Engraving METAL with the Ortur Laser Master!
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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My friend's business uses a small 20W CO2 for engraving. The warning sticker on the front reads "DO NOT LOOK INTO LASER WITH REMAINING EYE" and, for convenience, it's also in Braille.
Maker's Muse posted 2 videos about these kind of laser cutters/engravers not that long ago.
He talked about what you need to look out for when engraving different matterials and also some concerns about the safety of them.
I would highly recommend you watch them to be on the save side.
And Nate did a great job building an enclosure for it.
meh youtube deleted my old comment,
comgrow make enclosures that you can buy (mainly for their own cutters / engravers, but imo as long as it's bigger than the frame of your machine, it should fit)
Yeah such a great job on the enclosure, large gaps for the laser to escape.
@@conorstewart2214 It overlaps. There's no way it escapes, because it's light, not a liquid. Those gaps are for venting out the smoke.
@@marcus_w0 it absolutely can escape. Light can go at an angle you know, especially with reflections.
You are correct, bamboo just always does that. Even with a CO2 laser, that's the results. Also, a CO2 wavelength keeps it from marking bare metal. The best thing to use for metal is a fiber laser. Another way to clean the soot off of wood is with denatured alcohol. If it's a large piece, sometimes, we clean it first then hit is with a little sanding. Look into photos. A diode laser is slow, but it gives extrememly good results with photo engraving!
I used to spray stainless with a thin coating of dry molybdenum lube spray and then engrave with a 40W CO2 laser. The laser would bond the spray to the steel and give the look of engraved steel.
@@oliverwjones Yes! We have a marking spray that we use sometimes like that! We made a video about marking/engraving on metal! :)
@@oliverwjones The sprays made for laser engraving do a better job than moly I did a test piece of aluminum that I mask and use both products on the same letting, moly has a dark gray color and is almost smooth, the specific spray was black and you can feel it with your finger nail, our classroom machine is a Boss LS 1630 60 watt new this year, I'm the machine tool TA for the CAD/CAM Program so I have been working on a speeds and feeds materials spreadsheet
@@jimeash7041 And the laser marking sprays are about $80/can vs $10 for dry moly...
In our experience (with co2 laser engraver ) they emphasize using a ventilation system because the laser creates particles that are so fine they are inhalable . we deal with plastic so I am not sure if that makes a difference, but I suggest finishing your exhaust system sooner rather than later. Great video!
My job laser engraves labels onto plastic. We have the enclosure hooked up to central vac. Because of the fine particles.
building an enclosure is always a smart first step with these open gantry machines. I agree with other commenters that it's probably a good idea to get a better set of goggles certified for the wavelength.
Interesting to see how well it did on the stainless without surface coatings.
Ya I was too! No cearmark or anything!
My thought is... WHY no coating?
Finally! someone who addresses the glaring safety issues of these lasers. I'd have gotten one already except for my fear of having a 5W+ laser sitting around my house.
An enclosure is so easy
I bet you are afraid of your own shadow as well...
Electrical tape is made of PVC, when you ablate PVC with a laser, it will create chlorine gas, so electrical tape isn't the best option. I highly doubt that little amount is anything to worry about, but just a comment for the future :-)
Nate - spend some money on some goggles certified to block the wavelength that laser diode emits. Your vision is worth more than some cheap amber goggles.
"I got a new tool. The first thing I'm going to do is build a box/enclosure for it." -Pretty much every maker
Great video.
finally a video with a 10w diode laser actually trying some metal. Wish I could find painted tin etching. I want to laser our logo onto the lids of some candle tins
glad to see everyone here referencing makers muse's video
Nate got me wanting something I never would have thought I wanted 😆
Nate, just an idea... I've seen your passion for knife making and if you had a knife making business I'd buy one from you and I'm sure you could make a ton of money doing something you love.
He does have a website where he sells them. Look up Haukr Knives
@@malonecustomdesigns OH awesome! Ty
@@F_L_U_X You're welcome. You can find a link in the description of some of his knife videos...I just don't want to post the link....links usually gets blocked from comments.
I love lasers but I also don't wanna loose my eyesight. Those laser goggles don't look very convincing, I would side with StyroPyro and suggest getting laser glasses from a reputable brand specifically for the wavelength of your laser. Remember kids: safety first and never skimp on PPE
I friggin love that you're building again
Instead of making a Masonite blank, and tracing your metal off of that, now, you can make your blank, check its feel, and then put the metal in and run the exact same pattern, and you've already got your trace.
Love the Ortur products but for knife engraving you should definitely go the Fiber laser route. Way faster and basically it is made for it.
Maybe a silly question, but couldn't you etch an outline of your knife design on a block of metal?
He could, but if he is going to do 5 or more of the same blade shape, it would be faster to trace from his template. Also, the cutout he did is great for prototyping to see if he likes the feel of the shape.
@@sunburstworx True. I wasn't thinking about Nate making multiples of the same design.
Cool capability. I would try using technique of burning not only the logo but the actual knife template straight to the steel. Clear permanent precise lines? The wood template good for test/fine tuning the shape but...Put the template straight to the metal instead of wood template traced to metal?
Sure....although he can't cut it out with the diode laser, he could us the diode to basically score a cutting guide into the metal.
How is this going to change how you do the iron man suit?
Is that amber acrylic designed to block certain frequencies of light or is it just amber?
That seems like a lot less cost than I thought it would be. $800 for the higher end model.
Awesome! Another thing my wife will tell me no to.
Noted, never get married 😆😂
Laser company: This thing has two layers of protection!
Nate: Have you met me? I'm gunna build a whole nother layer.
You're amazingly capable and terrifyingly clumsy. A fun combination from a safe distance!
Is this on Amazon. If not. Please let the company know to bring it on amazon
That's bad ass.
why wood and not metal for the panels?
I would love to see if this laser engraver/cutter could cut and leave an image in leather??
It will engage leather, I was in a engineering design class they have these laser engraving machine, on the first day the teacher did a test run to show how it’s works and ask if anyone wants to engrave there’s phone, I ask if it could engraved leather wallet and it does.
You literally vaporise the material and you can adjust the spacing and angle of attack to get a prismatic effect.
You’re not supposed to use manufactured woods with laser cutters. The glues are made of chemicals like formaldehyde that get vaporized into the air.
I know this is an old video but I was wondering what Stainless you used and was it hardened and tempered? Thanks
You should try making a hammer
Does it or can it work with a mobile app. Take pictures photos and send it directly to the machine. Instead of being behind a computer. Editoring. Just doing my work while pooping instead of stoping on the pc software to use the bathroom.
Like the laserpecker app. Does it have a app for this. Mobile editing engraving is best. U don't be stuck in one spot whole day. Move around your house. Set up machine and be u. If any problems with machine. It will show up on your phone. U can head back to fix it. Thats what I would like
I know you did the stainless. What about a blade of 1095 or O1 tool steel? Try the annealed and one after being heat-treated. Those are the alloys that most of the knife makers i know use and have some difficulty marking. I know a true (deep) etch will require a fiber laser. Just curious as to what affect it will have on these materials.
I can to engraving in Silver or gold with this láser, thanks You.
Question, it works on wood, plastic, I am assuming metal but does it work on glass? And what is the depth?
Yes, it does work on glass. Not sure about the depth.
i struggled getting anything like that, im using 24w diode and done your settings as different settings and nothing as like that
I would love to know if it could cut through half inch cardboard and do an awesome design in the cardboard?
Yes it will. You would want to have it raised so the laser can escape at the bottom. Its best to run a test for speed and power to avoid setting it on fire.
Hello, we bought "ortur master 3", we completed the installation, but when we start the machine, the yellow light flashes and gives a signal. The computer does not recognize what should we do?
I'm looking for a laser engraver to engrave 24inch X 24inch stainless steel. What do you recommend?
I would like to see testing with cutting through various thicknesses of materials. What is realistic.
How does this one comparison to the Genmitsu Jinsoku LC-40 Laser Engraver you reviewed not too long ago
Cool laser, but does it also blacken chicken?
How come you didn't make the whole box out of the acrylic so you could see through the whole box besides the frame?
Cost probably had a factor in that. The acrylic is much more expensive than the dry erase board. Alslo, other enclosed machines normally only have a "viewing window" in the top.
@@malonecustomdesigns probably costs yeah, but I would have done the cover at least for full view of the print surface and also not leaving gaps on the sides.
@@Igmus I agree, I would have made some design changes myself :)
Stick some blue painters tape on wood surface before engraving.
How about heat and smock it not be a problem with this box you made ?
Any chance your on line ? I'm trying to engrave tumbler with ortur and I've gone through 8 cups. Ant chance I can ask u some questions?
How many passes did you set for the "Dog Tags"?
Maybe 3?
You have got to try cutting fruit with that...
That is not engraving. That is marking a steel. Engraving does involve depth cutting, at least >17 microns. Has the manufacturer tested depth it can cut in few materials, wood, polymers and metals?
also when you come to it please purify the air that's blown away, and having smoke and possibly toxic gases in the air is not fun.
and like what Azrael said watch the videos by maker's muse, but good job for making an enclosure!
Hey man cool video. I’m a blade maker my self , I have a bunch of knives of finished with handles, how will this laser go putting a logo on a finished knife? Meaning the blade will no longer lay flat… will I need to prop the knife up to make it level some how or will it work out its own level… or etch it anyway?
It is best to prop it up and make it level so you can set the distance of the laser.
Hey nice vid. I was ordering a muffler and they were going to laser engrave it for me with my logo. I was wanting a more bronze look instead of very black like what yours did. Is this dependent on the source material I provide or the machine and the way they do it? Was wondering if I need to provide them a brown color logo vs my standard black one or does it matter?
Nice
I'm not going to be the billionth person to say it, but I won't be the last: Breathing in the stuff that the laser makes is really bad.
0:20 When in doubt...use a couple pencils.
As a former Metal smith could you cut out 1cm of tin or silver.
1 cm thick? I doubt it, that's probably way too much for this machine.
Nice, but Grace would lay over the table and show off her new clothes!
Let's say I wanted to etch my name on my wrenches, is this laser capable of that? If it is, I'm really struggling with not getting one.
Should work great as far as I can tell!
So attractive..
Why didn't you just put the ambercritic all the way around so you can see exactly how it's going inside "Make it look like a greenhouse"
Just from laser security - no housing that blocks all laser light on a class 4 is NoNo and it has to cut all power to the laser when open or it is ultra-NoNo. Windows with some unrated cover are not a great idea either. The surface should be white and coarser in surface then the wave length to reduce reflections. Black surface are dangerous as the open the iris. Real laser safety glasses are rated not just to wave length but power output for given time period, once past this time trash hold they also pass laser rays thru! You talked about adding fume extraction to your housing, but it is miss later in the video - with metal vapors and smoke from wood lamination. This product is NOT SAFE, nor is this application of it.
I can verify that it does not feel good to get hit with a co2 laser beam on the finger.
can you do some original King of random style vids (not TKOR $#!+)
You havent even cut anything and I already hate it. No one should ever use a product where safety was an after thought.
Well I agree with the sentiment, but literally every consumer laser engraver cutter being sold right now is the same way.
@@TravisFabel no there are consumer level engravers with a full enclosure.
I bought one with an enclosure
@@TomsBackyardWorkshop And LEV I hope
Life is unsafe you can’t be stopped because you are to afraid sometimes you need to do stuff yourself if you want it more safe
🤨 You are NOT going to be engraving metals with a Diode Laser. You MIGHT be able to create mild surface marks on some metals, but definitely no engraving or deeper permanent marks. You need a Fiber Laser for that. And seriously, if you think a Diode Laser is "fast", go check out Fiber Lasers lol
Leaving those gaps between the lid and the window is pretty lazy, if you are going to put the window in then make sure that the laser still can’t escape. If you look at it from the wrong angle the laser can still come out, you made a safety device but then left gaps. It is also an easy fix with just a few strips of wood, so it is pretty lazy that you didn’t do it. You also maybe could have mounted the window on the underside of the lid where the wooden boards are already.
This is NOT Engraving metal. A Diode laser cannot engrave, which is cutting or removing. This is marking or printing onto the metal. Please do not share misinformation.
engrave a banana
For another, in-depth perspective on this type of machine, I recommend the video from Maker’s Muse: ua-cam.com/video/-9hIXT8DMUU/v-deo.html
Short summary: If it doesn’t have an enclosure with proper venting and shielding, you’re going to be breathing fumes from whatever you’re cutting (probably a health hazard), and could incur eye damage from a laser reflection or even set the room on fire.
Nice
Thank you for highlighting the safety aspects too many creators gloss over or ignore safety precautions especially with lasers and resin
Nice video Nate. If you like lasers, you might enjoy a few of our videos! :)
i think co2 lasers cant cut metal because its infrared light, and metal is pretty damn good at reflecting that. thinking about a rescue blanket here, that stuff gets vapor deposited metal on it wich is ridiculously thin, yet perfectly able to reflect most of the IR radiation from a person
Try a fake Damascus pattern on a blank...
Laser some lunch meat lol. Just as a quick sanitized look into what would happen if a hand went in, kinda like waterjet channel did with hotdogs
Can it fake a Damascus pattern? How does it do cutting clear acrylic, or other clear plastic?
How does it do with aluminum? Maybe in a future video? Thank you.
And we had better success cutting thin oak the plywood
Amazing I love it. 😎👍
Do my Umbrella Corp. Logo next, please. 🙏
Love watching you testing this out! Can't wait to see what you make with!
A possible upgrade to the enclosure would be an interior switch that kills the laser if the lid is open (more for safety of others who might see or be around and don't know all about it)
Not sure if the new laser has a way of adding that, but could probably add an input to computer running lightburn, or just make it kill power to the laser. Idk, if you decide to add one, I'm sure you'll come up with something even more clever than above.
Is that amber acrylic designed to block certain frequencies of light or is it just amber?
custom leather knife sheeths
That looks freaking awesome Nate, great laser, need a chain on the lid of the box to hold for you 👍🏼👍🏼🇦🇺🇦🇺🦘🦘Cheers from Melbourne Australia
Hope the money was nice.
*In our next video, StyroPyro stops by to upgrade our laser engraver with a diode that's 100 times more powerful.*
Angus at @makersmuse would be proud of your safety precautions!
Congrats on the new toy! I just got the xTool D1 (almost the same machine, functionally), and I've been using it to make leather armor!
Super awesome!
Can you use this to make a faux Damascus knife?
Dont use lazer engravers without
A) very good ventilation
B) the proper lazer saftey eyewear
(no, the cheap pairs sent with most lazers are _not_ good enough)
Do you think that laser could do a makers mark. ( if you had the patience to do something like that.)
Total newbie here so pardon my lack of knowledge. You mentioned cutting having a different setting than engraving …please elaborate as to what the settings are for the two. Our first attempt to engrave on some wood was awful as it was just staying in the same area and burning to a crisp lol. Was about 2000 mm and 50% power . Thanks!
Remember to wear a respirator when using it. Ya don't want the vaporized material getting into your lungs.
Sorry mate, but you never quit yapping, and you never actually showed anything in the video. Oh this is my new laser engraver, but Instead of showing you it, I am going to build a box around it. -.-
If I sent you a design that I have been told cannot be cut and like to see how that would cut it out in the metal does it do metal as far as cutting out is concerned. What’s the depth?
Does the software come with the laser? I'm new to this. Thanks!!
Can do direct to metal designs instead of cutting out a template nice
Pretty messed up to tell people they can "engrave metal" with a diode laser when you're very clearly promoting a product. You're able to make small not-very-durable marks at very slow speed by blasting tons of heat into the metal running at max power. So it might work OKAY-ish for this application- a very small mark on thick metal- but you're going to have serious likelihood of warping your project with larger marks on thinner/smaller metal.
Basically while this might be accurate- which I don't even really believe with some of the video cuts and general dishonesty of the video- at the very least you're going to convince people to buy an expensive brick that can't do what they want it to do.
I know because I bought a 20w diode laser thinking I'd engrave/mark metal and it was an epic failure even using the expensive sprays. I got a used fiber laser for $1100 and can actually do this and a lot more with metal.
Well now I just have to bite the bullet and order one of these, I've been hand engraving/etching my co workers and my own butcher knives over at work for like 15 years now. Want something to have higher detail as the intricate things I do are getting to be VERY annoying..... Thank you for the review.
lmao can see in the reflection of the 'amber plastic' that you're not wearing the safety goggles half the time while its running.