"The temple had been fortified and long ago deemed impregnable" *he says while showing an image of Vader and the 501st marching into a completely wide-open and impossible-to-close-off archway*
Also see the swtor mmo imperial intro video where a sith strike force uses a gunship to literally crush trough the front doors and bury jedi guards under the rubble of the destroyed walls.
@@geetslys god I wish we got a Republic commando 2 but I do think it is a way better ending that sev dies. Unpopular opinion but it gives the story some emotional meaning
I know Palptine's palace is built on top of the Jedi Temple in Legends. Wouldn't it be ironic if the Jedi Temple was built on top of a Sith Temple? And Luke built his New Jedi Temple on top of Palptine's Palace?
No no, in Canon the Palace IS the Temple possibly built up over time, in Legends the temple was separate from the Palace. (And looked cool as hell) In TFU (Wii/PS2/GC) it was left up as a ruin maybe to warn people against rebellion. And in Legends it also had a "Powerful possibly Dark Side Nexus" under it but that as also during the Potentium era from the NJO where the writers were experimenting with the idea that "Too much raw Force Power will feel like the Dark Side" which George later came in and told them to knock off.
@@DIEGhostfish Weird to think that the old writers were gonna say that "Too much raw force power will feel like the dark side", like... I mean, how would that work?
No doubt that Palpatine knew of this Dark Side well within the Jedi Temple, and makes me wonder if the High Council knew the dangers of the well itself. The Jedi Temple was a truly a symbol of the decline of the Jedi Order, beautiful and bright on the outside, but dark and hollow in the inside.
The jedi definitely knew about it. I always thought this was a good example of the arrogance and naivete of the jedi to think they contain or keep this dark side energy under control without being affected by it.
@@theonionmike4151 And in Resistance, we saw that this was not an uncommon occurrence, with a Jedi Outpost built atop a Sith Temple to try and cleanse the Dark Side from the area.
Those on high council of Jedi Order, including Yodi, seem to force sense that something was clouding their abilities. So, why didn't they take proper steps? Perhaps, if they had gone into Sith zones and destroyed ALL shrines and relics maybe Jedi Order could avoided its end.
I actually like the EU's fate of the temple being left in ruin compared to it just becoming the Emperor's house. In my headcanon, he renovates most of the upper layers of the temple to be his Palace, but leaves the lower section ruined as a living monument of the Jedi's destruction.
Like the old story of the man who crushed the rattlesnakes head with his boot and died later on the the sons inherited the boots, each son died in each generation after until the descendants saw there was a venomous fang stuck in the boot.
I'm not as saddened by the Jedi Temple of Coruscant being converted into the Imperial Palace as I am knowing that Ilum was strip mined by the Empire so they could use its kyber crystals to build both of the Death Stars and then turned into Starkiller Base by the First Order. Building it over a Sith shrine was not the best idea. I mean sure... build some kind of facility to contain that taint and monitor it, but to build the headquarters of your entire order on top of it is insanity.
@@Armin2012 well cordoning off the area and researching what can be done about it would be better than just knocking down the Sith shrine and building a big Jedi Temple over the top of it, hoping everyone will forget about the Dark Side.
1:51 Gyms in the Jedi Temple. Obi-Wan spotting Anakin on bench press: "It's over Anakin! I have the high ground!" "Shut up." Also Aayla Secura is totally that one chick who trains lower body 6 days a week. Mace Windu is probably an aggressive spotter. Kit Fisto probably does mostly front squats for legs, on account of the many tentacles blocking his shoulders. Luminara and Bariss Offee are the kind people who would go to a gym for cardio instead of going outside.
I'm pretty sure this sith shrine is mentioned in the canon Tarkin novel by James Luceno. It even has Plagueis' former droid helping Palpatine excavate it.
The Jedi were done in by their own arrogance (at least in what I consider the true canon), they allowed the Ruusan Reformation to take place, gave up their standing army, their starfighter corps, their capital ships and even their political power which turned them into recluses at best and Senate lapdogs at worst! They also stopped wearing armor and stopped teaching a lot about the force (lot of techniques fell out of favour or were actively banned!) lightsaber combat (the ancient Jedi would have repulsed Vader and the 501st, seriously! Anakin is powerful, no doubt about that, but he is just one guy! Several Jedi-Masters working together should be able to take him, but most so called masters of this era are weak, badly trained (compared to the Jedi of earlier times!) and helpless without a blade (which they, as already stated, can't even fully utilize because so much isn't taught anymore! Hell, Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku was shunned because he insisted on learning Form II Makashi, which is a duelling style of lightsaber combat focusing on a single blade (often with a curved hilt, which was looked down uppon...hell double bladed lightsabers were forbidden except for Temple Guards...so yeah, they gimped themselves!) and on lightsaber against lightsaber combat, which the Jedi thought as not neccessary, the sith were long defeated in their minds...they forgot that a) one can be fooled and b) you can not kill an idea, so even if the sith had been totally wiped out, they could have risen from preserved texts, holocrons etc.)...you might call most (except Yoda, Obi-Wan and Mace Windu) "Masters" barely knights, compared to earlier incarnations of the Order! ps: I am not saying that the Jedi should have dominated the galaxy, but why not allow members to take up jobs (even public office - hell, some Jedi became Supreme Chancellor before Ruusan!) outside the temple? This way they remain well connected to the people and aren't seen as legends by many (easily forgotten and tarnished by imperial propaganda...COMPNOR had it easy because the Jedi shot themselves in the foot with the 12 gauge!)
@@dreamingflurry2729 true, they did not even teach true Jedi Shadows anymore. There where temple guards and shadows but swtor shadows would view them as bare initiates at the beginning of their training.
@@dreamingflurry2729 yes, by all means, they should have held onto power, because if there is 1 thing power never does, it's corrupt the one that has it. The Jedi made a lot of mistakes that ended up contributing to its destruction. Stepping back from a standing army, etc wasn't one of them.
And in one final ultimate middle finger to the Jedi, Palpatine in Canon converted the temple to his Personal Palace. Just imagine being a Jedi only to discover that what was once the home of the Jedi for many millennia is now the personal home of a Sith Lord.
I remember Vergere mentioning that force nexus towards Jacen Solo in the novel Traitor. Right after the nexus got cracked open and a flood of debris forming a maelstrom crushing any Yuuzhan Vong ships coming close.
I love the fact that both the Senate Building and the Jedi Temple are both on mountains, because watching the prequels, you'd never be like "Oh yeah, that's obviously a mountain."
I kinda makes sense though, the warren of artificial tunnels and caverns encompassing lower coruscant probably wouldn't support such massive constructions. Plus they were probably important points well before the planet became so overbuilt.
That’s one hell of a building, especially when you consider how relatively small the Jedi Order was by the start of the Clone Wars, I mean for Obi Wan’s rescue they could only get together a little over 200 Jedi, and not all of those were Jedi knights, and many appeared to be Padawans. So even if that was only 10% of their strength, this building is still massive.
Granted having Darth Vader/Anakin slaughter the younglings was part of his arking story of evil. It is hard to believe the Jedi had no plan to evacuate them if not out of the temple at least to a safer vault deep within during times of stress to the planet. But no. They are just hanging out in a training room with lots of windows a blaster from an orbating ship could hit them with. No hidden escape elevator to take them directly to a hanger or escape route. I mean a dozen little kids with little tiny light sabers could have torn the hell out of if not killed Skywalker before he got them all. Imagine even the now greatest lightsaber duelist in the universe trying to fend off 10 charging swinging lightsabers from every direction that are all mid chest or lower in height. Have you ever experienced trying to deal with 20 kindergarten kids out of control on your own?
That's my head canon now, lol. Vader's toughest fight other than Kenobi on Mustafar. The newly minted Sith Lord nearly killed by a bunch of 1st graders.
Really gutsy for the Old Jedi Order to put their oldest texts and statues on the top of the temple, which is arguably the most vulnerable to orbital and long range artillery bombardment. Also, the word "ziggurat" just sounds a bit too morbid for me when it comes to describing the Coruscant Temple... I associate that word with those Undead Scourge population/defense towers from Warcraft III (OG, not the dungheap we got last year) and those damned Necrons from Warhammer 40K.
Yeah I was thinking that too. Just picturing one little bomb whizzing down and destroying the heart of the order, essentially, without even touching the rest. It would be so easy. Like whacking off the head of a dandelion. I have to wonder if it was tried?
Because of the Sith Temple underground in Coruscant, the Jedi could not sense Palpatine as the Sith Lord Darth Sidious they've been looking for. As Count Dooku said in AotC, they(Jedi) were too blind to see it which eventually led to their downfall. Luke's own New Jedi Temple in Yavin IV which the temple(also a headquarter base of Rebel Alliance) he built was once a Sith Temple created by Exar Kun, one of the most powerful Sith Lords during the Great Sith War. The only difference was Luke was able to defeat Exar Kun's spirit, thus both the Light Side and Dark Side of the Force were connected each other.
Oh wow I just had a huge 'what if' in the form of what if they used that 'Ashoka finds the sith shrine under the temple' for Season 7? But maybe she goes to the siege of Mandalore before she gets a chance to say what she found?
The places strong in the Force have always been a draw for both Jedi and Sith. You would think any Jedi Knight+ would have an understanding of this principle and not be so shocked to learn their main temple was constructed over a Sith temple.
Anyone else wonder how Coruscanti people are able to breathe on the upper levels? If there are 5127 levels thats gotta be high up. I mean the peak of this mountain is literally housed. Do they even get low level clouds anymore?
Whats really brilliant about this is how the old Jedi build over a Sith temple and a dark side nexus and get their temple destroyed, yet a few millennium later the new Jedi order (new Republic (post fall of empire and pre Yuzan Vong) with Luke and Mara) do exactly the same thing on Yavin and have the same problem with their pupils and the dark side. What was will be, what will be was.
I tend to ignore cannon, but I do like the idea of Palps taking the temple as his palace. I prefer to think that the imperial palace we see in the original Thrawn trilogy and Dark Empire was simply the old jedi temple highly modified and built up to better appeal to palpetine's megalomania. Several books mentioned that the palace was ancient, but none of the prequels showed a palace. I believe that the temple itself was only finally uncovered when the Vong invaded couriscant and destroyed it, only to have Lord Nyax break in to feed off the dark side nexus that had been sealed away. After the Vong were repulsed, and Luke had learned of the temples location, did he decide to rebuild the jedi temple back where it was, only with a transparasteel pyramid over it to protect it.
I really think that arc should’ve been adapted. I feel like to much of the blame is on the Jedi for being incompetent/complacent and it would be nice to get more aspects of the sith grand plan. It’s almost like the sith had created a “fog of war” and were hitting the Jedi order at its heart without them realizing
Respectfully disagree. To me (as is the case with most things in SW) Legends makes more sense. After Order 66 and the purge, Palpatine basically considered the Jedi defeated and no longer worth his time. His focus went on to building his new empire and the Imperial Palace in Legends was a testament to the Empire's image of grandeur and the Emperor's ego. By letting the Jedi temple rot abandoned and unused better reflected his contempt and disrespect for the order as he didn't even acknowledge them as something worthy of his attention, let alone a formidable adversary. Fun fact- Legends Palpatine wouldn't even allow Vader to go Jedi hunting after the purge. He forbade him from it because thats what the Inquisitors were for, and he wanted Vader to focus entirely on Imperial stuff and not legitimize the broken straggler jedi leftovers with his time and energy (although Vader hunted jedi anyway because Vader does what Vader wants!)
I think I read on the Canon Wookiepedia that after the Temple became the Imperial Palace, Sidious would descend down to the Sith shrine and use it as a meditation chamber.
Ironically, this bit of information explains Anakin's fall to the dark side that much more. He had been having constant dreams and nightmares, most of those were while he was in the temple. Where you literally had a Sith shrine in the basement. In a way it's almost like the plot of the Shining. Just with less writing and more people to hack up.
a series that follows a small not so known Jedi and his/her crazy harry potter style adventures through the temple while the clone wars goes on outside the walls. do the whole series within the temple
I want to know the names of the most powerful objects hidden in these "secret" areas and what they can do their properties, structures,etc and pen point the most guarded of them all!!
Surely Palpatine would know once order 66 and Revenge of the Sith ended he would turn the Temple into a place for him while the Death Star was being made so surely Palpatine would've came across it...
The Jedi Order's original homeworld wasn't Ossus. It was Tython. In fact, the Jedi Order far predates the founding of the Great Library, which was founded by Jedi Master Odan-Ur sometime after the Great Hyperspace War circa 5000 BBY, until its destruction in 3996 BBY when agents of Exar Kun's Sith Brotherhood detonated the stars of the Cron Cluster using an ancient Sith superweapon.
I feel like the reason the story concept was canned is because it would probably allow the Jedi to sense that Palpatine is a Sith Lord which would go against ROTS
This was an amazing video. I wish this clone wars arc had been made but once Ashoka found out about the dark secret wouldn't she tell the jedi? In revenge of the sith we know that this did not happen
I prefer the cannon story of palpatine living in the temple, the thoughts of him not only destroying the Jedi temple but rebuilding it to suit his evil is on brand
Could you please go over the oldest existing/known Jedi artifacts, knowledge and texts? Then maybe go over those belonging to the Sith in another video?
I wish their was a game where you can choose what kind of jedi you become and be able to explore courosant and the courosant jedi temple and explore courosant and otger planets
Personally my headcanon is the nexus grew out of the order’s control with the return of the Sith and with taking time and investing and growing so strong the Sith that followed the rule of two both intentionally and unintentionally influenced it. I believe the nexus was feeding the Jedi a false sense of security and with arrogance breeding arrogance, the belief the Sith were extinct, as well as abandoning their principles for the sake serving the senate on top of their numbers being so abundant…. All this played so well and perfectly, the Sith’s involvement was only literally half of the reason but it gave reason to hide and disguise themselves so well until it was far too late
Ah cool, didn't know there was actually several buildings inside the building we usually see. 3:10 Do you mean to say, that the ancient Jedi-texts aren't among the interesting stuff? B^)
So the whole time before and during the clone wars, the jedi were sitting on what was considered the sacred and purist spots in the Republic capital. Turned out to be a practically forgotten Sith smoke and gun that Palpatine used against them by blinding their sight to see throughthe force, and tearing the JediOrderapart from the inside out. No wonder Palpatine made it into his palace, and why Luke didn't go and made it back to a Jedi temple. Maybe they'll cover the dungeon and Sith well in the Ahsoka series, or maybe in the Bad Batch season 2 (thought that one might be a long shot).
Its just prooves wherever there is light... darknes is sure to follow.. I wouldve def paid to see season 8 of the clone wars dive into the secrets of the temple
"The temple had been fortified and long ago deemed impregnable"
*he says while showing an image of Vader and the 501st marching into a completely wide-open and impossible-to-close-off archway*
Also see the swtor mmo imperial intro video where a sith strike force uses a gunship to literally crush trough the front doors and bury jedi guards under the rubble of the destroyed walls.
Clearly the temple holds the most forbidden artifact: a copy of the original Battlefront 3
Hope we finally get that in its complete stage.
That and Republic Commando 2 : The Survival of Sev
Depends. RC2 might be about the three-man (four-man, if they get a new member... probably Darman Skirata) Delta Squad instead.
That's called Haze, where the studio embezzled most of their Lucasarts money.
@@geetslys god I wish we got a Republic commando 2 but I do think it is a way better ending that sev dies. Unpopular opinion but it gives the story some emotional meaning
I know Palptine's palace is built on top of the Jedi Temple in Legends. Wouldn't it be ironic if the Jedi Temple was built on top of a Sith Temple? And Luke built his New Jedi Temple on top of Palptine's Palace?
No no, in Canon the Palace IS the Temple possibly built up over time, in Legends the temple was separate from the Palace. (And looked cool as hell) In TFU (Wii/PS2/GC) it was left up as a ruin maybe to warn people against rebellion. And in Legends it also had a "Powerful possibly Dark Side Nexus" under it but that as also during the Potentium era from the NJO where the writers were experimenting with the idea that "Too much raw Force Power will feel like the Dark Side" which George later came in and told them to knock off.
well in Legends Luke did build his Jedi Academy in one of the Massassi temples on Yavin 4.
@@DIEGhostfish my bad
@@hunterkiller1440 No biggie, it's easy to mix the two up from time to time.
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Weird to think that the old writers were gonna say that "Too much raw force power will feel like the dark side", like... I mean, how would that work?
No doubt that Palpatine knew of this Dark Side well within the Jedi Temple, and makes me wonder if the High Council knew the dangers of the well itself. The Jedi Temple was a truly a symbol of the decline of the Jedi Order, beautiful and bright on the outside, but dark and hollow in the inside.
If I remember some of the old lore. Palpatine used some of the ancient with artifacts to corrupt jedi in secret.
he did, it says in the darth plagues novel
The jedi definitely knew about it. I always thought this was a good example of the arrogance and naivete of the jedi to think they contain or keep this dark side energy under control without being affected by it.
@@theonionmike4151 And in Resistance, we saw that this was not an uncommon occurrence, with a Jedi Outpost built atop a Sith Temple to try and cleanse the Dark Side from the area.
Those on high council of Jedi Order, including Yodi, seem to force sense that something was clouding their abilities. So, why didn't they take proper steps? Perhaps, if they had gone into Sith zones and destroyed ALL shrines and relics maybe Jedi Order could avoided its end.
I actually like the EU's fate of the temple being left in ruin compared to it just becoming the Emperor's house. In my headcanon, he renovates most of the upper layers of the temple to be his Palace, but leaves the lower section ruined as a living monument of the Jedi's destruction.
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The real dark secrets are the friends we made along the way.
Wow those are dark!
But the darker secrets are figuring out which of our friends are true friends and which ones are fake.
One pieced em!!! Noice
@@celestialspartan1176 99% are fake
Lol
Like the old story of the man who crushed the rattlesnakes head with his boot and died later on the the sons inherited the boots, each son died in each generation after until the descendants saw there was a venomous fang stuck in the boot.
That was a nice yet morbid story.
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Why would people continue to wear this murder boot knowing that each previous owner died?
@@theonionmike4151 Maybe they have a weird deathwish of sorts.
@@theonionmike4151 I refer the honourable gentleman to the comment I made some moments ago...
I'm not as saddened by the Jedi Temple of Coruscant being converted into the Imperial Palace as I am knowing that Ilum was strip mined by the Empire so they could use its kyber crystals to build both of the Death Stars and then turned into Starkiller Base by the First Order.
Building it over a Sith shrine was not the best idea. I mean sure... build some kind of facility to contain that taint and monitor it, but to build the headquarters of your entire order on top of it is insanity.
You’re talking like that dark side taint can be contained like it’s a radiation of sorts.
@@Armin2012 well cordoning off the area and researching what can be done about it would be better than just knocking down the Sith shrine and building a big Jedi Temple over the top of it, hoping everyone will forget about the Dark Side.
And then the Jedi are surprised that their vision in the Force is clouded 😂
Always wanted to hear about The Jedi temple and the secrets and what they know and what they have
The archives were incomplete because the rabbit hole never stopped.
9:33 Yeah baby, manipulate that dark taint
Dammit
1:51 Gyms in the Jedi Temple. Obi-Wan spotting Anakin on bench press:
"It's over Anakin! I have the high ground!"
"Shut up."
Also Aayla Secura is totally that one chick who trains lower body 6 days a week. Mace Windu is probably an aggressive spotter. Kit Fisto probably does mostly front squats for legs, on account of the many tentacles blocking his shoulders. Luminara and Bariss Offee are the kind people who would go to a gym for cardio instead of going outside.
Hahahahahahhaa accurate af 🤣
I'm pretty sure this sith shrine is mentioned in the canon Tarkin novel by James Luceno. It even has Plagueis' former droid helping Palpatine excavate it.
These dark secrets helped destroy the Jedi, but the Senate ultimately destroyed the Jedi.
This is true.
The Jedi were done in by their own arrogance (at least in what I consider the true canon), they allowed the Ruusan Reformation to take place, gave up their standing army, their starfighter corps, their capital ships and even their political power which turned them into recluses at best and Senate lapdogs at worst! They also stopped wearing armor and stopped teaching a lot about the force (lot of techniques fell out of favour or were actively banned!) lightsaber combat (the ancient Jedi would have repulsed Vader and the 501st, seriously! Anakin is powerful, no doubt about that, but he is just one guy! Several Jedi-Masters working together should be able to take him, but most so called masters of this era are weak, badly trained (compared to the Jedi of earlier times!) and helpless without a blade (which they, as already stated, can't even fully utilize because so much isn't taught anymore! Hell, Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku was shunned because he insisted on learning Form II Makashi, which is a duelling style of lightsaber combat focusing on a single blade (often with a curved hilt, which was looked down uppon...hell double bladed lightsabers were forbidden except for Temple Guards...so yeah, they gimped themselves!) and on lightsaber against lightsaber combat, which the Jedi thought as not neccessary, the sith were long defeated in their minds...they forgot that a) one can be fooled and b) you can not kill an idea, so even if the sith had been totally wiped out, they could have risen from preserved texts, holocrons etc.)...you might call most (except Yoda, Obi-Wan and Mace Windu) "Masters" barely knights, compared to earlier incarnations of the Order!
ps: I am not saying that the Jedi should have dominated the galaxy, but why not allow members to take up jobs (even public office - hell, some Jedi became Supreme Chancellor before Ruusan!) outside the temple? This way they remain well connected to the people and aren't seen as legends by many (easily forgotten and tarnished by imperial propaganda...COMPNOR had it easy because the Jedi shot themselves in the foot with the 12 gauge!)
@@dreamingflurry2729 true, they did not even teach true Jedi Shadows anymore. There where temple guards and shadows but swtor shadows would view them as bare initiates at the beginning of their training.
@@dreamingflurry2729 yes, by all means, they should have held onto power, because if there is 1 thing power never does, it's corrupt the one that has it.
The Jedi made a lot of mistakes that ended up contributing to its destruction. Stepping back from a standing army, etc wasn't one of them.
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The fact that the Jedi council would meditate above such a strong source of the dark side really does explain alot.
And in one final ultimate middle finger to the Jedi, Palpatine in Canon converted the temple to his Personal Palace. Just imagine being a Jedi only to discover that what was once the home of the Jedi for many millennia is now the personal home of a Sith Lord.
I would like to see much of this depicted, examined, and mentioned in The High Republic, The Bad Batch, and The Mandalorian Saga.
The Jedi were doomed from the start of covering up the darkness. Gives a whole different meaning to " destroyed from _within_ "
And that takes "Rotten to the core" a new meaning
I love that this channel is able to cover both Expanded Universe and Canon topics in a mix, Qui Gon would be proud of such balance in the force.
Guess the Jedi Temple is the Star Wars analog to the Vatican's archives here on Earth...
To protect the nexus, and cleanse the evil that had taken route at it’s heart… *Zaxbys chicken sandwi-*
I remember Vergere mentioning that force nexus towards Jacen Solo in the novel Traitor.
Right after the nexus got cracked open and a flood of debris forming a maelstrom crushing any Yuuzhan Vong ships coming close.
I love the fact that both the Senate Building and the Jedi Temple are both on mountains, because watching the prequels, you'd never be like "Oh yeah, that's obviously a mountain."
I kinda makes sense though, the warren of artificial tunnels and caverns encompassing lower coruscant probably wouldn't support such massive constructions. Plus they were probably important points well before the planet became so overbuilt.
That’s one hell of a building, especially when you consider how relatively small the Jedi Order was by the start of the Clone Wars, I mean for Obi Wan’s rescue they could only get together a little over 200 Jedi, and not all of those were Jedi knights, and many appeared to be Padawans. So even if that was only 10% of their strength, this building is still massive.
I always thought that the Jedi high consil was on top of the middle Tower
I thought that too, until this video.
The Jedi really said *"YEET!"* to that mountain.
Granted having Darth Vader/Anakin slaughter the younglings was part of his arking story of evil. It is hard to believe the Jedi had no plan to evacuate them if not out of the temple at least to a safer vault deep within during times of stress to the planet. But no. They are just hanging out in a training room with lots of windows a blaster from an orbating ship could hit them with. No hidden escape elevator to take them directly to a hanger or escape route. I mean a dozen little kids with little tiny light sabers could have torn the hell out of if not killed Skywalker before he got them all. Imagine even the now greatest lightsaber duelist in the universe trying to fend off 10 charging swinging lightsabers from every direction that are all mid chest or lower in height. Have you ever experienced trying to deal with 20 kindergarten kids out of control on your own?
That's my head canon now, lol. Vader's toughest fight other than Kenobi on Mustafar. The newly minted Sith Lord nearly killed by a bunch of 1st graders.
wouldnt he just swing his saber like a a baseball bat in true 1st lightsaber form
9:47: No, no, you got a point there. Can overlook the pun.
11:25: Hmm, how about Wayland?
Really gutsy for the Old Jedi Order to put their oldest texts and statues on the top of the temple, which is arguably the most vulnerable to orbital and long range artillery bombardment.
Also, the word "ziggurat" just sounds a bit too morbid for me when it comes to describing the Coruscant Temple... I associate that word with those Undead Scourge population/defense towers from Warcraft III (OG, not the dungheap we got last year) and those damned Necrons from Warhammer 40K.
Yeah I was thinking that too. Just picturing one little bomb whizzing down and destroying the heart of the order, essentially, without even touching the rest. It would be so easy. Like whacking off the head of a dandelion. I have to wonder if it was tried?
Because of the Sith Temple underground in Coruscant, the Jedi could not sense Palpatine as the Sith Lord Darth Sidious they've been looking for. As Count Dooku said in AotC, they(Jedi) were too blind to see it which eventually led to their downfall.
Luke's own New Jedi Temple in Yavin IV which the temple(also a headquarter base of Rebel Alliance) he built was once a Sith Temple created by Exar Kun, one of the most powerful Sith Lords during the Great Sith War.
The only difference was Luke was able to defeat Exar Kun's spirit, thus both the Light Side and Dark Side of the Force were connected each other.
I guess you could say that the problem was right underneath their noses the whole time.
Man I’ve been with this channel for years and I have to say it gets better and better every video great job man!! :D
The ancient insect hives on Alderaan. It is said that the Rakata fought wars there before humans settled on that planet centuries later.
The biggest secret hidden under the Jedi Temple was the Senate
Also known as
“The Taint of the Dark Side” 7:13
So Palpatine?
@@LPSGO84 Dunno depends on when you check because before 25 BBY the answer is no but after the answer is yes
Naw, the Jedi Temple was The Senate's ATTIC.
@@geetslys lol
Every time I hear about a clone wars arc that never came I cry a little
Oh wow I just had a huge 'what if' in the form of what if they used that 'Ashoka finds the sith shrine under the temple' for Season 7? But maybe she goes to the siege of Mandalore before she gets a chance to say what she found?
7:53 those armors loooks so similar to the gondorian one
The places strong in the Force have always been a draw for both Jedi and Sith. You would think any Jedi Knight+ would have an understanding of this principle and not be so shocked to learn their main temple was constructed over a Sith temple.
God, the off-model yoda of the original release of Phantom Menace still creeps me out
Every time he says "dark taint" in this vid. 🤣
Anyone else wonder how Coruscanti people are able to breathe on the upper levels? If there are 5127 levels thats gotta be high up. I mean the peak of this mountain is literally housed. Do they even get low level clouds anymore?
“The taint of the dark side down below…”
Listen, I tried but I could not resist giggling every time you said dark taint.
Whats really brilliant about this is how the old Jedi build over a Sith temple and a dark side nexus and get their temple destroyed, yet a few millennium later the new Jedi order (new Republic (post fall of empire and pre Yuzan Vong) with Luke and Mara) do exactly the same thing on Yavin and have the same problem with their pupils and the dark side. What was will be, what will be was.
The Jedi Temple was destroyed a lot of times during different times. The Jedi always built a new one on top of the rubble.
You forgot Yoda's ketamine stash
I tend to ignore cannon, but I do like the idea of Palps taking the temple as his palace. I prefer to think that the imperial palace we see in the original Thrawn trilogy and Dark Empire was simply the old jedi temple highly modified and built up to better appeal to palpetine's megalomania. Several books mentioned that the palace was ancient, but none of the prequels showed a palace. I believe that the temple itself was only finally uncovered when the Vong invaded couriscant and destroyed it, only to have Lord Nyax break in to feed off the dark side nexus that had been sealed away. After the Vong were repulsed, and Luke had learned of the temples location, did he decide to rebuild the jedi temple back where it was, only with a transparasteel pyramid over it to protect it.
The TAINT of the dark side remained. I am a child lmao taint
*BONK*
I really think that arc should’ve been adapted.
I feel like to much of the blame is on the Jedi for being incompetent/complacent and it would be nice to get more aspects of the sith grand plan.
It’s almost like the sith had created a “fog of war” and were hitting the Jedi order at its heart without them realizing
When you make your offense their defense. That's some 9-D chest right there
Makes more sense that in Canon it would be made into Sidious's Imperial Palace because of it's importance in the Force...
Respectfully disagree. To me (as is the case with most things in SW) Legends makes more sense. After Order 66 and the purge, Palpatine basically considered the Jedi defeated and no longer worth his time. His focus went on to building his new empire and the Imperial Palace in Legends was a testament to the Empire's image of grandeur and the Emperor's ego. By letting the Jedi temple rot abandoned and unused better reflected his contempt and disrespect for the order as he didn't even acknowledge them as something worthy of his attention, let alone a formidable adversary. Fun fact- Legends Palpatine wouldn't even allow Vader to go Jedi hunting after the purge. He forbade him from it because thats what the Inquisitors were for, and he wanted Vader to focus entirely on Imperial stuff and not legitimize the broken straggler jedi leftovers with his time and energy (although Vader hunted jedi anyway because Vader does what Vader wants!)
And, IIRC after the Yuuzhan Vong attacked Coruscant, Irek Ismaren/Lord Nyax woke up and found that wellspring in that Sith Temple.
I think I read on the Canon Wookiepedia that after the Temple became the Imperial Palace, Sidious would descend down to the Sith shrine and use it as a meditation chamber.
Ironically, this bit of information explains Anakin's fall to the dark side that much more. He had been having constant dreams and nightmares, most of those were while he was in the temple. Where you literally had a Sith shrine in the basement. In a way it's almost like the plot of the Shining. Just with less writing and more people to hack up.
a series that follows a small not so known Jedi and his/her crazy harry potter style adventures through the temple while the clone wars goes on outside the walls. do the whole series within the temple
Very good 👍 The Force nexus would explain why the Jedi built the temple on Coroscuant as opposed to Dantooine or Ossus.
I want to know the names of the most powerful objects hidden in these "secret" areas and what they can do their properties, structures,etc and pen point the most guarded of them all!!
Surely Palpatine would know once order 66 and Revenge of the Sith ended he would turn the Temple into a place for him while the Death Star was being made so surely Palpatine would've came across it...
Loved this so much. Excellent job explaining all of this. "The force is stronggg with youuuu" (Darth Sidious voice)
You should do an episode of where the Jedi got the money to build outlandish temples and other structures.
🤔 . . . If you haven’t already: Byss vs Tython …
The Jedi Order's original homeworld wasn't Ossus. It was Tython. In fact, the Jedi Order far predates the founding of the Great Library, which was founded by Jedi Master Odan-Ur sometime after the Great Hyperspace War circa 5000 BBY, until its destruction in 3996 BBY when agents of Exar Kun's Sith Brotherhood detonated the stars of the Cron Cluster using an ancient Sith superweapon.
I feel like the reason the story concept was canned is because it would probably allow the Jedi to sense that Palpatine is a Sith Lord which would go against ROTS
I could listen to you talk Star Wars lore all damn day mane keep up the amazing work
The temple(all temples really)has an old school Sumerian feel to it.
The Jedi Temple seems like a good place for a Metroid-esque map.
9:48 I audibly said "Auuugghhhhhh" out loud
This was an amazing video. I wish this clone wars arc had been made but once Ashoka found out about the dark secret wouldn't she tell the jedi? In revenge of the sith we know that this did not happen
Objectively that was a huge real estate disaster.
The title and intro are as click-baity as any magazine article, and the video as a whole did not disappoint. Nicely done!
Geetsly you are one of my favorite star wars lore youtubers.
I prefer the cannon story of palpatine living in the temple, the thoughts of him not only destroying the Jedi temple but rebuilding it to suit his evil is on brand
The taint of the dark side sounds very scary.
An innocent shell with a dark heart.
Fantastic Video. Really enjoyed it bro! I’m self isolating at the moment, so, thank you for making videos that cheer me up.
8:43 the pillars look likened lightsabers
The shrine explains why they're so lax like college students in a quad during council meetings.
Could you please go over the oldest existing/known Jedi artifacts, knowledge and texts? Then maybe go over those belonging to the Sith in another video?
Yea the Jedi are already sending assassins to your location. They can’t ruin their rep
I wish their was a game where you can choose what kind of jedi you become and be able to explore courosant and the courosant jedi temple and explore courosant and otger planets
That's where Windu has been the whole time. Lower levels of the sith sanctuary.
This is awesome !! Always wanted to know the secrets of The Jedi Temple.
Anybody else notice the evil face in the clouds at the very beginning of the video? Its a little tp the left of the towers on the jedi temple
it looks like Sidious
9:47-9:52: Ha ha ha, very funny. (Whispers into a communicator) Execute Order 66 on Geetsly for that.
lol.
Wish we could get a game where we could explore the temple freely
Only the Jedi could be so incompetent as to build their sacred temple on top of a Sith temple then forget that it was there.
Hmmmm
*starts planning my next arc in my staw wars themed dnd campaign*
Personally my headcanon is the nexus grew out of the order’s control with the return of the Sith and with taking time and investing and growing so strong the Sith that followed the rule of two both intentionally and unintentionally influenced it. I believe the nexus was feeding the Jedi a false sense of security and with arrogance breeding arrogance, the belief the Sith were extinct, as well as abandoning their principles for the sake serving the senate on top of their numbers being so abundant….
All this played so well and perfectly, the Sith’s involvement was only literally half of the reason but it gave reason to hide and disguise themselves so well until it was far too late
The original saga is the most interesting and compelling cinematic story ever told.
The Jedi Temple is one of the best architecture ever.
Ah cool, didn't know there was actually several buildings inside the building we usually see.
3:10 Do you mean to say, that the ancient Jedi-texts aren't among the interesting stuff? B^)
Geetyly’s: “You could say they were… ‘In the dark’ about the whole affair.”
Me: “Welp, guess it’s time for another sacking of Coruscant.”
Do you think maybe they'll revisit the idea during the Ahsoka show maybe that would be amazing
That is some interesting star wars dark secrets
the ggreat galactic war is an era my knolage is greater
I wanna know about Coruscant before it was completely urbanised.
I saw videos about this but your is in my opinion the best.
So the whole time before and during the clone wars, the jedi were sitting on what was considered the sacred and purist spots in the Republic capital. Turned out to be a practically forgotten Sith smoke and gun that Palpatine used against them by blinding their sight to see throughthe force, and tearing the JediOrderapart from the inside out. No wonder Palpatine made it into his palace, and why Luke didn't go and made it back to a Jedi temple. Maybe they'll cover the dungeon and Sith well in the Ahsoka series, or maybe in the Bad Batch season 2 (thought that one might be a long shot).
The jedi were actually founded on Tython, Ossus was just one of the oldest strongholds/temples
Its just prooves wherever there is light... darknes is sure to follow.. I wouldve def paid to see season 8 of the clone wars dive into the secrets of the temple
imagine clone war have an 8th season and imagine it actually talked about the shrine in bad batch somehow