SHE-HULK Star BLAMES SEXIST FANS for Show's FAILURE!
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She-Hulk star Tatiana Maslany won't stop talking about SHE-HULK, because people won't keep asking about it. And yet, it always comes down to the fans who were soooo sexist, they destroyed it. Here's why she (and everyone else who defends this show): is full of it.
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i honestly watched the show cause of daredevil, i would have skipped it if the character wasnt in it, i didnt think it was sexist to woman but i did think that there were a lot of stereotypical characters, felt like i was watching a cw show and not a good one
I love the fact the show pushed back against the "M She U" incels. I disagree with 99.9% of your takes but go off and get paid.
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god you are so cute :3
They need to stop hiring such abrasive actresses. This stuff is getting or of control.
Not the bad writing. Not the bad CGI. Not ignoring the lore and stories they could have used and referenced. Not the fact that the show runner and writers had no clue how to write a law drama/comedy with superheroes. Not the fact that they literally and happily bashed men. Not the fact that the main character was unlikable. It's OUR fault. Riiiiiiight.
Not the fact that they're lying about caring about being so diverse, when it's really all about the marketing....
To be honest, I have no clue who she is, I've never seen her in anything worth watching, which is just as well, i doubt if she'll ever be in anything for a while, so I guess she won't be missed! 🇬🇧
@@HarrisMiller-qw6xh My thoughts, exactly.
BINGO! and who cares about what these adult pretenders say anyway
Thank you so much!
The fans accepted the She Hulk character and comics for decades! If the fans didn’t accept the show…. the problem is with the show!!
The MCU's new number one rule is never admit to incompetence and failure. It's always the fans' fault!
That's Disney's number one rule (check out Lucas Arts).
@@carlflaherty2215 Yes!
It’s so BS when women say that men don’t like super hero women. Take the first Wonder Woman movie for example. She was bad ass, and humble. Not afraid to show flaws and men love her. She hulk the comic is awesome. She hulk in the Incredible Hulk animated series was cool. But this show was utter trash. I’m glad it was cancelled. These people need to look themselves in the mirror and take full accountability
They're a film studio. Film studios don't do that.
@@WRDend That would be why Hollywood is drowning in box-office bombs. 💣
Jessica said she made a show to troll the trolls, so she admits to wasting everyone's time, she admits to wasting Marvel's money. and she admits to wasting good characters, making them garbage
And she wears a blouse with knives on it for an interview on she-hulk 😂
@@siunami6432 meaning she planned to literally butcher the show
@@Chikararyoku lol
They even admitted that they made She-Hulk terrible on purpose. They wanted to piss off the fans just so they can mock them and call them misogynistic.
Sounds like the best way to go out of business the fastest to me.
@@shadf7902 Nope because if you didn't know companies with ESG scores, meaning they shove woke BS into their stuff, get free money handed to them by bigger companies. As in companies MUCH bigger than Disney, give Disney free money to shove woke sh*t into their stuff.
@@shadf7902 Also this isn't She Hulk related but Doctor Who is also a show ruined by Wokeness and apparently British taxes go to funding that show, so they don't ever have to make money because they steal it.
If I were Disney I'd sue these idiots
@@zezeti2246 Disney ARE the idiots who purposefully hired them. You obviously have no clue
i blame the sexist she-hulk writers/actors for making shit characters.
She-Hulk writers room: "How can we fail the Bechdel Test, on a per episode basis?"
STOP HIRING WOKE FEMN8TS WRITERS
What I don't understand is how Disney expects to win a fight with their customers? That doesn't make any sense.
I am not sure they see the average person watching their shows as customers.
It's because they are so far infested with all this DEI woke BS that they will continue to refuse to admit that they are wrong and what they are making is garbage. So obviously, the problem has to be the audience and not them right??
They would prefer to talk down to their customers and guilt them into submission
Disney are somehow laundering all of this money. I just cannot figure out how.
@@TheJimmyClip Ask Blackrock or Vanguard. They may know something , i guess...
I guess Tatiana has never heard of Jessica Jones or Agent Carter. Two Marvel shows with female leads that were very positively received with main characters that are beloved by the fans.
The difference between those shows and the DisneyPlus female led shows is that they were actually well written and didn't use gender to ignore criticism.
Even more impressive is Agent Carter directly tackling sexism against her in the show. The guys literally treat her like a secretary and are condescending and everything else. Yet it works because it fits the setting they don't call the audience sexist.
Hell, the women on Agents of Shield too. THe inmates are running the asylum. No wonder nothing good gets done. It's all about the politics behind the show these days. "Who needs compelling stories and characters? We're DIVERSE so that makes it good!"
Feminist who complain never pay attention to the female characters people like😂😂
@captwrecked Well said. Daisy Johnson, Melinda May and Jemma Simmons are some of the best female characters ever.
If men like it it's toxic
What makes no sense is that a lot of people who hated She Hulk probably liked the comic book as well as liked Tatiana's last Sci Fi show "Orphan Black". Meaning it wasn't the character, the actress or the acting that was the problem. It was the writing and cheap effects.
I loved Orphan Black and when Tatiana was chosen to be She-Hulk, I was super excited. That lasted until about 10 minutes into the show.
Notice how they never actually defend the show on its own merit. They just go right into the adhoms as if that's gonna convince anyone to think otherwise.
That’s right. They do not praise the show or offer reasons why we should watch. It is as though they expect failure and can only rebuke the disinterested or critical folks when it happens. And it is not only the She-Hulk writers who are like this.
What merits?
As if the show is good by default.
WORD!
They thought it would be smart to piss people off and push them away.......to get them to watch? These 2 things can not happen simultaneously.
The secret to Ripley is that it's all about character. The role was written for Ripley to be a guy but Ridley Scott changed the character to a woman without altering any dialogue from the script. Ripley is all about character. That's what stories need more than ever. Great characters. It's been 45 years since Alien hit the big screen and Ripley is still talked about with reverence.
I’ve been a massive Alien/s fan since I was 7 or 8. Tbh, it’s a SUPER feminist movie…but in the best ways. In bonus features, RScott talks about how horror of the time had women as victims of violence and r*pe…and he actively set out to make a horror film to terrify men in the same way, but with a female as the hero. As you said, the character was there and important. But all the subtleties and politics I just mentioned weren’t rammed down our throats (pun definitely intended), it hid in plain sight. The results were a killer horror/sci-fi and character that people of ALL backgrounds have loved for decades. It’s truly a “how it’s done”.
Everyone loves Black Widow, her sister especially, Florence Pugh, Scarlett Witch, Wonder Woman, etc. It's not sexism, it's shitty writing, political agendas and disrespecting the fans. Excellent point about the Hulk not having his own solo project yet.
Also, introducing Hulks son the way they did was BS. What a terrible way to introduce such an important character. "Oh by the way, here's Skaar y'all." It's like being introduced to everyone after someone pours trash all over you. Not a great first impression.
Great video as always Snarky!.
FYI, Universal Studios still holds the movie rights to Hulk (and Namor?) and have first look option or something like that. Sorry, I forgot the lingo to use. Anyway, if they make a solo Hulk movie, Universal gets the majority of the $ from it. That's why he's regulated to supporting character.
The worst thing was his design, if Hulk hadn't said it out loud I never would've guessed that was supposed to be Skaar
@@cahe6161 It's like they tried to make him into a Samoan looking dude. Like Roman Reigns or some shit.
Yep. 💯
I forgot that even happened until you mentioned it. Hopefully this series can be relegated to non-canon and all copies burnt, maybe they can then introduce Skaar properly and not make him look so, erm, I don't even know what to call it!!
Thank you! We men need women like you to address poorly written shows. If we criticize them, we can be unfairly labeled sexist. We all just want well-written shows with strong female characters. There are many examples in books and shows, and I definitely admire them. If some men appear sexist in comic book or superhero fandoms, it doesn't represent all men. Comic creators and novelists would likely not create female characters if most men were truly sexist. We need women in our lives, and it's unfair to assume all men hate women. If a man in your past was sexist, (which I apologize and no woman deserves to be treated that way) please know that most men are not like that. Attributing one bad experience to all men is simply not fair. One sample of a population can never fairly represent the whole population. I love women! Please don't hate us, and let's all enjoy well-written shows together, regardless of the characters' genders
The fact we never got a proper second Hulk movie with the Leader as the villain infuriates me. God forbid Universal actually do stuff with the character in tandem with Marvel when all they’ve done is sit on the license and do nothing with it.
Universal has a weird issue with their IP's. They don't want to use their IP and have it fail. They don't want others using their IP and succeeding making them look like idiots.
Snarky Jay, don't let She-Hulk stay in your head rent-free. They are not worth it
To be honest, I'm glad more women are calling out BS like She Hulk. It safe to say that marvel have virtually no idea how to write a decent female character.
@@1milliondogsIt makes me scared of what they'll do with Vennesa Kirby's character in Fantastic Fart
It’s not rent free if we watch.
@@To.me.my.X-Men.97 She will be rude to Reed and act like a victim and be made team leader. If Echo, She Hulk, Sylvie, Valkyrie, and Cassie Lang are any indication, she will be a girl boss, her and Shala Bal.
"Every month, my sleep paralysis demon, otherwise known as Disney+'s 'She-Hulk', re-emerges from Hell to torture me for just a few nights..."
That one got me. 🤣 SOLID open.
They just released the second season of Velma! Good luck!
There is an old saying
"You can wake someone up who is actually sleeping".
"But you can't wake someone up who is acting like they are sleeping".
* they’re
* their
but they're already woken.
When a seller *BLAMES THE PAYING CUSTOMER FOR NOT BUYING THEIR GARBAGE,* it only goes to show the failure of the seller. If only they were smart enough to LEARN from their failure and make stuff the paying customer DID WANT!
She Hulk should never have been made.
Not the way they did it.
Fr😢
Honestly I love Hulk he is my fave hero but we didn't need a She hulk series lol
Lol Agree marvel is so mid ran
Agreed! Just a sloppily made show
Spot on, Jay! I was actually looking forward to She-Hulk. I envisioned a perfect balance of Ally McBeal and superhero. Unfortunately, we got a horribly written series where Jennifer Walters isn’t afforded any character growth. She remains insecure and a pushover when not Hulked out from episode 1 to the finale. Very disappointing to say the least :(
What bullshit! Has this actress ever seen the interview with cast of Batman & Robin? That movie bombed HAAAARRDD and, yet there is not one single bad thing said about the fans. Chris O'Donnell even said something like "I don't think we were really ready to do that one." Schumacher even took some of that blame as well and even apologized for disappointing the fans. They fucking owned it and took responsibility for it. These actors today really need to stop thinking every project they do is Oscar/Emmy worthy and take some responsibility. How arrogant are people today? They are just never at fault.
You are right. A number of these elites are arrogant today.
I really like your point about how it's not just sexist against men but women too. Every woman character in it is such an unlikable arsehole. It was a predominantly female writing staff too so it really does feed into the trope that "women just don't like women".
Perfectly said, Ms. Jay. Everyone always mentions Sarah Connor and Ellen Ripley as girl bosses done right, but how about Buffy Summers, Aeryn Sun, Kara Thrace, Katniss Everdeen, Snarky Jay...
I tried to finish watching chanting the Mantra "it's a sitcom, it's a sitcom, it's a poorly written sitcom, ah crap I'm done...."
“…the PROUD owner of female parts.” GENIUS Jay. This will rival M She U as a based battle cry 🙏❤️
Thank you for mentioning 'Jessica Jones'! I think that show is the perfect example. Female showrunner, mostly female writers. Back when they used to care about what matters to interesting story/characters! I watched the whole show and I loved most of it! Jessica was even allowed to have positive interaction with a kid she's not related to/never known which is very avoided for female characters lately. These people obsessed with dodging accountability need to talk to folk like you with well-put counter points. Their echo chamber must be broken!
You nailed it girl!!! The show was not for ratings but for venting anger at men and women. Bad writing was the hallmark and like you said it was ON purpose. What a concept and it DID NOT WORK!!!!!!
Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, Hit Girl, Furiosa, any action movie that Michelle Yeoh is in, The Bride (Kill Bill 1 & 2), Trinity. All bad ass women
Plus Xena, Buffy, all Bad Ass women led shows that weren't misandrist sh*te.
They forget that alot of these female characters have survived since their inception because the fanbase, no matter the ratio of males to females..... actually like them... 😒
Hell the recent comic run of She-Hulk was pretty good, I just think most people was expected Law&Order: MCU and not Sex in The City.
Best thing that came out of that show was Madisynn, not only is she pretty but had me rolling when she played off of "Wongers"...😂
The women of Marvel comics are hugely popular. They just need to have them do something actually cool. It's not our fault the studios are doing all female properties incredibly half assed. And yeah great point about JJ. It was some of the best MCU content at the time.
Until you said it I forgot Echo had even been a show...
I'm gonna have to watch New Rockstars again to understand what even happened there
I didn't watch it, I heard it was crap, keep up the great content ,have a great weekend Jay, take care 😊
Everyone loves Mariko and Fuji from Shogun, strong female characters.
Just like every main female character in Yellowstone and it's spin-offs!
I would absolutely watch a show with Mariko resurrected into the Marvel universe as long as they didn't ruin her character with "The message" and let her be awesome instead.
Really? I couldn't stand Mariko... of course that could be because I read the book and saw the much more faithful 80s miniseries that didn't change her for modern audiances
I didn't watch She-Hulk and no it had nothing to do with women which is a worn-out excuse by people on the left I didn't watch it because it wasn't She-Hulk. I did my research months before the show premiered and when I found out that the writer Gao 1. Knew nothing about She-Hulk in an interview and 2. Did the show to bash MCU fans who complained about the current phase of the MCU. I instantly knew that the show would fail and decided not to waste my time on it especially since it was only made to bash me because I am a man. I also find it hilarious how I'm told that a project was not "made for me" but then when it fails somehow it's my fault for not supporting it? Why isn't anyone from the now-dead She-Hulk series asking women why they didn't support the series that was made for them? Here we are in 2024 and people in entertainment still haven't learned from 2016's Ghostbusters attacking us isn't going to get us to support your movies/tv series. We don't want political ideology shoved down our throats take a page from the 2023 Super Mario Bros movie just give us good entertainment, please.
I definitely think that the reception of the recent female lead projects from Marvel is due to sexism. But it's sexism from Marvel's side, who can't seem to bring themselves to approach making a female lead project the same way they approach a male lead project. They can't even tell the same story... Most of the male lead films in the MCU share the same story. An arrogant or somewhat selfish person learning humility and the value of self sacrifice for the good of others, most simply phrased in the Doctor Strange movie quote "It's not about you".
The majority of the female lead projects also share the same story, but a different one from the men. They're all about a woman learning to stand on her own and not let anyone else define her or tell her what to do. This one is most prominent in the She-Hulk show, where everything revolves around Jen so much that even the main villain of the show wants to her only her and no one else.
The reason people aren't liking the female story is not because it's about women. It's because they want to see a story about a hero, and learning not to care about anyone else isn't very heroic... Marvel just doesn't want to make their female heroes be actual heroes...
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Happy Friday Eve Jay!!
When you stop and think about it, it’s wild how quickly the mcu took a nosedive
As a wee lad growing up I remember buying She Hulk comics and getting dirty looks from the kid at the grocery store check out (yes comics were sold at the corner grocery store, shocking!). Billy would give me shit, not because I was buying She Hulk, but because it was a Marvel comic in amongst all my DC books! Billy about had a stroke when I bought my first Captain America. How dare I disrespect Superman like that. Ah, yes, the good old days.
Now get off my lawn!
When Netflix started the Marvel shows I was sure JJ was going to be the worst one. DD and Punisher was better but it by no means was the worst one. It was better than the second season of Luke and light years ahead of Iron Fist. Plus all around it was just good. Until Punisher came out I saw a lot of people say it was second best.
This felt like a breath of fresh air. Watching she hulk with my ex felt like I was always be attacked for no reason while my ex wouldn’t even notice when she was being so offensive. I felt like I was going insane.
It’s kind of wild how we live in a world where men can be accused of not liking media with women in one breath and then accused of liking a game like Stellar Blade a bit too much in the next.
I’ve never trolled on performers. And Disney’s live-action She-Hulk is nothing like nor recognizable of the She-Hulk I’ve read in the comics.
You are a well spoken, On Point, commentator. Well Done, you're not just a beautiful face. Thank you for speaking so eloquently on the subject.
Agreed.. with She-Hulk, I was waiting for her character growth, humility, realizing how Hulk was a Hero who deserved respect, her hero journey, her saving someone as She-Hulk.... we got None of that... I blame Feige for letting this happen. Where was he on this project?
The mere mention of She Hulk makes me want to binge watch Velma to stop the burning in my eyes.
Universal has owned the movie rights to a solo Hulk movie until recently. That's why there has never been a solo Hulk project.
Same with Namor, right? It's been awhile since I heard anything about the rights situation.
@@thatHARVguy Yes, same with Namor. I know as far Hulk is concerned, the rights deal with Universal might have expired last year and reverted back to Marvel. There are rumblings that a Hulk movie maybe be in the plans.
Make a show just to piss on fans of the genre and then get upset when they don't like being pissed on. SMFH.
Universal owns the Hulk so the agreement they had with Marvel is The Hulk has to appear with other characters in the MCU, he cannot have a stand alone movie or show. Not sure if that contract still stands.
You are so right about the woke industry being like "The hive mind", it reminds me of how The Borg say... "You will be assimilated" ...They totally ignore people devalue them if they don't support them. It reminds me of dictators who rule by supressing free thought and individuality. Some might think that's an overdramatic simplication of things but I say that it is dangerous to ignore the signs / red flags and allow them to steamroll people's opinions. It also reminds me of two other quotes... "Those that do not learn from history's mistakes are destined to repeat them" ...and... "All that evil needs to succeed is for gpod men (people) to do nothing" ...For example: many people disagreed with Adolph Hitler's policies after he became Chancelor of Germany in 1933 (6 years before he invaded Poland, which is when England finally declared war); in fact many German citizens said that they didn't say anything because they didn't think it would go that far... If they had not been afraid to stand up and speak out against him sooner (and if Englands Prime Minister Neville Chamberlin would have had the courage to say "No, we will not allow you to do this" when Hitler claimed Austria as part of Germany or when he invaded Qekslovatkia and Paris (allowing Hitler to take over 3 countries without any arguement) then he would have been stopped before he could build up his military and WW2 may not have happened and millions of people wouldn't have died... If ONLY more people had spoken out against Hitler sooner.
How many people are going to stay silent and allow these people to continue to ignore us? ...WE THE PEOPLE are letting the entertainment industry to bully us into being silent and they are determined to "assimulate" us into their "hive mind".
Mark Ruffalo as Smart Hulk makes me want to jump in front of a incoming subway train😔The decision of giving us a Smart Hulk instead of giving us THE HULK FIGHTING THANOS IN ENDGAME IS AN INSULT
100% agree with you. I had the same complaint for horrible writing. I was 9 when She-Hulk first comic was released. Been a fan since. Like you I was sorely disappointed with the series. Due to horrible writing. I was shocked to see people trying poorly to defend the show.
Yes I blame myself for continuing watching She-Hulk when I know damn well I really didn’t enjoy it. The only reason I watched it because I saw Daredevil was going to be in it 😭. I’ll give She-Hulk for two things 1 that Megan Thee Stallion Cameo (Celebrity crush) 2 I got to laugh and hear Snarky Jay reaction of this show 🤣. Iconic time that was 😂
I watched She-Hulk season 1, every episode. I thought the show was amazing. The writers talked about the show, and the show didn't even follow what the writers said the show would be. Each episode was supposed to be it's own isolated story, but they weren't isolated. The main character was a whiny, self entitled victim from the first to the last episode, who was somehow incredibly intelligent and incredibly ignorant at the same time. The 4th wall breaks were an absolute masterpiece of how not to do a 4th wall break. You had no idea when they were going to happen, and you regret watching the show when they did happen. The 4th wall breaks were just instances of the main character whining about a situation they voluntary put themselves through because they have no principles at all. Hearing someone say "I really don't want to take advantage of my new powers" who then immediately takes advantage of their new powers, only to complain about it in 4th wall break is an amazing example of what modern feminism is. This is a show I hope future generations can grow on, where a college professor has the students watch an episode, and then have the students explain why the writing is so mind boggling bad.
Explaining how she is an expert in controlling her anger to a man that watched his dad murder his mom, got turned into a giant rage monster, and is hunted by the father of the woman he loves, but it's harder being a girl.
Brand new, first view of your channel. AWESOME 🤣🤣🤣 Loved it. I’ll definitely tune in frequently 👏👏👏
Black Widow
Furiosa
Katniss Everdeen
Wonder Woman (the first film)
Gamora.
Blue Eyed Samurai (Mizu)
Are great examples of well written female badasses.
Should probably go blame the writers. Hell I don’t even really put it on the actors. Instead it’s the writers, and people in charge of it all
Thank you for tearing into these ludicrous comments! Modern Hollywood wants to make poorly written shows and then hide from accountability by saying the problem is with the fandom! Great work @Snarkyjay 👍🏿
Last year, one of my students asked me if I had watched "She Hulk." I told him that "watched" was a strong word....
Damn! 😂 You are insanely well put together inside and out. Not to "objectify" you, but you seem like a woman who can take a compliment. 😂 Great video!
I like how she said she's better at controlling her anger better than Bruce banner
Your beginning line lured me in cause I get sleep paralysis. It doesn't keep me up, it's quite the opposite, cause I am mentally awake, but my body will not move(paralysis). I do know someone that can't sleep with insomnia.
Unlike many of the guys on the Left, we actually love and appreciate women.
I love how they gaslight everything by making it about sexism. They blatantly ignore the reality that She-Hulk and every other character, including the important female characters, in the MCU are preexisting, built in, already created - and in most cases - already popular characters in the comics. Popular with men who make up the majority of the fan base. So make that fact and what people working for Disney are saying make sense. Men don’t like female characters who were popular WITH MEN in the comics. Okay. And that demonstrates the ugliest side of this. The nasty lack of appreciation. What they are doing is building off the success and hard work of those in the comic book industry that created these characters and popularized them, as well as the fans that bought and supported these things for decades. Without all that the She-Hulk TV show wouldn’t even exist. The MCU would never have existed. And, yes, the success, the very existence of that industry, was primarily driven by men. It’s almost like they want to take that success and transfer it to themselves without the pesky creativity and work. “Underlying sexism” is not the problem (I don’t think it exists in any substantial amount). These actors and directors underlying sense of entitlement is, however, a problem.they really do seem to believe that they are owed success. Maybe, just maybe, if they stopped thinking and acting like they are owed our time and money, maybe they’d start concentrating on doing things to actually earn it. And maybe if they stopped attempting to shame and gaslight half the population they would have more success. And isn’t it sad that these leading feminist writer/actor/directer’s trying to “shatter the patriarchy”, speak for women everywhere, and be role models for female youth growing up in the world are doing so by being gaslighting, blame-shifting, narcissistic, demanding, self-entitled and manipulative. Way to tear down those stereotypes …. by literally embodying them.
After 2022 the mindsets of general thinking for most people just stopped.
You make a valid point with the original hulk never really gets flushed out. I agree, hulk & she-hulk comics have been around for a long time. No excuse.
L-sided feminist nonsense.
Fans, always hope to receive what the comics brought us. Seeing that in a motion picture is wild.
After Endgame. Nope
A sleeper hit IMO that I'm glad I stumbled upon months ago was 'No One Will Save You'. Starred a female, in fact it's for the most part basically her throughout the entire movie, no real supporting cast almost at all. The movie was fricken amazing, absolutely loved it. The thought of it being led by her didn't even cross my mind, it was just a bad*ss movie. My point, when it's a good, successful, a well written movie/TV show with female lead: silence, when a movie/show fails with female lead: uproar, s*xism, haters, cheers.
I just want to say, when i was a nerdy young man instead of a nerdy old man, I loved the She Hulk comic. I was one of few,which is probably why the original comic was axed by Marvel, brought back and then axed again. So the choice in itself was an odd one to bring her to disney+. I was excited to watch it. I last approximately 15 minutes I think? and that includes a trip to the bathroom. Everything you said about the show could very well be true, i wouldn't know though because the dialogue was so bad I just turned it off and never went back. I should be angry, but Disney/ Sony..etc. have ruined a lot of great superheroes over the last few years ( which included my favorite X-man, Wolverine). Such a shame. P.S. you are absolutely spot on about how they sidelined the Hulk, one of the most fascinating characters Marvel has ever created.
still think the second season could have worked, with better writters, real courts scenes and an sctual comedy, also the 200 million models can be reused + fixed (smaller details)
Strange, because if men were just downvoting and boycotting any movies with female leads, you would expect to see ALL female lead movies to have low ratings/views.
However, what we see is that some female lead movies get good audience reviews, and some get bad audience reviews, which is what you would predict to see based on the hypothesis that people were voting based on the QUALITY of the movies/series.
I had high hopes for it, same with Echo. The 1st few episodes were good but then they got sexist themselves and not in the way She-Hulk should have been. And it was barely a She-Hulk show, it was an actor mocking the fanbase that she already knew was going to happen. Echo was awesome the 1st few episodes, then they botched it by making the action packed series into a tv drama. Nothing about them being women, just bad writing. Marvels was a few drafts away from feeling like a real MCU movie, but thats been most MCU movies/shows lately. Again nothing about them being women, we loved Widow, Sif, Jane Foster, Hela, Ancient One, Pepper, and all women except maybe Carol Danvers before Endgame. 1 women out of all of them is not sexist. We hated most males if they didn't hit the mark, like the elves in Thor 2 or Whiplash or Ultron for not being Ultron. Wow 3 men and 1 women. Carol is understandable cuz she had the memory wipe thing. But the 3 men nope, no reason but writing and acting. If we men are sexists its agains men, not women.
Woah!...savage take-down Jay!! Beautifully and skillfully executed. Sweeeeeet! ;-)
Don't call me sexist for terrible writing, call me it for the two women I just slapped for saying She Hulk was an amazing show....
That is not sexism as well
I'm still waiting for the Madisynn and Wong romantic comedy to ever get made and produced
Oh snap! She said that, and didn’t know that she would make you “HULK OUT” on her?! Some people just got NO sense. 😆
I was intrigued when they cast Tatiana. She was excellent in Orphan Black. Are they seriously complaining that men didn't enjoy their series that was specifically written to irritate those same men?
"Don't watch our show, it's not made for you!" "Ok, I wont then..." "It's your fault our show failed!"
I agree with you, No my she-hulk( Animated Series )
1000000% agree with you. I watched this show with hopes that it wouldn't be as bad as people were predicting. I watched the first 3 or 4 episodes as it came out, and was amazed at how bad it was. It was the worst thing ever committed to color imagery, and I couldn't imagine how something this bad made it through concept, writing, changes, storyboarding, production, post-production and special effects without SOMEONE in the seats of power over this garbage making it stop or saying return to concept. I only watched commentary after watching my 3 or 4 episodes trying to give it a chance. The commentary was so much more entertaining. :)
They intentionally made a bad show to troll fans and then blame sexism for getting cancelled?! Disney executives need to be replaced from the top down.
All I can say is that I remember when I first heard about She-Hulk as a kid or a teen, more accurately. Early nineties, when comics were just really really good. Now, I will confess I never read any of hers, or many other comics for that matter, but I had a buddy who always told me about the "good books" to read etc. I have always thought She-Hulk was cool in that she had a real job and people knew her identity and she was hot. That was the extent of my She-Hulk knowledge. So, I was actually excited to learn about her character through this show . . .
Yea, I can only imagine she is NOTHING like this in the comics, or she wouldn't have survived the oversexed nineties. It's a shame Marvel and Disney felt the need to attack people like me instead of giving me a great show with a great, strong character. Instead, as you said, she whined the ENTIRE time! Anyway, happy Alien Day, love me some Ripley!
The other excuse I see being thrown around is "We worked so hard on it and gave it our all so SHUT UP IT'S GREAT!" Just because you work hard on something doesn't mean it's automatically good.
A common characteristic of narcissists is never accepting responsibility for anything and blaming everyone else.
Can't give my opinion on the show because it did not appear I am the target audience for it, which this just seems to reaffirm.
The color of that dress is awesome though, fluorescent colors look good.
I am a man and I loved she Hulk I thought it was different and funny would love to see more episodes
Your amount of disappointment and snark is right on my level. Love it.
If they were going to try a She-Hulk show they should have cast Snarky Jay. Snarky would make a funnier and more satirical She-Hulk; much better than Tatiana could ever give us. That’s what I think anyway. Of course, with that writing crew, the show never had a chance. They had no experience at law, no experience at comedy and no experience at comic book lore, yeah, that sounds like the perfect writers for this show.
You nailed it perfectly Jay. Everything you said is exactly how we all feel about the show. I don’t see how anyone actually liked that show. Anyone who liked that show are those who agree with the politics the show spewed out, hate men and normal women; women who want to be everything that the main character of Jennifer was portrayed as.
Any woman like Jen are pathetic. Being a hero and saving unfortunate people is a waste of time, but her 9 to 5 job is her identity and more important than family, friends and even taking time to save someone from injustice. Everything was centered around Jennifer, her wants, her needs and anything else that interfered she had no time for. What a pitiful portrayal of any person. Jennifer was the most shallow and self-centered character I have ever seen and we were supposed to relate to her or admire her?
Sorry Hollywood, give us Ellen Ripley and Sarah Conners back! Damn, we really miss females characters that even men looked up to.
She Hulk probably defended the Green Goblin's words in her defense. That she avoid becoming a heroine as a way of never being hated for no reason. If true though then she should have understood that Norman was more wrong than right in the original Spider Man flick
The only thing these so called writers got right about she hulk is she slept around a lot. It's not bc they read the source material, it's bc of feminism. Where modern feminism tells females to not be in a monogamous relationship, to hook up with as many men you can. Even though they claim to hate us men.
Great video. It's frustrating when they ruin an otherwise good character. Jen could have been a major player in the MCU going forward. Now we're stuck with this incarnation that no one wants to see again.
I never once blamed her for the show. Never talked down on her. Honestly supported her casting through and through…
Now here you are, Tatiana, letting me down 😒
Regarding your AD regarding hacking…Unfortunately I have a Sony PS5… I made my peace with it.
Female Marvel nerd standing up for all who want good content back. You should get your own superhero show Snarky. Awesome video
Tatiana was is Orpheum Black, not only was she a female lead in a sci-fi like show... but she played a bunch of clones which were all female.. and her adopted brother was gay but there was no major hate and didn't hate the audience...
to be fair to Hulk, there are limitations there that make it so Marvel can't use the character in a project specifically about him. He can only appear.
They could have saved it. They just had to explain why Titania wasn't jailed on the raft, have some sort of lawsuit because of the actions of she hulks law firm deciding the case between the meta human who had multiple wives, and a mea culpa by she hulk for claiming she had a tougher life than Bruce because she had been cat called, which is literally nothing compared to the hulk being on the run, having to fight the army, hated by earth, to name a few reasons.
Jennifer Walters being presented as unlikable so unworthy of dating is not the lovable Jenifer Walters of the comics. There is also the question of who pays for all of the damage she hulk caused in public, and maybe explain why the abomination fecklessly violated his parole by changing form multiple times despite being genuinely reformed. The more...a lot more.
watching shehulk was like listening to someone get mad because u asked them to calm down and read the room lmao
I watched She-Hulk just to get to the episodes with Daredevil in them, but they disrespected Daredevil and made the entire She-Hulk series difficult for me to want to watch. So I was more than happy to find out later that She-Hulk wasn't getting a second season. Plus She-Hulk added nothing to the MCU, everyone who watched it could have actually skipped it.
If they wanted to have a popular show with strong female character they would of course have let the talented and experienced (white male) writer Stephen McFeely continue with Agent Carter. We could have seen lots and lots of characters through the 1950's and the 1960's. Maybe introducing the FF and explaining why they didn't show up for Infinity war (maybe lost in the quantum realm?).