MINI COOPER FUEL FILTER REPLACEMENT
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2022
- Mini Cooper S Fuel Filter replacement. Replacing the fuel filter on my Mini Cooper S and this is what I found. You won't believe it.
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Oklahoma USA here....great video, went right with ya and finished mine as well, last part of the big gasket to push in the top was my most difficult, but all is well...thanks George!!!
where can i get the fuel filter? I live in Alaska
Well, the only mechanical thing I've ever done to a car is change tires.
Today, thanks to your video, I removed the seats and changed the filter. Car went from stalling every start, and every other stop light to running perfectly. I just put 50 km in the city without a drop in rpm, never mind an actual stall. Appreciate the video, dude. I literally wouldn't have been able to do it without it
You’re welcome!
Hiya George..love your videos, so methodical, and very informative for people who are not up to speed on working on their own cars..
Little story for you...and other posters on here...
About 15 years ago, ex girlfriend has mini one diesel, with "warranty" by BMW.. she took mini into Bmw( can't say which one for reasons stated later, but is a city in South Wales but not Cardiff, very,very close though)service was meant to be a free one, later in day she asked me to drive her down to pick up mini, on way, we got a call saying car was nearly ready but would we want wipers done,(squeaking) and front and rear brakes needed attention,ensuing conversation revealed wipers were £50!! Front pads, not including discs were £200 fitted, rears were £300!!we declined the offer...when we picked car up, "free" service turned out to be £400...girlfriend or me not happy.
I fitted new pads/discs all around for less than £125...only problem was, had trouble getting rear offside wheel off, corroded to hub...they hadn't removed it during service
2 weeks later, mini developed fuel starvation problem, found out was filter, (in offside rear wheel arch) quick run to local spares factor and car was running perfect :) then we checked the invoice for service, fuel filter was charged(with labour ) at about £25/£30...so we went to BMW to talk to service department, managed to get my concern noted by service manager, whereupon I showed him filter I took off car with same date of manufacture as the car...about 5 years old!!(diesel remember)...he said that they lots of filters in storeroom with that date on, so I asked him very politely to show me just 1 with same date before i went to local trading standards/newspaers....and not as heavily corroded as one I took off car..I was then escorted off premises...and told never to darken their door again...at next table to me was a large (very) bloke, leaning on table, with knuckles and complaining that he had just paid for full service on his 7 series,think it was over £2k? and when he checked, they hadn't done a lot of the work invoiced,....he got escorted to another room, and i could still hear him shouting when I was outside building....we got rid of mini about a year later....sorry was a bit long everyone..but stopped me buying any BMW product
Good luck George.
Appreciate it William! Don’t think the issue is the products, more the service from some dealers... It’s why I do all my own work as I know it’ll be done properly
@@GeorgeAusters as matter of interest, no one touches any car I own, apart from tyres and tracking...do everything myself, currently own a mk4 golf estate tdi 130..got 208,000 on it, have done 3 western Europe tours in it all of approx 3k miles, Belgium, Germany,switzerland france(lot of time in paris) Andorra, spain...never misses a beat....oh and also do all my own maintenance on little blue thing in my photo... it's a RNs s6 es...with a rotax 582...all good fun..enjoy yourself.
Bill
Same excact thing happened to my missus mini at the BMW dealership in Melbourne Australia, hence why I'm here try doing most work on the car myself.
Thanks you, George. I'm psyched up after 3 times watching your video. I'm going in!
Make that "thank you", not "thanks you"...
Just followed this and replaced my filter. Excellent tutorial! Thank you 🙏
Thanks for putting this video together for us. Im planning to change the fuel filter in the next week or two so this video was a great way to know what ill be getting myself into. I have a 2010 with just over a 100k and im gonna assume the fuel filter hasnt been changed yet.
Great video and thanks for your tips! I found it handy to put a shop towel over the assembly after initially loosening the green clip and before its final release. Also, be mindful of any subsequent downward movements of the assembly into the fuel tank, as it can spray fuel from the filter housing.
Just used your video to guide me through the process. Only the second time I’ve been brave enough to try any kind of maintenance on a car ( ht leads was the first). Thank you for a clear, concise video.
Glad I could help!
Brilliant mate,I need to do mine and this was so well done
Thanks, worked perfect
Excellent job
Great idea ,use steel chisel and steel hammer , potential sparks and fuel vapor. Next time use a copper drift and nylon headed hammer.
You’re right, the car actually blew up and I had to edit that part out😅
@@GeorgeAusters …it’s all fun and games and yuk-yuk-yuk….. until a spark lights up the fumes……
@@GeorgeAusters😂😂😂
He is right u need to put use non steel when removing
Great video George Keep it up 🙌
Thanks mate👊🏻
Great video George, Thank u
Good information George, thanks.
Thanks mate!
That was a great walk-thru. Thank you
Thanks Trevor!
Boom! Excellent video and the only video to watch and here's why...He shows you how to seat that blue gasket...EVERY other video skips over it just saying it's difficult (understatement). Dropping the seal in 1st as he shows in this video will save you many $$$ in the curse 🤬 Jar. Thanks!!!Greatly appreciated!!!
Hahaha appreciate that Robert.. I always try to go into as much depth as possible!
Excellent video
Wow your video really helped had trouble with the big blue gasket but i watched your way and it worked great hope i dont have to do this to often again thanks
Glad it helped
Just wanted to chime in with if your mini makes that annoying thumping sound from the fuel tank, this is the culprit.
Here in America, we just swap out the entire fuel filter module it's called. Simply because the top plastic cap is known to develop cracks, and leak. And they don't sell that item separately. At least not here in America.
THANK YOU
In regards to the where the fuel line connects to the housing. be careful when disconnecting the line there are little Orings and a rubber retainer that can fall out and cause the line to spray fuel everywhere.
I have never once changed the fuel filter in any car that I’ve owned. I’ve had my Nissan Sentra since it was a 2006 it still runs fine actually better than my Mini Cooper which has never had its fuel filter changed and it has 150,000 miles on it, and still running strong,But I did not know this had to be done.. This was never mentioned to me before, and I used to sell these at BMW.. lol
Loving the mini series 😀 Nice guns George 😜
Yeah dude. That was the first thing I noticed. George must be working out some more.
@@warpspeedracer He is definitely working out 😀
Appreciate it Raymond!
Great video, agree with others, very bad idea to put it under the seat.
I can´t help myself: The engineers of the MINI must bei sadist ... 😆
My fuel filter was full of metal from the pump too. So nasty, couldn't believe it. Dueschworks (spelling?) makes a great replacement pump.
Thanks again George, great video. What a fantastic place to pur a fuel filter!
Out of interest is it the same arrangement on the 130i as you have both :)
It’s actually built into the pump on the 130i… More of a sock type filter👍🏻
My 520 started juddering the other day so decided to swap out the fuel filter..........had not been changed since 2013. My car is a 2012 chasis. Previous owners.........
Not sure why fuel filters are so often forgotten!
Omg thank you
Hi BMW MINI DEALERSHIP SAY YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE PUMP.. I HAVE A 08 Mini Cooper.. any advice..
What happened to the two pronged spring which was located at the bottom of the housing? It was missing when you fitted the new filter. I’m just curious.
Good question. Timestamp: 06:55 - 07:35
I would assume he removed the spring clip when he was cleaning the bowel to save the cloth catching it & dameging it, then refitted it before the filter was installed. You can see it missing when he shows the clean bowl, but can't see where it is seated when the new filter goes in.
@@smithiestrackmini hi there you can see the metal location pin protruding were the two pronged spring should be. Then proceeds to fit the new filter without replacing the spring.
Hey Ian,
See your point but I think the clip is in but it's behind his hand. As he drops the filter in it bounces ever so d lightly as if it dropped ont the spring.
It's either there or it isn't only George knows...🤔
@Georgeausters let us know mate....???????
@@smithiestrackmini Hi there yes I did notice a bounce and a slight noise as the filter was dropped in lol here is my theory. He replaced the spring on to a plastic protruding nodule rather than the original metal pin. Not that it will make any difference I’m sure lol But as you say only George will know …… will we ever find out ??? 😀
would the code CC-ID 029 point to the fuel filter being bad or the pump is bad? And to get parts in Alaska is extremely hard...!!!!! I've got a 2012 mini cooper countrymen s all4
Just one Q - did you disconnect the battery before doing this job ?
Thank you 🙏
If i remember the fuel gauge sender float is on that same side its something to be careful of
Very clear video! My next job. My Mini misfires when it gets shaken up on long journeys, and the Cat is struggling to get the car through MOT emissions tests. Suspecting crap in the fuel tank, or water from years of condensation. Is the fuel filter not replaced as part of a standard service? How did you drain the tank, please? Is it possible to flush it out?
BMW say filter is lifetime lol
I did this on my r50 cooper - exact same filter and it was completely black at 90k miles. I wouldn’t be surprised if they dont look much different even at 5-10k though. Mine exploded black fuel all over the back seat when i opened it which was unpleasant 😂
Will this be the same on a ds4 thp 200 2012 engine? Thanks great walk through
Thp200 the same?
How do you know the cap to the housing is on all the way? There was two notches on the bottom and one on top that was supposed to be in between but I tried and tried and cut my hand trying with a screw driver to get it back on its on so snug I think its not going anywhere the top knotch is to the first bottom one but not past it yet in just going to put it back together I dont think ive seen anyone on youtube tighten it that much or emphasise that at all.
He mentions it at 9:44 its supposed to be like ,', but mine is like , ,' I legit cant make it go any further.
Update: I got a warning on my car saying I needed to tighten the gas cap, this was because the pressure had changed inside the fuel reservoir. To get the pressure back to normal I had to open the gas cap and push that metal door open inside the place where you pump gas to let the pressure kindof normal out. Then the warning went away but I started smelling gas really bad. I ended up taking the thing apart again and using a plumbers strap wrench to tighten it all the way correctly. After making sure the seal was on right I closed the thing up with that ring and the smell went away. I would recommend one of those strap wrenches to anyone doing this replacement. Trying to hold that plastic canister thing thats covered in gas with your hand while tightening with the screw driver is nearly impossible and I actually broke a piece of the canister off trying to do so.
What happened to what looked like contacts in the filter bowl when you started cleaning it ,as they where not there when you fitted the new filter
I noticed that as well, I wonder if it caught on a rag and got pulled out. Looks like some sort of spring to keep upward tension on the filter.
Thanks for info, however you made it look easier than it was.
Great Video - I decided to do the same regarding the Large seal, in that I installed it to the tank sorround first. I did put a small amount of vaseline on the inside first though to stop the filter housing pushing it into the tank. Seen quite a few posts where owners have struggled to push the housing in and rely on the screw ring to push it into place which just doesnt work. Also I hope you did put the small return spring in before the filter as in the video it looks like it was dragged out with the paper towel during cleaning.
I assume that's a pressure relief/bypass spring, and no, I don't think he replaced it.
@@chrishartley1210 I was thinking it was a gentle holding spring to stop the filter rattling when there are pressure differences due to demands from the pump. Are you thinking if the filter is blocked the vacuum from the outside of the filter would lift the centre part of the spring and allow fuel in directly to bypass the filter?
@@markeprice4295 I was thinking that since the fuel has such low viscosity it would not present much pressure drop unless the filter was blocked and therefore would not need a particularly strong spring. If that's the case then without the spring the filter is in permanent bypass.
However, I prefer your idea that it simply prevents a rattle.
The spring is there to prevent that annoying thumping sound that would happen on pre LCI cars on shutdown. If you ever been in an early R56, they would make this knocking sound from inside the fuel tank. Usually in the mornings on initial prime, but mostly on power down when the system is sitting static and depressurizing.
I found the same black seal (diesel only) on a 2010 Mini Cooper S. in other videos on youtube you can see a orange/brown (kind of) seal...
What would be the signs of a bad fuel filter?
Good video George. I imagine these get black quite quickly. It's good access and avoids tank drainage.
I have a Bosch one still to fit on my R56. I think there are a few good quality non OEM manufacturers that are obviously cheaper than the main stealer.
Also Citroen oil filter is the same part as Mini but part marked differently, but is cheaper!
You can't do this at above 3/4 tank because you will make a mess. 1/2 or below is the recommended level.
Nice video mate. Why previous owners not done and Rover parts on 2008 mini WOW!
Mental isn’t it
Hi George going to change my daughters R53 cooper s filter soon I let you know what I find
Good luck!
Why do you have to replace filter is there a symptom?
What cleaner spray did u user. And thank you for the informative video
Just brake cleaner
Plus what filter do I need … Thanks
I have a mini cooper clubman d 2007 diesel , does my car has a filter like this in the back ? its my first time that im seeing this
Check realoem.com you may have an inline filter under the car
Will this work with a 2011 Mini Countryman? I’ve been having some trouble with delayed acceleration and no one seems to know what’s wrong with it, and I feel this might be a good thing to try
Yes
George, during the engine rebuild will you be replacing the valve stem seals as I am sure my 2008 MCS needs them changing as its now starting to smoke after long idle? Only 78K on mine and all the problems arise!! HPFP, Timing chain and now bloody stem seals.......This Prince engine is expensive!
Yes of course, everything is getting replaced👌🏼
Mine was on original at 11000, and no fuel issues. I can see why it wasn’t on the service schedule, if they do over 100000 miles without issue why bother from a manufacturers perspective. Unlike the oil filter I’m not sure there is too much to get clogged, fuel is clean, the tank is plastic if the car was running without any fuelling issue, it was probably still doing its job. I understand it if why you’d do it if you want to run an older one, long term.
What are the two cleaners you used to clean the inside of hpusing and the plug
Just brake cleaner
@@GeorgeAusters 🍻 cheers
The first BMW mini was already in the early design stages when BMW bought Rover in 1994, and continued through its development stage by Rover with very little input from BMW as it was intended to be the replacement for the aging Rover metro/100, given that along with the fact the car is built within the old Rover factory and BMW acquiring the intellectual property rights to all existing Rover group vehicles at the time I wouldn't be surprised if the seals are still being made with Rover being embossed on them when they are being made, seems little point in changing the tooling for manufacturing of a part no one but a mechanic will see.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing
They made the tooling and its a part probably used on other fuel tanks, they would not change the tooling details, the tooling may well be old but the part made many years later by who ever bought up the machinery,
Hi 👋. I have mini cooper 1.6 not the S. 2008. They said I can't change fuel filter because it's lifetime filter is that right? I'm having problems with engine stalling and labouring
Nonsense, change it yourself
Thanks much appreciated 🙏. Apologies what make was the filter you used?
@@tubetravel668 The video shows him using a Mahle brand fuel filter.
Quick question, ... What made you want to change the filter in the first place? Was is not running right? etc?
Because I’m restoring this car and I know for a fact it won’t have been replaced
@@GeorgeAusters That's fair enough, ... After seeing yours being black, was wondering now about doing mine, just for the hell of it ;-) ... Thanks for sharing.
After replacing my fuel filter the check engine light came on this morning (it was colder than usual I think)
The code said something like there was low pressure or a pressure leak in the fuel line or something. I realized I think the metal ring that fastens the housing down was not on all the way so I really hammered the bushing down tight.
My question is: do you think you can over tighten that metal bushing and strip the threads that it screws onto? Are those threads plastic?
I wonder if what seems like over tightening is just actually barely tightening it at all in reality since in using a screw driver and hammer instead of the proper tool. This is frustrating because I dont want to damage my car.
Did you have the check engine light come up? Thank you for your help!
It’s gotta be on tight.. I didn’t get any error codes
@@GeorgeAusters you dont think I should worry about having possibly over tightened the metal bushing ring? I think you are right because I remember it being really hard to break it loose when I first removed it.
will this filter fit a mini cooper countryman R60?
Yes should do
I'd say this never gets changed 😅
Very likely.. probably why the HPFP has a very high failure rate!
Funny how you under cutted the fact you will break the plastic, you have to 6:33 pull so hard to get that off, I failed to do so, my mechanic, he wasn't going to pull any harder than until he had a replacement. It's unbelievable how hard you have to pull to get mine off.
Im not sure if you realised but at 7:00 you can see a tiny metal thing with 2 arms at the bottom of the fitler holder but after you cleaned it out at 7:32 it appears to be missing?
Yes I did and I put it back in after👍🏻
Mine got stuck couldn’t tighten it back on sucks but that’s how it is I guess
this took me almost 3 hours
and now my car won’t start lmao
Anyone know what was that spray that was used for cleaning? The aerosol not the degreaser.
Carb cleaner…
A very thin smear of Vaseline on the seals makes this job so much easier
Yes that could work!
Don’t you put a little lubricant on the rubber seals to help assembling instead of fighting with tight seals
Does this process goes for Mini Cooper s r56 2011 ?
Yes
Hey George, I don't think the fuel filter is on any service schedule, I think mini classed this as a fit & forget like the gearbox oil...
Not the right thing to do in my book...👍
Definitely not the right thing to do. I’d recommend changing gearbox oil every 50k miles too!
No, there is no interval or any indication that this has to be changed during service at the dealer. Even most dealer mechanics don't even know of this filter to exist.
I’m so into this series. I had a 58 plate Cooper S and we did 50k miles together. A pain in the arse but I loved it.
Are you keeping it after all this hard work?
Glad to hear George! Undecided as to what I’m doing yet👍🏻
I had the same model Mini. When I spoke to the main dealer they told me it was a life item and therefore not part of a service. Hence why the filter is the original one. Frankly I’m shocked they stated that. It’s a paper filter and therefore needs replacement. The fuel in the filter bowl was awful. Is there rust in the tank?
Life means scrap at 100k. The old filter helps accelerate its demise
No rust in the tank as it’s plastic. The tank is spotless👌🏼
Never believe “lifetime” nonsense👍🏻
Life time to the German marques is basically 100k or 3 years. Once it's beyond the first lease/pcp/finance period 99% of them will end up on the used market without their mfr warranty (first owner only), so they don't really care.
@@Strider9655 Ok I understand that now but the issue was they couldn’t sell me a filter. It wasn’t on their parts list. Now I don’t know whether it was just my local garage or a national issue
provided with the knowledge that the seal is apparently intended for diesel, the question arises whether it is not wise to also replace the seal of the fuel pump. In the end, there are two seals in the package. And, could the fact that the seal was apparently for diesel fuel also be the cause of the strange black color of the fuel? Is the black seal slowly dissolving?
Knowing Rover Group its the only thing in the parts bin, its why Range Rover door handles fitted LDV vans
I doubt that the colour of the fuel is down to the seal to be honest. I will replace the other seal when I have a chance though!
@@GeorgeAusters I agree with you on that. In the meantime I have found several other UA-cams with a report about the way of changing the fuel filter. In all cases there is black colored fuel and a totally black filter in the Mini tank. Some people don't even notice, or think this color is normal. In all my cars over the past 50 years I have never found fuel filters that were this color. Sometimes slightly brownish, but never black.
I'm interested how that happens.
I think that requires an analysis of the fuel...
Have you a link for the filter please ? My local motor factors don’t stock them as they claim they are a lifetime part 😬😬🤣 Thanks !!!
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@@GeorgeAusters thanks a million 👌🏻👌🏻
You’re welcome!
At least you don't have a Roadster. Getting to the filter is "a bit" more involved.
How many miles did that car do?
Why is there two pumps and filters?
left and right the tank saddles over the exhaust or 4wd prop, (the tunnel down the middle of the car) Its not 2 pumps it just flow Image riding a horse the fuel in your left boot transferred to the right then to the engine.
@@TurboTimsWorld basically, is there two filters to change?
Only 1 filter. This car is on 80k miles or so👍🏻
Your sticker is lined up too
Afternoon George
The diesel rover 75 used a bmw engine,
Interesting!
Don't remember this bit on the Italian Job
Haha 😂
I like Mahle
Yes remember to change all of your filters, oil, pollen, fuel and air. Your service history from the dealer isn't to be trusted. You may have a bill for parts but they may not have been fitted. Been there got the T shirt.
I had a friend do this yesterday now the car won't start. It's not getting fuel for some reason
seriously bro. thanks for the heart but do you think my fuel pump went out again. I know the housing for the filter is beat up now. It really did go like clockwork until the end. there was pressure in the line because we had just replaced the pump the week before. BUT it was a used pump. And From thinking it was something with the filter and taking it in and out the housing was damaged
I seen a broken clip on the filter housing. goddamn it. I just got her on the road
she was running great until we tried to replace the fuel filter
please help me bro
Nice video, Rover parts in a mini ..10 years after..😬
Madness isn’t it😂
Is this a diesel or bensin?
Bensin
MG Rover had the idea of the new MINI and essentially engineered the R50, when BMW took over, they used Chrysler Tritec engines instead of rover K series the MG Rover engineers put in the car. A few design tweeks and BMW released the car. A good proportion of the R50 Mini is MG Rover, so it doesn't surprise me that a few of these bits are carried over. Why design a new seal if this one hasn't had any problems I guess 🤷
However, I have an R56 and apart from the engine most of the parts have a BMW stamp....
That makes sense with the first generation Mini from BMW, not sure why after 8 years they’d still be using rover parts though 😂
@@GeorgeAusters Exactly!! Probably exceeded the budget hence the Peugeot PSA engines and rover parts haha 🤣
Bmw mini used a lot of mg rover parts and one was door locks from the Rover 75
Whilst using a hammer and chisel / screwdriver does no damage, a brass drift is safer as it won't spark in case of fuel vapour build up.
True, unfortunately I don’t have one though👍🏻
Two trailer park girls go round the outside
Round the outside, round the outside
Was waiting for this🤣
Hahaha I was tempted!
Supermarket fuel does that to the fuel filter
I need help
why not replace the entire low pressure pump assembly while you're in there?
Pointless if the current one works fine
So George…. Your driving an old Rover😂…. You’ll need a flat cap an a nodding dog in the rear window!
Bit of an effort to change but we’ll done….. it just shows you the state of some fuels we put in our cars 🙄
😂😂😂
What a ridiculous and complicated set-up for what is a general service item.
Definitely… In-line fuel filters are the best!
Yeah and a good portion of the times, that top cap will just crack attempting to loosen it. Then you got to replace the whole shebang.
Everything on a mini cooper is over complicated or just annoying to work on 😂
@@chrisedgerton5464Abso-f*cking-lutely agree 💯
At least you can replace the fuel pump by only removing the seat I suppose. No need to drop the tank. I think that's why they did that at least I'm no car guru that's why I'm here lol.
not the best idea using a chisel and hammer on steel near fuel vapours
NO do not use a chiseler!
It's not, 'I have went ahead'. It's either, 'I went ahead', or, 'I have gone ahead'. Painful English on an informative upload.
Thanks for clearing that up👌🏻
@@GeorgeAusters Thank you for taking note.
Have to admit I was cringing when you were levering the screwdriver against the paintwork!!! Looks like you’ve chipped some paint off towards the end of the video
Levering against the paintwork? Are you watching the same video😅
@@GeorgeAusters 4mins 30 secs in levering against the paintwork flexing the metal too 👍
The paintwork under the seat you mean? I know it looks like it but I actually wasn’t
Bloody stupid design 🙄…nice video..
BMW,s what a joke, all that fuss to change a fuel filter.
I’ve never actually seen this type of filter on any BMW