Why Most Star Wars Fans Don’t Actually Know much About the Battle for the Jedi Temple

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @geetslys
    @geetslys  2 роки тому +205

    The events of Operation Knightfall have a few significant differences between Legends and Canon, particularly in regards to Jocasta Nu and Shaak Ti. In Legends, Jocasta Nu was killed in the attack while Shaak Ti escaped; in Canon, it was the other way around. Many details in the Legends version of the story are not present in and are incompatible with the Canon version, while the Canon version includes details not present in or relevant to Legends (such as the betrayal of the Grand Inquisitor). This video, as with nearly all of our videos, exclusively details the Legends version of events. If you're confused about who died and who survived, that'd be because you're thinking of Canon stories. If you'd like to see a video on the Canon version of events, feel free to let us know!

    • @pokechannelgx5819
      @pokechannelgx5819 2 роки тому +15

      I think the truth behind Shaak Ti is that she died so many times because she has been cloning herself. One died to Grievous, one died to Anakin, one died to Lego Anakin, another got killed by Starkiller, and who knows how many others are out there. Why do you think she spent so much time on Kamino at the cloning facility? I rest my case.

    • @BillyBasd
      @BillyBasd 2 роки тому +7

      I want a video on the canon version of Knight fall, with Grand Inquisitor. And legends to fill out the gaps

    • @Toramai-pi8wx
      @Toramai-pi8wx 2 роки тому +6

      I’d love a canon version of events during Knightfall. There’s some aspects are incompatible now with Legends with it but there are other parts of legends that can fit in there.

    • @sozinscomet1316
      @sozinscomet1316 2 роки тому +6

      @@pokechannelgx5819
      This... this isn't a bad theory... I mean, she was in Kamino like too much time checking the clones, perhaps she find out how to clone herself

    • @chad_bro_chill
      @chad_bro_chill 2 роки тому +2

      @@Toramai-pi8wx For a Disney canon version of any event in Star Wars, just peer into the nearest toilet or drainage ditch for a good approximation.

  • @stephenklettke370
    @stephenklettke370 2 роки тому +306

    Can we just appreciate the fact that even as the whole order was painted as traitors and villians, Anakin supposedly died as the hero without fear?
    Impressive. Most Impressive.

    • @randomguy1928
      @randomguy1928 2 роки тому +35

      Facts but not even anakin can beat the lego disguised clone trooper.

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 2 роки тому +333

    3:33 Jocasta: *gets killed*
    Also Jocasta: *somehow survived and spent her life on the run building a new place to store Jedi knowledge for future aspirants to find and learn from it*

    • @goodmind4940
      @goodmind4940 2 роки тому +55

      @@kindelderson9838 it's the opposite, Geetsly usually only covers Legends timeline

    • @yigitgozu
      @yigitgozu 2 роки тому +34

      @@kindelderson9838 she lives in canon, idk about the legends tho

    • @wannesweuts5147
      @wannesweuts5147 2 роки тому +32

      @@yigitgozu in canon she survived Knightfall but she died on Coruscant when she got hunted down by Vader

    • @oharehatmancaleb7
      @oharehatmancaleb7 2 роки тому +29

      In canon she survives Knightfall and manages to preserve or delete important information before Vader kills her, in legends she dies during it.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 2 роки тому +4

      Multiverse Theory is ALWAYS a witch with a B.
      For once, I kinda prefer her fate in "Canon". Feels more climactic.

  • @frostburn3736
    @frostburn3736 2 роки тому +809

    _"What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was."_

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  2 роки тому +76

      Facts

    • @Sleepy_Apocalypse
      @Sleepy_Apocalypse 2 роки тому +44

      Star wars Battlefront 1-2 were me and my younger brothers introduction to Star wars and it was just as sad as it was awesome. We loved shooting games and Star wars Battlefront looked pretty decent to be only 14.99 at the time, so I brought it so that we could see if we liked it and we both agreed that we did after doing a regular battle together. After one or two more battles we felt like we had a decent handle on the gameplay so we began playing the campaign together since we wanted to learn about the story and see if the game had any cool cutscenes. It might sound crazy considering they were only computer generated NPC's but the clone we fought alongside gradually became our brothers also, and so did the Jedi in a way. I'll never forget the shock the sadness and the horror I felt when Order 66 came through and we both realized what it was when our transports landed at the Temple and our brother began shooting Jedi. Just when we'd begun to think we were bringing the war to an end Palpatine gave the order seemingly out of nowhere. We went from fighting side by side with the Jedi on different battlefields all across the galaxy and viewing them as our brave and nearly unstoppable leaders to them being our enemy all within the span of a single night. I remember running through the Jedi Temple with one of the scout (sniper) clone units and running into a side room that looked clear of Jedi as I weighed my options on do we finish the mission or just go play another game mode (that's how much it meant to me emotionally at that point). My brother had felt even stronger about it than I had apparently because he hadn't even moved away from our transport at the front of the temple and when I asked him why he said that he wouldn't kill any Jedi even if it meant losing the mission. I was seriously about to just quit and go to a different mode when a ran into the room I'd been trying to keep a low profile inside and cut down two clones who were standing close to me. After seeing that I reacted based on survival instinct (and anger at seeing two of my brothers vut down). The Jedi could block blaster rifle bolts but not sniper rifle bolts so I'd already had one of the perfect clones units for killing Jedi. I dropped the Jedi so quickly I hadn't even known I was killing him until he was dead. After gaining my first Jedi kill I became somewhat numb to what we were doing and told my brother that since we didn't really have a choice we should just get the mission over with as soon as possible. It took some convincing (I had to guilt trip him into helping because we'd been a team all the way up until that moment and I didn't want him to look at me as a traitor after the mission was over) but he ended up helping me and the other clones eventually. We were both completely silent after we'd finished the mission and listen to the entry in the 501st journal. We always resented the Empire for what it made us do to the Jedi to make its rise achievable. The memory from those campaigns alongside our brothers and the memory of assaulting the Jedi temple ended up sticking with us both forever. We left campaign alone and stuck to rather modes for a while after that mission but we went back and finished it of course which is how we learned about The Empire. I don't know about my brother but whenever I hear people talking about that night I literally have flashbacks. I wasn't just told the story of the attack on the Jedi Temple.. In my mind I was literally there carrying out the attack. I was one of the many many brave souls who were reluctantly forced fo carry out those orders and slaughter our once esteemed Generals, Commander's, and Peacekeepers, who had all been labeled as traitors to the Republic. We hadn't even known anything about Star wars at the time but we knew without a shadow of a doubt that the Jedi weren't traitors. Unfortunately, our duty was to our brothers who were carrying out their orders and to the Chancellor of the Galactic Republic that had given us the order.

    • @justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233
      @justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233 2 роки тому +8

      Interesting experience! I remember playing Battlefront on the PC when it came out and its sequel on the PS2 years later. Loved the PSP spin offs too. Especially Elite Squadron. Good times. Last Christmas I bought Battlefront 2 on my XB1 and they added the dlcs from the Original Xbox version. It was awesome playing Asajj and Kit!

    • @Sleepy_Apocalypse
      @Sleepy_Apocalypse 2 роки тому +8

      @@justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233 The PSP Spinoffs were so underrated! Nice to see me and my brother weren't the only Battlefront fans who enjoyed them as well!

    • @justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233
      @justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233 2 роки тому +5

      Agreed! I kinda wish EA had took some inspiration from Elite Squadron for their Battlefront 2 and allowed us to fight in space and planet side on the same map. I mean technically they do in certain modes by boarding ships via cutscene once enough command posts are captured. But it doesn’t feel nostalgic whatsoever. Of course you can customize each class like you could in Renegade and Elite Squadron games. But even then, it still feels limited. And this ain’t even the tip of the iceberg of my issues with the 2018 Battlefront 2. Especially the ridiculously limited modes in split-screen Co-Op.

  • @blakena4907
    @blakena4907 2 роки тому +91

    I'm blown away at how cruel and callous Anakin was walking into the temple. The image of Anakin just positioning his saber under Juroks jaw, needing to do nothing but activate it, is amazing and horrible.

  • @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
    @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 роки тому +391

    I like how in Legends, Shaak-Ti was smart enough to know that she could not kill Vader, so she decided that she should take all the Jedi she could and flee. Too bad Star Killer did her in.

    • @skyden24195
      @skyden24195 2 роки тому +35

      In my legends, Shaak-Ti fled a galaxy far, far away and ended up on Earth in the 1990's to become a gangster-rapper. 😄 j/k of course. Shaak-Ti is one of my favorite Jedi and Star Wars characters (overall.) And, yeah, the new trilogy was more genocidal to classic and beloved Star Wars characters than the entire reign of the Galactic Empire.

    • @ixkahn
      @ixkahn 2 роки тому +17

      @@skyden24195 wait why are you bringing up the new trilogy?? He's talking about the _other_ Starkiller lmaoo

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  2 роки тому +70

      Shaak-Ti can die many times over and still be alive

    • @rendered5247
      @rendered5247 2 роки тому +38

      @@geetslys Starkiller: *Kills Shaak-Ti*
      Shaak-Ti: I have 600K clones ready, with a million more well on the way.

    • @skyden24195
      @skyden24195 2 роки тому +4

      @@ixkahn ya know what? I was kind of wondering about that when I read it. I do know of the character, "Starkiller," but I am unfamiliar with the details of the character. Regardless, it seemed to me that Star-Killer Base, and the new trilogy in general, would be just as likely to have finally killed off Shaak-Ti, just as many others were in the genocide of beloved Star Wars characters. lol.

  • @johnaudrick3241
    @johnaudrick3241 2 роки тому +88

    This also shows how powerful Yoda and Obi-wan are, it's supposed to be a trap for the Jedi, but they killed most if not all of the clone troopers in the temple. But I always wonder how much clone troopers guarded the temple when they stormed it.

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 2 роки тому +93

    The attack of the Jedi temple was so dark and so sad it always makes me cry when I watch that scene 😭😭😭

    • @bread7236
      @bread7236 2 роки тому +5

      The younglings scene was added so the audience won't get too sad

  • @masteroftheassassins
    @masteroftheassassins 2 роки тому +512

    "What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word."
    "With the fall of Coruscant and the elimination of the traitorous Jedi, Palpatine's rise to power was complete. In recognition of our service and loyalty to the Emperor, the 501st were placed under the direct command of Lord Vader. Armed with deadly new weapons, blazing new ships, and shiny new armor, our presence let the galaxy know that the days of the Old Republic were well and truly over. We were establishing a new era, an era of order and peace."
    I still get chills about this.

  • @SithFTW4072
    @SithFTW4072 2 роки тому +86

    I just want to point out that the original homeworld of the Jedi is Tython, not Ossus. Ossus was home to one of the first, if not THE first, Jedi temples.

  • @JettQuasar
    @JettQuasar 2 роки тому +75

    The fall of the Jedi Temple would be an amazing fight to see in live action!

    • @jacobyroberts4547
      @jacobyroberts4547 2 роки тому +4

      Boy do I have a movie for you! 😂😂

    • @logancaudill2457
      @logancaudill2457 2 роки тому +6

      @@jacobyroberts4547 sadly ROTS doesn’t show much of what happened inside it’s very brief.

    • @HistorysRaven
      @HistorysRaven Рік тому

      It would be pretty brutal. Star Wars has no problem with PG-13 in its movies and TV-14 for its shows. That would probably be a hard R or TV-MA.

  • @Sumguyinavan_
    @Sumguyinavan_ 2 роки тому +28

    Makes me wonder who the jedi was who was carried out of Kamino during the Bad Batch. I think we all assumed it was Shaak Ti since that is where she was stationed. But the lightsaber that falls off the gurney does not match hers- evidenced by the black grips which do not appear on her hilt.

    • @shookistheblaine8521
      @shookistheblaine8521 2 роки тому +6

      Also the dead Jedi’s hand looked green/tan while Shaak Ti’s hand would have been red

  • @inquisitorgarza312
    @inquisitorgarza312 2 роки тому +22

    Operation Knightfall was such successful purge of the Jedi Order that the Galaxy will never be the same.

  • @schurerest7661
    @schurerest7661 2 роки тому +27

    Amazing video as always but one thing you forget was there was a group of clones that dressed up as Jedi who killed any Jedi who came back to the temple

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 2 роки тому +87

    Instead of staying on Coruscant permanently after the New Sith Wars, why don't the Jedi live the lives of nomads instead? Sure, they can maintained the Jedi Temple on Coruscant but I don't think they should live there. Instead, somewhere in the Outer Rim like Lothal is the better place.

    • @joshuacorless1233
      @joshuacorless1233 2 роки тому

      Lerneanlion but they would be slaughtered when the empire conquered lothal shortly after its rise

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 2 роки тому +342

    I always wonder how did Grogu escape from the Jedi Temple when the Clone Troopers attack three Jedi protecting him.

    • @piratavorak
      @piratavorak 2 роки тому +23

      Grogu never existed

    • @deli8871
      @deli8871 2 роки тому +18

      @@piratavorak this, character ruined the mando show

    • @CherryBotV2
      @CherryBotV2 2 роки тому +60

      @@deli8871 how? grogu was literally the main part of the plot

    • @windex7934
      @windex7934 2 роки тому +12

      Grogu? More like go get you some bitches

    • @tomfoolery5680
      @tomfoolery5680 2 роки тому +56

      Through the ancient Jedi technique known only as the Retcon.

  • @julioc.3158
    @julioc.3158 2 роки тому +21

    8:19 This is so funny in a dark way, I feel hella bad that made me crack a smile.

  • @zexalbrony4799
    @zexalbrony4799 2 роки тому +24

    YES! YES! A video on Operation Knightfall in full! I have waited for this one since you started these battle breakdowns. And like I expected, and like the rest of you're content it did not disappoint. :)

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  2 роки тому +3

      Thanks man. This series is extremely fun!

    • @zexalbrony4799
      @zexalbrony4799 2 роки тому +1

      @@geetslys Your welcome. It's extremely fun to watch.

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 2 роки тому +18

    Anakin/Vader: "I like you Grogu. Don't go to The Jedi Temple tonight."

  • @Jedi_Spartan
    @Jedi_Spartan 2 роки тому +49

    8:11 One of Shaak Ti's half dozen deaths in Star Wars... and unfortunately the Canon one.

  • @isaackim7675
    @isaackim7675 2 роки тому +11

    At least we know who gave Master Kenobi the idea to send the message for any surviving Jedi to stay away from the Temple

  • @greatazuredragon
    @greatazuredragon 2 роки тому +15

    The Jedi really should've known to not keep all their eggs in one basket.

  • @Azzie420
    @Azzie420 2 роки тому +8

    501st Journals was Gritty, dark and intriguing... Knightfall had a beautiful mission arc and I enjoyed every damn minute of it, yes even including protecting the library

    • @randomguy1928
      @randomguy1928 2 роки тому +1

      "Like alot of things In the Empire, it never really happened."

    • @Azzie420
      @Azzie420 2 роки тому +1

      @@randomguy1928 like a certain Clone rebellion on Kamino ;)

  • @baki484
    @baki484 2 роки тому +12

    It's always been a dream of mine to see it unedited all those duels that anakin had with jedi and temple guards the game just didn't do it for me.

  • @brassarrow1587
    @brassarrow1587 2 роки тому +5

    This whole story is legends there are a few jedi that are mentioned that didn't die until months later like Jocasta Nu as it was revealed in the Darth vader comics which is canon and Im pretty sure Shaak Ti died in the jedi temple because in the clone wars Anakin and yoda both have a vision and it shows Anakin killing her by stabbing her in the back. The vision for Anakin was in the Mortis ark and yoda was in season 6 when he is learning about transcending through the force.

  • @childishisnotachild7277
    @childishisnotachild7277 2 роки тому +27

    Here is what i think played out during the attack on the jedi temple (canon) and yes this a canon material puzzle being put together however my predicitons of the story could be wrong so i would consider this mostly canon (at the end i would explained every puzzle piece so you wouldn't think I'm making this up). connecting the puzzles from the comics, movies and series:
    A jedi temple guard (the grand inquisitor), gets a holo call from someone, it turns out to be Palpatine, Palpatine order the guard to eliminate the Jedi temple guards. The guard starts to silenty backstab temple guards, delete the footage off the temple's recording and repeat, until Cin Drallig and other Jedi, started to realize that multiple temple guards have gone missing. Cin Drallig, regrouped all the temple guards, thus putting a stop to the guard's massacare. The guard then silenty leaves the temple. A few Jedi in the temple starts sense something wrong in the force, like "Jedi across the Galaxy are getting betrayed, and eliminated", Cin Drallig discuss this with other Jedi. Meanwhile outside the temple Anakin and his clones arrive, they march to the Jedi temple, killing everything that stands in their way eventually they get to Shaak Tii, and execute her.
    Meanwhile during this chaos, Jocasta Nu tries to protect the jedi archives with the other Jedis, however the clones were too much for her and the Jedi to handle, she was destined to get the important books and things, however another Jedi, stop her from doing so, warning her that it would be too dangerous, and convincing her that she is the best hope, if the jedi order really falls, the jedi delayed and distract the enemy enough to give her time to escape through the secret statue all the way down to corrusant deeper levels.
    While all that was happening, commander Fox and his clones take part in order 66 by securing outside the temple. they'll eliminate any jedi that somehow managed to escape the 501st and Anakin.
    After they cleared the temple, Palpatine go the jedi temple to see what Anakin has done. Anakin later sent a message to any surviving jedi, the message manage reached a group of jedi that arrive there at the same time,when they arrive, there are smoke everywhere and then unexpectedly clones came out of the smoke, they started blasting the Jedis.
    And that is the end of the canon material puzzle, there are most likely more puzzle pieces out there, so this is not last you see of me, but for now this is.
    (Ok time for explanation:
    the puzzle piece for the grand inquisitor stuff, is more of a logical one rather than a canon confirmed one, because he has to prove to Palpatine somehow just like how anakin proved to Palpatine by clearing the jedi temple, and this would explained why we see no temple guard in the jedi temple.
    The puzzle piece for Cin Drallig discussing with other jedi is seen in the jedi temple recording.
    The puzzle piece for the Jocasta , she is shown entering through the statue so she must have escaped through the secret statue door. in the darth vader comics, Jocasta Nu didn't get a very important thing, which she later would attempt to get it back, so something must have pulled her back from doing so during order 66, and I introduce this jedi character, who said she is the best hope for the jedi order which is logically and canonically true, since she is knowledgeable. And the Jocasta Nu protecting the archives is because Jocasta Nu is always pictured as a very protective librarian, she even risked blowing her cover by attacking The grand inquisitor who's touching "her" book.
    The puzzle piece for Commander Fox: in darth vader comics, Commander Fox stated that he took part during order 66, and him being a Corusant security guard must have played the same role as he did in the darth vader comics that is securing outside the temple to make sure nobody would escape.
    The puzzle piece for Palpatine coming to the temple is shown in the recordings.
    The smoke one is shown in a manga of Leia, which shows outside the temple, Jedis being killed.

    • @skyden24195
      @skyden24195 2 роки тому +4

      I've always wondered why the security footage of Palpatine's treacherous involvement wasn't used as evidence against the (reveled) Sith Lord.

  • @inquisitorichijou883
    @inquisitorichijou883 2 роки тому +33

    Also, in the canon timeline; when the Yuuzhan Vong took over Corouscant, Anakin Solo managed to break open the core of the temple, releasing a surge of Force energy which in turn created a debris vortex around the place, shredding any enemy vehicle coming close.

    • @aeternumcadens1777
      @aeternumcadens1777 2 роки тому +13

      "Canon Timeline"
      Single tear in eye*
      Sniffle*
      ....You're damn straight

  • @cadjebushey6524
    @cadjebushey6524 2 роки тому +7

    Out of all the things I want to see out of order 66, its more on Knightfall.

  • @neversafefromwaluigi416
    @neversafefromwaluigi416 2 роки тому +1

    “It was thought that Anakin was the last Jedi to fall”. I think he was the first

  • @Karlos1234ify
    @Karlos1234ify 2 роки тому +14

    Anakin: “Maybe I should spare some of them? I might get another Snips.”
    Sors: “MASTER Skywalker, there are too many of them! What are we going to do?”
    Anakin: *Triggered & Dark Deeds play*

    • @Daniel_Huffman
      @Daniel_Huffman 2 роки тому +1

      I really respect you for knowing that youngling’s name.

    • @Karlos1234ify
      @Karlos1234ify 2 роки тому

      @@Daniel_Huffman Thanks 😊

  • @bravo902
    @bravo902 2 роки тому +5

    I would love to see more on the battle of Umbara different perspectives and what else happened on other parts of the planet

  • @exauced7443
    @exauced7443 Рік тому

    It never ceases to amaze me that the clone captains and commanders were all still there. like who was captain maze again

  • @metroidhunter965
    @metroidhunter965 2 роки тому +1

    “What’s so special about you?”
    Shaak Ti: “dying.”

  • @morganbelack1826
    @morganbelack1826 2 роки тому +2

    I sure hope that the legends ending of the temple happens as it is such an iconic building in Star Wars

  • @AncestorEmpire1
    @AncestorEmpire1 2 роки тому +13

    it’s sad that a lot of SW fans don’t know much of anything.
    But then again, I was an EU casual for the longest time.

    • @Aaronian99
      @Aaronian99 2 роки тому +1

      Honestly most sw fans i am friends with know all the legends stuff

    • @AncestorEmpire1
      @AncestorEmpire1 2 роки тому +1

      @@Aaronian99 then you have good friends,

    • @didimean
      @didimean 2 роки тому +2

      What's even sadder is some of the main people making canon Star Wars content today (comics, movies, shows) don't know much of anything.

  • @halfofapicture
    @halfofapicture 2 роки тому +6

    Damn, I almost wish the rumors about Anakin’s death were true. Him being the last Jedi to fall, and to die defending a group of younglings would have been a good death. Luke probably would’ve been killed by Palpatine though.

  • @Mothigans_Maddness
    @Mothigans_Maddness 2 роки тому +6

    How deep down into the planet is the temple? Does it go all the way down to the surface or stop at a lower level

  • @SonofSethoitae
    @SonofSethoitae 2 роки тому +6

    The original homeworld of the Jedi Order is Tython, not Ossus

  • @jasons.7506
    @jasons.7506 2 роки тому +3

    This is the Legends version of Operation Knightfall. In canon, Jocasta survives and Shaak Ti dies I think.

    • @Daniel_Huffman
      @Daniel_Huffman 2 роки тому +2

      And in that version, Ti dies in the _stupidest_ way possible: She’s just sitting there, not helping the other Jedi, and Vader just stabs her in the back. The last time I checked, almost anyone gifted with the Force can sense if someone in their presence is going to try to kill them.
      The only way this can possibly be salvaged is if they say in a guidebook that Ti was using battle meditation, and as such couldn’t defend herself.
      As EvanNova95 put it, “it’s fucking stupid.” Coleman Trebor put up a better fight than her, and that’s saying something!

  • @kareemcuffy6919
    @kareemcuffy6919 2 роки тому +1

    It’s sooo dark there is no sugar coating operation nightfall.

  • @lightningjnb8307
    @lightningjnb8307 2 роки тому +3

    do one with Anakin and commander Cody with the 212 protecting the jedi order

  • @albaradix1598
    @albaradix1598 2 роки тому +6

    The AppoCalypse

  • @rondareongaming9161
    @rondareongaming9161 2 роки тому +8

    Sad to think that the Jedis became so weak that 4 Masters couldn't hold their own against Sidious.

    • @austinkersey2445
      @austinkersey2445 2 роки тому +3

      Not really sad, considering Sidious was the strongest Sith in Galactic History until Darth Krayt. In the Revenge of the Sith novelization it details Sidious and Mace moving at supersonic speeds. So, Sidious was just too fast for Saesee Tiin, Agen Kolar, and Kit Fisto. He may have been old, but he was terrifyingly potent.

  • @SenVerweij
    @SenVerweij 2 роки тому +1

    Great vid once again! Been waiting patiently on a video on this incrediblty intriguing event.

  • @Nephalem2002
    @Nephalem2002 2 роки тому +1

    “What I remember about the Rise of the empire was….how quiet it was.”

  • @raycavazos8927
    @raycavazos8927 2 роки тому

    Right before the younglings are 86ed:
    "Master Skywalker, can my surprise just be a hug?"
    ***covers ears and closes eyes. No peeking***

  • @JamesSkywalker1990
    @JamesSkywalker1990 2 роки тому +2

    5:13 wait a minute, I thought all the Arc Troopers such as Jesse in the 501st has no problem about order 66. Someone such as captain Mace had no idea about the existence of the inhibitor chips right? But how is he able to save few survivors?

    • @andrewlong9799
      @andrewlong9799 2 роки тому

      This was legends material, the chips had not been introduced. They have gone back and forth with why and how the clones followed orders.

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 2 роки тому +4

    Original BF2 flashbacks

  • @maxxor-overworldhero6730
    @maxxor-overworldhero6730 2 роки тому +12

    This reminds me, what happened to the other branches of the Jedi Order - especially the ones that were noncombatants like the agricultural corps or off-world - during Operation Knightfall? I mean, not all of them could have had clone troopers with them, right?

    • @theaustriansurvivor687
      @theaustriansurvivor687 2 роки тому +5

      Well that depends on whether you want an answer from canon or legends. Since this video depicts (as far as I know) the legends version of "Operation Knightfall" I'll stick to legends.
      It is stated in "The Jedi Path A Manual for Students of the Force" that many of the Agri-Corps Members were either killed or turned to the dark side after Order 66. Also, many of them were probably deployed on worlds ravaged by the Clone Wars in order to help rebuild the food production. I would assume that such places were importang enough to be guarded by clone detachements, so Order 66 could have affected them quite easily.
      As for the Medical Corps I can't cite any specific sources, but I would imagine that they were deployed not far away from the frontlines to help heal wounded clones in in field hospitals. So again, there probably was a fairly strong clone presence nearby.
      The Educational Corps and Exploration Corps are harder to grasp. I would guess that quite a few members of these branches survived the first onslaught of Order 66 because they were scattered all over the galaxy and probably without too many clones nearby, since their actions had little to do with the war. However I do believe that most research projects of the Educational Corps were fairly well known since they often worked with scholars outside the order. Therefore I would imagine that most of them were probably detained by local authorities on the charge of treason against the republic and later executed.
      Members of the Exploration Corps probably had the highest chance of surviving because many of them were constantly on the move, so that it would have been hard to track them down. But the Exploration Corps also had very few members to begin with, so there were not too many that needed killing.
      Also, you have to remember, that the majority of the members of the Jedi Service Corps were either former Younglings who never made it to Padawan or former Padawans that never became knights. So they were neither as dangerous to the Empire as Knights or Masters would have been, nor as hard to kill, so whoever survived Order 66 was probably killed or turned later on.
      I hope this was helpful

    • @maxxor-overworldhero6730
      @maxxor-overworldhero6730 2 роки тому +1

      @@theaustriansurvivor687 That definitely was helpful. Especially when I remember in Legends that Operation Knightfall also effectively was a g-cide of the Miralukans (the near-humans who lacked eyes and inherently used the Force to see), especially when there were a ton of Miralukan staff not sufficiently Force-Sensitive enough to be Jedi employed by the Order.

  • @atlasnorris8670
    @atlasnorris8670 2 роки тому +1

    Clone: "Good thing those bugs can't aim"
    Everyone: gets shot

  • @boi8825
    @boi8825 2 роки тому

    Imagine 3 clones with hard drives just plugging them into the archives just standing there while the chaos unfolds around them

  • @PotatoProphet26
    @PotatoProphet26 2 роки тому

    5:29 "This is where the fun begins"

  • @droga5262
    @droga5262 2 роки тому

    That would've been terrifying to witness all of that

  • @physical_insanity
    @physical_insanity 2 роки тому

    Battle for the Jedi Temple sounds like the title for a sick EDM track.

  • @logancaudill2457
    @logancaudill2457 2 роки тому

    Most people never quite understood how many Jedi knights, masters, padawan, and younglings were killed at the temple. This video puts it into perspective.

  • @dannu4523
    @dannu4523 2 роки тому +3

    Anakin Skywalker Becomes Darth Vader

  • @XXAnthonyCarmineXx
    @XXAnthonyCarmineXx 2 роки тому +1

    4:00 Assassin’s Creed Star wars

  • @JuanGomez-bs6ue
    @JuanGomez-bs6ue 6 місяців тому

    "The only thing worse than losing a hero, is to watch him turn against us"

  • @mauricerose3082
    @mauricerose3082 2 роки тому +1

    "The Coruscant Underworld, Lower Levels, Undercity, Underground,
    Underlevels, or Lower Coruscant, were terms used to describe the lowest regions of the City-Planet of Coruscant, laid with a mixture of ancient and forgotten ruins from the planet's prehistory, along with modern-looking, crime-ridden venues and clubs. During the Clone Wars, a massive ventilation shaft offered access to the heart of the underworld."
    "Most of the underworld rested more than a kilometer below the urban surface and city platforms."

  • @TheCiroth
    @TheCiroth 2 роки тому +1

    I guess Nu died twice. After Order 66, there was a whole arc where she had a Lightsaber gun.

  • @louishicks4921
    @louishicks4921 2 роки тому +3

    What if the jedi were ready and waiting for the attack? Having seen vision's of it and come up with a plan of there own.

    • @alexanderthegreat6682
      @alexanderthegreat6682 2 роки тому

      In that case they would have held the temple entrance much more successfully, and the clones would have been forced to use artillery or explosives to break in, and several more Jedi would have survived Order 66, especially a large number of the Padawans and younglings in the temple, and some of the Jedi who returned after the initial battle.

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 2 роки тому +3

    The operation knightfall part of the revenge of the sith video game is my favorite level fighting jedi is quite entertaining.
    Jedi sniper: "your no match for my skills."
    Darth vader: "your no match for the power of the dark side."

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 2 роки тому +2

      I actually prefer being a shotgun-and-fusioncutter wielding Engineer though. Former against the novice Jedi, latter so to preserve those purged Jedi texts and holocrons.

    • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
      @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 2 роки тому +2

      @@michaelandreipalon359 I like to play as the clone engineer to.

  • @HajimariKarasu
    @HajimariKarasu 2 роки тому +1

    Well you say this but anyone who has played the original battlefront 2 would rember a certain level

  • @frankiebigrings7048
    @frankiebigrings7048 2 роки тому

    dam imagine your hommie who was a great guy and trusted friend suddenly came back to your place and started killing all your mutuals

  • @DefecTec
    @DefecTec 2 роки тому +1

    6:30 I mean technically since there were only 10,000 jedi knights in the galaxy wouldn't most be serving in the war?

  • @justfinnchilling
    @justfinnchilling 2 роки тому +2

    This is why being a temple guard is awesome and sad

  • @Idkidkidk716
    @Idkidkidk716 2 роки тому +1

    The 501st had target practice on Pong Krell

  • @teleportedbreadfor3days
    @teleportedbreadfor3days 2 роки тому +1

    Wasn’t there another skirmish in the Jedi Temple before the events of the prequels, when a bunch of thugs or pirates or something invaded the place? I wanna learn more about that. I can’t even recall what the conflict was called by heart. And I only heard of it considerably recently.

    • @theonionmike4151
      @theonionmike4151 2 роки тому +1

      I think you're referring to the Yinchorri uprising. Basically Sidious manipulated these dumb lizard savages into attacking the temple. But whereas the clone wars had most of the good jedi off fighting around the galaxy leaving mostly students and a few B- rate masters to defend the temple, this happened back when the order was at full strength. Yoda led the defense with dozens of seasoned knights and some of the best masters, I don't think you could even call it a battle, the lizards never stood half a chance, the fact they even attempted an attack was laughable!

  • @fugo4135
    @fugo4135 2 роки тому

    I thought Jocasta Nu was killed by Vader after Order 66. I saw it in a comic book. Vader had his suit and Jocasta was attacking him with lightsaber-rifle.

  • @abigmonster8457
    @abigmonster8457 2 роки тому +1

    Shaak Ti: I sleep.

  • @ALmizzle415
    @ALmizzle415 2 роки тому

    Nice video I haven’t read many of the graphic novels or comics (whatever u call em) hope that’s all true. It’s a good addition to the story

  • @electroanubis3385
    @electroanubis3385 Рік тому

    I thought Plo Koon been shot down by his own pilot when order 66 was issued

  • @richardpage5812
    @richardpage5812 2 роки тому

    So I guess Jacosta Nu figured out how to come back from the dead or something.🤔

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 2 роки тому

    *reads description quote* Yeah, it is a pun, but it's a bada... whatever sounding pun regardless. Even became the name for Batman's purge protocol in the Arkhamverse too for good reason.
    1:12: "All things die. Even stars burn out." Gives me chills, those words of death and despair from the RotS novelization, alongside the "All Jedi die" paragraph.
    1:58: Anakin sure was a Bunsen burner of puns, takebacks, putdowns, and other smart aleck dialogue in the novelization.
    8:06: The Clone Wars era sure is full of this: there are reports that Barriss Offee actually didn't go rogue and stayed loyal to the Order and the Republic, Ahsoka Tano is just a figment of Republic propaganda, and Master Even Piell actually survived for a little while, only to be killed in the alleyways of Coruscant a few years later or less. (Oh, wait, these are probably canonical in the original Legends continuity.)
    9:20: YUUZHAN'TAR!!!

  • @jojo_da_poe
    @jojo_da_poe 2 роки тому

    Attention, sergeant on deck!

  • @soubigo
    @soubigo 2 роки тому +1

    i love your videos. there always so well informed and detailed. however i wish that you would put distinctions in when regaurding to true cannon and disney fannon content. that way newcomers to the fandom will know the difference between the 2.

  • @Bigfootpetmobilegrooming
    @Bigfootpetmobilegrooming 2 роки тому

    I wonder how many clones fell during this raid. After the initial surprise I would imagine Jedi aren’t the easiest things to kill

    • @murphyjack90
      @murphyjack90 Рік тому

      Quite a lot, but all the best Jedi by this point were either dead or in the Outer Rim fighting the war. What you had left in the Temple were temple guardians, combat instructors like Cin Drallig, padawans whose masters were killed, younglings and non combat oriented Jedi like Jocasta Nu. Jedi weren't all they had either; the Temple actually had an auxiliary corps of non force sensitive paramilitaries that operate security systems and provide combat support during an attack.
      So it was a hodge podge of very good to mediocre Jedi and rent a cops up against the best damned army in the Galaxy, which outnumbered them by a wide margin. This was never going to end any other way.

  • @amandalorian4973
    @amandalorian4973 2 роки тому

    I like how the comics, books, and games give anakin more emotion

  • @badgamemaster
    @badgamemaster 2 роки тому

    Shaak-Ti in Legends: *dies by the hands of Grievous, dies by the hands of Vader, dies by the hands of Starkiller* Well at lest I am not myself in Disney Canon.

  • @kingandros4819
    @kingandros4819 2 роки тому +7

    Palpy did nothing wrong. He forced a factory reset on the jedi. Hail the sith! However, for my jedi sympathizers out there, his factory reset ultimately was good for the jedi as a whole. It rid them of their dogma, their jadedness, their hubris, their corruption and their blindness to the galaxy

  • @mrbojangles9348
    @mrbojangles9348 2 роки тому

    What about the disguised infiltration clones? Who supposedly were meant to thin out or eliminate temple guards before the main force arrived. Then after the battle we’re supposed to disguise themselves as Jedi so that from a distance the temple looked safe, only for Jedi to fall into the trap of revealing themselves

    • @randomguy1928
      @randomguy1928 2 роки тому +2

      Sadly it was only adapted in the deleted scene and the lego version.

    • @randomguy1928
      @randomguy1928 2 роки тому +2

      And the comics.

    • @mrbojangles9348
      @mrbojangles9348 2 роки тому +1

      @@randomguy1928 and the Official novelisation of the film

    • @mrbojangles9348
      @mrbojangles9348 2 роки тому +1

      @@randomguy1928 And some of the games for ROTS. Plus a side mention in Battlefront II 2005

  • @camelxravennova
    @camelxravennova 2 роки тому

    The saddest night. Love the Jedi love the temple.

  • @andypeesto3567
    @andypeesto3567 2 роки тому

    Ok now while I'm really enjoying this story but Jocasta wasn't killed by Vader during operation Knight fall it was later I think when Vader was trying to find a crystal for his sith lightsaber and Jocasta used an prototype light gun powered by a Kyber crystal in a lightsaber but she didn't die during Knight fall

  • @nathanrios624
    @nathanrios624 2 роки тому

    I feel that the movie Miss showing more of the battle between Jedi and the 501 it would have been a impact of seeing to see so many Jedis fall under Darth Vader and the 501!!!

  • @goldeagle6431
    @goldeagle6431 2 роки тому +19

    Most Star Wars fans don’t know much about the Senate’s true power.

    • @jeffdrew7027
      @jeffdrew7027 2 роки тому +1

      Dude, you’re the senate I swear

  • @StainelessSteelOG
    @StainelessSteelOG 2 роки тому

    4:54
    **Visible confusion**

  • @anthonysummers3446
    @anthonysummers3446 2 роки тому

    I really like this series.

  • @codeleblo2382
    @codeleblo2382 2 роки тому

    Vader thinking of the rumor which made him a hero.

  • @skyden24195
    @skyden24195 2 роки тому +3

    A comment and a question: Comment: "Shaak Ti" has got to be one of the most bad-ass Jedi ever; even her name sounds like the name of a 1990's gangster rapper. Question: Why didn't Kenobi/Yoda use the archived security footage, which showed the truth of Palpatine's plot/manipulation/actions, as evidence against the would-be emperor? I would think that this footage would have immediately made null-in-void (if nothing else) "Order 66," due to the fact that Order 66 dictated that clone-troopers execute Jedi only if proof of treason was presented. The security footage would have overturned this evidence and would actually have initiated another protocol within the control chips of the clones. (That being to arrest the Supreme Chancellor if evidence of treason were presented.) Granted, the Jedi likely did not know of these measures, in particular, but still, the evidence would clearly show of Palpatine's treachery to the senate and galaxy at large.

    • @birch8109
      @birch8109 2 роки тому +2

      And it showed that Anakin didn’t die which contradicts Palpaitine

    • @Daniel_Huffman
      @Daniel_Huffman 2 роки тому +2

      In Legends, Order 66 was public knowledge, and was directly after Order 65, which essentially said that if Palpatine was found to be acting against the interests of the Republic, he was to be removed from power, with lethal force if necessary. I can only assume this was right next to Order 66 so that, if a Jedi looked through the contingency orders, they’d suspect that Order 65 was in place in case Palpatine, I don’t know, got run over by a bus and was succeeded by a Sith puppet, or even Darth Sidious, who the Jedi suspected to be one of Palpatine’s aides.

    • @justinstewart318
      @justinstewart318 2 роки тому +2

      Because the addition to the inhibitor chips was just lazy writing to turn clones into bad guys. The idea that free thinking clones, or relatively free thinking clones would do this on an order. A lot of clones did not like Jedi.
      And then doing that would also just ruin plot. Clone wars era was built to fail.

    • @skyden24195
      @skyden24195 2 роки тому +1

      @@justinstewart318 That is for sure. Really, (for the most part,) the clones that resisted order 66 where typically higher ranking officers who interacted closely with Jedi who were more considerate of the troops over which they commanded (such as Skywalker) but even then, there was no guarantee; i.e., Commander Cody w/ Kenobi. And of course there were the Jedi General Krell(s) who got a blaster to the back before order 66 even went into effect.
      😄

    • @avarice5071
      @avarice5071 2 роки тому +1

      Aye, too much logic probably breaks story telling and aye three more movies so don't worry about that

  • @joshfulmer3689
    @joshfulmer3689 Рік тому

    Th3 most confusing parts is how did Shaak Ti really died? Is there's like 4 ways that she supposedly died. Why?

  • @alexandergalarza9505
    @alexandergalarza9505 2 роки тому

    That's sum deep dark story would love to see fully movie but meh oh well

  • @aidanbertone1840
    @aidanbertone1840 2 роки тому

    I WANT THE Kenobi show to show Anakin fighting drelec and killing the Padawan's. im not weird just its necessary

  • @jameslionetti4643
    @jameslionetti4643 2 роки тому

    Do you think you could cover battles from the Sequel trilogy if you got the chance?

  • @weshelm7991
    @weshelm7991 2 роки тому

    What about the temple guards that turned on the jedi like the grand inquisitor?

  • @ImSomethingSpecial
    @ImSomethingSpecial 2 роки тому

    This story feels like I platyed it in the ROTS ps2 game.

  • @BrickNBeyond
    @BrickNBeyond 2 роки тому

    All of this is legends right? Apart from some of the points like Shaak Ti etc. As Jocasta Nu survived and escaped Coruscant, returned to the temple to get the list of the potential future jedi and then encountered Vader and the Grand Inquisitor, later discovered Vader was Anakin and then died by Vader.

  • @mr_fancybones4873
    @mr_fancybones4873 2 роки тому

    Question in the bad batch when they return to kamino after order 66 as they enter the hanger you can see a jedi covered and being carried away and I thought it was shaak ti as she was the jedi who oversees the clone training but if she died at the temple who was at kamino and her dying at the temple in a deleted scene and I looked it up and it isn’t canon right? Idk how she died could someone explain lol

  • @seanlanni6679
    @seanlanni6679 2 роки тому +1

    NOT.. not what happened to jo'casta nu. You have told different. What about the list she goes back for after and fights Vader in his suit????? Very confusing

  • @umungus518
    @umungus518 2 роки тому

    So jocasta was killed here and not by Vader later on after she returns to the temple and fights the grand inquisitior?

  • @michaelwilliams369
    @michaelwilliams369 2 роки тому +2

    Actually according to the canon Darth Vader comic Vader didn't kill Jedi librarian Jocasta Nu until after Operation Nightfall and his loss to Obi-Wan on Mustafar when he later returned there after being assigned by Sidious to do so and retrieve the Great Holocron. Sidious also warned Vader that it may be in Jocasta's possession as she was not counted amongst the dead during Operation Nightfall and he feared what she could do with the information.