My takeaways: brace, neutral spine, and hip hinge dominant when heavy/loaded. With the appropriate volume and loading/unloaded any other human movements (e.g. jefferson curls and deep knee bends) are totally fine if healthy. If not, match your movement to avoid your pain triggers until healthy again.
I just recently hurt my back, months of exercise or years rather and even though my back would be tender at first a worked thru it, now though, it kinda hurt more, so I’m stopping all exercise besides walking and a gentle McGill 3, hopefully I can turn this around, it’s been a week and I feel much better already, I want zero pain, because I always had a pretty good physique overall, my face isn’t pretty so I need something to feel good about
@@Freedom-fx7jm thanks man yea totally good ,I heard just walking is good ur the back so I found out ,I like walking, started jumping some rope ,kinda a basic bounce and am adding push ups and burpees But yea so far so good,thanks ,I’m learning,but yea it took like 2.5 to 3 months, felt like a slug , not good but yea ,I’m good
New challenge: technic to lift up an E-roller on one wheel to turn it round and put it to another place. That heavy unmovable thing... I have just crossed over the tip point and hurt my lower trap i presume...
With all respect Professor, but did you realize that you actually flexed in your back at 1:00, when you had to move the bag? Deadlifts are great, but most of us don't really deadlift much outside the gym. We bend over with a round back and pick things up, in the manner that its natural to us. Most human being lift up objects as if they were doing a "jefferson curl", not a "deadlift". So how about making people do more "jefferson curls" so that people become stronger in something they actually use in everyday life situations? People are afraid to lift and move stuff because of their form not being perfect. Meanwhile for most of the western population the pain and injuries are caused by lack of movement and weakened muscles, not by overtraining and overstressing the body. Even though people like McGill have a positive purpose they are misleading people in the wrong direction.
Because you can't make "strong" discs or "train" them to last. You can strengthen the supporting muscles around them but there are plenty of strong backs who's discs have failed. McGill's research suggests (this is a VERY dumbed down example) that spinal flexion is like a bank account, regardless of how good the security at the bank. Every time you flex, you take money out of the bank. On a long enough timeline, many will run out of money. Each spine is different and not all loaded flexion is built equally so results will vary but the research results stay the same. Though I do agree that healthy backs would be wise to exercise healthy flexion movements.
@@alisoncraig597 I see what you mean and I definitely agree about strengthening the muscles that support the spine. That is exactly why I think you should strengthen the spinal extensors as well as all the core muscles and etc. By bending in your back and extending it again. Trying to keep ones back extended to avoid injury is first off impossible because we are most likely to instinctively bend our back when we are not aware of it and second if we how ever manage to keep the lumbar stable at all time, wouldn’t that consequently cause stiffness, lack of strength and lack of mobility? I am not trying to act as if I know it all - I am not even a physiotherapist. I’m just curious! 😅
You need to hit up oh and s people to tell people to teach how to hinge in the workplace. Stu’s job is to educate health professionals. How many companies you know or have work for teaches you how to hinge when lifting a box or an object on the ground? Also most people do not use mindfulness when they do things. Before you even start with deadlift or hinge get people to be self aware or mindful of how they breathe.
McGill goes into this in detail elsewhere. There are numerous studies showing a correlation between round back lifting mechanics and back injuries in various jobs where medium weight is lifted. A flexed spine is fine for some bending and moving but it is pretty clear in the literature that repetitive loaded flexion is a bad idea.
@@RohannvanRensburg I have to agree with the fact that there must have been a correlation between these factors. But I am just curious why are we in such a hurry to conclude that the “correlated factors” are indeed the “causation”. In fact you can look up many sports such as jiu-jitsu or wrestling where people lift each other up with flexed spine and move in “weird” positions. You can look up the strong man who lift atlas stones. My suggestion is that there must be other factors that we are taking to consider.
The problem I have with McGill is that he is extremely condescending -- be this in-person as shown here or in interviews. Yes, we all know you are THE expert and nobody knows what you know! Yawn! A more humble approach would actually make you a nicer person!
What are. You talking about? Dr. McGill is extremely humble. He only brings up athletes he rehabs If he is asked about it. His contribution to understanding the spine has saved MANY athletes backs and has allowed me to finally get enough pain free capacity to start lifting again.
From the best teacher! Working to reduce that quad dominance
@Finn Kayden i did it and turns out it doesn't work, it costs me hundreads of dollars and i regret it
@@mrgrumpycat9049 did what? the guy deleted his comment. please inform.
My takeaways: brace, neutral spine, and hip hinge dominant when heavy/loaded. With the appropriate volume and loading/unloaded any other human movements (e.g. jefferson curls and deep knee bends) are totally fine if healthy. If not, match your movement to avoid your pain triggers until healthy again.
I just recently hurt my back, months of exercise or years rather and even though my back would be tender at first a worked thru it, now though, it kinda hurt more, so I’m stopping all exercise besides walking and a gentle McGill 3, hopefully I can turn this around, it’s been a week and I feel much better already, I want zero pain, because I always had a pretty good physique overall, my face isn’t pretty so I need something to feel good about
How have you been, your post is from 5 months ago.
U good bro?
@@Freedom-fx7jm thanks man yea totally good ,I heard just walking is good ur the back so I found out ,I like walking, started jumping some rope ,kinda a basic bounce and am adding push ups and burpees
But yea so far so good,thanks ,I’m learning,but yea it took like 2.5 to 3 months, felt like a slug , not good but yea ,I’m good
@@doug2993 good but no weight any more or yet s,just calisthenics
@@fleadoggreen9062 that works, glad to hear it’s pretty much good.👍
Love the norwegian sweather.
Do you ever work with golfers, love your videos
Jesus this made so much sense
great info- thank you!!!
Excellent. JESleeth Optimal Physiotherapy Canada
Can the golfer's lift be used as an exercise on it's own
Yes, but I'd try to keep it slow and controlled. Make sure your form is good
what would you adjust for someone with a hip replacement instead of a knee? is there a video for this?
Muchas gracias Gracias gracias
New challenge: technic to lift up an E-roller on one wheel to turn it round and put it to another place. That heavy unmovable thing...
I have just crossed over the tip point and hurt my lower trap i presume...
Looks like a Normal Deadlift
It absolutely is mate :)
True, but I think that is the point. A good deadlift technique is a good general lifting technique. Too many people don't use good technique !
But would you use a golfer's lift for a heavy object like a kettle bell?
Training yes, but that kettle bell is a puny guy. Brian carrol for example, used the golfers lift to carry 30kg of fuel while at Stu’s house.
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Who is in pain and whom was Deadpool?
Good.10q.docter.
“Overthink” lifting 😳
Whose damn phone is ringing
What an absolute load of shit, you serious mate!? 😂
she is cute
With all respect Professor, but did you realize that you actually flexed in your back at 1:00, when you had to move the bag?
Deadlifts are great, but most of us don't really deadlift much outside the gym. We bend over with a round back and pick things up, in the manner that its natural to us. Most human being lift up objects as if they were doing a "jefferson curl", not a "deadlift". So how about making people do more "jefferson curls" so that people become stronger in something they actually use in everyday life situations?
People are afraid to lift and move stuff because of their form not being perfect. Meanwhile for most of the western population the pain and injuries are caused by lack of movement and weakened muscles, not by overtraining and overstressing the body. Even though people like McGill have a positive purpose they are misleading people in the wrong direction.
Because you can't make "strong" discs or "train" them to last. You can strengthen the supporting muscles around them but there are plenty of strong backs who's discs have failed. McGill's research suggests (this is a VERY dumbed down example) that spinal flexion is like a bank account, regardless of how good the security at the bank. Every time you flex, you take money out of the bank. On a long enough timeline, many will run out of money. Each spine is different and not all loaded flexion is built equally so results will vary but the research results stay the same. Though I do agree that healthy backs would be wise to exercise healthy flexion movements.
@@alisoncraig597 I see what you mean and I definitely agree about strengthening the muscles that support the spine. That is exactly why I think you should strengthen the spinal extensors as well as all the core muscles and etc. By bending in your back and extending it again.
Trying to keep ones back extended to avoid injury is first off impossible because we are most likely to instinctively bend our back when we are not aware of it and second if we how ever manage to keep the lumbar stable at all time, wouldn’t that consequently cause stiffness, lack of strength and lack of mobility?
I am not trying to act as if I know it all - I am not even a physiotherapist. I’m just curious! 😅
You need to hit up oh and s people to tell people to teach how to hinge in the workplace. Stu’s job is to educate health professionals. How many companies you know or have work for teaches you how to hinge when lifting a box or an object on the ground? Also most people do not use mindfulness when they do things. Before you even start with deadlift or hinge get people to be self aware or mindful of how they breathe.
McGill goes into this in detail elsewhere. There are numerous studies showing a correlation between round back lifting mechanics and back injuries in various jobs where medium weight is lifted. A flexed spine is fine for some bending and moving but it is pretty clear in the literature that repetitive loaded flexion is a bad idea.
@@RohannvanRensburg I have to agree with the fact that there must have been a correlation between these factors. But I am just curious why are we in such a hurry to conclude that the “correlated factors” are indeed the “causation”.
In fact you can look up many sports such as jiu-jitsu or wrestling where people lift each other up with flexed spine and move in “weird” positions. You can look up the strong man who lift atlas stones.
My suggestion is that there must be other factors that we are taking to consider.
The problem I have with McGill is that he is extremely condescending -- be this in-person as shown here or in interviews. Yes, we all know you are THE expert and nobody knows what you know! Yawn! A more humble approach would actually make you a nicer person!
People over fifty don't change without trauma.
@@ShoNuff3K That's interesting, but is this true?
Lol what are you on about.
What are. You talking about? Dr. McGill is extremely humble. He only brings up athletes he rehabs If he is asked about it. His contribution to understanding the spine has saved MANY athletes backs and has allowed me to finally get enough pain free capacity to start lifting again.