oh wow, i was actually just checking up if there was updated bow/staff videos, and this just dropped, thank you, ive been following your last video guide., even tho i had some questions :)
Totally agree , i was wondering if whelps's first guide video was somehow outdated/changed , trying to find a different guide but whelps to the rescue !
Even as a non staff/wand player myself, I learned a few new things. I had no idea the power of healing touch + natures prayer, wooooosh, that heal was epic.
I just cant find the words to express my gratitude ,i fell inlove with this class ,and your videos guided me to it . Thank you for taking your time and explaining everything. Greetings from Bulgaria
awesome, switching from Staff/Dagger to this. Its been days since im watching you, now i have decided lol. keep up the videos man. Youre doing awesome! Liked,subscribed!
Great stuff Whelps. Two questions: 1) at 6:50 when you swap meteor for ice spear, you still have 4 points left - why don't you take take Projectile Speed Increase on Fireball + the increase radius? It only costs 3 points; and 2) In your medium-size PVP loadout, why take Nock instead of Strafe (more damage), or Inferno Wave (AOE)?
1) I was just trying to explain the trait, you can take both yes 2) zephyr is more dmg, you want that 1 hard hitting ability to secure kill rather than multi hit small dmg with no trait so you only cast twice, its also low cd
I was searching for this since its a very powerful combo bow/staff, i switched from gs/dagger which is also strong but this one just does a bit more and also at a safe distance. 감사합니다
Props to you for the great breakdown. I only PVE atm but may have to PVP for my guild at some point. Earned a sub thank you for all the skill and settings explanations. PS I main GS atm lol
Started a bow/staff class today. Couldn't figure out the rotation and this vid helped so much. Thank you. Can I drop Zephyrs Nock and run Healing Touch instead? Feel like a glass cannon at times.
Thanks for the video. I’m wondering what about doing the most single target damage to peace bosses/ guild bosses? Is it optimal to use the same one here?
hello since i started to play game (like boost server thing) i followed your guide and now i see your video about combo, nice workout for community. i already know how combo works but this is huge content.
Thank you for the well explained guides! They have been so helpful. I am still a bit stuck on your smaller scale pvp builds. Do you intend to make a small guide with explaining when to use certain skills. I am trying to get into arena
Hi Whelps, been following you since my day 1 of T&L and love your guides. I noticed that the settings you showed is different than what I have. Is this a customised UI layout i need to see in order to view it? I don't have any of the options to "Aim Skills Lock on Target"
You have one of the best builds and overall skills and style of teaching I’ve seen on T&L. I tried your build and it’s so fun. At the same time, I tried to mess around with it and didn’t like just the 2 damage skills from the long bow so I slapped on the short bow since I started with it and wondering what you think: Still nimble and quick fire. But I slapped on the fire for nature’s skill and it brought me up to 10 super fast. From that I was able to take out the regular fireball and that ground fire spell (sorry I’m a noob). I was able to put on chain lightning and the other lightning spell and all works so well. Many people just use the lightning from the nature’s spell from xbow, but how the fire synergies with the core of your mage build is so fun. Just wanted to share in a way of gratitude. I’ve always enjoyed build crafting but this is the first time I’m giving a bit of details on it. I think I broke Diablo 4 last season too but maybe it was a glitch so not giving myself too much credit. Anyway, if anyone wants the exact build I’d be delighted to share.
One of the best guides I've seen. Only thing is the easy cast option in the setting doesn't exist or I can find it even though I've looked exactly where the vid says.
Even with toublek staff would you advise 15 yards vs 21 yards. Becomes 50 damage vs a bucketload of crit + 2.4% increased crit damage. Also feels like uptime on spells and being stationary is much higher when youre out that far
Ya no point going this build without being as max range. Plus when you do with all that crit from toublek staff, you can put points into wisdom/perc instead of dex
thx for the guide and sorry for asking but, 1 snipe full charged is around 8k for me which is the dps of 2 and half skills, why is not worth since in t1 we have cooldowns all over the place during bosses?
hey whelps! amazing video! when did you start to level up your third weapon? Right now I play Bow Dagger but in one of your videos you said, that you leveled up dagger as a 3rd weapon. I would like to play Staff/Bow/dagger too - just to have the freedom. But when is a good point to start leveling the 3rd weapon? only after the 2 mains are 16/16? what do you think?
Hey Whelps! Amazing guide! Quick question though... Can you make an Arena PvP build? I know that flash/blitz/flash isn't usually used with bow/staff in arena. Correct me if i'm wrong though.. I know it's a new mode.
hello there ! always using your guides since I started the game ! so thanks a lot and keep up the good work ! I want to ask something about this video, will be appreciate it if u can answer me; in the link you gave us for skills, items and such, in "Passive Skill" part, you are using "Mana Amp" but in video while teaching us, you are using "Earth's Blessing". So I am confused, which one should we use for bossing? Thanks again !
what happened to the blue sets? I was going to make bow/staff alt and was recommended to view your guide/questlog. But its missing I don't plan on going any further then blues.
great video whelp! i was doing the marker blunder where i had 5 points on extra marker XDXD. i like hellfire rain its looks flashy when doing the opener but for sure ice spears seem like a more comfy rotation
Hey thank you a lot for this video! It helped me a lot, and clreaded a lot of confusions. Although what I'm also interessted in, you've poster a (Machine Gun Staff /LB Combo) about 2 months ago in a Short of yours, how is that skilled?
thank you so much for this guide Whelps! My Inner Piece skill recovers mana like 20% , is it because of lvl of the skill? I usually do Nature's blessing into Inner Piece , but it recovers like 20% mana
have you tried running deadly marker bullseye specialization and then going strafing x1 -> zephyrs knock -> 1 quick skill -> strafing x1 -> zephyr -> strafing -> quick filler -> zephyr? it makes the rotation insanely tight but getting 3x 8 stack zephyrs seems quite good dmg. With natures blessing whirlpool it's even 8x bullseye and 8x gale stacks every zephyr.
In previous videos you said that its better working on a pvp build rater than a pve, so i should farm for the staff/bow T1 PvP Early/mid or the T1 PvP Early game?
Something I've wondered... what is the rationale for how skills are ordered on the skillbar? I tend to favor ordering the skills based on my primary rotation, but I often see others do not do this.
Heyy! Sorry to ask, but could you type the rotation on aoe farm on your website? Like which order you would use them? You changed the spells on the bar earlier on ghe wbsite and now i'm kinda lost haha! I use the Boss skills for everything haha 😭
Yo sorry for asking this in your guide, but since you know a lot about the game i wanted to know. i did like and suscribe but i wanted to know any recomendation for healer bow/wand build pve pvp? or any content creator you can recommend, thank you so much
When you're showing flash wave for PVP rotation, is that your KR character? Never seen flashwave deal so much damage before..? I am guessing thats on KR servers with higher tier gear?
is bow/staff great for farming? also i wanted to ask about that tier list vid koon talked about gs/daggers never getting pve runs or people don't like them are they really that bad in late game pve?
Meteor is only purple lvl 1 so its not high damage, what do you think of this same rotation except with ensnaring arrow (plus passive that gives tons of crit on bound/shackled) instead of meteor? Shackle works on boss, so that's a lot of crit rate for a lot of your other abilities?
Can we take off Infernal Meteor? Or really needed for burning stack? High cast time... Not a good dmg either... And most of the time boss moving around and I miss the shot 😂
Love the videos, i think alot of people are confused from the mobile version of the website. Theres an add tha pops up on the bottom of the screen that covers the tabs. If you x it out however, you can find the tabs everyones missing. This assumes your not using a computer tho. Upvote so people can see.
I just started playing today, should I save my skill growth material for skills I unlock to follow your builds or is it ok to use them on early level skills? I'm F2P for now.
Hello mister Whelps, ive been using your Talandre skill build for PvE, and found I like it more, is there any reason its worse or better than the one you talk about here, or is it just an alternative, and what is the priority when it comes to Limit Test, and what skill to reset, thank you!
Hey there, I watched the guide video first and checked the written guide, but I'm still a bit unsure about the stats of the build as they tended to vary (one with tons of Str and one with almost no Str at all for example) in the written guide. I really like the look of this build so would you be kind enough to tell me what my stats should look like?
When do you talk about pvp and pve, a time stamp would be nice and i check the questlog, the build in there diffirent from the one you show in the video i think
I have seen a lot of people taking Ensnaring Arrow and Decisive Sniping instead of Chain Lightning and Inferno Wave. What‘s your reasoning for taking more Staff skills instead?
@@thenightingale7405 I think its a bit harsh calling it trash lol. It has some really great points. No guide can be 100% correct, because this game simply requires you to change stuff up based on content. Ensnaring + decisive sniping make sense in some scenarios and dont make sense in others.
thx for the video i just looked at your build and i am still confused about what is the difference between Evasion - Endurance and Hit Chance - Critical Hit Chance which is better
Sorry new player here - I have a question on why you use the bow as the primary weapon. If I understand correct the weapon mastery skills are only active for your primary weapon choice, so in this case the bow. Since you are mostly using staff skills for damage, would equipping staff primarily be better to unlock that tree?
Hii, ive been following your guides for a while now and love how detailed and helpful they are. Is it possible to do a Healer pve/pvp build? so far i only see dps
omnipotent books are limited, just wondering which one should we lvl up first ... does the damage increase if u lvl up flash arrow first? or just lvl blitz for the CD (for pvp)
oh wow, i was actually just checking up if there was updated bow/staff videos, and this just dropped, thank you, ive been following your last video guide., even tho i had some questions :)
Totally agree , i was wondering if whelps's first guide video was somehow outdated/changed , trying to find a different guide but whelps to the rescue !
same here :)
Me2
Really needed this video, now I can actually contribute to the party
Probably the best video out there explaining the rotation, skill spexcializations and even the name of the spells that change.
Good job buddy!
Even as a non staff/wand player myself, I learned a few new things.
I had no idea the power of healing touch + natures prayer, wooooosh, that heal was epic.
I just cant find the words to express my gratitude ,i fell inlove with this class ,and your videos guided me to it . Thank you for taking your time and explaining everything. Greetings from Bulgaria
This is probably the most well explained guides for staff bow users out there. Thank you 😊
Thanks !!!
Wants to move from Bow/Dagger to Bow/Staff and that's exactly what I've been looking for.
I’m about to make that switch myself
you read my mind lmao. I'm from bow and dagger as well. Just waiting to lvl up my fodder and swap my skills.
I switched bow dagger for bow staff already ahaha
Dagger is stronger in pvp
Interesting, how does this compare to the maxroll guide for staff/bow?
A very good and informative video. Saved me a lot of time. Thanks. I learned a lot.
Thanks for all the guides. Love the build. (Even more after I made a melee Alt char, range is just OP)
Love this guide doing so much dps
Loving the build, thanks for your work on these videos
perfect guide for new BOW/STAFF user
you got a new sub here
Been following your guides and it has been a blast playing Staff/longbow! Thanks!
THX FOR GUIDE I JUST MADE 1st place in secret dungeon boss in 1.45 min or sth
awesome, switching from Staff/Dagger to this. Its been days since im watching you, now i have decided lol. keep up the videos man. Youre doing awesome! Liked,subscribed!
Me too
Great guide, nice and simple, thank you!
Thank you for the guide, just one question
What rotation do you recommend to use for PVE Open world, like mobbing etc
I would just use the same skills as he shows here for pve boss. Plenty of aoe for mobbing also.
Can you discuss about stats? and items?? thank you
Great stuff Whelps. Two questions:
1) at 6:50 when you swap meteor for ice spear, you still have 4 points left - why don't you take take Projectile Speed Increase on Fireball + the increase radius? It only costs 3 points; and
2) In your medium-size PVP loadout, why take Nock instead of Strafe (more damage), or Inferno Wave (AOE)?
We need answers please
1) I was just trying to explain the trait, you can take both yes
2) zephyr is more dmg, you want that 1 hard hitting ability to secure kill rather than multi hit small dmg with no trait so you only cast twice, its also low cd
@@Whelps you the boss man. Thank you so much for your content. Keep up the good job and your subscribers will grow for sure. Just subbed today 🙏🙌
All I can say is thank you, looking forward for more content from you.
I was searching for this since its a very powerful combo bow/staff, i switched from gs/dagger which is also strong but this one just does a bit more and also at a safe distance. 감사합니다
Props to you for the great breakdown. I only PVE atm but may have to PVP for my guild at some point. Earned a sub thank you for all the skill and settings explanations. PS I main GS atm lol
Liked it! Thanks for the great explain and for your work!
Started a bow/staff class today. Couldn't figure out the rotation and this vid helped so much. Thank you. Can I drop Zephyrs Nock and run Healing Touch instead? Feel like a glass cannon at times.
Thanks. Learned something and enjoyed my coffee.
Thanks for the video. I’m wondering what about doing the most single target damage to peace bosses/ guild bosses? Is it optimal to use the same one here?
hello since i started to play game (like boost server thing) i followed your guide and now i see your video about combo, nice workout for community. i already know how combo works but this is huge content.
superb guide! kudos man!
Thank you for the well explained guides! They have been so helpful.
I am still a bit stuck on your smaller scale pvp builds.
Do you intend to make a small guide with explaining when to use certain skills.
I am trying to get into arena
Hi Whelps, been following you since my day 1 of T&L and love your guides. I noticed that the settings you showed is different than what I have. Is this a customised UI layout i need to see in order to view it? I don't have any of the options to "Aim Skills Lock on Target"
You have one of the best builds and overall skills and style of teaching I’ve seen on T&L. I tried your build and it’s so fun. At the same time, I tried to mess around with it and didn’t like just the 2 damage skills from the long bow so I slapped on the short bow since I started with it and wondering what you think:
Still nimble and quick fire. But I slapped on the fire for nature’s skill and it brought me up to 10 super fast. From that I was able to take out the regular fireball and that ground fire spell (sorry I’m a noob). I was able to put on chain lightning and the other lightning spell and all works so well. Many people just use the lightning from the nature’s spell from xbow, but how the fire synergies with the core of your mage build is so fun. Just wanted to share in a way of gratitude. I’ve always enjoyed build crafting but this is the first time I’m giving a bit of details on it. I think I broke Diablo 4 last season too but maybe it was a glitch so not giving myself too much credit. Anyway, if anyone wants the exact build I’d be delighted to share.
2 questions:
Can you give us rotation on purely pve or will the pve boss rotation work?
Also, how can I retain more mana. I run out very fast 😢
Thank you for the detailed video, it's very helpful.
love this guide brother! thank you!
One of the best guides I've seen. Only thing is the easy cast option in the setting doesn't exist or I can find it even though I've looked exactly where the vid says.
Even with toublek staff would you advise 15 yards vs 21 yards. Becomes 50 damage vs a bucketload of crit + 2.4% increased crit damage. Also feels like uptime on spells and being stationary is much higher when youre out that far
Ya no point going this build without being as max range. Plus when you do with all that crit from toublek staff, you can put points into wisdom/perc instead of dex
@@chea7z913good luck getting healed 😂
Loving the guides Whelps, I was wondering if you could make a guide explaining how traits work?
thx for the guide and sorry for asking but, 1 snipe full charged is around 8k for me which is the dps of 2 and half skills, why is not worth since in t1 we have cooldowns all over the place during bosses?
I use snipe, and many builds Ive seen do it too. Mine hits for 13k, its better than all these skills
hey whelps! amazing video! when did you start to level up your third weapon? Right now I play Bow Dagger but in one of your videos you said, that you leveled up dagger as a 3rd weapon. I would like to play Staff/Bow/dagger too - just to have the freedom. But when is a good point to start leveling the 3rd weapon? only after the 2 mains are 16/16? what do you think?
Love this thank you! Can I ask by how much is talus staff worth it PvP? I have a max mama one and was thinking using it versus selling it 🤔
Hey Whelps! Amazing guide! Quick question though... Can you make an Arena PvP build? I know that flash/blitz/flash isn't usually used with bow/staff in arena. Correct me if i'm wrong though.. I know it's a new mode.
Hi I really enjoying following your build! But can you update the gear with traits please?
Thanks for this build is insane bro!
Wow too much great information ;) thank you very much !!!
thank you so much for your work whelps
i wonder wich guardian you are using when you do bossing and everything its not mentionned ?
Stheno
hello there ! always using your guides since I started the game ! so thanks a lot and keep up the good work ! I want to ask something about this video, will be appreciate it if u can answer me; in the link you gave us for skills, items and such, in "Passive Skill" part, you are using "Mana Amp" but in video while teaching us, you are using "Earth's Blessing". So I am confused, which one should we use for bossing? Thanks again !
Mana amp sorry I must have been using diff passive cuz keep switching for test purpose, follow questlog
@@Whelps Thank you very much !
SUPER helpful thank you!
nice video bro, thanks for the content
Love the video and love the guide. Been enjoying the game myself really much. Wanted to know do you think it is still viable without high focus?
what happened to the blue sets? I was going to make bow/staff alt and was recommended to view your guide/questlog. But its missing I don't plan on going any further then blues.
Mom, TheWhelps just uploaded!!
I was using maxroll guide but the build feels wanky i will try this instead. Any sort of recommendation which skills are priority to lvl up? thanks
great video whelp! i was doing the marker blunder where i had 5 points on extra marker XDXD. i like hellfire rain its looks flashy when doing the opener but for sure ice spears seem like a more comfy rotation
Hey thank you a lot for this video! It helped me a lot, and clreaded a lot of confusions. Although what I'm also interessted in, you've poster a (Machine Gun Staff /LB Combo) about 2 months ago in a Short of yours, how is that skilled?
thats just without meteor and focused firebomb which is outdated and less dmg
@Whelps awe what a bummer, that build seemed quite fun I liked the fact that it was shooting fats projectiles.
Thanks for the tips!
So some of the BiS gear doesn't have any trais for the T1 build on Questlog, I'm guessing that's intentional?
thank you so much for this guide Whelps!
My Inner Piece skill recovers mana like 20% , is it because of lvl of the skill? I usually do Nature's blessing into Inner Piece , but it recovers like 20% mana
Love the guide. Can you also showcase aoe farming? I'm only lvl41 trying to finish up but grouping mobs seems so difficult.
Mobs that are ranged don't group. I just pull the melee mobs to the ranged mobs then aoe them all down.
Great vid thanks dude
have you tried running deadly marker bullseye specialization and then going strafing x1 -> zephyrs knock -> 1 quick skill -> strafing x1 -> zephyr -> strafing -> quick filler -> zephyr? it makes the rotation insanely tight but getting 3x 8 stack zephyrs seems quite good dmg. With natures blessing whirlpool it's even 8x bullseye and 8x gale stacks every zephyr.
In previous videos you said that its better working on a pvp build rater than a pve, so i should farm for the staff/bow T1 PvP Early/mid or the T1 PvP Early game?
Thanks man it s the most useful guide
Appreciate the info. Do you mind covering PvE AoE skills too?
How come you got 6 quick slot sets when i only got 3 ? Nice video ill defenetly try the build
Something I've wondered... what is the rationale for how skills are ordered on the skillbar? I tend to favor ordering the skills based on my primary rotation, but I often see others do not do this.
@TheWhelps Could you make a guide for the ultimate pvp xbows/dagger build?
Nice video, what about small scale/arena pvp?
Heyy! Sorry to ask, but could you type the rotation on aoe farm on your website? Like which order you would use them? You changed the spells on the bar earlier on ghe wbsite and now i'm kinda lost haha! I use the Boss skills for everything haha 😭
Question, for a bow/staff Is Better evasion or Endurance? If evasion, Better magic/ranged or melee?
Another amazing video!
Hi thanks for the guide very helpful, I would like to ask how do you to get this much quick slots bcz I have only 3 on the EU server
thx mmy friend, still the best for the community
Yo sorry for asking this in your guide, but since you know a lot about the game i wanted to know. i did like and suscribe but i wanted to know any recomendation for healer bow/wand build pve pvp? or any content creator you can recommend, thank you so much
When you're showing flash wave for PVP rotation, is that your KR character? Never seen flashwave deal so much damage before..? I am guessing thats on KR servers with higher tier gear?
Hi,
Thx for vidéo :)
What about stats DEX, STR, etc….
And weapon mastery ?
Thx
is bow/staff great for farming? also i wanted to ask about that tier list vid koon talked about gs/daggers never getting pve runs or people don't like them are they really that bad in late game pve?
What rotation are you using for open world pve? Like for contracts and stuff.
Meteor is only purple lvl 1 so its not high damage, what do you think of this same rotation except with ensnaring arrow (plus passive that gives tons of crit on bound/shackled) instead of meteor? Shackle works on boss, so that's a lot of crit rate for a lot of your other abilities?
Will you be doing updates to the build as new updates and content drops etc?
Can we take off Infernal Meteor? Or really needed for burning stack?
High cast time... Not a good dmg either... And most of the time boss moving around and I miss the shot 😂
Thank you for the Video.
How do you get 6 Quick Slot Sets?
I only have 3 ingame :/
Love the videos, i think alot of people are confused from the mobile version of the website. Theres an add tha pops up on the bottom of the screen that covers the tabs. If you x it out however, you can find the tabs everyones missing. This assumes your not using a computer tho. Upvote so people can see.
I just started playing today, should I save my skill growth material for skills I unlock to follow your builds or is it ok to use them on early level skills? I'm F2P for now.
Thank you Whelps :) can you do a pvp guide for smal scale pvp? - Conflict boss figth - tipps and arena pvp? bow/staff
Hello mister Whelps, ive been using your Talandre skill build for PvE, and found I like it more, is there any reason its worse or better than the one you talk about here, or is it just an alternative, and what is the priority when it comes to Limit Test, and what skill to reset, thank you!
wow really? it must feel really slow and clunky haha anyway if you gonna keep using it you wanna reset snipe with limit test
Hey there, I watched the guide video first and checked the written guide, but I'm still a bit unsure about the stats of the build as they tended to vary (one with tons of Str and one with almost no Str at all for example) in the written guide. I really like the look of this build so would you be kind enough to tell me what my stats should look like?
Hi Whelps I'm relatively new to the PvP area of the game and I'm wondering when or how blocking works as a bow/staff player?
When do you talk about pvp and pve, a time stamp would be nice
and i check the questlog, the build in there diffirent from the one you show in the video i think
which passives you recommend for your pve boss build
You can explain also the Right equip to use ? Or link a page build for equip?
I have seen a lot of people taking Ensnaring Arrow and Decisive Sniping instead of Chain Lightning and Inferno Wave. What‘s your reasoning for taking more Staff skills instead?
Ensnare is waste of GCD, sniping charging is too long for low dmg, you could be pressing 3-4 insta cast dmg skills instead of ensnare>snipe
@@Whelpsthanks, I‘ve been spamming death abyss all day and the cast time of sniping got really annoying. Gonna give this a try.
That trash maxroll guide is telling them to do that.
@@thenightingale7405yeah most max roll guides are bad
@@thenightingale7405 I think its a bit harsh calling it trash lol. It has some really great points. No guide can be 100% correct, because this game simply requires you to change stuff up based on content. Ensnaring + decisive sniping make sense in some scenarios and dont make sense in others.
thx for the video i just looked at your build and i am still confused about what is the difference between Evasion - Endurance and Hit Chance - Critical Hit Chance which is better
This has tempted me to switch from staff/dagger
Hello great bow staff player !!!
Im confuse idk which build pvp bis focus T1 or max range melee evasion
Sorry new player here - I have a question on why you use the bow as the primary weapon. If I understand correct the weapon mastery skills are only active for your primary weapon choice, so in this case the bow. Since you are mostly using staff skills for damage, would equipping staff primarily be better to unlock that tree?
using staff skills uses staff mastery ua-cam.com/video/fyLmxBRtsGo/v-deo.htmlsi=7oQBH_bhig-cZKrP
Hii, ive been following your guides for a while now and love how detailed and helpful they are.
Is it possible to do a Healer pve/pvp build? so far i only see dps
Which is better for bow staff endurance or Evasion and why?
Hello Whelps, do you think Aelon Bow can be used in staff/bow build? I'm doing a dex build.
omnipotent books are limited, just wondering which one should we lvl up first ... does the damage increase if u lvl up flash arrow first? or just lvl blitz for the CD (for pvp)
what about mobbing do i use the same setup?