Sawstop assembly
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Well I got a new toy and was dying to assemble it so I had to cancel this week's filming. However I didn't want to disappoint the viewers by not posting a video, so I thought I would take you along for the ride of assembling my new Sawstop, 3HP Professional cabinet saw
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I just ordered my Sawstop 3.0 HP 230v 36” with T Glide, dust arm kit and industrial mobile base. I am keeping my Dewalt 10” contractor saw and awesome rolling base. It took me awhile to understand that a table saw is the core tool of any shop so Im killing it in the core department. Nice video sir.
Thank you for the kind words on the show Jonny. I appreciate it. I can say with the utmost certainty that you are going to love this saw. I have been using mine steadily for ages and I have not had a single problem with it. It is a solid piece of machinery that hasn't let me down. If you have any questions along the way, please don't hesitate to ask. I'd be more than happy to help if I can. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
Oh, I didn't mean to leave the impression that that was the only one I have watched. In fact I have watched most of your videos and appreciated them. I had just asked You Tube for videos on the Stop Saw and was pleasantly surprised to find one of your older ones on the subject. Thanks again.
+Gary McCoy
That's great to hear Gary. Glad to have you aboard as a viewer. I look forward to your future comments on the show.
My SawStop arrived today and I'm about to start assembly. The provided instructions are outstanding but I'm a visual kind of guy so your video was really helpful. Thanks Kenny!
I would agree with you completely that the provided instructions are outstanding, but I too, am a visual guy as well. I'm glad that my show was of benefit to you and I thank you for taking the time to tune in and leave me a comment. I really appreciate it. Enjoy your sawstop. I've had mine for quite a while now and I absolutely love it to this day. Worth every penny as far as I am concerned.
Hi Kenny. Just want to thank you for doing this video when you got your Saw Stop. I got mine together...finally. Took almost all day and help from my 17 year old grandson a couple of times to lift it. As you said the engineering and instructions are amazing. Still, as the Brit's say, a lot of "fiddley " stuff. It was a lot easier since I had watched your video, so I kind of knew what to do. Thanks again.
Gary
+Gary McCoy
Glad to hear that you got the saw together Gary. I'm glad that the video was helpful to you. I had to get my wife to come out and help me a few times as well for the lifting. That saw is a bear to lift. You will definitely enjoy this saw and if you ever have any questions at all, please feel free to ask. I'd be more than happy to help you out if I can. I'm hoping that there will be other featured videos that you will find helpful on my channel. Thanks once again for tuning in and for taking the time to leave me a comment. It's very much appreciated.
I just purchased this saw last week! It Will be here next week. Feb 1st 2019 this saw will go up $200 I was told. I chose to pull the trigger and put the 200 bucks towards the mobile base. Can’t wait to get it. Nice video. Thanks.
I am positive that you are going to love this saw Ernie. I've had mine for quite some time and honestly, I don't have a single bad thing to say about it. I absolutely love it. Thank you for tuning in to the show. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
Hi Kenny, glad I watched this video.. I am in the midst of assembling my saw.. the extension wings were kicking my butt until I watched. I too am working by myself and couldn't for the life of me start the extension wing bolts. Luckily, I had a drafting chair that I use for my scroll saw. It happens to raise up just far enough to place the wings on the seat and mate to the side of the saw. Almost in business now. Thanks!
+Schurman Scroll Works
Well I'm glad to hear that this video helped someone out. Extension tables are a chore no matter what saw you are assembling. If you have any questions about the saw please feel free to ask and I will help out if I can. It's been months since I bought mine and I'm still loving it. Congratulations on your new toy.
I assembled a 3 HP PCS today, with the same base.
I also assembled an industrial 3 HP, using the industrial
base. That base you used, took me 1.5 hours. The
Industrial, 15 minutes, and I installed it AFTER the
saw was assembled. (We have a forklift at work.)
OK, attaching and leveling out the wings. Get a dead
blow hammer! They are $3 at Harbor Fright! I have a
workbench at the shop, which is just at the right height,
to put the wing in place, and slide the main body to it.
Put in the 2 outboard bolts, then the 2 center bolts. Do
NOT tighten them down, yet. Snug up one of the outboard
bolts, just enough so the wing will stay in position, but you
can "assist" it with the dead blow. Your straight edge should
be hanging on the wall, for this step. Align the wing, front to
back, with the main table. (Dead blow!) Align the height, at
THAT bolt. You can get it down to less than .001, just by feel.
Tighten THAT bolt, good and tight. Now, hit the next bolt,
aligning it, at the table top, by feel. Tighten it down. Rinse
and repeat. Yes, you can straighten out slight bends with
this method. I've assembled quite a few SawStop units, and
have NEVER seen that join perfect, without "massaging" the
alignment.
Once you have the rails on, (main table bolts) use your
straight edge to adjust the angle of the wings to the
table. You'll need to lift or lower, while tightening those
outer (wing) bolts. Most of these, are spot on, from Taiwan.
Sorry to get long-winded here, but I build these for a living.
steve
No need to apologize for getting "long winded" Steve. I'm glad that you chimed in with your experience. I'm a sure that plenty of viewers will find this information very useful when it comes time to assemble their saw. Thanks so much for tuning in and for taking the time to leave such a lengthy and well explained explanation of your method of assembly. It's very much appreciated.
Thanks Kenny. Actually I haven't even started. The saw is still in the bed of my pickup waiting for some help to lift it off. I was just looking at the parts and the instructions and it looks kind of confusing. Perhaps when I actually get to installing it, it will become clear. But thanks for the offer of help. If I can't figure it out I'll let you know.
+Gary McCoy
When I first looked at the assembly instructions, they did look a little overwhelming, but then again so does every tool's assembly instructions. Once I got into it and followed along step by step, it became apparent very quickly that it was a simple venture. All parts are clearly labeled and all hardware is also clearly labelled on a colour coded card that makes for an easy installation. If you have any issues at all, feel free to send me a message and I would be more than happy to help you if I can.
Hi Kenny great video as usual from you. That looks like one cracking saw to do your projects on, I've seen somewhere on UA-cam someone demonstrating the stop on that saw, using his own finger!!! it obviously worked and didn't leave a mark, but it did wreck the safety feature of the saw but who cares about the damage and the cost of the repair, when it's just made sure you still had 10 fingers.
Have some fun doing cuts on the saw Kenny I'm really jealous now, mind you I'll take your old Table Saw over my crappy Sip one any day.
Take Care,
Barry from England.
Barry Roberts Thanks Barry. The guy that did the video with his finger was the inventor of the product. He obviously has some serious faith in his invention. The saw is engineered to take the abuse of a sudden stop like that. The brake mechanism and the blade would be the only things ruined or damaged. The brake costs $91 and the blade cost obviously varies. If you tripped the blade due to skin contact, you can send your brake into Sawstop and they will replace it free of charge. The brake holds data that they can remove for their research and they can tell if it tripped due to contact with skin. I've been working on the saw for a couple of weeks now and it seems like a very solid and well built machine. Thanks again for dropping me a comment.
You can clamp a board or sturdy straightedge to support the extension wings for easier installation.
That's a good suggestion Austin. Thanks for tuning in and for chiming in with your idea. It's very much appreciated.
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Sweet.
Congrats on the new saw. I've read excellent reviews on it. I hope SawStop sends you a check for promoting their product. :)
Hardnox I highly doubt that I will be seeing any kind of cash from Sawstop. Besides, if they pay me, then this show would be sponsored by them which means that I would have to have ads on the show. I pride myself in the fact that I don't subject my viewers to annoying ads that they didn't want to see. I've never made a dime off of my show and if the only way to make money is to annoy my viewers, then I never will make a dime from my show. I don't need the cash that badly.
I’m sorry, how tight for the legs initially?
You're not really gonna make me say it again are you Rick? LOL. thanks for tuning in to the show.
Kenny, nice job once again on the video. You do such a good job of explaining each detail along the way. I have been thinking about upgrading my Ridgid saw to a Saw Stop, debating if I need the 3hp saw or if the 1.5hp would meet my needs, as the Ridgid has done okay for the past year. Moving the saw to my basement shop is going to be my biggest challenge, that is after paying for the saw. Any advice on the motor size? Thank you once again.
+Mike Ribelin
Thanks for contacting me Mike. I had the same dilemma when purchasing my saw. I hemmed and hawed about the HP of the motor. My final decision was obviously the 3HP. I am hoping, that this will be the last table saw that I ever purchase and I thought, go big or go home. Although my lower HP table saw has served me well for years and I have never needed a 3HP, I really don't know how my woodworking will evolve over the coming years. If this is potentially the last saw that I will purchase, I would hate for my woodworking to evolve to the state that I require 3HP and I don't have it and therefore would be forced to purchase a new saw. Although I may not be utilizing the 3HP at the moment, it's nice to know that it is available if and when my woodworking style evolves and requires it. Better to be looking at it, then looking for it. I hope this helps.
I am very envious, good luck, it certainly looks a good deal, how much did it cost?
please keep on with the videos, I look forward to them.
Regards, Rich, UK.
Rich Kellow Rich, you really don't want to know what a saw like this cost me. But I take comfort in knowing that the first time that it saves my fingers, it was well worth the money. I'm glad you like the show. Thanks for tuning in.
I sure wish you had included assembling the rolling base unit. There are no videos on You Tube ( that I can find ) that show how to do this, and the instructions are overwhelming. Any chance you still have footage on that assembly?
+Gary McCoy
The footage was lost in a computer crash not too long ago. I don't remember the mobile base assembly being that difficult though. What part are you having an issue with. As I remember, it was a little fussy to get together but not impossible.
I'm just about to buy this Kenny so your video will help me. Thanks. I'm curious to know if you had to align the blade parallel to the slots or was it good enough straight out of the box? Did you check this with a dial indicator or combination square or didn't you bother.
Hi John, thanks for contacting me. First off, you are going to love this saw. I've had mine for quite a while and I absolutely love it and don't regret the purchase a bit. As for aligning the blade, I am a bit of a perfectionist this way and will spend hours getting a tool calibrated to do exactly what it should. I used a dial indicator and I'm pleased to say that this saw was next to perfect right out of the box. Maybe I lucked out or maybe that is the standard of their quality control but either way, after checking it, there was no adjustment necessary. I did have to adjust the stops for the 45 and 90 degree bevels of the blade but it was only a minor tweak. Congrats on the new saw and I hope you enjoy it as much as I have enjoyed mine. Thanks for tuning in.
Kenny, mine was out .010" which according to Sawstop is just within tolerance but I wasn't happy so followed the manual and their supporting video and had it adjusted to under 0.001" in 30 minutes. In fact it was practically zero. The use of micro adjusting screws instead of using a dead blow hammer made all the difference. I adjusted the stops so I could get beyond 45 and 90 so I can use my digital cube. I never use a table saw's scale. The fence was bang on parallel to the slots. It even had a slight toe out at the end to prevent binding and kick back. Anyway you were right, a brilliant, accurate saw. I am excited!
Glad that you like it. I haven't regretted this purchase since the day I bought it. The adjustments are super easy and as long as you take your time, everything is great. Good luck with the new saw John. I hope it serves you well for many years to come. Congratulations.
Congrats on the new saw bud. Here's hoping it gives you everything you hoped to get when you bought it. Great video by the way. Almost makes me want to go out and check my own table wings for those annoying ridges.
johnnie52 Thanks Johnnie. I been using it for a couple of week's now, and I'm very happy with its performance. It is leaps and bounds over my Ridgid that I was using, and I was happy with that saw.
Great video, thanks for sharing. If I may ask, regarding adjusting the distance between the tube and rail (starting on 18:10), I get the impression that just locking the fences adjusts the distance? How do you know the tube is not too far out (away from the rail) ? The installation manual wants us to leave a 1/16" gap between the fence and the rail. I'm not sure how to do that.
The rail should be adjustable from front to back by loosening the mounting bolts and sliding the rail to the position that you need it to me. In order to get the 1/16" gap, you can cut a small piece of stock as a spacer and then tighten the rail in place with the fence and spacer. Then the spacer can be remove. I hope this helps.
Makes perfect sense, thank you so much.
You're very welcome. Thanks for tuning in.
It worked. Thanks again. I'm just going over the manual again before I turn on the saw for the first time.
Oh, my fence to miter slot error is 4/1000 and the blade to miter slot is practically speaking 0
i love your videos and yesterday i bought the professional saw stop and i have had nothing but troubles with it,,,,other than the safety feature to me its overpriced and weighs a ton,,
Sorry to hear that you are having issues with the saw Jeff. What kind of issues are you having? Maybe I can help in some way.
@@acutabove_woodworkings well I got the mobile base the one for 229 and putting it on the holes would not line up and the screws would not even tighten up completely...and the saw itself weighs a ton..to be honest with you after having so much trouble with installing the mobile base I'm scared to go on...it's kinda like the old saying goes...when you start out having alot of trouble you might need to stop...the worst might still be ahead....I think I'm going to take it back...and I do hate it because of the safety's aspect of it....but other than that...I would take any saw over the saw stop
@@jeffoldham3466 I have to say that I am seriously surprised by this Jeff. When I assembled my saw, everything lined up perfectly. There wasn't one single problem at all. The saw is definitely heavy but that weight is what is going to help eliminate vibrations while in use. I wouldn't want a light table saw, no matter what the brand. I would seriously be considering contacting SawStop about the mobile stand though. There may be something mis-packed or a defect that they can correct for you. From what I understand, their customer service is top notch. Keep me posted.
@@acutabove_woodworkings i just want to thank you for all of your input and you are right,,,,but the man at klingspor ask me if i had assembled anything other than the mobile base,,and i told him i havent,,and he said that if i had or put power to the saw,,,it was mine,,he would not take it back,,,a 3400 dollar saw and he would not take it back if power was put on it,,,,,you know home depot sells the same saw with a 90 day return policy,,,and im not saying that im going to get the saw just to return it but i think thats kinda crappy,,,i honestly dont know how im going to get it back into the truck,,still trying to figure that out,,,,its really bad when you get old and totally disabled,,lol
@@jeffoldham3466 This is definitely bothersome and I hope that you get it worked out. I have thoroughly enjoyed my SawStop for the years that I have had it and it is leaps and bound above some of the other table saws I have worked on as far as being solid and its performance.
Nice video congratulations. I watch many videos related to the Saw Stop brand. To collect as much information as possible. Unfortunately in Italy it is not possible to have this saw table, so to realize it after a careful design for my lab. If you want to give me some directions and measurements I did not find on the site I will be very happy, thank you
Thanks for the kind words on the show Giorgio but I am not sure what measurements you are looking for.
Nothing special, for example zero clerance measurements, the distance of the blade from the guides both in width and height, small details that the technical sheets I downloaded from the site are not found. Tanks, Giorgio
I won't have any access to my shop for about 3 weeks Giorgio and although these are some pretty strange requests, I will see what I can do for you once I get back in there.
Thank you, do not worry maybe because I'm writing to you from Italy, but strange there is nothing but I understand your reticence. I'm a fan of woodworking like you but I do not want to make you a problem. I told you in Italy that type table saw can not be bought, I also wrote to Saw Stop but still can not export the car, you can only buy some parts in amazon. Anyway thank you, greetings
At the moment Giorgio, I am on vacation and won't be back to my shop for about 3 weeks. That's all.
And now to make more zero clearance plates. :-P
Josh Olson I like the way you think. I'm not sure if it is possible with this saw though. The one cool thing about the Sawstop, is its geometry. The factory zero clearance insert works on any angle of bevel that the blade can be tilted to. Normally, the insert requires a wider hole in the throat plate to accommodate the tilt of the blade, but that is not the case with the Sawstop. It's quite cool.
kennyearrings1 So, you piqued my interested enough to Google around about the geometry; I couldn't find anything but saw a lot of aftermarket ZC plates for SawStops. Maybe they're just trying to capitalize on uninformed customers? Video idea: show us how the geometry works. Semi-related note: SawStop makes it really hard to search for anything about their products -- damn near everything just talks about the safety mechanism! "Yes, yes, I know... but what else does the product offer!?"
The only reason that I'm not sure if it is possible for the Sawstop, is due to the way that the zero clearance insert secures to the throat opening. There are no screws or hold downs, but rather a lever type clamps that holds it in place. I'm not sure if showing the geometry of the saw would work for a video idea because, quite simply, I don't really understand it either. All I know, is that the blade tilts to any angle, while shifting on the trunions to allow the blade to fit perfectly through a zero clearance insert at any angle. As far as what the saw offers? It is a cabinet saw. It is engineered to be a little more beefy than most because it needs to take the abuse of that brake mechanism kicking in. The forces on that must be difficult and would definitely not do well on a normal saw. The fit and finish are also something that I was impressed with. The blade tilt and blade elevation are all gas shock assisted, making it very smooth in operation and I have had several weeks to work on the saw now and it seems that their dust collection does exactly what it claims. It collects almost all of the dust. I haven't had a chance to really test the over arm collection yet as it doesn't allow itself to the type of work I am doing lately but I will be testing it out soon, you can bet on it. The fence is extremely sturdy and functions flawlessly. Bottom line, is that it is a very impressive unit thus far, but for the price, I would expect it to be. Main feature still remains as the safety system that it houses.
kennyearrings1 The aftermarket ones I saw had no moving parts (no lever type clamps); they could be fabricated with wood/MDF, albeit more work because evidently the SawStop has a lot of things to clear so it'd rest flush. So, a router with a few bits would be required. The most prolific one I see is made by Infinity Tools; it looks like people are using it for different kerf widths and dados -- not just different angles on a standard blade. So, I guess I can buy into the geometry just being cleverly designed. :-) ... Regarding what the saw offers, I was only really curious about how that ZC mechanism works but I appreciate you taking the time to inform me; always good to know what I'm missing out on -- I just got the Ridgid R4512 a month or so ago (got ~25% off w/Harbor Freight coupon and an overly eager manager). I haven't used it yet though -- been shopping around for deals for my first workshop. :-) By the way, you convinced me to get an Excalibur EX-30. That's still sitting in its box, too. But I have plans for it at least!
You'll love the EX30. I use mine all the time as you probably already know. It's a beautiful saw. Good luck with your Ridgid. Up until the Sawstop, I ran a Ridgid for years and loved it. In fact, the guy that bought it from me, just picked it up today. Kind of sad to see it go.
too much $$$$ for me
+Robert Appleby They are a lot of money and I had a hard time putting out that kind of cash initially. But I have to say that after having the saw for a while, I don't regret the purchase at all. It's an extremely high quality saw that perform flawlessly and the added safety features are a bonus for me. Thanks for tuning in.
+kennyearrings1 I'm certain it's worth every penny. Most of us just can't justify the expense for these Cadillac tools for a hobby
That's the best part about woodworking. It's possible to make the same projects by hand as you can with fancy tools. One of the great things about this hobby.