Neural Drive & Why You're Not Ed Coan Explained by Stuart McGill

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @irisk934
    @irisk934 3 роки тому +51

    I listened to the whole podcast, it was a good one. So many people neglect their back until it hurts, and then it's debilitating.

    • @MarkBellsPowerProject
      @MarkBellsPowerProject  3 роки тому +11

      Thanks for checking out the full ep and what you said is unfortunately true.

  • @joseesquea896
    @joseesquea896 3 роки тому +75

    If you have Stu on a 100 times in a row I would listen a 100 times in a row.

  • @ricksikora7270
    @ricksikora7270 3 роки тому +104

    There are levels to knowledge and Stuart is proof.

    • @MarkBellsPowerProject
      @MarkBellsPowerProject  3 роки тому +8

      lol well said!

    • @deadcakesandpanlifts2019
      @deadcakesandpanlifts2019 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah proof you can have barely any quality scientific evidence supporting your claims, yet frame them like absolute truths that have been proved simply by talking in big words.

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller 3 роки тому +2

      @@deadcakesandpanlifts2019 welcome to the fitness endustry.

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller 3 роки тому

      @@MarkBellsPowerProject I wonder what the correct answer would be for grinding out reps overhead , or maybe? floor press ? ...where u can cheat a lil , and complete the lift by grinding it out ? ... instead of failing ? ....it's seems to be a catch 22 , ...cause he talked about form being so important , but not failing in order to get stronger is as well I new this as well , well actually I'm just now learned about how not failing all the time helps unfortunately ...., anyways I wonder ? what would be priority in that situation ....?
      For me , like most , I will cheat a lil , so I can complete the lift on my last rep, if? the previous ones were good 👍.
      I realize cheating a lil can be good for bodybuilding single joint excersises , but I'm not talking about those, I'm talking about the multi joint lifts; ofcourse it probably wouldn't be good for anything lower body obviously , but pressing ............? 🤔.

    • @wellitsjustG
      @wellitsjustG 3 роки тому

      Correct

  • @paulthomas5901
    @paulthomas5901 3 роки тому +55

    To better understand this topic, particularly his comment about trying to make his arm wrestling competitor break his neural drive by smiling, you MUST read the 1998 essay by Doug McGuff, MD, called, "Stoicism in Training" .

    • @tomcastle7625
      @tomcastle7625 3 роки тому +5

      I will check it out. I have been reading stoicism lately, thanks for the recommendation

    • @prasadmanic
      @prasadmanic 3 роки тому +6

      Interesting read. I've been lifting for 15 years; will try to unlearn grimacing.

    • @jamiewalking
      @jamiewalking 3 роки тому +1

      good read ty

    • @chrismosleythept2361
      @chrismosleythept2361 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the reference. I’ll check it out.

  • @jonathannorris-green2379
    @jonathannorris-green2379 2 роки тому +2

    I am so glad they got Dr. Mcgill on. I have been a fan of his work since my undergrad biomechanics courses.

  • @francoisstrength
    @francoisstrength 3 роки тому +46

    "You need to be at the verge of being able to commit murder." Exactly.

  • @jackadoni
    @jackadoni 3 роки тому +2

    "Densification of neural drive" "sufficient stiffness" - he charges per syllable and alliteration

  • @brianfox340
    @brianfox340 3 роки тому +2

    I could listen to him and take notes for hours.

  • @stani991
    @stani991 3 роки тому +5

    Concerning the strongman example. It's obvious that when strength is exhausted the form breaks down and the weight would skew to the stronger side.

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller 3 роки тому +2

      Weird I've known people who do that on the 1st rep , with just there bodyweight.

  • @walrusrider7138
    @walrusrider7138 3 роки тому +4

    man, i could listen to stu all day

  • @joshshefter7013
    @joshshefter7013 3 роки тому +2

    Great video. So enlightening and informative!

  • @samratnarayandasmukharji604
    @samratnarayandasmukharji604 3 роки тому +4

    Did anyone notice how Mr. "Lift through it" (Blue T shirt) actually raises his chin and eyes and thinks of his "Dark place" when Stuart McGill mentions the importance of a "Dark Place" for world champion lifters. That was his "Aha!!!!" moment....mine too... What about the others? My question is whether we should also train with unequal weights on the bar to "Catch" the bar and get it back on track in case we get unstable.......Say starting with 45lbs on one side and a 45lb +10lb on one side in order to train for the instability.....do 2 "instability training sets" with the greater weight first on the left side and then the right side on the next set.....doing 2 sets per weight jump. After all, we are creating "CONTROLLED trouble" ( which is known as Eustress and is different from distress which is OUT OF CONTROL TROUBLE INFLICTED BY EXTERNAL FORCES) for the muscle and mind during our training".....so that our mind and muscle adapts to that training PROVIDED we rest and recover. I have one request to make. You made fun of the movie, Commando, Rocky etc. "Log carrying scene, training scene etc etc". These movies and those two dudes pretty much siglehandedly promoted weight training all over the world. Whatever it was, those are the movie that started it. Thats the reason you have an audience. It will be nice if you can give them their due due respect. Of course, Mark Bell has done a lot to make powerlifting look more friendly by giving us an "Insider" look. Kudos to the great Mark Bell too. My humble gyan. Any feedback either for or against and everything in between the two extremes is most welcome. Plz DO feel free to contradict me.Stay happy everyone. God Bless. Insha Allah. Joy Ma Durga....Durgotinashini. Joy Ma Kali. Joy Baba Taraknath. Om Namah Shivay.

    • @chonzen1764
      @chonzen1764 3 роки тому +1

      I remember a moment in my life when I felt the most anger, hate, and rage I have ever felt. I close my eyes and put myself back into that moment like its happening again. I let the anger hate and rage flow through me. Your hate will make you strong.

    • @ElGnomoCuliao
      @ElGnomoCuliao 2 роки тому

      @@chonzen1764 That for sure cant be good for your health lol

    • @chonzen1764
      @chonzen1764 2 роки тому

      @@ElGnomoCuliao Don't know why. And if you bring it up again I will rip your heart out.

  • @omanduhuislife3367
    @omanduhuislife3367 3 роки тому +2

    Full episode please, this is so good 👍

  • @paulleclaire8252
    @paulleclaire8252 3 роки тому +4

    Fascinating information

  • @natewilson5679
    @natewilson5679 3 роки тому +2

    Wow this is great info! Thanks for posting!

  • @teachmehowtodougi405
    @teachmehowtodougi405 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent info!!

  • @guilhermemaia533
    @guilhermemaia533 3 роки тому +3

    george leeman talked about this too

  • @himanshusingh3933
    @himanshusingh3933 3 роки тому +11

    Eddie hall did same thing in his 500kg dl

  • @synerfect
    @synerfect 3 роки тому +15

    John Haak is gonna soon become the G.O.A.T. IMHO

  • @g9g9g9
    @g9g9g9 3 роки тому +2

    Is there a book on this?

  • @timborders6425
    @timborders6425 3 роки тому

    This is a great talk!

  • @Deepz007
    @Deepz007 2 роки тому

    This is Gold , love you Stu

  • @princeekeson12
    @princeekeson12 3 роки тому +1

    Reminds me of Kai Greene's "rage" speech.

  • @TheJavonplayer
    @TheJavonplayer 2 роки тому

    I know what he is talking about and he's right!

  • @theflyingguillotine7967
    @theflyingguillotine7967 3 роки тому

    This is amazing information

  • @timothydean9407
    @timothydean9407 3 роки тому +1

    Absolutely fantastic!

  • @AsJimSeesIt-ox1sk
    @AsJimSeesIt-ox1sk 8 місяців тому

    How about the west side boys?

  • @scottheaton8469
    @scottheaton8469 2 роки тому +1

    I've always been a lot stronger than my physique would suggest, and it definitely seems to stem from my ability to become a purple faced rage machine.

  • @AllClouded
    @AllClouded 3 роки тому +1

    Great video

  • @samalj313
    @samalj313 3 роки тому +5

    How well documented are those "mom-lifting-a-car" situations really though?

    • @miguelramiro1281
      @miguelramiro1281 3 роки тому +6

      The phenomenon seem to be called hysterical strength... If that helps.
      It seems to be based mostly on anedcdotes.

  • @65vwbug87
    @65vwbug87 3 роки тому

    I see the bo jackson card on the mic :)

  • @darynberndt2944
    @darynberndt2944 3 роки тому

    Hey UA-cam why am I getting spanish commercials, I think it's for the wrong country or settings.

  • @tommcgivern8020
    @tommcgivern8020 3 роки тому +2

    Likes and views should be closer in numbers👍

  • @Wo1fLarsen
    @Wo1fLarsen 3 роки тому +1

    That was excellent.

  • @MMABeijing
    @MMABeijing 3 роки тому +1

    it is not close to committing murder, it.is close to break oneself

  • @gunsnposes.363
    @gunsnposes.363 3 роки тому +9

    he is talking about "world´s strongest man 2017". You showed the wrong exercise and the wrong date lol

    • @WCarr
      @WCarr 3 роки тому +2

      Called out 😂

  • @mitchelljack1590
    @mitchelljack1590 3 роки тому

    Surprised to see former Australian spin bowler on the show

  • @mr4069
    @mr4069 3 роки тому +1

    4:15 Nsima goes to his dark place...

  • @Chris-oj2jr
    @Chris-oj2jr 3 роки тому +4

    Burn the nerves 🤘💀🤘

  • @AM-qu6vu
    @AM-qu6vu Рік тому

    I got a nice pump just from listening to this

  • @SAXONWARLORD1000AD
    @SAXONWARLORD1000AD 3 роки тому +1

    IT MUST BE COLD IN THE STUDIO - THESE GUYS ARE WEARING WOOLY HATS

  • @jackadoni
    @jackadoni 3 роки тому

    Dr. McGill should checkout Dr. McGill's podcast so he can learn how to go to that deep dark place so he can become Ed Coan. He just doesn't want it enough. Too fight and flighty.

  • @831liftingalot
    @831liftingalot 3 роки тому +3

    Yes!!!!!!

  • @jackadoni
    @jackadoni 3 роки тому +1

    Ed Coan's form was sloppy. A lot like Coleman. This guy doesn't know what it takes to be Ed Coan.....or he'd be Ed Coan.

  • @Whocares-z6v
    @Whocares-z6v 3 роки тому

    Stu has some big old hands

  • @MMABeijing
    @MMABeijing 3 роки тому +1

    his books are good, but this dark place murder bs is just stupid

  • @yew2oob954
    @yew2oob954 8 місяців тому

    So, that's the secret...always be angry...Bruce Banner was right.

  • @littlethuggie
    @littlethuggie 2 роки тому

    Yeah, Ed Coan is nothing like a mom pulling a van off a child lmao

  • @c.4946
    @c.4946 3 роки тому +5

    he was able to do this lifting due to large amounts of steroids.. if not nobody would even know his name. wake up.

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller 3 роки тому +2

      Sounds like u been drinking Haterade instead of Gatorade lol!

    • @CatInKnightsArmor
      @CatInKnightsArmor 3 роки тому +1

      Well yeah but he still would’ve been strong af without steroids. If you, me, or anyone else watching this video took as much steroids as he did and trained like him our genetic potential and build wouldn’t allow us to get as strong as him. He’s still a freak of nature steroids or not

    • @c.4946
      @c.4946 3 роки тому

      @Roobs nobody is clean so you have no point. Thanks for coming by the post though 😂

    • @c.4946
      @c.4946 3 роки тому

      @Roobs I just didn’t really care to read it that much in the first place honestly. Again thanks for coming by my post.🤡

    • @ElGnomoCuliao
      @ElGnomoCuliao 2 роки тому

      Not even with all known steroids you would be able to lift half as he did 🤦😂

  • @oldgeezerfitnessr.perales7344
    @oldgeezerfitnessr.perales7344 3 роки тому +8

    Bodybuilders....have no idea about the dark places that strength athletes go to to achieve the state dr. McGill. Is speaking about.......

    • @yungnietzsche2302
      @yungnietzsche2302 3 роки тому +22

      Yeah of course they don’t, the pros that train to a level of volume where they wind up puking and being unable to walk for days due to intense doms, drenched in sweat and training until failure, all whilst on an insane calorie deficit. All those OG bodybuilders who literally tear pecs, biceps, quads and hammies from training too hard, they have nooooo idea. How about not being an elitist fuckwit for a minute, respect all athletes not just the ones you follow.

    • @oldgeezerfitnessr.perales7344
      @oldgeezerfitnessr.perales7344 3 роки тому

      @@yungnietzsche2302 lol....

    • @igriduscirus5345
      @igriduscirus5345 3 роки тому +1

      @@yungnietzsche2302 yeah man lol i just did today hardest set of squats in my life i did 20 reps of 150 kg i give everything and after that set i couldnt finish rest of the sets it made me wanna puke and then i was like man tom platz was someone else

    • @EmilWestrum
      @EmilWestrum 3 роки тому

      You have no idea what you are talking about.

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller 3 роки тому

      Yer right...if they don't power lift .