FORBES Top Metal Bands List is actually GOOD?!

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  • Опубліковано 27 лис 2024

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  • @NikNocturnal
    @NikNocturnal  Місяць тому +108

    What's your top Metal bands? Comment below to make sure everyone fights with eachother.
    Also, pickup the new limited Halloween "COREKID" merch here: corekid.ca/

    • @ianmcpeck424
      @ianmcpeck424 Місяць тому +9

      Opeth, Mastodon, and Gojira. Opeth #1, Mastodon and Gojira flip from day to day. Too many great bands to give a definitive top 10, let alone top 5.
      To add: favorite metalcore/adjacent bands include Howard Jones era KSE (duh), Spiritbox, and Jinjer

    • @Soniteq
      @Soniteq Місяць тому +1

      Korn, Slipknot, Tool, Deftones, Otep. I'm a millennial sellout. I can't stop editing. Too many good bands to name.

    • @ArkaeaFCL3
      @ArkaeaFCL3 Місяць тому +5

      Gojira, slipknot, behemoth, Killswitch engage, Lamb of god, Otep, Tool, Cattle decapitation, Suicide silence, Whitechapel, Soulfly, Pantera, Tryptikon, and spiritbox.

    • @TheMadMedek
      @TheMadMedek Місяць тому

      Metallica and pantera were my start in metal, but Slipknot came out 99 my freshman year of high school. What a time. I hardly skip a song when the shuffle hits

    • @ianmcpeck424
      @ianmcpeck424 Місяць тому +3

      @@ArkaeaFCL3 Wasn't expecting a Tryptikon mention in the comments of a Nik vid. Great taste all the way down

  • @Hun7er_TV
    @Hun7er_TV Місяць тому +1606

    Forbes more metal than loud wire is crazy

    • @JediShoalinVigilante
      @JediShoalinVigilante Місяць тому +64

      Loudwire is horrible

    • @pigsfood27
      @pigsfood27 Місяць тому +22

      Not that crazy, Loudwire blows

    • @digitalmortality2001
      @digitalmortality2001 Місяць тому +34

      im so happy people are starting to realize how full of shit loudwire really is

    • @erickrodrigo40
      @erickrodrigo40 Місяць тому +4

      great profile pic....you like metal and berserk...i respect your taste

    • @nietzscheente1271
      @nietzscheente1271 Місяць тому +6

      Better than 'Rolling Stones' magazine too.

  • @earthscorcher
    @earthscorcher Місяць тому +1549

    We need Quentin to make the Spotify playlists.

    • @RobSTFreak
      @RobSTFreak Місяць тому +19

      I just clicked on comments to post what you just said!!!!
      Quentin to make Spotify playlists!!!!

    • @dropthehammer1360
      @dropthehammer1360 Місяць тому +5

      Wouldn’t it serve you better to make your own?

    • @earthscorcher
      @earthscorcher Місяць тому +14

      @@dropthehammer1360 wouldn't it serve you better to mind your own business? :)

    • @dropthehammer1360
      @dropthehammer1360 Місяць тому +3

      @@earthscorcher my comment wasn’t meant to rile you up. If you like all the bands on that list, then surely you would enjoy his playlist.

    • @samgiron9368
      @samgiron9368 Місяць тому

      Yes!

  • @TheMadMedek
    @TheMadMedek Місяць тому +1190

    What a chad writer. Forbes actually hired someone who knew what they are writing about. No click bait just for interaction numbers

    • @rafadolny3551
      @rafadolny3551 Місяць тому +22

      That's a real journalism

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste Місяць тому +18

      They usually do for most things.. really everything that I've read on there, so far. They post good gaming news from independent journalists that actually know what they're talking about, so it seems like they do that for everything.

    • @7ChaosBlack
      @7ChaosBlack Місяць тому +1

      They didn't.
      Soyjira, Plagiarised Sevenfold, Converge and nu-metal shouldn't be on there.
      Napalm Death is so debatable as they're more known for their grindcore than the death metal/deathgrind stuff they did from like Harmony Corruption onwards.

    • @raifparker3990
      @raifparker3990 Місяць тому +13

      ​@@7ChaosBlackCry harder bud

    • @raifparker3990
      @raifparker3990 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@7ChaosBlack It is obvious you did not hire someone to write your jokes, either huh

  • @Cakebong
    @Cakebong Місяць тому +525

    interview with Quentin when?

    • @wabbit_07
      @wabbit_07 Місяць тому +8

      YEEEESSSS WE NEED THIS

    • @MatthewA5393
      @MatthewA5393 Місяць тому +3

      pls

    • @FELTSZ
      @FELTSZ Місяць тому

      Please interview with legendary Mikael Åkerfeldt from Opeth. Why he hates modern metal

    • @thetej1098
      @thetej1098 Місяць тому +1

      YES

    • @thetej1098
      @thetej1098 Місяць тому

      @@FELTSZ no

  • @albertovaldivia6132
    @albertovaldivia6132 Місяць тому +425

    Spotify has been real quiet after this video uploaded

  • @wolokowoh0
    @wolokowoh0 Місяць тому +61

    "Quentin Singer is a music journalist who covers news, reviews and interviews pertaining to rock & heavy music. He's covered new and groundbreaking artists in the metal and hardcore scenes, including Knocked Loose, Gatecreeper, and Power Trip, and has interviewed rock icons such as Heart's Nancy Wilson, Megadeth's Dave Mustaine, and Slipknot's Shawn Crahan. Graduating from Berklee College of Music with a focus in guitar and a major in audio mixing/engineering, Singer operates as a session guitarist, guitar teacher and audio engineer alongside being a music journalist. Follow Singer for news and interviews of the biggest names in rock and metal, and for reviews of the latest rock and heavy music releases. "
    Well I'd say maybe more than an interview. Maybe a collab.

  • @elnombre91
    @elnombre91 Місяць тому +215

    You love to see Converge/Jane Doe getting props in a mainstream media article. Big up Quentin.

    • @sonictemple2925
      @sonictemple2925 Місяць тому +4

      I’m so glad to see friends get the props they deserve. Legendary band and great humans.

    • @goldenpie6
      @goldenpie6 Місяць тому +5

      First wave metalcore underrated as hell

    • @elnombre91
      @elnombre91 Місяць тому +4

      @@sonictemple2925 I met Jacob years ago. He was super nice, while I fanboyed and got tongue-tied. Classic.

    • @sonictemple2925
      @sonictemple2925 Місяць тому +1

      @@elnombre91 he is great. Kurt and Nate have helped my band so much over the years. I can talk gear with them for hours. It makes me happy when good people get the recognition they deserve.

    • @FELTSZ
      @FELTSZ Місяць тому

      Converge love Iron Maiden

  • @thomasmatijas2775
    @thomasmatijas2775 Місяць тому +96

    For real, you should reach out to Quentin for an interview and talk about metal in journalism/mainstream media or lack there of!

  • @igorpodemski9596
    @igorpodemski9596 Місяць тому +314

    This is genuinely the greatest list i've seen in an article about metal. The diversity, knowledge about the OG's, no bullshit modern picks. Respect to Forbes. They did their research.

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste Місяць тому +8

      They use freelance journalists that do their research

    • @MetalPersonJ
      @MetalPersonJ Місяць тому +4

      plenty of bullshit modern picks. System, Slipknot, Korn, horrible horrible list.

    • @cmorales2831
      @cmorales2831 Місяць тому +64

      @@MetalPersonJthe old fart crying early 90s isn’t old enough. These bands are passed or pushing 30 get over it

    • @patch5217
      @patch5217 Місяць тому +20

      @@MetalPersonJ what a bullshit take. All three of those bands are one hundred percent metal OGs...

    • @igorpodemski9596
      @igorpodemski9596 Місяць тому +3

      @@MetalPersonJ The youngest band on this list is Avenged if im not mistaken. And i wouldn't qualify them as modern metal. Especially not the new stuff.

  • @NewMozart
    @NewMozart Місяць тому +159

    Nik not knowing Kyuss really surprised me. It's where Josh Homme got started. Their fuzzed out sound and usage of bass amps for guitar is an absolute staple of metal/rock today and was groundbreaking in the early/mid 90s.

    • @cerealflute6705
      @cerealflute6705 Місяць тому +9

      Kyuss is formative to my metal exploration early in the 90s

    • @Les_Grossman80
      @Les_Grossman80 Місяць тому +16

      Dude. Nik is young. I'm 44 I was listening to Kyuss when I was 14. Plus, not many people go looking for desert / stoner rock these days.

    • @Carnifex20
      @Carnifex20 Місяць тому +1

      Same. I feel like he should give them a listen just because of this list. Big Bike for maximum lmao.

    • @chris_2714
      @chris_2714 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@Les_Grossman80agreed. Even for us old timers, Kyuss wasn't really on the radar until you delved a lot deeper into metal.

    • @Les_Grossman80
      @Les_Grossman80 Місяць тому +7

      @@chris_2714 we had a program in Australia called rage that used to have guest programmers. Henry Rollins was on one night and picked Green Machine. I was hooked from that very moment. Sky Valley is still one of my most loved albums to this day.

  • @WeWokeTheGiants
    @WeWokeTheGiants Місяць тому +381

    Everyone knows that us financial guys like metal.

    • @Werewolf914
      @Werewolf914 Місяць тому +41

      I'd imagine Financial people are into Mathcore and Prog Metal

    • @liamcaswell2118
      @liamcaswell2118 Місяць тому +9

      Can confirm, throwing down to Knocked Loose to forget my marketing paper

    • @SteveCastaneda93
      @SteveCastaneda93 Місяць тому +3

      Oh, I definitely listen to some Metal when working on journal entries and spreadsheets for my accounting job.

    • @ThatHurt3d
      @ThatHurt3d Місяць тому +7

      It balances the chaos of accounting to make a perfectly tranquil state of mind

    • @Rob-gx7rx
      @Rob-gx7rx Місяць тому +1

      yea i saw that wolf of wall street/meshuggah outtake and i get it now

  • @mosthatedminnesotan
    @mosthatedminnesotan Місяць тому +83

    This list is actually REALLY well done! In terms of impact, they have the bands in a great order. Obviously you can argue a few spots here and there, but overall, incredibly thoughtful list. I'm very impressed by Forbes!

    • @AnneAslaug
      @AnneAslaug Місяць тому +2

      Wrong: Lack of Deep Purple, lack of accuracy.

    • @Kirb_Zilla
      @Kirb_Zilla Місяць тому

      Cattle Decap should be on the list

    • @AgeofJP
      @AgeofJP Місяць тому +3

      you can't have one person being an expert in and unbiasedly ranking EVERY subgenre and EVERY band...for example I summized that Quentin isn't really that into Melodic Deathmetal, he gave At The Gates probably a courtesy rank but while they're the pioneers of that genre, In Flames was the band that easily and by far exceeded the most in (and from) that genre while one country over Children Of Bodom birthed a counter genre to the swedish scene (that's very different but also most commonly called "Melodic Deathmetal") and they also became much more influential and famous than more than a few other bands in the ranking.
      Both imo should be somewhere between the 25-35 rank here, probably around rank 35-50 if we included every other band aswell...like Sabaton, Helloween, Linkin Park just from the top of my head (which makes me realize Power Metal might've gotten shafted even worse than melodeath).
      But I don't fault Quentin for that, he obviously enjoys other genres more and he still showed some respect and awareness to A LOT...even if I disagree with some of it, I respect a true metalhead's opinion and Quentin has more than proven himself to be that, an honest to satan metalhead \m/

    • @AnneAslaug
      @AnneAslaug Місяць тому +1

      @@AgeofJP As a jouranlist in a magazine covering a specific area of topics, his personal tastes should be placed on the backburner and he should try to focus on the historcally most important bands from the given criteria he has set for the list. But from the profile description, it looks like this is a side gig, actual music is his main occupation. So I guess we can't expect him to go dig up analog music libraries from around the world to create The Imacculate list...

    • @CGGS_0
      @CGGS_0 Місяць тому

      @@AnneAslaugWhy do you want Smoke on the Water to be on the list so badly? Lmfao.

  • @thomasgriffin767
    @thomasgriffin767 Місяць тому +48

    You neeeeed to ask Singer to come onto your channel for a video, a hang out or something like wow

  • @michaelmartinez7158
    @michaelmartinez7158 Місяць тому +29

    It’s either Type O or Paradise Lost for Gothic Metal. But they definitely deserve to be talked about on a list like this.. very happy to see them there

    • @fuowl666
      @fuowl666 Місяць тому +2

      Paradise Lost invented Gothic Metal.

    • @gnomueaux
      @gnomueaux Місяць тому

      @@fuowl666 arguably Celtic Frost did, Paradise Lost is the definitive band of the gothic metal genre though

    • @viktortunic
      @viktortunic Місяць тому

      I'd say both deserve to be there.

  • @vincentfalcone9218
    @vincentfalcone9218 Місяць тому +71

    Pretty solid list. No Opeth, Emperor or Devin Townsend though.

    • @mariocastillo8334
      @mariocastillo8334 Місяць тому +32

      Definitely agree regarding Opeth, had they not done anything except for Blackwater Park, they would have to be included in metal history forever, and they've done so much more!

    • @ericforsyth
      @ericforsyth Місяць тому +7

      Still Life is the perfect metal album

    • @NefariousHourOfMusic
      @NefariousHourOfMusic Місяць тому +3

      I agree, at least switch out Behemoth for Emperor.

    • @OneSecondOne
      @OneSecondOne Місяць тому +2

      And this list is very US-centered…. And when it comes to Gothic Metal, Paradise Lost has to be there.

    • @jbk007311
      @jbk007311 Місяць тому +1

      ​@NefariousHourOfMusic
      Yep...Emperor is better than all these bands

  • @ImFrantic
    @ImFrantic Місяць тому +53

    Bro, Quentin's second name is "Thane". Like he's already goated in The Elder Scrolls.

  • @darkphoenix2
    @darkphoenix2 Місяць тому +53

    I didn't expect many of my favorite bands on this list, but I was really hoping for Opeth to get some respect

    • @theonlylolking
      @theonlylolking Місяць тому +8

      Opeth transcends mere Metal. You must have a very high IQ to understand Opeth. The music theory is incredibly complex and unless you have a solid understanding of chord progressions, an Opeth song will go over the typical metalhead's head.

    • @squeezy8414
      @squeezy8414 Місяць тому +16

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@theonlylolkingOpeth’s my favourite band but you are literally the worst kind of fan, you don’t have to understand anything to like them and people have very valid reasons to not like their stuff, quit being so pretentious.
      It’s not like they’re some super underrated underground band either, Mikael literally made metal headlines just by growling again and they consistently headline festivals and sell out tours, not sure what you’re getting at here by them going over the “typical metalhead’s” head.

    • @Caleb-hl9qo
      @Caleb-hl9qo Місяць тому +15

      ​​​@@squeezy8414 I am pretty sure that person was joking because their comment is similar to the you have to have a very high IQ to understand rick and morty copypasta

    • @Draggo.
      @Draggo. Місяць тому

      @@theonlylolking I know this is a joke, but they're genuinely some of the most entry level death metal I've ever heard. Nothing about what they do is special, and pretty much every band before and after that blended metal with non-metal blows them out of the water.

    • @FELTSZ
      @FELTSZ Місяць тому

      ​@@theonlylolking Opeth have always just ripped off 70's and 60's rock and jazz bands and added some cookie monster vocals with a Swedish herring flavor. That's not enough to be considered a genius musician.

  • @astrolopitekos
    @astrolopitekos Місяць тому +12

    Actual journalism. Weird this was so unexpected but it just feels so good. I want to print that and tell my grandkids about metal.

  • @Janokins
    @Janokins Місяць тому +56

    10:03 Lacuna Coil mentioned! 🇮🇹

  • @iFireRonin
    @iFireRonin Місяць тому +24

    Roy Khan: Tell me everything down to the details.
    Forbes: Bet

  • @DMXIII
    @DMXIII Місяць тому +47

    Forbes understand more about metal than Spotify 😂

    • @FELTSZ
      @FELTSZ Місяць тому +3

      Spoti sucks

    • @DamocMetalFever
      @DamocMetalFever Місяць тому

      It's more like Forbes was smart enough to reach for a specialist to write this article.

    • @zackzallie8735
      @zackzallie8735 26 днів тому

      Spotify thinks AC/DC is metal. lol

    • @Bugsy666
      @Bugsy666 21 день тому

      ​@@zackzallie8735and Forbes thinks Tool is... Goons all around tbh

  • @theeviljames
    @theeviljames Місяць тому +42

    First the Olympics have a metal opener, now Forbes is getting in on the scene! Maybe this could really be the start a great metal uprising!

    • @ishanpandita1012
      @ishanpandita1012 Місяць тому +1

      @@theeviljames It is definitely more relevant than it was like 5 years ago I believe. Nu Metal is also relevant again.

    • @trippybruh1592
      @trippybruh1592 Місяць тому +3

      Waiting on the Super Bowl to pick Slayer and the opening song will be Repentless.

    • @AbstractEntityJ
      @AbstractEntityJ Місяць тому

      It would help if we had more top-tier new albums. The 2020s have been a subpar decade for metal thusfar.

    • @Bugsy666
      @Bugsy666 21 день тому

      ​@@trippybruh1592Who wants to hear any of that new garbage?

    • @Bugsy666
      @Bugsy666 21 день тому

      ​​​​@@AbstractEntityJAscended Dead, WORM, Hellripper, GBK, Cirith Ungol, Phantom GDL, Attic, Diabolic Night, Cruel Force, Crypt Sermon, Sale Freux, Immolation, Feel The Knife, Exhumed, Dead Congregation, Kerrigan, Crucifier, Necrofier, Dungeon Serpent, Vulture, Satan, Vicious Blade, Artillery, Spell, Grenadier, Arghoslent, Witchery, Kryptos, Iron Curtain, Midnight Priest, Sühnopfer, Urfaust, Angelcorpse, Unaussprechlichen Kulten, Hellbutcher, Lucifer's Hammer, Hydra, Peste Noire... Come on, dude. None of these are even underground bands. I'm sure there's a ton of great crap made by a couple teenagers on a dictophone and limited to 50 handmade copies that smokes half of this list, we just haven't found it yet.

  • @xtrafe5953
    @xtrafe5953 Місяць тому +17

    Not in video: Quentin's IG shows "Follow Back" = "One Of Us" confrmed.

  • @Rob-gx7rx
    @Rob-gx7rx Місяць тому +49

    s'weird, cant believe there's anyone into heavy music who hasnt heard of kyuss! i was never that into em but was under the impression that they were very well known

    • @ConnorHealeyProject
      @ConnorHealeyProject Місяць тому +4

      Yo! I have had this thought, so many times and wondered why, but it’s just like this weird reality. I am a musicologist who specializes on popular music from 1960 forward, and I cannot tell you how many times I have spoke with folks, even some who are very familiar with QOTSA, that have never heard of them or any of the bands in that greater dessert rock/stoner scene.

    • @humanmusiciansareredundant
      @humanmusiciansareredundant Місяць тому +3

      nope. i've heard of them only because of Otu, never listened to them otherwise

    • @sonictemple2925
      @sonictemple2925 Місяць тому +2

      Kyuss was sick.

    • @Rob-gx7rx
      @Rob-gx7rx Місяць тому

      @@ConnorHealeyProject musicologist... cool! i've been trawling through a lot of stuff the past year. some tunes i found suggested at random for you: Machinedrum feat. Mono/Poly & Tanerélle - Star, Video Prick 2019 Demo, Grand Slam - Sister of Mercy (old Phil Lynott live versions obviously), Karp - Get No Toys, Kvazar - Off By One/Mutant Rhetorics, Romantic Gorilla - Blue, Goatsnake - Grandpa Jones, Banned From Utopia - Outside Now (Zappa cover live in Israel 1997), Jakub Zytecki full live performance 2020, Secret Chiefs 3 - Holy Vehm- Hypostasis of the Archons, Steve Von Till - To The Field, Bialystocks - 灯台 (Studio session), Dabbla - Devil You Know, Jon Gomm - Temporary, Eldergrey - Southern Star, Andain - Beautiful Things (Gabriel & Dresden Unplugged Mix)

    • @MedTechMetal
      @MedTechMetal Місяць тому +2

      Been a fan since blues for the red sun

  • @MamPuia321
    @MamPuia321 Місяць тому +32

    solid list kinda disappointed to not see Opeth in the list though

    • @digitalnomad90
      @digitalnomad90 Місяць тому

      This. It was going pretty good, but not having Opeth somewhere in there made the list "At least they tried" tier.

    • @kadriblabali
      @kadriblabali Місяць тому +1

      @@digitalnomad90 "at least they tried" is a bit mean considering the many good picks and how they were ordered, it's specially mean considering we're belittling the list simply because it didn't include Opeth... like, they're alright, but come on... it's a top 38 not a top 100 or even a top 50, they can be the 39th pick for all we know and that spot doesn't seem like a bad spot for Opeth

    • @necaacen
      @necaacen Місяць тому

      @@kadriblabali i dunno man, opeth are one of the greatest metal bands of all time. musically they should be top 3, theyre less important to the history than some of these other bands so yeah you put someone like metallica ahead of them purely based on their place in the history. but blackwater park, ghost reveries and watershed is a stronger 3 album combo than any 3 metallica albums, or machine head, or slipknot, or korn, or deftones, or pantera, or sepultura, or even mastadon who themselves are musically ahead of everyone else i just mentioned. not as influential to the scene historically of course, which is why youd put pantera and metallica ahead of them.

  • @KeanuChrist
    @KeanuChrist Місяць тому +39

    3:08 That’s crazy because every Sabaton fan I’ve ever met wastes no time to tell me which war that song is about.

    • @BruhMomentPatrick
      @BruhMomentPatrick Місяць тому +8

      Because war metal is an actual genre... It's a stupid black metal subgenre with almost inaudible songs but bands like Blasphemy are good ☻

    • @CoffeeMonster12
      @CoffeeMonster12 Місяць тому +10

      War metal is an inaudible genre of black metal so quite far from Sabaton

    • @digitalmortality2001
      @digitalmortality2001 Місяць тому +5

      people who call sabaton war metal also believe pirate metal is a real genre

    • @FELTSZ
      @FELTSZ Місяць тому

      ​​@@CoffeeMonster12 Nik should know that Canada has a huge war metal scene. Metalheads from this subgenre usually have overt or covert N-word views and political stances. Bands: Revenge, Profane Order, Morbosidad, Pig's Blood, Holocausto.

    • @datenschutzification
      @datenschutzification Місяць тому +6

      @@FELTSZweird euphemism for “they’re neo fascists mostly” but you do you

  • @Thomatos200
    @Thomatos200 Місяць тому +3

    It makes me so happy to see my favorite bands on this list (meshuggah, gojira, and SOAD) I always feel like SOAD doesn't get enough credit but I'm probably biased

  • @RyanBuote-ik8ny
    @RyanBuote-ik8ny Місяць тому +14

    WOO LETS GO 27 seconds nik my boyyyuyy

  • @billyboostah6308
    @billyboostah6308 Місяць тому +50

    No Opeth?

    • @rickvince
      @rickvince Місяць тому +3

      Thank you!

    • @FlorpingAllOver
      @FlorpingAllOver Місяць тому +6

      Yea that's just fucked up

    • @chinmay8954
      @chinmay8954 Місяць тому +3

      Yeah I was surprised too

    • @FELTSZ
      @FELTSZ Місяць тому +1

      ​@@FlorpingAllOverI love Opeth.
      I love Opeth. But this band is just a bunch of 50 year old guys stealing ideas and a lot of riffs from obscure 20th century hard-rock, jazz fusion bands and adding a little growl. What they're doing

    • @FELTSZ
      @FELTSZ Місяць тому +1

      Mastodon seem more presentable to modern listeners, Opeth is like chatting at grandma's table with a plate of strawberry jam.

  • @albertovaldivia6132
    @albertovaldivia6132 Місяць тому +11

    Yo that corekid merch is fire af!

  • @imidesu
    @imidesu Місяць тому +10

    Holy shit a mainstream media top 50 didn't disappoint????? Also with well written extras, Quentin is insane

  • @Frogmonkey095
    @Frogmonkey095 Місяць тому +7

    King Diamond are absolutely heavy metal and deserve to be on any top metal list. Also, it's October, the perfect month to listen to them. Quentin gets mad props for including them. You might be getting them confused with Alice Cooper who are definitely rock and have a similar aesthetic.
    Pretty good list, I think there were some odd choices in the ranking, but definitely a great starting point for metal newbies. Doing 38 seems strange though, probably a page or word limit that prevented doing a top 50 or so. If it did expand to 50, I'd expect some combination of these:
    Darkthrone/Mayhem
    Opeth
    Sodom/Kreator - they had all of the big 4, but none of the Teutonic Big 4: Sodom/Kreator/Tankard/Destruction (Sodom and Kreator I think are the two most influential among the old German thrash bands) Anthrax is the weakest of the big 4, so cut them for one of these
    X Japan - one of the first Japanese metal bands, and heavily influenced the visual kei scene
    Dismember/Entombed/Grave - any one of these to represent the old school Swedish death metal scene
    Blind Guardian/Helloween - German power metal gods
    Dir en Grey - one of Japan's greatest bands, with one of the greatest vocalists in all of metal
    Doro
    Bathory
    Venom
    Candlemass
    Paradise Lost/Katatonia

    • @donquique1
      @donquique1 26 днів тому +1

      I like tankard but no where influential. Kreator yes, destruction maybe. Huge fan of Sodom but that is a maybe for me. I am also borderline with venom. Helloween definitely for power metal. Someone would make an argument for celtic frost for their operatic sound.

  • @alexandreteixeira6532
    @alexandreteixeira6532 Місяць тому +2

    Nightwish mentioned ! :D

  • @domiissartier2774
    @domiissartier2774 Місяць тому +9

    Quentin, we love u

  • @cyberdan42
    @cyberdan42 Місяць тому +20

    Where is In Flames, Opeth or Arch Enemy? One of these bands should have made a list, Northern European Melo-Death, which is hugely influential. If we have all of the "Big Four", we should have one of these groundbreakers (frankly, I'd include all three, In Flames is foundational to Gothenburg Metal, Opeth are hugely influential, and Arch Enemy - Angela Gassow and the rise of modern female growler vocals, 'nuff said). I won't go into who I'd remove from the list, but looking at it, there are three spots I could switch out, and I think for those bands, you have to.

    • @AnneAslaug
      @AnneAslaug Місяць тому +4

      Agreed, agreed and agreed except the "Gothenburg Metal" part... Norwegian here, ridiculous term. Then Burzum is Bergen Metal, Enslaved is Trøndelag metal, Mayhem is Norway metal, DarkThrone is Østfold Metal and so forth and so on.... There is the term "Swedish Death Metal" and/or just Scandinavian death/black metal, but making TOWN origin separate genres is plain stupid. One of my favourite bands of all time was Entombed of the first albums and EPs, I hate 99 % of black metal and having the tragi-comical travesties of the early 1990's black metal as part of my national history, but from what I have seen of movies and books, reality is being outridiculed. Christ. Not.

    • @AnneAslaug
      @AnneAslaug Місяць тому +2

      I checked Forbes, there is a seperate "best black metal bands", but no death metal list which has always been bigger and much, much better musically on a general basis and is silly from a music history point of view, but I suspect this may be from a "having-an-impact-on-international,-general-and-scandalous,-and -therefore-potentially-profittable-history" point of view, this being Forbes...

    • @AnneAslaug
      @AnneAslaug Місяць тому

      Eller mener vi LOK og Lillasyster når vi snakker om Gothenburg-metal...? Loving them!

    • @poopsock7493
      @poopsock7493 Місяць тому

      Waaaaaaaah!!!! WAAAAAAHHH!

    • @samuelsiltala119
      @samuelsiltala119 Місяць тому +2

      I think Children Of Bodom should have made the list as well potentially, but good shouts. I'd put those 3 suggestions and COB in a TOP10 honorary mentions for sure, since this list is already published.

  • @ritualsofthedarksun
    @ritualsofthedarksun Місяць тому +4

    3:00 - YO NIK! Here's some info about Desert-Rock.
    So basically in the late 80s kids of small town in the desert of Joshua Tree, always grabbed geberators to ride out in the desert, to play concerts there, have parties, do drugs or have xxx far away from law or their parents, the most notable band from that scene emerging was Kyuss. Next to that at around the same time some Stoners did a similar style of music, their band was called "Sleep" and the sung about weed a lot. Both came up with names for their style Kyuss: Desert-Rock Sleep: Stoner-Rock. Both are really more or less the same genre. Sleep's name for the genre just became more popular. So if you like the music, but don't wanna scare boomers off with the name use of any drug consumption, say Desert-Rock 😅
    Anyway, after Kyuss split in the late 90s, original Bassist "Nick Oliveri", guitarist "Josh Homme" and their latest drummer (forgot his name) started a new band combining the Desert-Rock - Roots with more commercially popular Alternative-Rock. The result of that recipe was the beginning of the band:
    Queens of the Stone Age

  • @SENORDRC
    @SENORDRC Місяць тому +6

    You talked about KoRn, Gojira, and Spiritbox and I just saw all 3 live last night in Mountain View CA 🤘

    • @Richard-d1y
      @Richard-d1y Місяць тому

      No you didn't.

    • @juststig2735
      @juststig2735 Місяць тому +1

      @@Richard-d1ysomeone woke up on the wrong side of the bed

    • @Bugsy666
      @Bugsy666 21 день тому

      Sorry about your luck

  • @YeshwantP
    @YeshwantP Місяць тому +6

    So Early for a NIKNOC video is absolutely diabolical

  • @torpitsanas9010
    @torpitsanas9010 Місяць тому +1

    Surprising good list. Someone in Forbes have get head injury when they do article of Metal Music:) They also done in August article/Interview Nightwish Floor Jansen about their new album and their tour break. Nightwish fans were also little confused, Forbes and Nightwish and Metal???

  • @jacobocamargo8743
    @jacobocamargo8743 Місяць тому +5

    I love the list because it seems that is more about the influence in metal music each band created but the only band that i would change is Converge for Killswitch Engage for the metalcore era. Still this is the most accurate metal list i've seen in my metal journey.

  • @eyemoeba2
    @eyemoeba2 Місяць тому

    the bands that changed me from the pop kid i was in the 80s are rush, faith no more, soundgarden, pearl jam, tool, deftones and meshuggah. most older stuff apart from zeppelin and sabbath i find more difficult to appreciate with 2020s' ears. i appreciate and thank these artists - some of which arguably aren't metal - for the evolution. this list gives me lots more rabbit holes to approach. nice one.

  • @RedHoodFH
    @RedHoodFH Місяць тому +12

    'I gotta do way more drugs' Nik 2024

  • @B3rtmann
    @B3rtmann Місяць тому +2

    Sweet baby jesus, Kyuss being on this list is absolutely my favourite pick. Love that! Quentin, you deserve this Corekid merch!

  • @arrebarre900
    @arrebarre900 Місяць тому +23

    Having no Bathory or Venom is actually absurd, basically all metal after them are influenced by them. I'd say both Running Wild and Manilla Road deserve a spot too. Incredibly consistent.

    • @AnneAslaug
      @AnneAslaug Місяць тому +1

      Venom and Bathory are mentioned in the separate "Best black metal bands list".

    • @UltimateGamerCC
      @UltimateGamerCC Місяць тому

      Bathory definitely came to mind, but giving it to Behemoth isnt a terrible pick either.

    • @fullmetalguy8357
      @fullmetalguy8357 Місяць тому +5

      Venom, Hellhammer / Celtic Frost and Bathory are so influential that without them, death and black metal might not have existed.

    • @_TheUnforgiven_
      @_TheUnforgiven_ Місяць тому

      @@arrebarre900 Also Mayhem, Celtic Frost, Dark Throne, Mercyful Fate and etc. I’m glad, that you mentioned Venom and Bathory.

    • @atvena
      @atvena Місяць тому

      I think carcass leads the extreme metal charge and then behemoth covers black metal but i agree mayhem was stiff

  • @Le-Big-Makke
    @Le-Big-Makke Місяць тому +26

    They forgot OPETH.

    • @donquique1
      @donquique1 26 днів тому +1

      Yeah that is a huge miss.

    • @Bugsy666
      @Bugsy666 21 день тому +1

      Don't blame them, I would forget about that snoozefest too if it weren't for people bringing them up in UA-cam comments lol

  • @zachhenderson7982
    @zachhenderson7982 Місяць тому +3

    I hope Quentin sees this! Who knows, maybe Nik could get an interview with Forbes. That'd be nuts

  • @DinkyMax
    @DinkyMax Місяць тому +3

    So Spopoofy should ask Forbes to make their goddamn playlist haha!! And I agree with you, of all the big OG bands...Iron Maiden is definitely my favorite. I mean 3 guitars, fingerpicked bass which you can hear, the riffs!!

  • @majimasmajimemes1156
    @majimasmajimemes1156 Місяць тому +3

    6:50 there's a band called Melted Bodies that have an extreme SOAD vibe to them

    • @robertpraetorius4007
      @robertpraetorius4007 Місяць тому

      also, people who hear Voice of Baceprot (Voᗺ) often comment on hearing SoaD influence, frequently less than a minute into a track. And Toxicity is what got Voᗺ started down the road to metal. Their biggest hit ("God Allow me (Please) to Play Music") is one of their SOADier tracks, but overall, they're more of a rap/punk/funk/metal fusion than proper metal (Voᗺ are my favorite new(ish) band, but potentially repulsive to metal purists).

  • @Thierry74261
    @Thierry74261 Місяць тому +2

    Big respect Quentin ! Thank you !

  • @Kelly30stm
    @Kelly30stm Місяць тому +5

    Korn made me happy.

    • @raulfigueroa588
      @raulfigueroa588 Місяць тому

      Should be ranked higher than 14. Hurt to see Rammstein, Deftones, and SoAD ranked ahead of them tbh

  • @alys__drummer
    @alys__drummer Місяць тому +2

    For the first time ever, one of these top [insert subject] lists hasn’t given Nik depression XD

  • @Talkimas
    @Talkimas Місяць тому +4

    Honearly a pretty solid list overall. obviously theres a lot of other bands that could have been included, but the only glaringly egregious omission is Fear Factory

    • @AnneAslaug
      @AnneAslaug Місяць тому

      The entirety of all the Industrial legends are missing! Ministry! Godflesh! Scorn! The closest is Rammstein... And to me, leaving out FNM is just as bad, if not worse. Also, ignoring Deep Purple is ridicilous, but most Americans seem to be oblivious to their existence and actually believes Tony Iommi invented metal... Nothing new there.

    • @laurisaarinen1126
      @laurisaarinen1126 Місяць тому

      I was thinking of FF also! Very important and kick ass band.
      Also, was Killswitch Engage missing? That's kinda surprising. At least they can't be too new if Gojira qualifies.

    • @necaacen
      @necaacen Місяць тому

      opeth and nine inch nails seem like even bigger misses than FF.

  • @Holy_Frakula
    @Holy_Frakula Місяць тому +1

    Gojira can only really be realized once heard live. I say that as someone who didn't really get it from listening to their recordings. It wasn't bad but it just didn't grab me. But live.....whole different experience. Now whenever i hear them thats the experience it invokes. Love Gojira.

  • @gobkin123
    @gobkin123 Місяць тому +5

    Send the man a comlimentary Corekid t-shirt!

  • @randywissler9923
    @randywissler9923 Місяць тому +1

    Other than switching a few of the positions, this list is spot on! Forbes is doing fun metal things there!! 🤘🤘🤘

  • @SnowboardWithYourGF
    @SnowboardWithYourGF Місяць тому +9

    It's so bizarre to me that they ranked Avenged Sevenfold, but completely left Bullet For My Valentine and Killswitch Engage off the list.

    • @FELTSZ
      @FELTSZ Місяць тому

      Killswitch much better than this lame Guns' N Roses rip-off band, called A7x

    • @kokusho1
      @kokusho1 Місяць тому +7

      @@FELTSZ You've never really listened to A7X if you think they're just a GnR ripoff.

    • @harperroy5687
      @harperroy5687 Місяць тому

      A7 Just bigger

    • @rileth52
      @rileth52 Місяць тому +2

      @@kokusho1 dude they're just like GNR... Except way more talented in every role and sounding way different. Exactly the same!

    • @kokusho1
      @kokusho1 Місяць тому +2

      @@rileth52 you’re right, I’m an idiot

  • @NameGueSapeYe
    @NameGueSapeYe Місяць тому +2

    6:55 Maximum the Hormone does it.

  • @nihilist1280
    @nihilist1280 Місяць тому +12

    No Opeth, Blind Guardian, Helloween, Trivium, Bathory, Mayhem, Mercyful Fate, Emperor, Dimmu Borgir, Morbid Angel, Celtic Frost, Kreator, Sodom, Dissection. Should have been on there.

    • @bambesfresser
      @bambesfresser Місяць тому +2

      That's 17 bands. Which 17 bands would need to come off the list then? And seriously, we need both Kreator and Sodom? May was well add Tankard to it.

    • @nihilist1280
      @nihilist1280 Місяць тому

      @@bambesfresser Maybe not all of them, but most I would still put... Sodom or Kreator, either could work

  • @thanoskalamaris3671
    @thanoskalamaris3671 Місяць тому +1

    Manowar should make the list.
    They are iconic and guilty pleasure

  • @shortlivedglory3314
    @shortlivedglory3314 Місяць тому +8

    2:53 Kyuss is a solid pick. Not everyone's cup of tea, but definitely legends in their own right. Josh Homme went on to be much more successful with Queens of the Stone Age and Eagles of Death Metal.

    • @ResurrectedDarokun
      @ResurrectedDarokun Місяць тому +1

      They did pretty good cover of Black Sabbath song called "Into the Void"

    • @shortlivedglory3314
      @shortlivedglory3314 Місяць тому

      @@ResurrectedDarokun indeed they did.

    • @cyberdan42
      @cyberdan42 Місяць тому +2

      For the fans, most metal bands are legends in their own right; the question is, did the band transcend the fans and significantly impact the wider genre? Were they 'essential' to the community. For example, I think Metallica would be no higher than third on my list, behind Sabbath and Maiden, but honestly, because of the impact they have had on metal worldwide, I can't complain that Metallica is likely number one.

    • @JoelER78
      @JoelER78 Місяць тому +1

      @@cyberdan42 I think the first 3 spots are interchangeable...kind of as you say!

  • @treishtrei
    @treishtrei Місяць тому +1

    Notable mentions: Ghost, Volbeat, Opeth, Protest the Hero

  • @blanana_m
    @blanana_m Місяць тому +9

    How did we lose on Spotify but win on Forbes

  • @justindevoe9556
    @justindevoe9556 Місяць тому

    When I saw this list I was mindblown that a major publication not only wrote this article but actually made respectable picks. This might be the best “greatest” list I’ve seen from a non-music site, and it’s better than a lot of music site lists

  • @TheCrimsonOne508
    @TheCrimsonOne508 Місяць тому +8

    The only band on there I think deserves to be there is Opeth. Maybe Candlemass or Sleep, too. Type O Negative on there is rad af tho

    • @dsVektor
      @dsVektor Місяць тому +2

      For real, Opeth was criminally robbed.

    • @necaacen
      @necaacen Місяць тому

      NIN?

    • @TheCrimsonOne508
      @TheCrimsonOne508 Місяць тому

      @@necaacen NIN is a rock band not a metal band

    • @necaacen
      @necaacen Місяць тому

      @@TheCrimsonOne508 their biggest albums were considered industrial metal when they were released. they are more metal than bands like deftones, sure theyve done other stuff in other genres but changes by ozzy is hardly metal if were gonna say the downward spiral is a rock album (which its not). opeth dont get discounted because theyre now prog rock.
      nin are one of the most important metal bands of all time.

  • @InsaneMonk89
    @InsaneMonk89 Місяць тому

    This is probably THE most accurate depiction of the Metal/Music culture. So awesome!

  • @Joiny07
    @Joiny07 Місяць тому +4

    You don't know Kyuss ? Demon Cleaner? Here it comes: Queens of the stone age doesn't mean anything to you, just like Tool.

  • @fasthands1631
    @fasthands1631 Місяць тому +2

    Slipknot above slayer is the biggest W I've seen on a list like this

  • @skeletor68
    @skeletor68 Місяць тому +10

    Opeth...

  • @ericcalvert7499
    @ericcalvert7499 Місяць тому

    Nik, man, be careful with this storm coming through. Hope all fends well where you are and the storm lessens greatly before landfall. Best wishes from the Midwest!

  • @ИванГорюнков
    @ИванГорюнков Місяць тому +6

    Where is Venom, Sodom, Fear Factory, Testament, Bathory, Possessed?

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 Місяць тому

      I believe this is more about net worth since this is a financial magazine,

  • @SteveW928
    @SteveW928 Місяць тому

    Skillet & Amaranthe so far... just starting to dig in. I liked some of the older hard-rock/metal bands years ago, but a lot of metal has been much darker than I like to listen to... so Skillet's positive message and vibe were a great discovery. That took me (via algos) in a roundabout way to Amaranthe, and I've really been enjoying some of their stuff, too.

  • @bradharris1459
    @bradharris1459 Місяць тому +9

    No Opeth. :(

  • @hvitekristesdod
    @hvitekristesdod 28 днів тому +1

    King Diamond made it. I’m happy 😊

  • @eweng903
    @eweng903 Місяць тому +4

    Forbes has forgotten '80s hair metal along with the rest of us. Metallica at number 1 is a bit of stretch nowadays given that their studio albums after The Black Album have been so-so at best.

    • @ishanpandita1012
      @ishanpandita1012 Місяць тому

      @@eweng903 I would put Maiden at first but Metallica is the biggest metal band, so Idk. Everyone knows their songs, unlike Maiden or the other bands.
      And 80s hair metal is basically hard rock, so I suppose it makes sense not to put them there. Don't know how bands like Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Whitesnake ever qualified as metal.

    • @MaxArch
      @MaxArch Місяць тому +1

      metallica name sake well known in metal community and non metal community, thats why it is no 1. not about personal or some section opinion, but overall from the mass opinion, can't deny that. im not even a big metallica fans though 😅

    • @OldManoftheWoodss
      @OldManoftheWoodss Місяць тому +1

      They made a billion dollars this year touring and they’ll make another billion next year. A magazine like Forbes is going to recognize the fiscal impact a band makes and no other metal band makes it in Forbes top 10 money making musicians except Metallica. So Metallica being number 1 makes perfect sense

    • @eweng903
      @eweng903 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@OldManoftheWoodss Metallica's WorldWired Tour grossed $430 million, that's a lot less than for example Coldplay's A Head Full of Dreams Tour grossed. There is also the case that playing sports stadia means that the band live has actually a worse sound than bands that play acoustically superior venues.

    • @OldManoftheWoodss
      @OldManoftheWoodss Місяць тому

      @@eweng903 you didn’t add in merch, sales and the fact the band owns its own catalog , management , touring crew and has zero out of pocket expenses that aren’t related to the band. So take the 430 million in ticket sales and add up the money in streaming, sales of merch and anything else I might be missing and according to Forbes they made a billion dollars in 2019. So as far as a Forbes article goes they are the biggest metal band on the planet income to profits in the world. Nothing costs them money everything is done in house without owing money to anyone. Christ they bought a record company to print only their vinyl lol. So I’m still going with biggest financial success in metal

  • @heinrichlegend263
    @heinrichlegend263 Місяць тому

    Nightwish as biggest Symphonic Metal Band mentioned?! And Nick shows absolute taste to name my two favourite bands Epica and Kamelot ^^ Big win right there

  • @IKolpikov
    @IKolpikov Місяць тому +4

    Blind Guardian and other bands to represent power metal are missing.

    • @sauliruottu5871
      @sauliruottu5871 Місяць тому

      Exactly. Helloween definitely should've been there as a pioneer of the genre, and inspiring countless of bands. And even if I'm a bit indifferent to Yngwie Malmsteen, how is he not on the list?

    • @atvena
      @atvena Місяць тому

      I'm guessing iron maiden covers it

    • @BaronSenf
      @BaronSenf Місяць тому

      @@atvena Helloween and Accept predated and inspired so many bands (Blind Guardian, Nightwish, Stratovarius, Hammerfall, Rhapsody, Sonata Arctica, Sabaton, Angra) that "Euro Power Metal" needs special recognition. This genre was huge by the end of the 90s.

    • @brun0lpc
      @brun0lpc Місяць тому

      I can totally tell the writer was American because of total ignorance of power metal

  • @laurisaarinen1126
    @laurisaarinen1126 Місяць тому +2

    Kyuss in my opinion sounds more rock than metal, but i don't know what most people consider them. I really prefer Queens of the Stone Age, but they are definitely a rock band. I know Kyuss is heavier than QOTSA for sure.
    I'm very happy with the list being so diverse and accurate. Personally i would have been happy just to see Pantera and Slipknot but damn, we really got all the way solid list. From a site that is not even music focused? Rolling Stone and Loudwire gotta step up their game... 😅

  • @pooyashirazi1991
    @pooyashirazi1991 Місяць тому +13

    The absence of Opeth makes this list null and void.

  • @Kraateer.
    @Kraateer. 22 дні тому

    This is definitely the absolute best list I saw like in years. While it misses some of the biggest bands like AC/DC, Zeppelins, Motorhead, Nirvana you cant stuck everyone into only 38 places and the incredible diversity and inclusion of bands like KoRn and Tool and Converge which are almost always excluded from the similar lists (unless its subgenre specific) feels really rejuventating. Way to go Quentin!

  • @K_miel
    @K_miel Місяць тому +4

    No bring me? Ill find them

  • @CEOAirsoft
    @CEOAirsoft Місяць тому +1

    Top 5 Bands for me in no order: Rammstein, The Plot in You, Electric Callboy, Eisbrecher, Motionless in White

  • @MajorBucky
    @MajorBucky Місяць тому +4

    6:32 I do actually know of a band that has a lot of SOAD influence. They're a russian-armenian band called Manapart that got started around 2020. Their vocalist also sounds a lot like Serj, so much so that the first song i heard from them, I thought it had a Serj feature or was one of his side projects

    • @robertpraetorius4007
      @robertpraetorius4007 Місяць тому

      Thanks for the (implicit) recommendation. Just listened to Roombaya. Great melodic metal!

  • @dirtydoge756
    @dirtydoge756 Місяць тому +1

    That's actually a really solid list. Well done for once, Forbes!

  • @DrTim0thyLeary
    @DrTim0thyLeary Місяць тому +7

    Fear Factory literally pioneered the clean/scream vocal style of Metal. But they always get ignored.

    • @necaacen
      @necaacen Місяць тому +1

      ya thats true. i honestly think fear factory are probably more important to the development of metal than say sepultura, who were themselves very important of course.

  • @RenzoGamesAndMetalMusic
    @RenzoGamesAndMetalMusic Місяць тому

    Vision of Disorder circa 96 was I think the first Metalcore band I'd ever heard. Not sure what became of them, but 16 y.o. me was a huge fan.

  • @matthewboik421
    @matthewboik421 Місяць тому +6

    Meshuggah and Gojira on this list is a massive, underrated W

  • @InTheY2K
    @InTheY2K Місяць тому

    Your excitement is contagious! 🙂

  • @Verethraghnah
    @Verethraghnah Місяць тому +4

    Machine Head being in there is such a W. Underrated as fuck.

    • @vrant_19
      @vrant_19 Місяць тому +1

      They are pretty massive in the metal scene.. not underrated imo

    • @atvena
      @atvena Місяць тому

      They're pretty boring but massive runs on the board so I would hate to see any of the big 4 of groove metal miss out

  • @mikkohonkkila
    @mikkohonkkila Місяць тому +1

    one of us ✊
    EDIT: Had to go for the number three. Dance with dead is my jam. Whoa oh holy.

  • @RendertoDeath
    @RendertoDeath Місяць тому +3

    What? If there is no Opeth in a list of metal bands, that list is invalid, criminal; it is nonsense, absurd and wrong.

  • @rileth52
    @rileth52 Місяць тому

    Avenged and Syn are one of if not the biggest reason in the past 20 years people including myself wanted to learn to play guitar. The genre bending is also so fun.

  • @npichora3023
    @npichora3023 Місяць тому +5

    Send me a left hand guitar just because thanks love you….

  • @simonced
    @simonced Місяць тому

    Didn't expect Nick to read Forbes in the first place.
    So much unexpected in one video!
    Great content as usual ;)

  • @syntezjaofficial4240
    @syntezjaofficial4240 Місяць тому +1

    Fun fact about desert rock is that in Poland we have metal festival with stage called Desert Stage and most stoner rock/metal bands are playing there

  • @davidlinnane1373
    @davidlinnane1373 Місяць тому

    Great video! It's a good article for sure but your review made it even better!

  • @hclyrics
    @hclyrics Місяць тому

    Quentin nailed this list! I have a lot of respect for the early trailblazers of metal, hc, and punk, even though I'm the dingus who basically only listens to modern stuff.

  • @belquerst
    @belquerst Місяць тому

    I'm totally fine with this list.. I still miss few awesome bands but it's okay.. didn't expect that from Forbes, good job :)

  • @johnstew4735
    @johnstew4735 Місяць тому

    Very good list. I am just surprised by the lack of power/speed metal band that were pretty big in the 90's/early 2000 such as Helloween, Gamma Ray or Blind Guardian.

  • @Zinetha
    @Zinetha Місяць тому +2

    "One of us!! One of us!!!" Indeed.