Darn, you're right. Having Ben go Ultimate Big Chill against the group of Necrofriggians would've been a really good idea. It could've been a really good way to show off power differences between regular and ultimate forms (which are sometimes vague otherwise). And it could've explored characters' reactions to seeing evolved versions of themselves.
There are a lot of missed opportunities of Ben either not going ultimate or going the wrong ultimate. Here we could have seen him go Ult Big Chill to show the gap between an Ultimate alien vs its base counterpart. And he should have gone Ultimate in Video Games because Harangue wouldn't have any data on how his Ultimates fight. But nope. Not what we got.
Imagine if Ben went Ultimate Big Chill and the priests see him as an abomination, so he has to fight all of them (and show the difference in power). And Greg then taunts him for it too. Would flow really well. I would love if Kuro made a video similar to "Fixing the Negative 10", but for Ultimate Aliens
yeah, i loved the fight between Vilgax's humungousaur army and albedo as ultimate humungousaur in the alien force finale... maybe something like that in this episode could've made it even better
My theory about how Terraspin's mana immunity works is that their species' incredibly peaceful ways have led them to evolve that ability, to be more in-tune with mana and being able to gracefully move around its effects. In addition the White Necrofrigians we see here lead me to believe that Big Chill does have natural camouflage on his home world, much like how moths do. It's that ability that Ultimate Big Chill sheds, dropping passive defenses for more active power. And yes, Ult. Echo Echo is best ultimate.
Basically they've been so peaceful, for so long that the species naturally has a low level mana sensitivity, they can't attack but, they can redirect and absorb it? I can vibe with that
Makes a lot of sense tbf Ultimate big chill drops his camouflage to act as a warning Like how bright colours means dangerous in nature here. And nothing stands out against ice like fire does
On the thing about aggressive Ben, in Secrets of the Omnitrix after Ben goes Rage Mode he effortlessly bursts through the sealed doors with Cannonbolt. Where as Four Arms barely made a dent in a manhole. I always thought Ben kinda followed Superman’s whole “Cardboard World” philosophy personally. So he never actually goes all out unless he needs to.
I've always disliked the "I was holding back" excuse for sudden power boosts It makes it seem like they just don't try for 90% of the time even when getting their ass handed to them, which is pretty dumb
@@conradlorgar5508 that can be countered by the fact that the character refuses to kill, so they absolutely cannot go all out on the opponents who could get killed with one punch.
it's commonly stated that durability is one of Water Hazard's best traits due to him being an deep oceanic alien with an exoskeleton, so while still somewhat questionable, it makes sense why Greg attributed his durability to Bivalvin
@Dawid Stawowski while true, all of Pandor disappeared, including the armour when absorbed. Also you can see the armour in Ultimate Greg's neck so you can assume it was absorbed as well.
@@lilylopnco Honestly I just interpret it as Greg just one "instinct" calling it armor and not a shell. Like yea its a shell but even I would sometimes refer to it as armor if I wasn't thinking about it too much.
Honestly your talk about a more enraged Ben just proves the point that, like his choice to not use alien x unless absolutely necessary, Ben is typically holding back.
I mean to be fair Kuro did mention that there are times when Ben doesn't fight as efficiently as he did here when he absolutely should but the series was always pretty inconsistent with that since the classic series.
The problem is Ben isn't consistent with his effort... when the universe is at stake Ben doesn't even bother using Ultimate against the big threat but Vulcanus and his minions? Yeah ultimate baby! He randomly chooses to try harder on battles he doesn't need too but when he's enraged against Agraggor he doesn't even bother going all out with humungousaur... nor does he when agraggor is mere moments away from achieving his goal... There were multiple times ben could've stopped agraggor but didn't bother... if anything I feel he went harder against Ultimate Kevin than he did agraggor... Hell he busted out Waybig against Gwen his own cousin... where was that energy when agraggor was about to become a god...?
Always felt greg got the andromeda 5 for unique reasons Bivalvin- the durability to withstand the traps on Mik’lty P’andor- to survive space not having to breath Galapegus- the immunity to mana to easily go through legerdomain Andreas- the strength to brutality smash through the perplexahedron Raad- to traverse through the harsh waters of piscciss Idk something to think about
I know that Ben used AmpFibian in pisciss and that was great ‘cause he could breathe and fight and stuff. But him using the others of the Andromeda Five would’ve really highlighted why these guys were needed for Aggregor to get the map pieces.
Said it before, gonna again:-"why go through all this hassle, rounding up and stealing their powers if he just gonna let our heroes do all the heavy lifting"? Pointless!
I think Azmuth called the Omnitrix Core "The Ultimatrix" because it was the prototype for the Final, oficial Omnitrix he gave Ben at the end of UA. But was stolen by Albedo and put into his own versión of the watch and modified to add the Evolutionary Function rather sloppy. Like forcing a machine into something that doesn't need it and make that work but barely holds together.
@@Samrules888 To be fair, the Ultimatrix has glitches and lack of features that mades it the worst version so far. For example, It can't repair genetic damage or turns Ben back to his default outfit, making it dangerous to use in planets where a human can't survive
@@Samrules888 Technically the prototype Omnitrix post reboot pre Ben screwing with it was the nost reliable iteration of the Omnitrix. The Ultimatrix was as unreliable as the Omnitrix pre reboot and after Ben damaged it in AF season 3.
@@eduardomunoz4387 Well that's what happens when a smart idiot steals an unfinished product and makes their own. Though the finished Omnitrix didn't hold up either. I really didn't appreciate the writers throwing in Random ridiculous features and not even making it hack proof for comedic effect in Omniverse when that was supposed to be the ultimate complete version of the ultimate piece of technology.
Imagine if Ben went Ultimate Big Chill and the priests see him as an abomination, so he has to fight all of them (and show the difference in power). And Greg then taunts him for it too. Would flow really well. I would love if Kuro made a video similar to "Fixing the Negative 10", but for Ultimate Aliens
What I like about ultimate alien is how the bigger story arcs are chaining from one to the next. The andromeda 5 leads right into the map of infinity that leads right into ultimate Kevin. This is one of the things that ,makes ultimate alien my personal favorite
The only problem I have with it is what does it do for the rest of the franchise? Just like the classic season 3 arc it seems like there’s no real purpose for arcs like these I mean at least the vilgax and highbreed arcs had purpose
@@paulakroy2635 in the context of entertainment: it doesn’t because of how fun it is In the context of the rest of the franchise: yes or else it’d be a waste of time
@@jvbon646 the vilgax arc introduced Ben to vilgax who’d be his worst enemy (or at least in classic), Max’s secret gets revealed as a plumber and that inspires Ben himself to be a plumber and Ben finds out what the watch is called which leads to him wanting to know more about it in season 2 and the highbreed arc is what made Ben a galaxy wide hero which kinda was the theme for season 3
I honestly love Greg having his normal voice. Really shows that Greg seemingly is in more control than Kevin ever could be yet with those kinds of powers.
With a sleek design, a cool voice with an equally cool filter and a versatile way of using his soundwave sonic disc attack... It's no wonder why Ultimate Echo Echo is a lot of people's favourite Ultimate form. Myself included.
Something that's always stuck in my mind anytime Ultimate Echo-Echo is brought up is we know 1 of the Abilities he loses is to Duplicate in exchange for the other enhanced/new Abilities but the 3 Split Ben Episode implies he could just go into Base Echo-Echo, Duplicate himself say 3 times for this example, then all 3 of those go Ultimate at the same time thereby ignoring the Duplication Removal but still gaining the Ability boosts.
@@N.I.A23 same for me with Ultimate Big Chill, a form of Matter that near instantly goes from Flaming Plasma to Solid Ice is just such a cool concept. Also I'm always a sucker for Blue Designs that invert to Red and vise versa.
9:33 my only assumption is that Azmuth only referred to it as “The Ultimate Omnitrix” and not an actual “Ultimatrix” with an evolutionary function. As the Omnitrix resembles universal peace, The Ultimatrix represents universal war because of War-Evolved transformations
Maybe the Ultimatrix was the original design for the third version of the Omnitrix (the Omniverse one) but after Albedo's theft of it, Azmuth just made a new one.
If Kuro was somehow isekai’d into the Ben 10 universe, met Aggregor and called him Greg as a nickname I Bet the trio would be laughing so much and Aggregor would be so pissed off
It would’ve been cool if Grandpa Max stayed with the team to find the other pieces of the map but I understand why McDuffie and company wrote him out to recover from his injuries. It makes his return in the season finale all the sweeter. I too am a fan of his combat outfit which provides a nice alternative to the Hawaiian shirt without going full Plumber gear.
9:45 could you imagine how much of a trainwreck it would be if azmith did give ben the omniverse omnitrix here? The hunt for aggregor would be such a disaster lol, ben took like a full season or 2 to become even slightly good with that watch
I feel as though this was great way to expand the celestial sapien lore, to question what the ultimate power was and to give much more importance to both them and alien x
It's fascinating that Ben doesn't even try to use Ghostfreak/Big Chill to phase through the wall or use Brainstorm/Gray Matter to solve/find a switch. Ben still uses the Omnirix as a weapon instead of a Swiss Army Knife kind of tool.
I really wished we had more insight of Greg following the Trio. Like after the Nerofriggians let them go, they've would've heard some foot steps coming their way. That would help build some fear into the people watching the show and explain how there wasn't any Nerofriggians when the trio came back.
@@axelnilsson5124 I'm just saying it's a great episode, I knew it would get a full breakdown, I think it'd deserve one if it wasn't a season premiere, I didn't see the relevance of pointing it out is all.
15:03 like it sounds incredible that galvins can replace an entire central nervous system(presumably with minimal long term side effects), but it is even more impressive when you remember another term for the central nervous system is the brain
I love the lore of this temple. It makes me wonder if one of Big Chill's children would ever go there. Fun fact: In my story, Big Chill's grandson, Kafu Tennyson is the guardian of that temple, and it possess artifacts from all over the multiverse.
I really thought there could have been a neat fight if Kevin absorbed two aliens out of Aggregor and evened it up before Greg absorbed them back out of him. Even if it were one time before Ultimate Kevin became a thing, it could have been a nod towards how far Kevin would go to protect Ben and Gwen, and how bad it would mess him up
Aggressive Ben is definitely something haha. Honestly some moments that to this day I still really love are the classics scenes vs Mutated Fourarms Kevin and the Death God (forget exact details) when Ben is Fourarms and gets super aggressive at both as the watch is running out of time. Just lays down such an unbelievable beatdown on both and god was that just so badass to see.
I noticed that when Ultamite Greg has Gwen's shield dissipate, it starts on the chest where terraspins body part is. That's really neat attention to detail
26:30 The map of infinity pieces do have to be collected in a certain order because the perplexahedron wouldn't let aggregor enter without the first 3 pieces
5:50 On Galapagus not being able to be harmed by Mana, my theory is just like Turtles on Earth Terraspin's people also live a long time. But unlike Turtles on Earth it's not because of a slowed metabolism, it's because they passively absorb the energy around them. Not on the level of say an Asmosian, but kinda like how humans absorb sunlight. Meaning consentrated energy like Mana being used on them would just be absorbed. This could also be used to explain how there bodies are basically jet turbines, they would take in energy like sunlight or maybe even through just there diets. That would give them the ability to spin that fast.
@@randomturd1415 His Omni mutation is awesome. It looks like something out of Sid's playroom. It genuinely feels like a chimera, with stuff like rocks, lego bricks, fairy wings, pterodactyl wings, bug legs. I feel like Omniverse aliens being such recognizeable archetypes, with such different tones, really show what a hodgepodge Kevin's mutation is.
3:02 OG kevins mutaion is a masterpiece of an amalgam. There isn’t a single corner of him that’s not cool to look at and the asymetric placement of the body parts makes all the more respectable to animate. I don’t think i ever like ultimate gregs look, and i’ve only grown to detest it more as time has passed. 8:09 you know what, at this point i’m very surprised los Soledad isn’t just a crater in the ground by the time omniverse starts. 8:38 I dunno, I don’t feel like the series would be the same without the street tier villains. Wouldn’t wanna discard them at least… 9:39 my headcanon is that Azmuth had his own idea for an evolution feature that was simply meant to help alien species better adapt to new eras they weren’t suited for. But albedo totally weaponized the function, to azmuths disgust and caution. 10:13 the ultimatrix was always cooler in albedo’s arsenal than it was for bens. It would’ve been cool to see the two have a proper confrontation of ben managing to use the non evolved aliens to their full potential and pull out a win against their evoved counterparts. 12:00 cept when its a powerful aztec sword I guess pfft. 18:29 probably one of the coolest planets in the show honestly! Both fantastical, but built under the premise of real science. 18:58 they’re so rad! The idea if them coming in different colors was already a game changer. Their ol school reverence compared to bens big chill persona was perfect as well. Azmuths intent for the omnitrix put to work. 24:43 kinda?! Thr icy hot dragon is absolutely amazing! One of the coolest monsters in the show! I think it would make for a really cool nemetrix form! I wouldn’t say they beat it *effortlessly* either. 27:28 another plot convenience for greg I can’t stand, he could’ve at least bothered to try and kill them once he was on the other side.
I really wish Azmuth threw Albedo a bone and said the Ultimate function is an useful Tool Even if Azmuth still doesn't entirely approve it but recognizces it Only is a weapon depending who uses it
Kevin 11 is definitely the most uncreative amalgam in the franchise at least with every other amalgam mutation it genuinely looks like a combination of each alien in various sections of the body while Kevin 11 takes 1 attribute of each alien and slaps it together
@@ianr.navahuber2195 azmuth cutting albedo any slack? Impossible! He’s still A Jerk for sure but I get why albedo has a grudge with the old absentee grouch.
@@axelnilsson5124 alright, it was simple. But it worked in its simplicity. Looking chaotic while still resembling a functioning organism. He didn’t have a dumb, humany face plastered onto the head either.
10:29 Azmuth: I was _going_ to turn off the connection to Primus to temporarily deactivate the Omnitrix, and what does that boy do? _Blow up my life's work!_ 14:25 You don't mention it, but you can see a little patch where the animators didn't correctly color in the ribs. 25:22 Well, to be fair, it's implied Ben could change from an ultimate alien to a normal alien in The Final Battle when he goes from Ultimate Swampfire to Jetray. As for why he needs to change back to the normal alien before turning back into Ben... You got me there.
I rewatched this episode in preparation for this, and when Ben started fighting Agragor I thought it was gonna be an actual fight, and then Humonasaur just started kicking his shit in and I was like "oh he's just GOING isn't he"
Def the reason they bring up waterhazerds armor is because he's like a mollusk type creature. The aliens name is even a reference to bivalves a type of mollusk.
I think if they made Greg’s chest, arms and legs the same color as his neck the design would be a lot more imposing. Especially if they gave his little fiery details all over.
You know… weird headcanon. Maybe the Celestialsapiens and Paradox have issues because of the Chronal Randomization Barrier. They might’ve gotten insanely offended that Paradox deigned to give them protection. I mean, they believe that they are the absolute strongest beings in the Universe. Having a random human make a barrier around them might be insanely offensive to them.
15:27 - I don't think "damage to nervous system" works like that at all. Max should be paralyzed. But I wouldn't say it's too much of a stretch to say that super advanced Galvan tech can recover nerve cells
26:24 I think you have to do the perplexahedron last. Because you need to be worthy to enter it. And when Greg says he has 3 parts of the map and the thing lets him in.
Hate how Gwen is always stopping Ben from harming threats. I know it's still for kids so we can't have main character murder, but just let him be sure he was done
16:00 you know..this video made me realize that azmuth would've known the map of infinity and forge of creation a long time ago cuz he would've gone there to get alien x DNA in the first place..
I think canonically, the Perplexehedron piece has to be collected last because the contraption only allowed Greg to enter when he presented the first 3 pieces.
16:14 It also goes to show how making Celestialsapiens able to do ANYTHING makes them more boring. It'smore interesting that they had to rely on Paradox for something, it implies that they have history, maybe even he's friends with some celestialsapiens. Making Celestialsapiens omnipotent makes any interaction they have with other aliens one sided and predictible.
9:17 The way I always interpreted Azmuths hate for the Ultimatrix was that the only part Azmuth actually built was the central core (not the power core), and Albedo’s handiwork was the ultimate program as well the gauntlet casing, and what Azmuth is taking offence to is the gauntlets design. And it makes sense, considering having human fingers would make it harder to replicate, and it was “confirmed” the replica made for Ken was created using Ben’s smaller forms.
Hey Kuro, I've rewatched this episode several times now and wanted to share a couple thoughts, sorry if they sound scatter brain. When Greg says he's invulnerable as Bivalven's armor, that could be because his species need to have an exoskeleton that can withstand pressure of insanely deep depths, and thus is incredibly durable, doubt it was thought of at the time but it's just a thought. Separate thoughts are I would love to see O.R.Ash try to make an ultimate Greg but how he would combine the Andromeda 5 with base form Greg.(if kuro actually reads this. Thank you so much for everything you and the Ink Tank crew do. Last thought I promise, i would love to hear your thoughts on if the osmosian race existing wasn't retconned, where would you have liked it to go in reference to Kevin's storyline
My mother has nerve damage from a car accident and I can say that Max seems to have similar problems. The damage was caused by her bones breaking in a way that cut her nerves. Muscle pain and migraines were the worst part but she was still able to care for two toddlers on her own. So I think Max' condition is believable, if the laser he was hit with was more of a concussive force.
I have a theory on the Osmosian lore, a theory that makes both versions of it canon. This all relies on the completely unsubstantiated idea that when Servantis let the Rooters go, he didn't necessarily WIPE their memories, but were given fake ones. The memories that they gave Aggregor were effectively an entire life on Osmos V. His robots were, as such, programmed to also be aware of Osmos V and its location in the universe. The reason Aggregor didn't try and go home was because he immediately set his sights on his mission to the Forge of Creation. However, when Ben recreated the universe, he was under the impression that Osmos V did exist. We also know that he failed to recreate the universe exactly. I propose that when he remade the universe, he also brought into existence Osmos V, Devin and all other Osmosians. This would make both versions of the Osmosian lore canon and, whilst it's admittedly complicated, would make sense from what I remember of the Ben 10 lore off the top of my head.
6:30 yeah that always confused me. But then I came to the conclusion Geochelone Aerios disrupts mana abilities. Less like absorbing and/or nullifying more, but instead undoing mana manipulation powers. The shield was undone, because the GA species emit a field that cause any mana attacks or techniques to stop working. Like mana disruptor field. Also the field itself doesn’t instantly undue mana attacks. It takes a couple of seconds. That’s why quick attacks are able to hurt the GA species. And why the the shield was able to form instead of being instantly undone. Also I alway thought this is why Addwaitya ruled Legerdomain. His ability to undo spells that should imprison and or weaken him, would make him a difficult foe. And if he could weaken spells, use spells, and having access to the Alpha Rue. He’d be unstoppable. And the only reason Charmcaster defeated him was because he was weaken and she learned new spells to defeat him. Ones that do damage over time but instant hard hitting damage damage.
@6:58 now that you mention it, I think that's one of the biggest things that bugged me about U. Greg, being not only is PANDOR not really incorporated much in the design, but it uses his armor instead of his true form. I think if his neck region flared up and was wreathed in the true forms radiation, almost like a collar or mane, it could've potentially been something really cool
In response to 9:26 (if I had to guess), the ultimatrix was originally designed to have the welder experience the ultimate version of the Omnitrix's datadumb. Allowing the welder to not only walk a mile in the specie's shoes, but whole lifetimes. Which would explain why the evolution feature would be 'added on' (meaning the Ultimate forms wasn't intended) & build apon the original reason the Omnitrix was made.
My favourite M.o.I. episode was the cube one. THAT WAS A WILD ONE! plus a cool homage to The Cube and Paradox's insane power and knowledge to somehow make that kind of thing.
It's actually sad that ben never went this hard on agreggor when it mattered, he could've easily destroyed him here if he went Waybig or even Ultimate humangasaur. What's even more annoying is that when Agreggor was in the verge of succeeding, ben still didn't take him seriously.
5:44 don’t forget Galapagus’ shell. 6:11 That’s how Gwen’s spell was able to affect terraspin in absolute power. 10:54 Maybe Ben was hoping that Vilgax would believe him, give back the watch and feels bad that he couldn’t save it. 11:42 remnants of the original planet. 18:13 I always imagine the helmets folding up from the suit like buzz lightyear’s. 34:01 sounds like good plot to me.
9:39 This is my theory I think the ultramatrix was meant to be azmuths best Omnitrix of all time, hence the "ultra" part I think albedo just added the ultimate feature on top of it and took the name from azmuth, but this core was dumbed down so albedo would just have his galvan form, plus other forms and ultimates. He never intended for Ben to take it from him
6:03 wasn’t that spell “Eradico” supposed to make the target spontaneously combust (Charmcaster used it to defeat a rock monster)? If so, Galapagos’ ability probably just made the spell bounced of into a sphere then disappear. Also, WHY DID GWEN TRY TO STOP BEN WHEN SHE HERSELF TRIED TO MAKE GREG BLOWUP FROM THE INSIDE?
later they are really going wild with gwen’s magic when they meet the future ultimate Ben. She is literallyusing “statua” to freeze EVERY version of Ben like how didn’t she use it before or later when she has to deal with the (probabl) millions of Esoterica?
Sooo two theories I'd like to propose: Regarding Aggregor, I think there are a couple of things you can notice: one, his form is more... orderly compared to Kevin's. Whereas Kevin's was a chaotic amalgam where various pieces were combined, Ultimate Aggregor is very symetrical, with the pieces of the Andromeda Five organized in a way that makes his form coherent. I kinda theorized that's because he has a more refined control of his powers and used a machine to further perfect the process, hence the result is less messy and grotesque. Another detail I noticed is a shift in his behaviour: as his regular self, Aggregor mostly was cold, direct and stoic, usually not talking much; as Ultimate Aggregor, he's noticeably hammier, enjoying himself more and more taunting. This might be intended as a hint that, just like Kevin, his sanity has been affected; he's just more subtle about it. Regarding Ben being more ruthless and aggressive resulting in him being more efficient: I believe this is intentional. See, I have that theory that Ben's arc over the course of Ultimate Alien is about him being tempted to become more ruthless and aggressive. Aggregor is the first villain to *really* push him to this edge by defeating him repeatedly, which later results in him being more eager to kill Kevin. And we'll see that culminate in the Dagon arc, when Vilgax tempts him to use Dagon's power to eradicate evil. Regarding your rating, I notice something funny about Ultimate: it goes up and down. It gives us both some of the best and the worst episodes.
27:16 Well, unless you look at Kevin. Because kevin had no manners in AF because he used to break Ben's lock a few times. And i just think that either Aggregor is teasing Kevin or this is just another fake memory when they based the traits of Osmosians from Kevin.
We hardly ever see Ben rage out like in this episode. I love that whole scene.
Same, one of the only times ben has fought with the intention to kill.
Same, though I wished he went Ultimate as well lol
Absolute Power
@@elliotnutella8044 Ben intention to kill since he was 10
May be his humangosaur personality overs him
Some of his aliens acts differently i mean as difference spicies they all have their own traits
Darn, you're right. Having Ben go Ultimate Big Chill against the group of Necrofriggians would've been a really good idea. It could've been a really good way to show off power differences between regular and ultimate forms (which are sometimes vague otherwise). And it could've explored characters' reactions to seeing evolved versions of themselves.
There are a lot of missed opportunities of Ben either not going ultimate or going the wrong ultimate. Here we could have seen him go Ult Big Chill to show the gap between an Ultimate alien vs its base counterpart. And he should have gone Ultimate in Video Games because Harangue wouldn't have any data on how his Ultimates fight. But nope. Not what we got.
Imagine if Ben went Ultimate Big Chill and the priests see him as an abomination, so he has to fight all of them (and show the difference in power). And Greg then taunts him for it too. Would flow really well.
I would love if Kuro made a video similar to "Fixing the Negative 10", but for Ultimate Aliens
yeah, i loved the fight between Vilgax's humungousaur army and albedo as ultimate humungousaur in the alien force finale... maybe something like that in this episode could've made it even better
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 that's a really cool idea, Kuro should do that
@Kureiton That sounds even more interesting than the worshipping angle, in my opinion. Thematically really fitting!
My theory about how Terraspin's mana immunity works is that their species' incredibly peaceful ways have led them to evolve that ability, to be more in-tune with mana and being able to gracefully move around its effects.
In addition the White Necrofrigians we see here lead me to believe that Big Chill does have natural camouflage on his home world, much like how moths do. It's that ability that Ultimate Big Chill sheds, dropping passive defenses for more active power.
And yes, Ult. Echo Echo is best ultimate.
Or maybe they’re neighbors with an anodite colony thus evolving the specie to be used by the mana that it doesn’t bother them
@@axelnilsson5124 perhaps.
I like the big chill theory
Basically they've been so peaceful, for so long that the species naturally has a low level mana sensitivity, they can't attack but, they can redirect and absorb it? I can vibe with that
Makes a lot of sense tbf
Ultimate big chill drops his camouflage to act as a warning
Like how bright colours means dangerous in nature here. And nothing stands out against ice like fire does
On the thing about aggressive Ben, in Secrets of the Omnitrix after Ben goes Rage Mode he effortlessly bursts through the sealed doors with Cannonbolt. Where as Four Arms barely made a dent in a manhole. I always thought Ben kinda followed Superman’s whole “Cardboard World” philosophy personally. So he never actually goes all out unless he needs to.
Cannonbolt can survive falling through Earth's atmosphere, dude's just a frickin' tank
@@talphazero1036 he's also the only one strong enough to defeat the Tick.
@@strangerkryptonair5774 lol
I've always disliked the "I was holding back" excuse for sudden power boosts
It makes it seem like they just don't try for 90% of the time even when getting their ass handed to them, which is pretty dumb
@@conradlorgar5508 that can be countered by the fact that the character refuses to kill, so they absolutely cannot go all out on the opponents who could get killed with one punch.
Kuro renaming Agreggor to Greg has unironically made me like the character more.
Greg heffley stomps
Same xD
UL-TIMATE -AG-REG-GOR,instead of UL-TIMATE greg. LAMEST NAME EVE
Yes
Same
Ben is just like Peter Parker when he’s Mad
No more jokes, No more snappy one liners, No more MERCY
Funny that yuri lowenthal has played both characters
*And Sasuke, although Sasuke has never been one for mercy or snappy one liners*
it's commonly stated that durability is one of Water Hazard's best traits due to him being an deep oceanic alien with an exoskeleton, so while still somewhat questionable, it makes sense why Greg attributed his durability to Bivalvin
I think the weird part was calling it "armor" instead of a shell/exoskeleton
still think Pandor should have more durable armour, as a big deal in his episode was how strong it was
@Dawid Stawowski while true, all of Pandor disappeared, including the armour when absorbed. Also you can see the armour in Ultimate Greg's neck so you can assume it was absorbed as well.
Exactly, only issue is his first debut episode where he durability is not used well(the fact Max smacked him hard)
@@lilylopnco Honestly I just interpret it as Greg just one "instinct" calling it armor and not a shell. Like yea its a shell but even I would sometimes refer to it as armor if I wasn't thinking about it too much.
Really wished you talked about Kevin’s “Ultimate Echo Ultimate Echo” joke. It’s honestly my favorite joke in the series.
Yeah, I really enjoyed that joke!
@Hall of the Divine Throne dude shut up
@Hall of the Divine Throne Nah man, I appreciate the offer but I'm already working for Vilgax
@Hall of the Divine Throne we're all going to hell anyway. Who cares?
@Hall of the Divine Throne you know it’s actually in the Bible that if you wear a piece of clothing that has mixed fabrics, you go to hell
5:11 "I didn't feel a thing" Greg, Bro you were groaning in pain seconds ago, don't act like Ben wasn't about murder you 💀
I always assumed that was a bluff.
Honestly your talk about a more enraged Ben just proves the point that, like his choice to not use alien x unless absolutely necessary, Ben is typically holding back.
Almost always
I mean to be fair Kuro did mention that there are times when Ben doesn't fight as efficiently as he did here when he absolutely should but the series was always pretty inconsistent with that since the classic series.
The problem is Ben isn't consistent with his effort... when the universe is at stake Ben doesn't even bother using Ultimate against the big threat but Vulcanus and his minions? Yeah ultimate baby!
He randomly chooses to try harder on battles he doesn't need too but when he's enraged against Agraggor he doesn't even bother going all out with humungousaur... nor does he when agraggor is mere moments away from achieving his goal...
There were multiple times ben could've stopped agraggor but didn't bother... if anything I feel he went harder against Ultimate Kevin than he did agraggor...
Hell he busted out Waybig against Gwen his own cousin... where was that energy when agraggor was about to become a god...?
Always holding back
Always felt greg got the andromeda 5 for unique reasons
Bivalvin- the durability to withstand the traps on Mik’lty
P’andor- to survive space not having to breath
Galapegus- the immunity to mana to easily go through legerdomain
Andreas- the strength to brutality smash through the perplexahedron
Raad- to traverse through the harsh waters of piscciss
Idk something to think about
Those are solid points
these are the exactly reasons why greg pick them lmao
I know that Ben used AmpFibian in pisciss and that was great ‘cause he could breathe and fight and stuff.
But him using the others of the Andromeda Five would’ve really highlighted why these guys were needed for Aggregor to get the map pieces.
It’s explained on the wiki
Said it before, gonna again:-"why go through all this hassle, rounding up and stealing their powers if he just gonna let our heroes do all the heavy lifting"? Pointless!
"I am one of everybody" have to be one if not THE strongest line in whole franchise
That line would have been good to use wend Ben transformed in to every aliens he had unlocked to stop Maltruent big bang.
I think Azmuth called the Omnitrix Core "The Ultimatrix" because it was the prototype for the Final, oficial Omnitrix he gave Ben at the end of UA. But was stolen by Albedo and put into his own versión of the watch and modified to add the Evolutionary Function rather sloppy. Like forcing a machine into something that doesn't need it and make that work but barely holds together.
yet the ultimatrix is probably the most reliable iteration of the omnitrix and the completed omnitrix fucks up constantly
@@Samrules888 To be fair, the Ultimatrix has glitches and lack of features that mades it the worst version so far. For example, It can't repair genetic damage or turns Ben back to his default outfit, making it dangerous to use in planets where a human can't survive
@@eduardomunoz4387 it was the only one that let Ben die
@@Samrules888 Technically the prototype Omnitrix post reboot pre Ben screwing with it was the nost reliable iteration of the Omnitrix.
The Ultimatrix was as unreliable as the Omnitrix pre reboot and after Ben damaged it in AF season 3.
@@eduardomunoz4387 Well that's what happens when a smart idiot steals an unfinished product and makes their own.
Though the finished Omnitrix didn't hold up either. I really didn't appreciate the writers throwing in Random ridiculous features and not even making it hack proof for comedic effect in Omniverse when that was supposed to be the ultimate complete version of the ultimate piece of technology.
28:13 I CAME IN LIKE A CANNON BOLT
Imagine if Ben went Ultimate Big Chill and the priests see him as an abomination, so he has to fight all of them (and show the difference in power). And Greg then taunts him for it too. Would flow really well.
I would love if Kuro made a video similar to "Fixing the Negative 10", but for Ultimate Aliens
3:19
Kuro: And he's not stoppin' either.
Me: NOT 'TIL HE'S DEAD! FOR GALAPAGUS! FOR ANDREAS! FOR RA'AD! FOR BIVALVAN! FOR P'ANDOR! FOR EVERYTHING!
What I like about ultimate alien is how the bigger story arcs are chaining from one to the next. The andromeda 5 leads right into the map of infinity that leads right into ultimate Kevin. This is one of the things that ,makes ultimate alien my personal favorite
The only problem I have with it is what does it do for the rest of the franchise? Just like the classic season 3 arc it seems like there’s no real purpose for arcs like these I mean at least the vilgax and highbreed arcs had purpose
@@axelnilsson5124 why do arcs need to have purpose
@@paulakroy2635 in the context of entertainment: it doesn’t because of how fun it is
In the context of the rest of the franchise: yes or else it’d be a waste of time
@@axelnilsson5124
What's the purpose of the Highbreed and Vilgax arcs?
@@jvbon646 the vilgax arc introduced Ben to vilgax who’d be his worst enemy (or at least in classic), Max’s secret gets revealed as a plumber and that inspires Ben himself to be a plumber and Ben finds out what the watch is called which leads to him wanting to know more about it in season 2 and the highbreed arc is what made Ben a galaxy wide hero which kinda was the theme for season 3
I honestly love Greg having his normal voice. Really shows that Greg seemingly is in more control than Kevin ever could be yet with those kinds of powers.
With a sleek design, a cool voice with an equally cool filter and a versatile way of using his soundwave sonic disc attack...
It's no wonder why Ultimate Echo Echo is a lot of people's favourite Ultimate form. Myself included.
It’s the only Ultimate unique enough to be it’s own transformation, too bad it got locked behind the evolution gimmick
@@Andrew-Bastin
If he was nerfed a bit he could've been a great design for a sound based alien in AF.
Ultimate spider-monkey holds a special place in my heart. Mostly because I love venom and he's the venom to regular spider-monkey.
Something that's always stuck in my mind anytime Ultimate Echo-Echo is brought up is we know 1 of the Abilities he loses is to Duplicate in exchange for the other enhanced/new Abilities but the 3 Split Ben Episode implies he could just go into Base Echo-Echo, Duplicate himself say 3 times for this example, then all 3 of those go Ultimate at the same time thereby ignoring the Duplication Removal but still gaining the Ability boosts.
@@N.I.A23 same for me with Ultimate Big Chill, a form of Matter that near instantly goes from Flaming Plasma to Solid Ice is just such a cool concept. Also I'm always a sucker for Blue Designs that invert to Red and vise versa.
They made a planet that's half burning half freezing and they name it after a burger advertised to to have a "hot side hot" and a "cool side cool".
This
9:33 my only assumption is that Azmuth only referred to it as “The Ultimate Omnitrix” and not an actual “Ultimatrix” with an evolutionary function. As the Omnitrix resembles universal peace, The Ultimatrix represents universal war because of War-Evolved transformations
Maybe the Ultimatrix was the original design for the third version of the Omnitrix (the Omniverse one) but after Albedo's theft of it, Azmuth just made a new one.
If Kuro was somehow isekai’d into the Ben 10 universe, met Aggregor and called him Greg as a nickname I Bet the trio would be laughing so much and Aggregor would be so pissed off
That would be neat. Give him Danny Phantom's powers, too. Why not, eh?
Imagine Paradox just nonchalantly walk in and call him Gregory with the most posh british accent he's got
Agreggor: "Say greg one more time kuro, i dare you"
Albino Necrofriggians always astounded me with their look whenever I got to rewatch this episode
It would’ve been cool if Grandpa Max stayed with the team to find the other pieces of the map but I understand why McDuffie and company wrote him out to recover from his injuries. It makes his return in the season finale all the sweeter. I too am a fan of his combat outfit which provides a nice alternative to the Hawaiian shirt without going full Plumber gear.
He wouldn’t Survive the journey
28:06 best part of the video hands down.
9:45 could you imagine how much of a trainwreck it would be if azmith did give ben the omniverse omnitrix here?
The hunt for aggregor would be such a disaster lol, ben took like a full season or 2 to become even slightly good with that watch
I feel as though this was great way to expand the celestial sapien lore, to question what the ultimate power was and to give much more importance to both them and alien x
It seems like Ultimate big chill form allows his race to live on the other side of the planet, now I understand.
@@supremeoverlordvader5552 well necrofriggians can survive in both hot and cold places
@@bobbyahmad5197 Even in literal fire?
@@supremeoverlordvader5552 yes
@@supremeoverlordvader5552 they can consume molten metal like its water, so........
It's fascinating that Ben doesn't even try to use Ghostfreak/Big Chill to phase through the wall or use Brainstorm/Gray Matter to solve/find a switch. Ben still uses the Omnirix as a weapon instead of a Swiss Army Knife kind of tool.
20:19
Same, Kuro.
I think it speaks faithfully to the true purpose of the Omnitrix.
I really wished we had more insight of Greg following the Trio. Like after the Nerofriggians let them go, they've would've heard some foot steps coming their way. That would help build some fear into the people watching the show and explain how there wasn't any Nerofriggians when the trio came back.
I have always loved this episode, and a full breakdown is what it deserves.
But that’s just because it’s the season 2 premiere and is the second half of Aggregors quest which (ironically) is the quest itself
@@axelnilsson5124 and?
@@elliotnutella8044 what do you mean ‘and’? A season premiere is arguably an important episode to a series especially when it starts a story arc
@@axelnilsson5124 I'm just saying it's a great episode, I knew it would get a full breakdown, I think it'd deserve one if it wasn't a season premiere, I didn't see the relevance of pointing it out is all.
15:03 like it sounds incredible that galvins can replace an entire central nervous system(presumably with minimal long term side effects), but it is even more impressive when you remember another term for the central nervous system is the brain
I love the lore of this temple. It makes me wonder if one of Big Chill's children would ever go there.
Fun fact: In my story, Big Chill's grandson, Kafu Tennyson is the guardian of that temple, and it possess artifacts from all over the multiverse.
I really thought there could have been a neat fight if Kevin absorbed two aliens out of Aggregor and evened it up before Greg absorbed them back out of him. Even if it were one time before Ultimate Kevin became a thing, it could have been a nod towards how far Kevin would go to protect Ben and Gwen, and how bad it would mess him up
I'm not 100% Sure I agree but it does sound interesting
I wonder what Kuro's neighbours think of him just yelling out "GREGGG" around the end of the episode
11:57
I think that's just Max realizing Greg is headed to the Forge of Creation to become a God.
I love the little DBZA clip to poke fun at the whole timer thing
26:10
Please do this more. I love hearing the characters choppily saying "Greg".
Aggressive Ben is definitely something haha. Honestly some moments that to this day I still really love are the classics scenes vs Mutated Fourarms Kevin and the Death God (forget exact details) when Ben is Fourarms and gets super aggressive at both as the watch is running out of time. Just lays down such an unbelievable beatdown on both and god was that just so badass to see.
I noticed that when Ultamite Greg has Gwen's shield dissipate, it starts on the chest where terraspins body part is. That's really neat attention to detail
26:30 The map of infinity pieces do have to be collected in a certain order because the perplexahedron wouldn't let aggregor enter without the first 3 pieces
25:01 that was a "Bruh" expression, i felt it hard XD
I wanna make that my pfp on everything, but I can't
5:50 On Galapagus not being able to be harmed by Mana, my theory is just like Turtles on Earth Terraspin's people also live a long time. But unlike Turtles on Earth it's not because of a slowed metabolism, it's because they passively absorb the energy around them. Not on the level of say an Asmosian, but kinda like how humans absorb sunlight. Meaning consentrated energy like Mana being used on them would just be absorbed. This could also be used to explain how there bodies are basically jet turbines, they would take in energy like sunlight or maybe even through just there diets. That would give them the ability to spin that fast.
Honestly? Kevin's Omniverse flashback mutation is peak alien combo design. Literally they all go together so well design and color wise.
Faxx. It looks so good it may even work as a design for another character altogether which is not a mutant chimera.
And his Omniverse mutation looks pretty ugly imo, we go from one of the coolest design's to one of the weirdest
@@randomturd1415 His Omni mutation is awesome. It looks like something out of Sid's playroom. It genuinely feels like a chimera, with stuff like rocks, lego bricks, fairy wings, pterodactyl wings, bug legs. I feel like Omniverse aliens being such recognizeable archetypes, with such different tones, really show what a hodgepodge Kevin's mutation is.
True
3:02 OG kevins mutaion is a masterpiece of an amalgam. There isn’t a single corner of him that’s not cool to look at and the asymetric placement of the body parts makes all the more respectable to animate. I don’t think i ever like ultimate gregs look, and i’ve only grown to detest it more as time has passed.
8:09 you know what, at this point i’m very surprised los Soledad isn’t just a crater in the ground by the time omniverse starts.
8:38 I dunno, I don’t feel like the series would be the same without the street tier villains. Wouldn’t wanna discard them at least…
9:39 my headcanon is that Azmuth had his own idea for an evolution feature that was simply meant to help alien species better adapt to new eras they weren’t suited for. But albedo totally weaponized the function, to azmuths disgust and caution.
10:13 the ultimatrix was always cooler in albedo’s arsenal than it was for bens. It would’ve been cool to see the two have a proper confrontation of ben managing to use the non evolved aliens to their full potential and pull out a win against their evoved counterparts.
12:00 cept when its a powerful aztec sword I guess pfft.
18:29 probably one of the coolest planets in the show honestly! Both fantastical, but built under the premise of real science.
18:58 they’re so rad! The idea if them coming in different colors was already a game changer. Their ol school reverence compared to bens big chill persona was perfect as well. Azmuths intent for the omnitrix put to work.
24:43 kinda?! Thr icy hot dragon is absolutely amazing! One of the coolest monsters in the show! I think it would make for a really cool nemetrix form! I wouldn’t say they beat it *effortlessly* either.
27:28 another plot convenience for greg I can’t stand, he could’ve at least bothered to try and kill them once he was on the other side.
I really wish Azmuth threw Albedo a bone and said the Ultimate function is an useful Tool Even if Azmuth still doesn't entirely approve it but recognizces it Only is a weapon depending who uses it
Kevin 11 is definitely the most uncreative amalgam in the franchise at least with every other amalgam mutation it genuinely looks like a combination of each alien in various sections of the body while Kevin 11 takes 1 attribute of each alien and slaps it together
@@ianr.navahuber2195 azmuth cutting albedo any slack? Impossible! He’s still A Jerk for sure but I get why albedo has a grudge with the old absentee grouch.
@@axelnilsson5124 alright, it was simple. But it worked in its simplicity. Looking chaotic while still resembling a functioning organism. He didn’t have a dumb, humany face plastered onto the head either.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 true as a franken fusion it works but not as much as an amalgam
7:40 I feel like Ben should have gone Ultimate Humungousaur around here or maybe a bit earlier
10:29
Azmuth: I was _going_ to turn off the connection to Primus to temporarily deactivate the Omnitrix, and what does that boy do? _Blow up my life's work!_
14:25 You don't mention it, but you can see a little patch where the animators didn't correctly color in the ribs.
25:22 Well, to be fair, it's implied Ben could change from an ultimate alien to a normal alien in The Final Battle when he goes from Ultimate Swampfire to Jetray.
As for why he needs to change back to the normal alien before turning back into Ben... You got me there.
12:24 Imagine if this was just paradox walking in front of a green screen
7:51 a “Greg” counter for every time someone yells his name would be pretty funny even if it’s short lived
25:27 I think that only applies when he’s transforming into another alien not when turning back into human form
I rewatched this episode in preparation for this, and when Ben started fighting Agragor I thought it was gonna be an actual fight, and then Humonasaur just started kicking his shit in and I was like "oh he's just GOING isn't he"
Def the reason they bring up waterhazerds armor is because he's like a mollusk type creature. The aliens name is even a reference to bivalves a type of mollusk.
10:40 azmuth was probably thinking Ben would say a shut down command instead of using the self destruct
I think if they made Greg’s chest, arms and legs the same color as his neck the design would be a lot more imposing. Especially if they gave his little fiery details all over.
You know… weird headcanon.
Maybe the Celestialsapiens and Paradox have issues because of the Chronal Randomization Barrier.
They might’ve gotten insanely offended that Paradox deigned to give them protection. I mean, they believe that they are the absolute strongest beings in the Universe. Having a random human make a barrier around them might be insanely offensive to them.
i think it was because he stole the dna for the omnitrix
26:26, with the latter you need three pieces to enter it. Still a valid point.
15:27 - I don't think "damage to nervous system" works like that at all. Max should be paralyzed. But I wouldn't say it's too much of a stretch to say that super advanced Galvan tech can recover nerve cells
26:35
That definitely sounds like the best strategic option.
Greg-i didn't feel a thing
Ben-oh yea?
Greg-yea
"Ben turns into ultimate way big"
26:24 I think you have to do the perplexahedron last. Because you need to be worthy to enter it. And when Greg says he has 3 parts of the map and the thing lets him in.
Hate how Gwen is always stopping Ben from harming threats. I know it's still for kids so we can't have main character murder, but just let him be sure he was done
Ben: Aggregor
Kuro: you mean...Greg
Can we just take a moment to appreciate that the episodes air date was 10/10/10 ?!
Wait really?
Dang,
That’s cool
This is Ultimate Ben 10
In South Asia the series itself premiered on 10/10/10.
@@naimishtiakahmed9221 same in the UK
19:39 Ok but look at that perfect circle for the ultimatrix
27:29 something about kuro just yelling GREGGGGGGGGGGGGGG is Just hilarious as hell😂
I can't help but feel when those necrofriggians shoot those ice crystals they're basically spitting at them
16:00 you know..this video made me realize that azmuth would've known the map of infinity and forge of creation a long time ago cuz he would've gone there to get alien x DNA in the first place..
I think canonically, the Perplexehedron piece has to be collected last because the contraption only allowed Greg to enter when he presented the first 3 pieces.
Ben saying “nice screensaver” upon seeing the map of infinity made me decide to make the map of infinity into my screensaver.
16:14 It also goes to show how making Celestialsapiens able to do ANYTHING makes them more boring.
It'smore interesting that they had to rely on Paradox for something, it implies that they have history, maybe even he's friends with some celestialsapiens.
Making Celestialsapiens omnipotent makes any interaction they have with other aliens one sided and predictible.
9:17
The way I always interpreted Azmuths hate for the Ultimatrix was that the only part Azmuth actually built was the central core (not the power core), and Albedo’s handiwork was the ultimate program as well the gauntlet casing, and what Azmuth is taking offence to is the gauntlets design. And it makes sense, considering having human fingers would make it harder to replicate, and it was “confirmed” the replica made for Ken was created using Ben’s smaller forms.
IF you look closely at 15:08 you can see that those Galvans look like classics gray matter.
Hey Kuro, I've rewatched this episode several times now and wanted to share a couple thoughts, sorry if they sound scatter brain. When Greg says he's invulnerable as Bivalven's armor, that could be because his species need to have an exoskeleton that can withstand pressure of insanely deep depths, and thus is incredibly durable, doubt it was thought of at the time but it's just a thought. Separate thoughts are I would love to see O.R.Ash try to make an ultimate Greg but how he would combine the Andromeda 5 with base form Greg.(if kuro actually reads this. Thank you so much for everything you and the Ink Tank crew do. Last thought I promise, i would love to hear your thoughts on if the osmosian race existing wasn't retconned, where would you have liked it to go in reference to Kevin's storyline
My mother has nerve damage from a car accident and I can say that Max seems to have similar problems. The damage was caused by her bones breaking in a way that cut her nerves. Muscle pain and migraines were the worst part but she was still able to care for two toddlers on her own. So I think Max' condition is believable, if the laser he was hit with was more of a concussive force.
I have a theory on the Osmosian lore, a theory that makes both versions of it canon. This all relies on the completely unsubstantiated idea that when Servantis let the Rooters go, he didn't necessarily WIPE their memories, but were given fake ones. The memories that they gave Aggregor were effectively an entire life on Osmos V. His robots were, as such, programmed to also be aware of Osmos V and its location in the universe. The reason Aggregor didn't try and go home was because he immediately set his sights on his mission to the Forge of Creation.
However, when Ben recreated the universe, he was under the impression that Osmos V did exist. We also know that he failed to recreate the universe exactly. I propose that when he remade the universe, he also brought into existence Osmos V, Devin and all other Osmosians. This would make both versions of the Osmosian lore canon and, whilst it's admittedly complicated, would make sense from what I remember of the Ben 10 lore off the top of my head.
Makes sense.
this is an interesting theory,i agree with that
Am I the only one that looks forward to these videos . Kuro has made me gain such a huge appreciation for Ben 10. Might rewatch Omniverse.
21:05 dude just casually flipped us off😂
🤣🤣🤣
This is my reaction to Gwen for making Ben stop beating Aggregor
I agree with kuro aggressive and angry ben is most efficient and personally i can't wait for "the purge" and seeing ben threaten the forever knights .
One of my all time favourite episodes, I have no idea why
6:30 yeah that always confused me. But then I came to the conclusion Geochelone Aerios disrupts mana abilities. Less like absorbing and/or nullifying more, but instead undoing mana manipulation powers.
The shield was undone, because the GA species emit a field that cause any mana attacks or techniques to stop working. Like mana disruptor field.
Also the field itself doesn’t instantly undue mana attacks. It takes a couple of seconds. That’s why quick attacks are able to hurt the GA species. And why the the shield was able to form instead of being instantly undone.
Also I alway thought this is why Addwaitya ruled Legerdomain. His ability to undo spells that should imprison and or weaken him, would make him a difficult foe. And if he could weaken spells, use spells, and having access to the Alpha Rue. He’d be unstoppable.
And the only reason Charmcaster defeated him was because he was weaken and she learned new spells to defeat him. Ones that do damage over time but instant hard hitting damage damage.
@6:58 now that you mention it, I think that's one of the biggest things that bugged me about U. Greg, being not only is PANDOR not really incorporated much in the design, but it uses his armor instead of his true form. I think if his neck region flared up and was wreathed in the true forms radiation, almost like a collar or mane, it could've potentially been something really cool
27:29 Four arms: AGGREGOOOOR!
Kuro/Rob: GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG!
Man he's pumpimg these out SOOOOO fast, I'm surprised he hasn't announced he's taking a break.
If he does take a break, we wait patiently
@@RoyalInspiration Yes 😃
He does it every Friday so Fair
He has before. Plus, most of the time he just takes a break unannounced for one reason or another.
In response to 9:26 (if I had to guess), the ultimatrix was originally designed to have the welder experience the ultimate version of the Omnitrix's datadumb. Allowing the welder to not only walk a mile in the specie's shoes, but whole lifetimes. Which would explain why the evolution feature would be 'added on' (meaning the Ultimate forms wasn't intended) & build apon the original reason the Omnitrix was made.
My favourite M.o.I. episode was the cube one. THAT WAS A WILD ONE! plus a cool homage to The Cube and Paradox's insane power and knowledge to somehow make that kind of thing.
It's actually sad that ben never went this hard on agreggor when it mattered, he could've easily destroyed him here if he went Waybig or even Ultimate humangasaur.
What's even more annoying is that when Agreggor was in the verge of succeeding, ben still didn't take him seriously.
ben wanted to apologize to azmuth for giving the omnitrix to vilgax in the first place, even he seems knows that he gave up too easily
5:44 don’t forget Galapagus’ shell. 6:11 That’s how Gwen’s spell was able to affect terraspin in absolute power. 10:54 Maybe Ben was hoping that Vilgax would believe him, give back the watch and feels bad that he couldn’t save it. 11:42 remnants of the original planet. 18:13 I always imagine the helmets folding up from the suit like buzz lightyear’s. 34:01 sounds like good plot to me.
Gwen: or to not accidentally transform into it
Me: facts
Kuro: “Greg”
Also maybe do a stream to video where you do your own unique ultimate Greg form
That’s a cool idea
9:39
This is my theory
I think the ultramatrix was meant to be azmuths best Omnitrix of all time, hence the "ultra" part
I think albedo just added the ultimate feature on top of it and took the name from azmuth, but this core was dumbed down so albedo would just have his galvan form, plus other forms and ultimates. He never intended for Ben to take it from him
8:08 This punch live in my head rent free💀
6:03 wasn’t that spell “Eradico” supposed to make the target spontaneously combust (Charmcaster used it to defeat a rock monster)? If so, Galapagos’ ability probably just made the spell bounced of into a sphere then disappear. Also, WHY DID GWEN TRY TO STOP BEN WHEN SHE HERSELF TRIED TO MAKE GREG BLOWUP FROM THE INSIDE?
later they are really going wild with gwen’s magic when they meet the future ultimate Ben. She is literallyusing “statua” to freeze EVERY version of Ben like how didn’t she use it before or later when she has to deal with the (probabl) millions of Esoterica?
She knows, at that point, his armor can take lots of damage
I would have loved it if Azmuth looked at the Ultimatrix, glared at Ben and then: "Did you spray paint this?"
*28:05** S Tier edit Mr Kuro 👏🏿😎*
"all of the necros of the temple" oh god i needed to re-listen to that. 33:52
21:11 did kuro just give us the finger? That felt so casual
Sooo two theories I'd like to propose:
Regarding Aggregor, I think there are a couple of things you can notice: one, his form is more... orderly compared to Kevin's. Whereas Kevin's was a chaotic amalgam where various pieces were combined, Ultimate Aggregor is very symetrical, with the pieces of the Andromeda Five organized in a way that makes his form coherent. I kinda theorized that's because he has a more refined control of his powers and used a machine to further perfect the process, hence the result is less messy and grotesque. Another detail I noticed is a shift in his behaviour: as his regular self, Aggregor mostly was cold, direct and stoic, usually not talking much; as Ultimate Aggregor, he's noticeably hammier, enjoying himself more and more taunting. This might be intended as a hint that, just like Kevin, his sanity has been affected; he's just more subtle about it.
Regarding Ben being more ruthless and aggressive resulting in him being more efficient: I believe this is intentional. See, I have that theory that Ben's arc over the course of Ultimate Alien is about him being tempted to become more ruthless and aggressive. Aggregor is the first villain to *really* push him to this edge by defeating him repeatedly, which later results in him being more eager to kill Kevin. And we'll see that culminate in the Dagon arc, when Vilgax tempts him to use Dagon's power to eradicate evil.
Regarding your rating, I notice something funny about Ultimate: it goes up and down. It gives us both some of the best and the worst episodes.
27:16 Well, unless you look at Kevin. Because kevin had no manners in AF because he used to break Ben's lock a few times. And i just think that either Aggregor is teasing Kevin or this is just another fake memory when they based the traits of Osmosians from Kevin.
Abridged Goku: "Do you know what a minute is?"
We're on The Map of Infinity Arc.. but really these breakdowns are the map of Ben 10 and I'm here for it! Wooh! Hero Time!
Aka: the second half of Aggregors quest arc