. just saw how meaningful this album was to people and wanted to share my story too. I'll never forget this album.
Sorry. I remember when this album released, at first was like 'man this doesn't feel like Afi..' (I grew up with their more punk phase).. anyway, this album released shortly after my brother died. It ended up helping me a lot and yeahh this album is very meaningful for me too.
An album that still stands the test of time 20 years later. Was there for the anniversary show this past weekend and I can say my heart is full with immense joy and gratitude for these 4 dudes and the record that continues to hold such an impact on my life and so many others. Thank you AFI for putting on a show of a lifetime that I will cherish forever🖤
xdanierox funny story, I met them in 2010 after the show and we were waiting outside on the side of the building with a group of random people and a lot of them were laying on the ground because it was like 1am and Adam was out there with us on the phone walking around and like stepping over people laying on the ground and I could hear them say "I wish one of them would come outside" and I just laughed to myself.
I met him after a show in San Diego. I didn’t expect any of the band members to stay since they just got back into CA from being on the road. Adam & Hunter we’re outside meeting every single fan, taking pictures & just talking. He was incredibly nice! When he learned where me & my friends were from he asked if we could make it to the next show since it was only a 30 min drive...we could, just young kids w nothing going on & he asked us our names & emailed his tour manager them & put us on their guest list! We showed up to a sold out show & got in the pit. It was amazing & my friend was bawling the whole time because she couldn’t believe it was happening. Wasn’t expecting any of that & made me love the band even more being a die hard.
Wow 2019 and I'm watching afi interviews. My whole child hood was afi! Since I heard the boy who destroyed the world playing on tony hawk pro skater 3 !!!!
DUDE THAT'S THE ONE THAT GOT ME TOO sorry I'm so amped haha your comment made me realize which song connected me with them and that's a big deal for me
Sing the Sorrow was my first AFI album (I think I was around 14 when it came out) and then I worked my way backwards through their discography. They're still one of my favorite bands.
This is the album that I first heard and I became an instant fan. This is still probably my favorite album. From that first line from Miseria cantera " nothing from nowhere, I'm nothing at all" I fell in love. Great album and it's a close tie to All Hallows EP. Just because totalimmortal is my favorite song of theirs and it's the first full song I learned on my first instrument, Bass guitar.
I remember hearing this at Tower Records right after it came out. I bought it immediately. They weren't my typical style of music as I was a huge rock, grunge, 90's rock and old school metal fan at the time which I still love but Jade's guitar playing blew me away. Totally copped so many riffs from him from that day. One of my top 5 guitar players from that point to today. Great band.
I saw them in las vegas and they got down ! that energy they bring to the stage is the same energy of when they first started playing shows like ....they can compete and still by far way better then all these new bands today not to mention his not just a singer but his songs are poems . this is AFI !
That's what shocked me when I saw them the week Crash Love came out. I'd seen them when Davey was still growing his hair out to where it was on Sing the Sorrow, then I'd missed them on that tour for STS, then I was deployed early so I had to give up my tickets for the DECEMBERUNDERGROUND tour. However, on the Crash Love one, I was expecting this crazy ass show, now that they had a shit ton of awesome songs since I'd last seen them... but they were only on stage for 45-50 minutes and it was cool, don't get me wrong, but it was kind of like "Yea, they're getting up there, I totally get it." Then saw them right before Burials came out and ho-ly fuck, the best show I'd seen that year, easily. It's like they didn't want to get off the stage and just kept coming up with song after song, for over an hour and a half, playing their hearts out. THAT was the show I thought I was walking into four years prior.
this whole thing is amazing, my favorite records were probably from shut your mouth until sing the sorrow, those 4 albums and the all hallows ep were truly flawless in my opinion, a perfect mixture of melody and punk rock energy. i love the new afi album as well, great band, cool guys! jade is especially talented, love his guitar playing and songwriting....
I got to watch them perform at the forum on March 11. The one thing I didn’t discover is I’m getting too old to be out front where the mosh pit is. They still put on a great show. And even stopped at one point to help one of the fans that have passed out. Unlike that piece of work, Travis Scott, don’t let people die at his concert.
AFI are such humble guys, Davey is one of the most legendary front mans of all times. I will never get tired of his lyrics or voice. Son of Sam and Blaqk Audio are just bonus side projects. I have always loved AFI since the beginning in the 90s and still to this day.❤
Man... this album. When it came out, I was stationed in Fallon, NV (An hour east of Reno) and the album length was perfect, to pop the cd in before I put the car in drive, to it wrapping up the last few notes as I was finding parking every time I went to acting school. I listened to it so much, that based on the song or what verse, I could tell if I was making good time or not. When I had iTunes (Until about 6 years ago) this was seriously still one of about six albums in my 485GBs of music, that I could listen to from beginning to end.
You know what’s crazy? I was and still am a huge afi fan and I bought all the guitar mags of them back in the day and I remember them talking about this album and they said music has become stagnant we are bringing it back. And when I first heard girls not grey on the radio I couldn’t believe how good it was and how different from anything they’ve done. And when I heard the opening song from when I bought the album first day I said to myself “they have done what they said with this” and they did from then on music started morphing from post hardcore and Emo to what they were doing and so many bands came out of this I could tell.
Oddly, I never saw their videos on MTV... and as far as radio play, only heard Silver and Cold once. Then I heard it went platinum and wondered if perhaps music was outgrowing things like MTV and the radio. To be fair this was 2004, before UA-cam and such. I also bought the album like six or seven times, two for myself (Ex wouldn't relinquish possession of it, so I had to buy another one) and Christmas of 2003, that was my gift to people, that year. A copy of Sing the Sorrow.
I remember not knowing them but getting this record and I just loved it and was the only one that loved them with my friends and I remember I was in either 11th or 12th grade at the time. I'm glad to see that their still doing good. And man Davey is still hot as shit.
this album was so important to me when it came out. like i was 12 and going through a lot for a 12 year old. and also this video was uploaded on my birthday which is real neat
I thought you turned from good to great on "black sails " and continued it right to "sing the sorrow " but sing the sorrow resonates deep with me as it has many songs that describe the way I felt/still feel today..depression is a incredible powerful and horrible feeling
Sing the Sorrow and In Reverie by Saves the Day both came out around the same time and I still consider them two of my most important life changing albums. STD and AFI thought me (as a musician - especially in the punk/emo/rock genre) that it’s ok to be melodic, dreamy, moody and atmospheric while rocking hard as balls. Can’t beat AFI gang vocals either, fucking SIGNATURE shit right there.
This album doesn’t have one skippable song. I remember hearing a 7 second clip of this celluloid dream on aol something lol…that song. This band…was just everything in my teenage years and some of collage.
For someone who got into the band when they were still singing about cereal, I actually liked STS. Not as much as their previous output, but it wasn't bad. Decemberunderground is where they lost me, although Burials is a guilty pleasure.
I was first exposed to afi on the "Go ahead punk make my day compilation". And then when this album came out I was like what the fuck. But it grew on me. Like strung outs "element of sonic defiance" they both are now my favorite albums
When I first heard Sing the Sorrow I thought it was a concept album about going major and disappointing the fans. I don’t know how I arrived at that theory, but something about the lyrics felt like a dear john letter to the old fans.
When Hunter said "............." I really felt that Jk jk i've been listening to AFI since the deviantart fandom introduced them to me back in high school (mid 2000s), didnt know the band started the same year I was born 😁 & of all 4 the only one that changed hairstyles seemed to be only Davey
One time Davey almost lost my wallet because I traded it for a sharpie so he and the band could sign some stuff for me but I only met him and he took the sharpie with him backstage to get the rest of the band’s autographs for me but he apologized and then went backstage and found the sharpie and came back and gave me a hug and then I got my wallet back and I hung their autographs up on my wall (they had signed the album insert for me) and then a few years later my mom threw it away when she was cleaning my room before we moved :( I’m sure he remembers. It was only like 20 years ago.
The reason its focusing on dave and jade is because they are both psychotic and immature. The other dudes have been zoning out since Decemberundergeound
Sing the Sorrow wasn’t my favorite AFI album, but it certainly has the best memories for me. I met my wife right before this album came out and that was her introduction to AFI. 18 years later and we still sit around and listen to it together
For some of us old fans sign the sorrow symbolized the demise and end of an era. Hardcore AFI was more than just music to some people. It was a middle finger to the mainstream. Afi didn’t even need to go to dreamworks to “make it”. They were selling out venues and not for cheap. I remember paying like 60$ which was a ton for a artist not in the mainstream. But I understand that that wanted to do things differently by then.
Annoys me how they always have bad things to sat about Nitro and Dexter Holland. Talk about ungrateful. He signed them, let them make 4 albums and 1 EP and rereleased their first album and then when they started to get big helped them sign to a major so they could realise their potential.
DexterLlew sounds to me like you're a dumb person then. If he did all that for them, and they were still willing to air any grievances, shouldn't that tell you they had every right
Whoever decided to put leaving song pt. 2 on madden 04 was a genius.
that's what started it all for me!
facts. Its how i discovered them in the first place haha
Sing the Sorrow came out the month before I graduated high school. I remember listening to it for months. Still one of my top three favorite albums of all-time.
wReckLesss crazy it came out when I just started high school
@@BunAhFassy graduated in 2000?
@@steves3649 sing the sorrow came out in 2003. I graduated in 06
Same
A really master piece, a great and unforgettable classic album
It's really cool to hear them chronicle their whole discography like this!
Sing the Sorrow is a masterpiece from start to finish, but the way it ends with This Time Imperfect is hard to describe in words.
This record just turned 20 years old and I had the honor of watching/listened to it played live in its entirely!
This was my intro to AFI.. I had someone take me in as a friend when no one else would when I was 12... He showed me this album and so much more. I have such fond memories of listening to this album he burned me onto a CD (sorry lol) in the winter on beautiful snowy days while I walked to his house before school. We'd sit and draw and basically hide out before we had to go to school and he'd walk with me so I wouldn't get bullied.. He saved me from some horribly dark places in my life after my father died when I was 13 and I really just didn't want to be alive anymore. Him sharing music with me had such a massive impact on me.
years later after we went our separate ways and just grew apart he messaged me after he saw me in my university library. he said he didn't want to bother me but wanted to say hello. I told him we should connect and catch up but he killed himself a week later.
After that AFI played a show opening for the Smashing Pumpkins in Toronto and I went to go see them by myself for that friend and it was still one of the most beautiful moments in my life. I'm not religious or spiritual or anything but I felt he was there with me.
anyways. just saw how meaningful this album was to people and wanted to share my story too. I'll never forget this album.
Sorry. I remember when this album released, at first was like 'man this doesn't feel like Afi..' (I grew up with their more punk phase).. anyway, this album released shortly after my brother died. It ended up helping me a lot and yeahh this album is very meaningful for me too.
That's a beautiful story and I'm sorry to hear about your friend. At least he is now at peace.
An album that still stands the test of time 20 years later. Was there for the anniversary show this past weekend and I can say my heart is full with immense joy and gratitude for these 4 dudes and the record that continues to hold such an impact on my life and so many others. Thank you AFI for putting on a show of a lifetime that I will cherish forever🖤
Adam looks like the biggest dad in the world bless him. These interviews were amazing; thank you.
This album was REALLY something special, its a masterpiece.
I love Adam. He's so humble and just probably the nicest dude ever 😭
xdanierox funny story, I met them in 2010 after the show and we were waiting outside on the side of the building with a group of random people and a lot of them were laying on the ground because it was like 1am and Adam was out there with us on the phone walking around and like stepping over people laying on the ground and I could hear them say "I wish one of them would come outside" and I just laughed to myself.
You're right. Adam is the nicest one. Hunter's also very nice.
I met him after a show in San Diego. I didn’t expect any of the band members to stay since they just got back into CA from being on the road. Adam & Hunter we’re outside meeting every single fan, taking pictures & just talking. He was incredibly nice! When he learned where me & my friends were from he asked if we could make it to the next show since it was only a 30 min drive...we could, just young kids w nothing going on & he asked us our names & emailed his tour manager them & put us on their guest list! We showed up to a sold out show & got in the pit. It was amazing & my friend was bawling the whole time because she couldn’t believe it was happening. Wasn’t expecting any of that & made me love the band even more being a die hard.
Miranda Rojas woah, what an incredible story!!
Underrated af too.
Just watched them perform sts live in full. It was AMAZING.
Wow 2019 and I'm watching afi interviews. My whole child hood was afi! Since I heard the boy who destroyed the world playing on tony hawk pro skater 3 !!!!
DUDE THAT'S THE ONE THAT GOT ME TOO
sorry I'm so amped haha your comment made me realize which song connected me with them and that's a big deal for me
That was exactly what started it for me. Spent hours on that game.
Sing the Sorrow was my first AFI album (I think I was around 14 when it came out) and then I worked my way backwards through their discography. They're still one of my favorite bands.
This is the album that I first heard and I became an instant fan. This is still probably my favorite album. From that first line from Miseria cantera " nothing from nowhere, I'm nothing at all" I fell in love. Great album and it's a close tie to All Hallows EP. Just because totalimmortal is my favorite song of theirs and it's the first full song I learned on my first instrument, Bass guitar.
well.. those aren't the lyrics lol sorry
I still remember hearing their first single on X103.9. It was a epoch of greatness to see them break through the main stream barrier.
Great interview. Love that album.
This album has been with me for 19 years! Still feels fresh
thank you for the intervirws!
Their best album. Will hold the test of time and unlike many of their contemporaries, this album will be listened to forever
I remember hearing this at Tower Records right after it came out. I bought it immediately. They weren't my typical style of music as I was a huge rock, grunge, 90's rock and old school metal fan at the time which I still love but Jade's guitar playing blew me away. Totally copped so many riffs from him from that day. One of my top 5 guitar players from that point to today. Great band.
I saw them in las vegas and they got down ! that energy they bring to the stage is the same energy of when they first started playing shows like ....they can compete and still by far way better then all these new bands today not to mention his not just a singer but his songs are poems . this is AFI !
That's what shocked me when I saw them the week Crash Love came out. I'd seen them when Davey was still growing his hair out to where it was on Sing the Sorrow, then I'd missed them on that tour for STS, then I was deployed early so I had to give up my tickets for the DECEMBERUNDERGROUND tour. However, on the Crash Love one, I was expecting this crazy ass show, now that they had a shit ton of awesome songs since I'd last seen them... but they were only on stage for 45-50 minutes and it was cool, don't get me wrong, but it was kind of like "Yea, they're getting up there, I totally get it." Then saw them right before Burials came out and ho-ly fuck, the best show I'd seen that year, easily. It's like they didn't want to get off the stage and just kept coming up with song after song, for over an hour and a half, playing their hearts out. THAT was the show I thought I was walking into four years prior.
Sing the sorrow was an album that at that point in my life, saved my life. To these guys I am truly thankful.
To this day one of my favorite records by one of my favorite bands
this whole thing is amazing, my favorite records were probably from shut your mouth until sing the sorrow, those 4 albums and the all hallows ep were truly flawless in my opinion, a perfect mixture of melody and punk rock energy. i love the new afi album as well, great band, cool guys! jade is especially talented, love his guitar playing and songwriting....
I will forever be grateful for Madden 04. Thats where I found out about AFI and A7x. The track listing on that game is legendary.
I heard them on tony hawk 3 I believe it was... the boy who destroyed the world
I got to watch them perform at the forum on March 11. The one thing I didn’t discover is I’m getting too old to be out front where the mosh pit is. They still put on a great show. And even stopped at one point to help one of the fans that have passed out. Unlike that piece of work, Travis Scott, don’t let people die at his concert.
one of the best albums ever recorded
I’ve got this album tattooed on me. It’s got to be my favorite album of all time in rock.
AFI are such humble guys, Davey is one of the most legendary front mans of all times. I will never get tired of his lyrics or voice. Son of Sam and Blaqk Audio are just bonus side projects. I have always loved AFI since the beginning in the 90s and still to this day.❤
Man... this album. When it came out, I was stationed in Fallon, NV (An hour east of Reno) and the album length was perfect, to pop the cd in before I put the car in drive, to it wrapping up the last few notes as I was finding parking every time I went to acting school. I listened to it so much, that based on the song or what verse, I could tell if I was making good time or not.
When I had iTunes (Until about 6 years ago) this was seriously still one of about six albums in my 485GBs of music, that I could listen to from beginning to end.
This is one of my top 3 favorite albums of ALL TIME!
You know what’s crazy? I was and still am a huge afi fan and I bought all the guitar mags of them back in the day and I remember them talking about this album and they said music has become stagnant we are bringing it back. And when I first heard girls not grey on the radio I couldn’t believe how good it was and how different from anything they’ve done. And when I heard the opening song from when I bought the album first day I said to myself “they have done what they said with this” and they did from then on music started morphing from post hardcore and Emo to what they were doing and so many bands came out of this I could tell.
Really loved the bassist’s input on the album 😂
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ my all time favorite album.
Oddly, I never saw their videos on MTV... and as far as radio play, only heard Silver and Cold once. Then I heard it went platinum and wondered if perhaps music was outgrowing things like MTV and the radio. To be fair this was 2004, before UA-cam and such. I also bought the album like six or seven times, two for myself (Ex wouldn't relinquish possession of it, so I had to buy another one) and Christmas of 2003, that was my gift to people, that year. A copy of Sing the Sorrow.
I remember not knowing them but getting this record and I just loved it and was the only one that loved them with my friends and I remember I was in either 11th or 12th grade at the time. I'm glad to see that their still doing good. And man Davey is still hot as shit.
This is the first album I heard from them when it first came out..🔥
loooove this
For me one of the best albums ever made in rock history, period.
this album was so important to me when it came out. like i was 12 and going through a lot for a 12 year old. and also this video was uploaded on my birthday which is real neat
I was also 12, and it was later my first tattoo
I thought you turned from good to great on "black sails " and continued it right to "sing the sorrow " but sing the sorrow resonates deep with me as it has many songs that describe the way I felt/still feel today..depression is a incredible powerful and horrible feeling
My next door neighbor had their Art Of Drowning CD when it was released. That's the first time I heard and fell in love with them.
LMAO at Jade's hair slowly slipping down every time he speaks.
I'm new to watching AFI interviews, so, is Hunter so quiet always?
Musa Benmejía lol yep
Davey and Jade typically do almost all of the interviews.
He's a f'ing anime character.
@Musa Benmejía Yep. Check out Amoeba's 'What's In My Bag' video they did for the Blood Album. He talks quite a bit! He kills it live though 🖤🖤🖤
Sing the Sorrow and In Reverie by Saves the Day both came out around the same time and I still consider them two of my most important life changing albums. STD and AFI thought me (as a musician - especially in the punk/emo/rock genre) that it’s ok to be melodic, dreamy, moody and atmospheric while rocking hard as balls. Can’t beat AFI gang vocals either, fucking SIGNATURE shit right there.
el mejor disco de ellos
This is the first afi album I got I was 13.😁
This album doesn’t have one skippable song. I remember hearing a 7 second clip of this celluloid dream on aol something lol…that song. This band…was just everything in my teenage years and some of collage.
I cannot express enough how much I love "sing the sorrow". I have no tattoos. I'm now 36 and I still want that album cover art to be my first tattoo.
Sing The Sorrow was my introduction to the band but December Underground is my favorite.
Idc what anyone says, Sing the Sorrow is their best album artistically and in general
Black sails 🎉🎉
0:49.... Adam - Drums.. As he's playing a guitar....lol
For someone who got into the band when they were still singing about cereal, I actually liked STS. Not as much as their previous output, but it wasn't bad.
Decemberunderground is where they lost me, although Burials is a guilty pleasure.
This album was them at their peak.
So good, wish it was longer. haha
That's what she said!
Sorry I just couldn't resist.
I'll show myself out lol
Best band for me.
You can tell Davey's moustache game is gonna be strong
Butch Vig made "Nevermind" also :)
I was first exposed to afi on the "Go ahead punk make my day compilation". And then when this album came out I was like what the fuck. But it grew on me. Like strung outs "element of sonic defiance" they both are now my favorite albums
Davey got some awesome shoes.
STS changed my life
Mr. Havok please save some cookies for everybody else.
NEVER
absslsrvnt W O W
cookies forever
🤣🤣 Davey munching on some cookies in the back like a toddler lol
When I first heard Sing the Sorrow I thought it was a concept album about going major and disappointing the fans. I don’t know how I arrived at that theory, but something about the lyrics felt like a dear john letter to the old fans.
i hate that i don't hear one old song anymore
I think Sing the Sorrow is a verrry epic rock album.
When Hunter said "............." I really felt that
Jk jk i've been listening to AFI since the deviantart fandom introduced them to me back in high school (mid 2000s), didnt know the band started the same year I was born 😁 & of all 4 the only one that changed hairstyles seemed to be only Davey
One time Davey almost lost my wallet because I traded it for a sharpie so he and the band could sign some stuff for me but I only met him and he took the sharpie with him backstage to get the rest of the band’s autographs for me but he apologized and then went backstage and found the sharpie and came back and gave me a hug and then I got my wallet back and I hung their autographs up on my wall (they had signed the album insert for me) and then a few years later my mom threw it away when she was cleaning my room before we moved
:(
I’m sure he remembers. It was only like 20 years ago.
I always thought the intro was going to be featured in terminator 3..
The bassist had nothing to say. I felt bad for him :(
Juzo her**
The reason its focusing on dave and jade is because they are both psychotic and immature. The other dudes have been zoning out since Decemberundergeound
@@lindseskinner9024 ... wtf.
I was a bassist for a couple bands and when we had to do interviews I didn’t give a shit if they asked me questions. Let the front man talk.
Maybe if he had something to say he would say something. He is clearly observant and absorbing everything.
Anyone else notice totalimmortal in the credits of Me Myself & Irene?
Sing the Sorrow wasn’t my favorite AFI album, but it certainly has the best memories for me. I met my wife right before this album came out and that was her introduction to AFI. 18 years later and we still sit around and listen to it together
...but home is nowhere is such an epic song.
Turnstile got their mainstream breakout around the 11 to 12 year mark it happens
They pulled a NOFX 😆
We know what causes bells paulsey now. they just arent gonna tell you.
think they need to move back to the squat
For some of us old fans sign the sorrow symbolized the demise and end of an era. Hardcore AFI was more than just music to some people. It was a middle finger to the mainstream. Afi didn’t even need to go to dreamworks to “make it”. They were selling out venues and not for cheap. I remember paying like 60$ which was a ton for a artist not in the mainstream. But I understand that that wanted to do things differently by then.
I am so unbelievably bothered by the way jades hair falls across his face and he just doesn’t do a thing about it.
The last album I can listen to...they hadta go the direction that they wanted to and they needed to but that's when I lost my favorite band.
Annoys me how they always have bad things to sat about Nitro and Dexter Holland. Talk about ungrateful. He signed them, let them make 4 albums and 1 EP and rereleased their first album and then when they started to get big helped them sign to a major so they could realise their potential.
DexterLlew sounds to me like you're a dumb person then. If he did all that for them, and they were still willing to air any grievances, shouldn't that tell you they had every right
Sing The Sorrow was the best album. then Decemberunderground
Albert Noriega not even
Albert Noriega but home is nowhere...
Albert Noriega art of drowning
1) Art Of Drowning
2) Sing The Sorrow
3) Shut Your Mouth
4) Black Sails
5) who cares about the rest
All Hallows is perhaps the best EP anyone has released ever.
after this video i stop watching :( because after this album i stop listening. love afi tho! ciao!
This was when I fell out
Jade's hair annoying af.
Idk, I find my self slightly more annoyed by Davies hair.
Norman Edwards lol I know right !
What? Davey's hair is so much better nowadays.
It's all about the decemberunderground era anime hair.
I wish he would just get rid of that god forsaken hairstyle
i know his hair pisses him off
Davey looks old. That vegan diet is not benefitting him. He needs protein from meat!
Wow this was recorded where oet sounds was recorded - girls not grey and silver and code are excellent songs
Davey sounds like a man when he talks but a woman when he sings