this is the best lazer engraver test I saw so far. Thank you for test and showing everything. Finally I saw PETG and PLA engravings and too bad that's not working.
I believe, the g-sensor does not analyse the absolute value of tilting but the relative tilting compared to the start of the job. So it will stop only, if the tilting changes during the job.
Thanks for thinking about and doing the vertical test. I have some personal projects and always wanted to know if the unit could do a vertical engraving. I have some items that are too big to fit under the engraver but could done if the unit can work vertically. Maybe Ortur will revise their design in the future to allow vertical engraving. It will open up a lot of new opportunities.
Thank you for a very helpful video - I've been thinking about buying one of these. By the way, you should try painting stainless steel with a light coat of zinc primer paint, then engraving, and finally cleaning off the remaining paint with a solvent. It should leave a tough black engraved image where the zinc reacted with the steel.
You might try vertical where the y axis is the vertical one, not the X. As then the origin x0y0 should be at the bottom left, as opposed to the top left. Watching the embeded clip, it looks like when they engraved bread, they did a raster, while you were doing a vector engrave. It wouldn't surprise me if their clip was spead up as well. Also one of the things that may help your engravings is to use a vacuum or blower to move the smoke out of the laser path. This will also help with laser safety, as a big problem for these laser engravers is that the laser reflecting off the smoke gets scattered, but is often still high enough in power to cause problems for retinas. If you vacuum the smoke out, it can be captured in a filter, or evacuated outside. A blower cans leave smoke in the path of the laser at other points from where the blower is functioning. but it may be something you can print a mount for to attach to the laser head and it will move with the laser, and clear the path along the way. Just some observations.
Yes, I noticed in meantime, that somoke may have some effect to strength of cutting or engraving. About rotating engraver, I tried it, but in that case, whole X axis moves when motors are not active. In position shown in video, only module has to stay in place with stepper motors off, and it is much lighter.
@@MyTechFun Yeah, smoke is very likely going to reduce how much laser light gets to the target. What you might consider doing then is effectively rotate x/y axis 90 degrees counter clockwise, so that the bottom left in the orientation you show is the x0y0 position, Unless actual endstops are involved, it could be as simple as swapping the x and y connections at the controller board, and if necessary rotating connectors to get the +/- for each correct. I suspect you may see some overshoot problems on -x moves, but you might be able to correct for them with a counterweight if the belt is available on the far side of the beam. If it's running down the middle of the beam, that would be a bit more difficult. And yeah, adding a counterweight does mean having to move more mass, so might result in needing higher current , but at least the mas should ballance. Again, ideas. Something to experiment with, or not. :-)
To laser stainless stee,l spread mustard on the area to be engraved first. The laser has a chemical reaction when in contact with the mustard and steel and it helps it burn.
Hi, I only want to use the ortur on coloured anodised aluminium I will not need the laser to cut anything only to put text onto the anodised aluminium, speed doesn’t matter so which will be the best quality, the 7 watt, 15 watt or 20 watt. I hope you can reply to this. Thanks.
Great video so much info here. Did you ever end up getting better grayscale results? I was thinking about buying one but after seeing your video I'm leaning towards the neje 3500
Now, after few weeks of additional experience, yes I did, but not much better. I had to reduce the speed and laser strength. Then I could go with smaller dots too. But it depend a lot of your engraver, your settings of focus point..
Thanks for you review. Funny as well as informative. Enjoyed you presentation delivery. Could you do a review on lasergrbl and lightburn software for beginners with no type of software experience? Would definitely subscribe. Thanks.
Hello so u still have the laser? I want to buy such one for business please tell me how can i contact you for a quick discussion. I will pay you. Thanks!
Please be advised gear best is selling them but not shipping i waitted 40 days and never got it. They just kept saying it will ship every week that i asked for a month. Feels like scam scam scam
@@batubay92 You can do it by engraving photo-sensitive PCB material. It's available as both positive resist and negative resist, but of course you would only be engraving the photo resist layer and would have to chemically etch the PCB afterwards.
@@batubay92 I've several times seen people comment that 5W or less is better because they usually are single laser diodes, whereas some 5W and most bigger use multiple LEDs so the spot isn't able to be focussed so precisely. Certainly 2.5W will work reasonably quickly, from what I've seen. I don't have personal experience, though. Also there are some chemical methods that are much less nasty than the two main traditional ones; look around on UA-cam.
I have seen other reviews for it and I understand you are not the right person to make these types of reviews for these types of machines...because on other reviews they had much more success with the machine because they had more knowledge with these kinds of machines so they adjusted laser speed burning rates and all that to have success with all there things they were trying to engrave and you did not do any adjusting or anything just did the settings suggested and if it worked it worked if not it did not and you moved on so I cant really Judge you on it for not knowing anything about laser engraving and not actually trying harder to make it work....but any who....thanks for trying.
Enjoyed the review, best i have seen. I would like to have more information on how to domore things (with details) THANKS AGAIN
this is the best lazer engraver test I saw so far. Thank you for test and showing everything. Finally I saw PETG and PLA engravings and too bad that's not working.
I believe, the g-sensor does not analyse the absolute value of tilting but the relative tilting compared to the start of the job. So it will stop only, if the tilting changes during the job.
Thanks for thinking about and doing the vertical test. I have some personal projects and always wanted to know if the unit could do a vertical engraving. I have some items that are too big to fit under the engraver but could done if the unit can work vertically. Maybe Ortur will revise their design in the future to allow vertical engraving. It will open up a lot of new opportunities.
Thank you for your information, very well put together video.
Tkjm
the correct height from laser frame (towards the lens ) to the bench is 55mm
Thank you for a very helpful video - I've been thinking about buying one of these. By the way, you should try painting stainless steel with a light coat of zinc primer paint, then engraving, and finally cleaning off the remaining paint with a solvent. It should leave a tough black engraved image where the zinc reacted with the steel.
Wow, useful info, I will try it in near future. Thanks for the tip.
You might try vertical where the y axis is the vertical one, not the X. As then the origin x0y0 should be at the bottom left, as opposed to the top left. Watching the embeded clip, it looks like when they engraved bread, they did a raster, while you were doing a vector engrave. It wouldn't surprise me if their clip was spead up as well.
Also one of the things that may help your engravings is to use a vacuum or blower to move the smoke out of the laser path. This will also help with laser safety, as a big problem for these laser engravers is that the laser reflecting off the smoke gets scattered, but is often still high enough in power to cause problems for retinas. If you vacuum the smoke out, it can be captured in a filter, or evacuated outside. A blower cans leave smoke in the path of the laser at other points from where the blower is functioning. but it may be something you can print a mount for to attach to the laser head and it will move with the laser, and clear the path along the way. Just some observations.
Yes, I noticed in meantime, that somoke may have some effect to strength of cutting or engraving. About rotating engraver, I tried it, but in that case, whole X axis moves when motors are not active. In position shown in video, only module has to stay in place with stepper motors off, and it is much lighter.
@@MyTechFun Yeah, smoke is very likely going to reduce how much laser light gets to the target.
What you might consider doing then is effectively rotate x/y axis 90 degrees counter clockwise, so that the bottom left in the orientation you show is the x0y0 position, Unless actual endstops are involved, it could be as simple as swapping the x and y connections at the controller board, and if necessary rotating connectors to get the +/- for each correct. I suspect you may see some overshoot problems on -x moves, but you might be able to correct for them with a counterweight if the belt is available on the far side of the beam. If it's running down the middle of the beam, that would be a bit more difficult. And yeah, adding a counterweight does mean having to move more mass, so might result in needing higher current , but at least the mas should ballance.
Again, ideas. Something to experiment with, or not. :-)
Brilliant video i very much enjoyed it thank you My Tech Fun.
To laser stainless stee,l spread mustard on the area to be engraved first. The laser has a chemical reaction when in contact with the mustard and steel and it helps it burn.
Serious or joke?
@@MyTechFun Serious, the mustard has a reaction on the steel, not sure what grade of steel it works on, but it does work.
Thx, I will try it
Hi, I only want to use the ortur on coloured anodised aluminium I will not need the laser to cut anything only to put text onto the anodised aluminium, speed doesn’t matter so which will be the best quality, the 7 watt, 15 watt or 20 watt. I hope you can reply to this. Thanks.
So far, I didn't try to engrave aluminium. But if I will get some good results, I will document it and upload a video.
@@MyTechFun thank you.
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10:37 Wow, looking at this LaserGRBL screen, it looks exactly like the laser software for my EcubMaker ToyDIY but they call it EcubWare. Very sneaky.
Woah that thing is awesome. been thinking about getting a laser cutter... hmmmm
21:38 Try mustard on your steel.
Tried (I thought it is a joke, but it works), new video today..
Great video so much info here. Did you ever end up getting better grayscale results? I was thinking about buying one but after seeing your video I'm leaning towards the neje 3500
Now, after few weeks of additional experience, yes I did, but not much better. I had to reduce the speed and laser strength. Then I could go with smaller dots too. But it depend a lot of your engraver, your settings of focus point..
15 watt laser can cutt 2 mm mdf ??
The power of the laser is only 4.5W. It can cut 2mm plywood in one pass (with good focus). I didn't tried mdf yet
Thanks for you review. Funny as well as informative. Enjoyed you presentation delivery. Could you do a review on lasergrbl and lightburn software for beginners with no type of software experience? Would definitely subscribe. Thanks.
I want to demonstrate this software too, but not in near future. Maybe in 2-3 months.
Plazma keks iz Srbije, hehe
Da, i vrlo ukusan posle laserskog prženja :-)
I wonder if you could cut normal paper with it and how that compares to the regular paper cutting/stenciling machines.
It can cut normal paper too (need high speed), but mark on edges are visible (black from burning). Not much, but visible.
Társasházkezelés? :D nem gondoltam, hogy magyar a csatorna tulaj :D
Ez volt kéznél, amire már nincs szükségem :-)
tökjó!
Hello so u still have the laser? I want to buy such one for business please tell me how can i contact you for a quick discussion. I will pay you. Thanks!
Viktor, mine is not for sale, but you have the link in description to Gearbest page. Buy a new one, it's not expensive.
Please be advised gear best is selling them but not shipping i waitted 40 days and never got it. They just kept saying it will ship every week that i asked for a month. Feels like scam scam scam
I don't work for Gearbest, but that's very big company, you can contact them and ask for solution.
Wow. Great video. Have you ever try to etch a marker painted pcb?
I tried without success. But I have to try with some stick tape instead marker, that should work.
@@batubay92 You can do it by engraving photo-sensitive PCB material. It's available as both positive resist and negative resist, but of course you would only be engraving the photo resist layer and would have to chemically etch the PCB afterwards.
@@batubay92 I've several times seen people comment that 5W or less is better because they usually are single laser diodes, whereas some 5W and most bigger use multiple LEDs so the spot isn't able to be focussed so precisely. Certainly 2.5W will work reasonably quickly, from what I've seen. I don't have personal experience, though. Also there are some chemical methods that are much less nasty than the two main traditional ones; look around on UA-cam.
@@pnt1035 Oh thank you so much for your valuable information. This info is what I was looking for. I will buy 5000mW laser.
can ortur cut metal plate 1mm?
No
I have seen other reviews for it and I understand you are not the right person to make these types of reviews for these types of machines...because on other reviews they had much more success with the machine because they had more knowledge with these kinds of machines so they adjusted laser speed burning rates and all that to have success with all there things they were trying to engrave and you did not do any adjusting or anything just did the settings suggested and if it worked it worked if not it did not and you moved on so I cant really Judge you on it for not knowing anything about laser engraving and not actually trying harder to make it work....but any who....thanks for trying.
That’s what’s her name from that movie 😁
Princess Padme
My Tech Fun yes, the picture was printed very well. I was just teasing you😁
Can you give me this machine for free?