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  • @drunkjett3013
    @drunkjett3013 4 роки тому +79

    Australia just wanted East Timors resources and that is why the west suppoeted East Timors independence

    • @ardypangihutan3653
      @ardypangihutan3653 4 роки тому +4

      it's so apparent

    • @tadoshka5170
      @tadoshka5170 4 роки тому +7

      And the Australian ex-spies Witness-K who spill this secret get imprisoned by the Australian government

    • @s21b0b
      @s21b0b 4 роки тому +1

      The west wants no communism and that is also why they initially do not support East Timor independence under a presumed communist govt.

  • @GuderII
    @GuderII 4 роки тому +145

    Timor Leste 🇹🇱
    Expectation : Next Dubai
    Reality : Next Zimbabwe

    • @taniasrikandi3694
      @taniasrikandi3694 4 роки тому +3

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 very true. Agree!

    • @icalbourne1596
      @icalbourne1596 4 роки тому

      Ini 6 tahun yg lalu bro,sekarang sudah kek dubai😊

    • @ErnestJay88
      @ErnestJay88 4 роки тому +14

      @@icalbourne1596 dubai dubaian kali 😂

    • @rimayarhyma6097
      @rimayarhyma6097 4 роки тому

      Semau loe dah , loe mah bebas 😂

    • @simulping4371
      @simulping4371 4 роки тому +10

      @@icalbourne1596
      > Seperti Dubai
      > Ibukota tidak punya menara pencakar langit
      Understandable, have a great day

  • @nyomanyudi6239
    @nyomanyudi6239 8 років тому +142

    so sad after 10 + years of independence, most of basic economics comodities are still supplied from Indonesia...As most of balinesse, who are proud of its agricultural culture, some of us were migrated to east timor back then, teach east timoreans how to grew rice and fruit... after 20 years most of balinesse migrants were among the richest there...then so sad now it look like back in 70s ...

    • @johnykukuh1866
      @johnykukuh1866 8 років тому +35

      it will be worsen after timor's petroleum funds runs out at 2022 (99% of Timor-Leste’s export earnings)

    • @ruizsyajudha5994
      @ruizsyajudha5994 8 років тому +15

      Agreed. Actually, I was expecting a better picturesque throughout this video. But, it's quite surprising that there seem no difference after their independence. I mean, are those petroleum fund, UN aid, Australian thing, etc insufficient to lift the population's prosperity? Not to mention the fact that almost a half of the population from only 1.5 million is actually still under poverty after 14 years of self-determination. It's CRAZY!!

    • @herdimassa2481
      @herdimassa2481 7 років тому +17

      Haha, east timor FAKE INDEPENDCE.. Aceh & Papua still better than Timor leste...

    • @cebongers865
      @cebongers865 7 років тому +6

      Nyoman Yudi actually almost 20 years not 10

    • @aroesdi7483
      @aroesdi7483 6 років тому +5

      Ausie gas stations!

  • @cerulean25_
    @cerulean25_ 4 роки тому +74

    Most of TL domestical supplies are still from Indonesia. And amazingly the TL people still blame Indonesians for what happened with them in the past. If Indonesia embargo TL i don't know what will be happened with TL then

    • @dopaminecloud
      @dopaminecloud 4 роки тому +3

      You can both blame your oppressors and realize that your poverty is dependent on outside aid. There is no conflict there.
      To expect them to be grateful for what is by all means just a reparation for past crimes is conceited.

    • @martinhorosario1156
      @martinhorosario1156 4 роки тому +2

      If Indonesia embargoed TL it would essentially have declared war on 9 countries.

    • @Nomnomnom12
      @Nomnomnom12 4 роки тому +6

      @@martinhorosario1156 pffft 🤣

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому +12

      @@martinhorosario1156 no body care on your small insignificant country. Those 9 countries will prefer to maintain good relations with the largest economy of Southeast Asia.

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому +21

      @@dopaminecloud yeah they blame the one who built schools hospitals roads and treat them as equal citizens for 24 years. And they praised the one who exploit them for 400 years. They are racist to their own skin color

  • @litejimin5066
    @litejimin5066 5 років тому +69

    If only they stay true to indonesia and not ensnared with fake promises from aussie, surely they now have mall, long highway, good electric and protection from the strongest military defense in asean. Look at papua now, it's blooming under the reign of mr. Jokowi

    • @RezaOLine
      @RezaOLine 5 років тому +1

      but dont forget with wamena.. what mr jokowi say about it..??

    • @PaleRejent
      @PaleRejent 4 роки тому

      Ohh how this comment aged

    • @PaleRejent
      @PaleRejent 4 роки тому

      *blooming under the reign of mr. Jokowi* that comment aged too well

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому +8

      We can compare papua and PNG. PNG who has more natural resources has lower HDI and gdp/capita.

    • @aldas9174
      @aldas9174 3 роки тому

      Indonesia didn't threat Timor Leste as their compatriotz due to religion difference.. and Indo are rude to them.. they don't care for timorianz.. they just care to slavery and cheatery

  • @musafirdumay9409
    @musafirdumay9409 4 роки тому +29

    Thanks Aussie....Im working for U,, and U give me 'The most pooring country"....U are very genius Sir...!

  • @pidikwahono8888
    @pidikwahono8888 4 роки тому +104

    Australia n portugal: kawan sejati.
    Indonesia: Penjajah
    Tanyakan pada orang utan mana yang bener.

    • @warriorgalactic3370
      @warriorgalactic3370 4 роки тому +1

      Kalo saya tanya sama orang kuli wkwkwk

    • @ifan_ahh6539
      @ifan_ahh6539 4 роки тому

      Bjir anda salah komen disini

    • @miguelangelfelixgallardo4151
      @miguelangelfelixgallardo4151 4 роки тому +3

      And now
      Minyak mau habis do sedot sodara sendiri😂😂😂

    • @aanksasis
      @aanksasis 4 роки тому +2

      Pervcaya ama negara perampok. Austtali itu petampok.

    • @a3-20moch.faisszal7
      @a3-20moch.faisszal7 4 роки тому

      Iya banyak bener main politiknya, padahal dulu mereka yang integrasi sendiri ke indonesia

  • @thegrandlord2914
    @thegrandlord2914 3 роки тому +15

    When East Timor were still part of Indonesia, east timor gave little to no provit at all to indonesian. Instead, Indonesia spend billions over billions of money to develop east timor.
    Timor gap that contain alot of money discovered not long after east timor disintegration.
    Means for decades owning east timor, Indonesia actually losing money
    That's why indonesia's 3rd president agree to gave east timor a refferendum, because in his eye, East timor nothing but a bone inside meat.

  • @abdulkhafidtirtojoyo
    @abdulkhafidtirtojoyo 4 роки тому +45

    21 years ago the economy of East Timor is better than now. Evetything was supplied from Indonesia and still supply most untill now.
    But they will always blame Indonesian gov't and military for their own tribes war between them self, between pro Indonesia integration struglers and pro independent struglers killing each other for many years since Portuguese left them.

  • @adnansz8930
    @adnansz8930 6 років тому +65

    now they will bancruptcy, because their oil will be runout in 2030. i swear if indonesia want to embargo east timor there will be a death toll cause of hungry and lack of clean water. their land to dry which means they can only plant only few plants.
    when portuguese left east timor they not left everything for east timor even in education. first university in east timor even made by indonesia goverment.

  • @zinc_trioxide
    @zinc_trioxide 4 роки тому +17

    Their Australian mate gonna squeeze every drip of oil left until it dried~ But don't loose hope, Indonesia would be happy to help until you get stronger and be more independent, good luck.

    • @PaleRejent
      @PaleRejent 4 роки тому

      Dude our goverment is curropt you think they will help? Nah i think they will do the same

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому +1

      Nope. Indonesia will teach them a lesson for betraying on his challenging time. Asian financial crisis.

    • @yopiessa230979
      @yopiessa230979 4 роки тому +1

      bodo amat!!

    • @ignatiusryd2031
      @ignatiusryd2031 3 роки тому

      After their oil is dried up i'm pretty sure Indonesia will simply dominate TL economy and strangle TL govt with lots of debts up to the point where TL will unable to pay and turned into a somekind of Indonesia's colony.

  • @agusahadi2451
    @agusahadi2451 4 роки тому +17

    Smg rakyat Indonesia & Timor Leste sejahtera & rukun,, aamiin

  • @abdulkhafidtirtojoyo
    @abdulkhafidtirtojoyo 5 років тому +21

    Now you feel and deeply realize how precious the development of the Indonesian government to your country in the past.

    • @hailgiratinathetruegod7564
      @hailgiratinathetruegod7564 4 роки тому +5

      Like burning the whole inferstructure down and killing 100 000s of people for wanting there freedom back ?

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому +10

      @@hailgiratinathetruegod7564 what freedom, freedom from poverty? 40 percent are still poor. Most products are still imported from Indonesia. There are not free they are only under new management...Australia!

    • @rifqiadreansyah6005
      @rifqiadreansyah6005 4 роки тому +4

      @@hailgiratinathetruegod7564 Who are you? Australian? Remember the Aborigin incident dipshit! At least we didn't steal their natural resources and actually HELP them, unlike Australia.

    • @s21b0b
      @s21b0b 4 роки тому +1

      Corrupt, crazy, and horrible government of the past

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому +1

      @@s21b0b burning eveything but not the roads, presidential palace and the jesus status. You won't even have roads schools hospitals university if not for the indonesian past government

  • @agielibrantooey7388
    @agielibrantooey7388 6 років тому +16

    I wish Timor Leste in a very short time will have a good standard of living. God bless you.

  • @Indokita
    @Indokita 4 роки тому +17

    The land is dry and drought often come just like surrounding Indonesia's provinces like NTT & NTB. Need to build dam & irrigation for agricultural there.

    • @DBT1007
      @DBT1007 4 роки тому +1

      even with that, it's still not help a lot.
      climate crisis is a thing.
      the heck.. i respect their will to be independent, but their reason to be independent is so dumb.
      IT WAS JUST BECAUSE THEY INVADED BY DIFFERENT WEST POWER. REALLY, TIMOR PEOPLE?!?!?
      Your ancestors are all same with the Indonesia part of Timor island and also the whole Indonesia archipelago. You should join Indonesia though..
      Just because you invaded by different west power, doesn't mean you need to be an independent country.
      this thing also goes with Taiwan and Hongkong. These dumb people.. brainwashed by the "divide and rule" policy...

    • @efan1944
      @efan1944 4 роки тому

      Sejak kapan ntb kekeringan goblok.
      Sini kamu datang ke lombok ntb.
      Lo ingan lombok itu daerah gersang kah.

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому

      @@efan1944 benar. Yang kering itu cuma di NTT itu pun sebagian saja. Timor barat jauh lebih subur makamya belanda memilih timor barat dan membiar timor leste tetap sama portugis.

  • @kurackurackurac
    @kurackurackurac 9 років тому +22

    A beautiful video. I hope to visit this country one day.

  • @indrasugi4743
    @indrasugi4743 4 роки тому +9

    The time has come...
    *A whole world know how Indonesia made and gave them a goooood live (education, helty, food, etc)*
    In the past all of us love them so much, since 1999.........I don't think sooo

  • @RonnieNolanRaharjo
    @RonnieNolanRaharjo 10 років тому +22

    Why does the government maintain price controls over goods? That's obviously why they're not developing since sometimes those prices may be beyond what consumers can afford or conversely, the price is lower than the cost of production, making producing them an untenable proposition. This prevents trades than can happen from happening. Also, its obvious the country needs significant inputs of foreign direct investment and East Timor's government should make having a conducive investment climate a national priority.

    • @kaptenhiu5623
      @kaptenhiu5623 5 років тому +2

      East Timor ruling party is well known socialist.

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому

      Who wants to invest in a small barren land small mostly poor uneducated population. The market is too small. It is better to invest next door west timor. Whatever they produce can be sold all over indonesia.

  • @taniasrikandi3694
    @taniasrikandi3694 4 роки тому +22

    Dulu merasa negeri termiskin se-Indonesia, karena merasa pemerintah Indonesia tidak adil. Lah sekarang pas sudah mandirj, jadi termiskin se-Asia.
    Dulu provinsi dengan pendidikan rendah, banyak orang bodoh. Lalu ingin merdeka. Setelah merdeka, masih banyak masyarakat yang bodoh juga, masih tidak makmur juga.
    Seharusnya, jika memang masyarakatnya banyak miskin dan bodoh, jangan berani memerdekakan diri, jika memang tidak punya modal skill sendiri. Malu ga sih, mengakui bahwa mereka tidak mampu berdiri sendiri ternyata.

    • @FleischerJack
      @FleischerJack 4 роки тому +7

      Pedes banget buset, tapi ini kebenaran.
      Mereka pengen merdeka karena merasa sudah mampu, padahal itu hanyalah Khayalan yang di tiupkan pemerintah Australia (Negara no 1 yang mendukung kemerdekaan Timor Timur)
      Sekarang lihat negaranya, Hampir seluruh produknya diimpor dari Indonesia. Australia hanya ingin mengambil Minyak mereka.

    • @s21b0b
      @s21b0b 4 роки тому +4

      @@FleischerJack Kau hanya kenal Australia sebagai negara no. 1 yg dukung kemerdekaan TL. Kenyataannya Australia juga yg no. 1 dalam mendukung invasi TL yg dilakukan oleh Indonesia sendiri dulu...

    • @FleischerJack
      @FleischerJack 4 роки тому +4

      @@s21b0b
      Ya memang betul, muka 2 mereka itu.
      Nanti juga kalau jadi Papua Merdeka, pasti di khianati juga mereka.

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому +1

      @@FleischerJack papua tidak akan pernah merdeka. Papua resmi diakui oleh PBB beda dengan timor leste

    • @realmermx59
      @realmermx59 3 роки тому +1

      @Tania
      Anda tau berkomentar seperti itu.
      Mungkin Karena di anak tirikan.? Mulai jaman Suharto sampe Bj.Habibie ( kalo ngak salah )
      Pertumbuhan ekonomi melemah, dan infrastruktur amburadul. Usut demi usut. Toh juga timor-timur dulunya bekas jajahan portugis, dan provinsi yang ke 27 pada jamannya.
      Untuk mendirikan negara baru butuh perjuangan dan proses yang panjang, Ngak semudah membalikan telapak tangan ataupun cuma hanya omongan..
      Intinya negara baru, hanya untuk memulihkan semua perekonomian Negaranya dan masyarakatnya serta kesejahteraan yang di utamakan selebihnya bisa menyusul baik Insfratruktur, Otonomi Negara, pariwisata dll.
      Suatu saat akan bangkit Timor Leste dari negara yang kecil dan baru merdeka dari Indonesia.😊
      Hem..!!
      Siapa yang bisa tau kalo suatu saat nanti Timor Leste bisa lebih maju lagi kedepannya dari negara lain. Ada yang tau Nasib kedepannya. Jadi nggak usah merendahkan mereka apa lagi menjengkalnya..

  • @somnathde8680
    @somnathde8680 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for making this documentary.

  • @bryanc2097
    @bryanc2097 5 років тому +6

    Thank you for this docu about us ❤️

  • @AbiManyu-mv3ly
    @AbiManyu-mv3ly 4 роки тому +7

    2020 World Bank Reports, East Timor / Timor Leste is included in the list of the poorest countries in the world.
    Low quality of human resources and Limited natural resources. Making this country unattractive to foreign direct investors and currently all the goods and services are imported from Indonesia. Very sad after decades of declaring independence.

  • @velystiandi603
    @velystiandi603 4 роки тому +6

    We love you timor leste, you know Indonesia is colonized country, but you don't trust us, and believe Australia who is British people that almost make aborigin people extinct, believe your friend who is suffer like and he will take care of you forever, don't believe your rich friend who only give you money if you are useful, now Indonesian is become the highest economic growth in Asean, and one of the biggest gdp in the world, yeah that's gonna be divided per population, but high population is not disadvantage it's advantages, we are fast growing now, but alas we don't need anymore territory or pupulation

  • @rifqiaji5031
    @rifqiaji5031 6 років тому +17

    Maybe Timor's politicians should learn from Lee Kuan Yew (Singapore founding father). His civil management is, I would say, the best one. In just one decade he could concentrate population at several economic centers even giving them proper shelters. Right afterwards people no longer became burden for the country instead they like a machine that produced great prosperity for the country. Then see now it becomes one of the most prosperous countries in the world regarding its small area and its dependence of natural sources to its neighboors

    • @AccipiterSmith
      @AccipiterSmith 6 років тому +2

      Rifqi Aji but by now it is too late. The damage has been done.

    • @d.w.k1863
      @d.w.k1863 5 років тому +7

      Singapore have Strategic Port in the world, that's enough for developing a country.

    • @pakdsigit
      @pakdsigit 5 років тому +7

      singapore was an established region even before it seperated from malaysia. it was built by raffles who had got so many gold by robbing javanese kraton.

    • @footballcool787
      @footballcool787 3 роки тому

      Singapore is rich because their position is very strategic and it's different with timor leste

    • @sr969
      @sr969 3 роки тому +2

      Dude singapore was developed and invested by rich chinese traders from across nusantara.

  • @muzammalhussain9464
    @muzammalhussain9464 7 років тому +7

    can't wait to visit east timor will be there soon.

  • @siapahayo27.
    @siapahayo27. 3 роки тому +9

    "was a portuguese colony and occupied by Indonesia" so do you think that we occupied them??? No we've never do that. When East Timor was a part from Indonesia, his capital Dili city is the most beautiful city in Indonesia and Southeast Asia, but when they get their independent from Indonesia, Kupang city in West Timor, Indonesia is more beautiful than this city, more (Dili 1: Kupang 1000)
    Edited: Sorry, i have a bad English

    • @gmass6987
      @gmass6987 3 роки тому +2

      let get this straight bro, indonesia occupied timor leste, that's true, and indonesian has some reason, 1st is bcs of the communist and 2nd is bcs western influence that has grown since portuguese left timor leste... abt communist, if u know exactly indonesian history, u'd know at that time was new order of indonesia, it means all thing about communist is banned, and even in 1965 there is genoside in indonesia, and the victim is almost 500,000 peoples. and after it happened, communist in timor leste grown, and our country couldnt accept that, thats why indonesia quickly invade timor leste

    • @gmass6987
      @gmass6987 3 роки тому +1

      let get this straight bro, indonesia occupied timor leste, that's true, and indonesian has some reason, 1st is bcs of the communist and 2nd is bcs western influence that has grown since portuguese left timor leste... abt communist, if u know exactly indonesian history, u'd know at that time was new order of indonesia, it means all thing about communist is banned, and even in 1965 there is genoside in indonesia, and the victim is almost 500,000 peoples. and after it happened, communist in timor leste grown, and our country couldnt accept that, thats why indonesia quickly invade timor leste

    • @luisgoncalosilva6194
      @luisgoncalosilva6194 3 роки тому +3

      And a bad understanding of history. Timor Lest became independent from Portugal in 1975 and Indonesia invaded the island, comited genocides and in 2002 Timor Leste became independent again.

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 8 місяців тому

      ​@@luisgoncalosilva6194only 1 party wanted independence 4 against. Indonesia would not invade if timor leste had not been on civil war and destabilize Indonesia border.

  •  4 роки тому +4

    linda imagem no alto, gostei muito de ver vídeos desse jovem país- João Wilson- cantor e compositor sertanejo MG Brasil

  • @rudiitqkudi6739
    @rudiitqkudi6739 4 роки тому +10

    Me:* thinking timor leste have independence *
    *SEEING PERTAMINA TRUCK IN THE VIDEO*
    me:"wai- what?"

    • @candrasari6642
      @candrasari6642 3 роки тому

      My brain ngelag

    • @arvyno7129
      @arvyno7129 2 роки тому

      Produk indonesia masih banyak di TL kayaknya
      Ya lumayan investasi

  • @eaglebravocompany7476
    @eaglebravocompany7476 7 років тому +46

    Where supermarket?where mall?where big city at timor leste?

  • @dadangsunara4268
    @dadangsunara4268 6 років тому +11

    now you can feel those independence

  • @lonely_warrior7846
    @lonely_warrior7846 4 роки тому +2

    I feel sad watching this, I hope for the better for everyone

  • @imanuelcosta9589
    @imanuelcosta9589 4 роки тому +5

    selamat siang salam Rindu .dari manu freitas di sulut manado..Dunia bisa kata apa aja tentng timor..
    tetapi terbukti timor leste sampai hari ini masih di pelihara oleh tuhan.
    tetaplah maju berjuang dngan gigi sy percaya suatu saat nanti pasti ada perubahan ..asalkan mau taat kepada tuhan dgn cara hidup yg mengandalkan tuhan ,sy yakin dan percaya tuhan tdk sedetikpun membiarkan saudara2ku (krn kemerdekaan itu suatu anugrah yg dari tuhan.
    syaom tuhan yesus memberkati kita semua.♥️♥️♥️🖐🏿😗

    • @giveaway999
      @giveaway999 4 роки тому +3

      Gimana Tuhan mau memberkati, sekarang aja Timor Leste melegalkan LGBT kok. Skrg gini Tuhan melarang LGBT tapi mereka dg bangga berpesta atas legal nya LGBT di negaranya. Gimana bisa disebut umat yg taat??
      Apakah Tuhan nggak marah tuh??
      Terus dibilang tuhan sedikit pun tidak akan membiarkan mereka??? Melihat fakta di lapangan seperti itu maka sorry banget antara gue Ama lu yang bego bukan gue

  • @lkjhhjkl4821
    @lkjhhjkl4821 7 років тому +29

    1:54 we can see pertamina truck on the road lmao "timor still need induhnesyah!"

    • @tukangcomplain9766
      @tukangcomplain9766 5 років тому +2

      If there is no pertamina, my country cannot go forward like DUBAI

  • @havenmirabella3003
    @havenmirabella3003 6 років тому +6

    Looks like a beautiful country and I’m happy they’re doing better! I want to visit, it’s one of the few places in the world where someone with my features would blend in with the locals.

    • @MohamedShahinee
      @MohamedShahinee 6 років тому +2

      I have an Indian friend make a business there and asking me to go and make business also it's good country to to that as he says! I am still search information about the place

    • @kurdihermawan5113
      @kurdihermawan5113 4 роки тому

      you must take care if you go there, alot of bad people in there becoz of unemployment

    • @Victoriagenix
      @Victoriagenix 4 роки тому

      @@MohamedShahinee I wonder if you’re here now

    • @MohamedShahinee
      @MohamedShahinee 4 роки тому

      @@Victoriagenix I am still here.

    • @MohamedShahinee
      @MohamedShahinee 4 роки тому

      @@Victoriagenix and my dad used to use this account

  • @anythingwrez2932
    @anythingwrez2932 4 роки тому +7

    They were richer when unite with Indonesia

    • @anythingwrez2932
      @anythingwrez2932 4 роки тому +2

      We gave them lot cash but they don't like it , they want to live separated instead

    • @hayate_hamate4552
      @hayate_hamate4552 3 роки тому

      @@anythingwrez2932 There was a genocide there, in addition to several human rights abuses, but they didn't like the money, they are very ungrateful 😠😠😠

    • @keythegreat4282
      @keythegreat4282 Рік тому

      ​@@hayate_hamate4552genocide??? How about aborigins??? How about millions of people casualties during Japan war???
      The number of communism victim in Indonesia itself even more than in TL😅

    • @hayate_hamate4552
      @hayate_hamate4552 Рік тому

      @@keythegreat4282 Everything you said has nothing to do with the fact that Indonesia committed many atrocities in East Timor, and that made timorese people like... want independence...

    • @keythegreat4282
      @keythegreat4282 Рік тому

      @@hayate_hamate4552 Indonesia’s attack on East-Timor resulted in an estimated 20,000 casualties, while there was 460,000 deaths in Iraq as direct or indirect result of the war including more than 60% of deaths directly attributable to violence. 110,600 violent deaths. 186,901 - 210,296 civilian deaths from violence. And also causing at least 2.5 million people - including 1.1 million children - needed humanitarian assistance. This included 960,000 people - over 422,000 of them children - who were in acute need of emergency food, shelter, access to clean water, sanitation, and essentials.

  • @anggadedypratama2475
    @anggadedypratama2475 3 роки тому +7

    Wahh mantap sekarang sudah jadi negara terkaya di dunia😁😁

  • @baratayudha8195
    @baratayudha8195 6 років тому +32

    Still poor country... ever

    • @bringsik100
      @bringsik100 4 роки тому

      give them time

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому +1

      @@bringsik100 it's been 20 years and it actually getting worse. Sad.

  • @urstruly87
    @urstruly87 8 років тому +62

    hmmm... doesn't look like independence was worth the cost of lives & destruction... to end up isolated, impoverished and essentially worse off than under Indonesian occupation.

    • @shiningmaze6047
      @shiningmaze6047 8 років тому +27

      +Alex Nguyen Yes, they were instigated by Australia. Australia eyeing oil in the Timor Strait. even the province of East Nusa Tenggara (West Timor) are more affluent than the state of East Timor. respectful of Indonesia

    • @brontewcat
      @brontewcat 8 років тому +3

      @Alex Nguyen. It depends on what you value as important. The same could have been said of Vietnam, 12 years after defeating the Americans et al. N the mid 1980s Vietnam was also impoverished, but it has managed to turn its economy to middle income status over the last 30 years. I'd suggest a lot of East Timorese poverty has come from inadequate infrastructure and development while they were quite colony and occupied.

    • @brontewcat
      @brontewcat 8 років тому

      'A colony and occupied.'

    • @cebongers865
      @cebongers865 8 років тому +26

      Indonesia never colonized east timor, east timor governor are timorese people, its state
      About occupation, its request from timorese people who want to join indonesia(anti portugese and communist), just check timorese who's pro-indonesia on timor war, plus indonesia never take any timorese resources
      If you want proof you can search how timorese welcome indonesian president JOKOWI and give him highest medal of honor, why they should give their invader highest medal of honor?

    • @brontewcat
      @brontewcat 8 років тому +11

      Tukang Sate I suspect the Timorese are a very forgiving and pragmatic people, which is why they are able to welcome the Indonesian president. Besides the occupation was under Suharto not the present or recent Indonesian governments.

  • @jokowidiawati2751
    @jokowidiawati2751 3 роки тому +9

    *people timor leste living in poverty after 20 independent*
    *timor leste people* : please help us!
    *aussie* : do i know you?

    • @aldas9174
      @aldas9174 3 роки тому

      Aussie didn't help timorianz against indones colonization.. after they drained resources they don't know them in the end.. instead of taking over,, just help them

  • @sueyoung3989
    @sueyoung3989 8 років тому +4

    Cant wait to visit one day.

  • @ian-cf2oz
    @ian-cf2oz 5 років тому +19

    Poor country since they separate from Indonesia , how poor ...no natural resources well and little human resources skilled ...poor

    • @amonhadevymoreiracarmendac4191
      @amonhadevymoreiracarmendac4191 4 роки тому +2

      I'm happy to gt new country i love Timor Leste

    • @ian-cf2oz
      @ian-cf2oz 4 роки тому +6

      @@amonhadevymoreiracarmendac4191 50% of people were poor maybe more , hope your country to be develop on later

    • @bananabread4405
      @bananabread4405 4 роки тому +3

      @amonha devy moreira carmen Da Costa up to you. No one asks what you feel. Nobody cares about it.

    • @bananabread4405
      @bananabread4405 4 роки тому +2

      @amonha devy moreira carmen Da Costa up to you. No one asks what you feel. Nobody cares about it.

    • @yarikachi
      @yarikachi 4 роки тому +1

      Only 33% literacy rate

  • @pedrosousa9780
    @pedrosousa9780 3 роки тому +2

    it takes a while for the country up bring. all they need know is the task for education and health system.

  • @nijamdaploen2016
    @nijamdaploen2016 4 роки тому +5

    Saling menghargai itu lebih baiik,,

  • @missaisohee
    @missaisohee 4 роки тому +2

    11:41 "But things are improving here.."
    Next cue : "meet again with the band Roma.."
    "They're improvising as they go."
    I see.

  • @wisnuwibowo5971
    @wisnuwibowo5971 6 років тому +61

    Yah ..., gak dapet dana desa deh
    😂😂😂😂

    • @f.s.firdaus8106
      @f.s.firdaus8106 4 роки тому +20

      Dapet tai kangguru

    • @jkt0245
      @jkt0245 4 роки тому

      Mungkin mereka dg menjadi negara yg kaya raya haha

    • @bananabread4405
      @bananabread4405 4 роки тому

      Hahahaha

    • @dodoll8541
      @dodoll8541 4 роки тому +4

      Kslhnnya adalh merdeka tdak dibarengi dgn SDMnya mks y akn smkin sengsara.....apalgi skrng justru dimnafastin sama skutunya australia nyesel2 tuh

    • @arifyudha5149
      @arifyudha5149 4 роки тому

      Makan tu taik hahahahah

  • @tencomandiritv5302
    @tencomandiritv5302 3 роки тому +2

    Some people in timor-Leste use indonesian money rupiah for economy

  • @saridicarmin1860
    @saridicarmin1860 4 роки тому +10

    Australia sahabatku. Teruslah sedot sampai kering kerontang.

  • @cacakfc2451
    @cacakfc2451 4 роки тому +3

    Sangat2 asri seperti tempoe doeloe

  • @FortunatoMarcelinoGama
    @FortunatoMarcelinoGama 10 років тому +3

    Thanks for sharing the video

  • @SamSam-fq5vu
    @SamSam-fq5vu 5 років тому +1

    This little country has a very big potential geographically suitable for defferent industries.

    • @RezaOLine
      @RezaOLine 4 роки тому +5

      No.. its a dry country stuck in between 2 nations..

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому +1

      What industry? Too small population no one will interest to invest there.

  • @budhiismayadi4023
    @budhiismayadi4023 4 роки тому +3

    Their leaders and australia who pushed east timor to become independent must responsible for welfare of east timor people

  • @henryjohnson280
    @henryjohnson280 5 років тому +3

    Very interesting comments. You really have to be very young to think that 12 yrs is a long time.

    • @cerulean25_
      @cerulean25_ 4 роки тому

      Basically TL already grew as a "country" since they decided to be part of Indonesia in 1976. Indonesia help them to establish their land before they got their freedom in 2002. So actually you can count almost 45yrs till now and TL still not going anywhere even getting worse as a country

    • @s21b0b
      @s21b0b 4 роки тому

      @@cerulean25_ Only because a number of people decided that they want to join Indonesia?? I smell Orde Baru antics.

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому

      @@s21b0b how can soeharto tell? Both parties claimed that majority people on their side.

  • @diaryjejaka
    @diaryjejaka 6 років тому +5

    This independence is only about a handful of power-hungry people, because in fact the people are the victims, after Timor Leste came out of the country of Indonesia, the people more difficult, in terms of economy, education and other social security. because basically they still can not be separated from Indonesia, ranging from health, education, other necessities, which originally no trouble impeded by immigration, customs and import duties. when East Timor is still a part of the Unitary State of Indonesia, the people of East Timor have the same rights. Free schools, Free Health Facility for the Poor, and other Welfare Social Security, in no way different from other Indonesian People. should they not only think about Freedom but more than that, about the Great Soul of who is profitable and who is at a disadvantage, because WISE POPULATION The people should be above all important, more important about self-esteem, more important than power,

    • @s21b0b
      @s21b0b 4 роки тому

      Honestly, the reason Timor Leste got invaded is also because of the interests of a number of power-hungry people as well. This is a FACT!

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому

      @@s21b0b yes which also came from east timorese people apodeti/udt who also wants to rule under indonesian authority. This fact is always hidden by east timorese independence fighters.

  • @hafidza.p8584
    @hafidza.p8584 4 роки тому +2

    Expectation:singapore
    Reality:zimbabwe

  • @DuyKhanh-oc7br
    @DuyKhanh-oc7br 4 роки тому +1

    the government has been doing nothing. Timor Leste is the most depended country on oils. they can not produce any necessities and have to import most of the products. The landscape here is beautiful, however, they have no strategy to promote tourism. If Dili can get just 1/20 the amounts of foreign tourists coming to Dili, the situation may get better. the cost of living here is bad, too

  • @AhmedAljawwi
    @AhmedAljawwi 4 роки тому +1

    12 year and still just Great Plan

  • @mloebab
    @mloebab 2 роки тому

    Great lesson 'Don't misjudge your neigbour...."

  • @torogenghis1609
    @torogenghis1609 4 роки тому +4

    You should only blame one person. Xanana gusmao.

  • @masbawang7361
    @masbawang7361 3 роки тому +2

    IN UNITY WE FIRM,
    BEING APART WE WEAK

  • @iniamoi4570
    @iniamoi4570 8 років тому +11

    we in png and vantuau and fiji and Solomon and new Caledonia and Indonesia need to help east timor we are melanesian need to help each other.

    • @cebongers865
      @cebongers865 8 років тому +11

      After UN leave, Indonesia become east timor main partner for country development :)

    • @SALAMIN762
      @SALAMIN762 7 років тому +2

      Inia Moi
      Indonesia is not Melanesia.

    • @cebongers865
      @cebongers865 7 років тому +10

      GNP
      Melanesia majority is in indonesia
      Malay majority is in indonesia
      Small weak country like yours just shut up, your country cannot event help timorese, too much talk no act

    • @daenksyahsyah610
      @daenksyahsyah610 7 років тому +11

      Eastern Part region of Indonesia is Melanesian. :) you such a dumb person.

    • @gpl992
      @gpl992 7 років тому +1

      Nah,its West Melanesia.

  • @aanksasis
    @aanksasis 4 роки тому +2

    Now are you happy as East Timorese?

    • @brendanpaterson5635
      @brendanpaterson5635 3 роки тому +1

      Now that they're not being slaughtered by Indonesians I imagine they're at least happier to know they're responsible for their own futures.

    • @luisgoncalosilva6194
      @luisgoncalosilva6194 3 роки тому +1

      Probably yes, knowing that aren't gonna be killed by Indonesians.

    • @keythegreat4282
      @keythegreat4282 Рік тому +1

      ​@@brendanpaterson5635you should said those words to aborigines hundred years ago😅

  • @jojopratama285
    @jojopratama285 3 роки тому +3

    Untuk apa merdeka jika ujung-ujungnya jadi negara termiskin?

    • @luisgoncalosilva6194
      @luisgoncalosilva6194 3 роки тому +3

      To escape genocide. Having a third of your population killed is not fun.

  • @nexyssx
    @nexyssx 4 роки тому +2

    East timor:
    I've won...
    But at what cost ?

  • @pedrosousa9780
    @pedrosousa9780 3 роки тому +3

    they are very strong people

  • @juliofonseca2612
    @juliofonseca2612 8 років тому +9

    I love my country 🇹🇱🇵🇹🇲🇨🇦🇺

    • @bananabread4405
      @bananabread4405 4 роки тому +1

      Why you love aushit, they stole your oil

  • @bobbyromario7055
    @bobbyromario7055 3 роки тому

    Good i cand from timor leste 🇹🇱

  • @Adam-hf7hn
    @Adam-hf7hn 4 роки тому +3

    Germany is a nice country

  • @kurdihermawan5113
    @kurdihermawan5113 4 роки тому +3

    all of Timor people happy w/ they 'independence', although they country will change like Ethiopia

  • @ardanhafid9409
    @ardanhafid9409 4 роки тому +2

    Dah maju seperti singapore👍

  • @juamu1132
    @juamu1132 2 роки тому

    12 yrs on and still dependent on indonesia.

  • @isbieiskandar7641
    @isbieiskandar7641 8 років тому +3

    good luck

  • @aliyafuady8032
    @aliyafuady8032 4 роки тому +4

    Suharto dipaksa blok barat untuk aneksasi Timor timur karena mereka tidak mau mengotori tangan mereka...juga sebagai balas jasa karena merekalah yang membantu Suharto menggulingkan Sukarno dan membantai orang PKI dan yang dianggap sebagai PKI. padahal itu jelas2 melanggar konstitusi utamanya yang tercantum dalam preambule UUD 45. maafkan politik kami wahai saudara di Timor Leste... paling tidak negerimu sekarang lebih baik daripada Korut...

    • @aliyafuady8032
      @aliyafuady8032 4 роки тому

      catatan Timor timur dianeksasi karena blok barat khawatir Timor lorosae masuk ke dalam orbit komunisme... asumsi itu didasari oleh fakta di lapangan bahwa kebanyakan partai yang tumbuh di masa pasca dekolonialisasi Portugal adalah umumnya berhaluan kiri...

    • @aliyafuady8032
      @aliyafuady8032 4 роки тому

      blok barat amat mengkhawatirkan efek domino dari misalnya apabila Fretilin berkuasa maka mereka meminjam tangan Suharto... namun lepas dari itu...pada akhirnya adalah semuanya mengenai sumber daya dan bagaimana caranya memperkaya kapital.

    • @arifyudha5149
      @arifyudha5149 4 роки тому

      Sotoy lu

    • @arifyudha5149
      @arifyudha5149 4 роки тому

      @@avithorqi2072 lu ngomong tolol, lu jadi apa sekrang ?? Kuota aja masih netek sma ortu lu asu, tolol lu

    • @arifyudha5149
      @arifyudha5149 4 роки тому

      @@avithorqi2072 halah wibu aja sok ngegas lu, bilang orang tolol... Anjing wkwkwkwk, bisa apa lu, paling juga skolah blom tamat

  • @rmdalijo6898
    @rmdalijo6898 4 роки тому +8

    Kasihan gara2 kepentingan elit rakyat jadi korban

  • @Raja77__
    @Raja77__ 4 роки тому +2

    Thats happen if you trust an impostor to helping you

  • @senin6859
    @senin6859 4 роки тому

    wel wel wel good job ausi

  • @dadangsaefullah2069
    @dadangsaefullah2069 2 роки тому

    Amazing , now they are rich like Singaporean

  • @kokopentet6525
    @kokopentet6525 4 роки тому +2

    I am indonesian. May i hope, Allah give you hidayaah. Keep strong timor leste....

  • @HKspurs10
    @HKspurs10 2 роки тому

    fun fact east timor has 18 billion worthof assets in their sovereign wealth fund,10 times the size of their economy.

  • @agungprawira3710
    @agungprawira3710 4 роки тому +3

    I hope some aborigins brave enough to start the movement
    Free land for aborigins too..
    I hope the Australian support them as well

    • @cloudysoup9056
      @cloudysoup9056 3 роки тому

      Sadly none of them are actually being seen

  • @AR-bh3mn
    @AR-bh3mn Рік тому +1

    Hingga hari ini, Orang-Orang Timor Leste Masih Percaya bahwa *Indonesia adalah Penyebab Kemiskinan Yang terjadi di negara mereka! 🙄
    Saya percaya kalo nantinya Kita bangun Tembok pembatas di NTT, pastinya akan di tuduh *Tindakan Rasisme dan Diskriminatif* Sama Tetangga ( Timor leste)...... 😅

  • @sion8
    @sion8 10 років тому +4

    Don't they speak Portuguese in East Timor?

    • @sion8
      @sion8 9 років тому

      Badboy Killers
      Bon, but mostly where?

    • @sion8
      @sion8 9 років тому +5

      *****
      Well, cool good luck on your voyage. I've read that both Portuguese and Brazilian authorities are promoting the Portuguese language and it seems this is helping in moving people to be educated in this language instead of Indonesian, but who knows.

    • @lgunport
      @lgunport 9 років тому +5

      sion8 that young soon to be ship captain thought by indo captain using bahasa indonesia, telecomunication, bureaucratization, and education system still provided by us indonesian, portuguese would only becoming elitist language that have little in value for the timorese.

    • @quaqmireful
      @quaqmireful 9 років тому +3

      +lgunport I agree with your observation. I think Timorese is better of by taking Bahasa Indonesia as their main language. Or.... English. These two languages are widely spoken by the Timorese neighbors.
      Portugese ? Hmmm it is not widely spoken, especially not in the South East Asia. I do not see a real value in getting the Timorese to take it as official language.

    • @sion8
      @sion8 9 років тому +2

      quaqmireful​
      I understand this view point, but just like the Filipinos use Tagalog (which is heavily influenced by Spanish) so too should Tetum become the most widely used language of East Timor (heavily influenced by Portuguese), however, unlike the Filipinos to some extend, the East-Timorese from what I've read want to bring back Portuguese as they seem to see it as part of their culture (and dislike the Indonesian influenced as it was because of them that they weren't independent for such a long time after the Portuguese left the island) and like the fact that the Portuguese and Brazilians are helping them setup an education system that uses it, something the Spaniards and some Hispanic-American governments haven't been so successful at as some large part of Filipino society dislike this part of their history for some genuine reasons I may add, but the Spanish language is not at fault here just those that colonized the Philippines.

  • @syarifidayat
    @syarifidayat 4 роки тому +2

    When i heard you said "the land are perfect for planting" I can say you are not even research about east timor deeply..
    Yes they aren in south asia, but the problem here is their climate geographic are bad.
    It same like aussie, bad for planting, but the different is aussie still have some land for planting cause aussie have large land, but east timor are not having any good land for planting
    Where they income? Nothing except just one refinery oil
    Im indonesia, but i think im fair about judge, and im acehnese with long history conflict with indonesia, we never surrender, my ancestor have clear reason and ability economy plan when they starting declare war to be come independent, at least we got our main reason for war now.
    Aceh income at that time from tax/resource/oil/gas/gold/etc exceeds what our receive from the central government , but east timor? nothing.
    It is what it is

  • @lightdp
    @lightdp 4 роки тому +1

    So .... You guys wanna rejoin?

    • @PaleRejent
      @PaleRejent 4 роки тому

      Those guys are probably not gonna join

    • @rizqifajartgr2105
      @rizqifajartgr2105 4 роки тому

      @@PaleRejent indonesian will reject easily

  • @heynunya5986
    @heynunya5986 3 роки тому +3

    Occupied 🤣 So they chose to be occupied by Australia now. Ok fair enough

    • @brendanpaterson5635
      @brendanpaterson5635 3 роки тому

      Australia is occupying Timor Leste? How, exactly? Cheers

    • @radithramadhan8488
      @radithramadhan8488 3 роки тому +2

      @@brendanpaterson5635 neocolonialism through spying and stealing their oils which is they primarily source of income

    • @brendanpaterson5635
      @brendanpaterson5635 3 роки тому

      @@radithramadhan8488 - Absolutely. Agree 100%. Cheers

  • @bnkundwa
    @bnkundwa 6 років тому +1

    I look forward to East Timor in the tradition of Bismarck.

  • @highihigh
    @highihigh 9 років тому +7

    Australia liberated East Timor

    • @johnykukuh1866
      @johnykukuh1866 9 років тому +16

      +highihigh and steal its oil :p

    • @muktibudi6194
      @muktibudi6194 8 років тому +7

      +highihigh never free of charge from australian donation hhaha

    • @cauliaw1566
      @cauliaw1566 5 років тому

      Australia enslaved east timor actually

    • @harrykumoro4335
      @harrykumoro4335 4 роки тому

      There is no free Gift dude........

    • @s21b0b
      @s21b0b 4 роки тому

      Australia was in the opposite position in 1975.

  • @johnjohnfrederickh.webber2124
    @johnjohnfrederickh.webber2124 2 роки тому

    The Agriculture of East Timor looks effective. The Agriculture export that everyone in East Timor can participate in would be wood. Agarwood for example...if everyone in East Timor has a few of these trees in thier backyard...thier government can buy them all (when the tree is ready) and sell it overseas. It's very profitable and quite simple to cultivate. All they would need is a national Agarwood tree nursery system to provide the little tree plant and distributed to all East Timorese. They are going to be financially rewarded I am sure. Also, this can be for all fruit bearing trees like coconuts, coffee or even durian. Trees for wood, trees for fruit.... they will need a nursery for each and all of them have thier tree farms to work with. 😃

    • @harukrentz435
      @harukrentz435 Рік тому +1

      Their products are expensive bcause theyre sold in USD. TL is still using USD as currency even 20 years after the independence, thats problematic for investment. Seriously your $1M can go further if you invest in Indonesia or Vietnam than TL.

  • @icalbourne1596
    @icalbourne1596 4 роки тому +3

    Timor leste provinsi miskin yg sok sokan ingin jadi negara tapi bandara masih di buatkan indonesia,kebutuhan pokok masih tergantung indonesia,masih nonton tv indonesia,pelajarnya banyak lari kuliah di indonesia,apa apa masih serba indonesia tapi sok sokan pake bahasa portugis mata uang dollar,maka rasaain tuh jatuh miskin karna kebutuhan pokok mahal,rakyat kecil krlaparan para pejabat kaya sendiri,haha dia kira pakai dollar amerika akan membuat warganya kaya kek amerika😂...

  • @kirsansubowo7801
    @kirsansubowo7801 3 роки тому +2

    Padahal asli australia adalah aborigin. Yang tidak berkuasa lagi.
    Lihat yg berkuasa kulitnya putih dimana2..

  • @muhammadsidik5281
    @muhammadsidik5281 Рік тому

    Indonesia happy to make timor leste becoming export destination

  • @dghmktsn3141
    @dghmktsn3141 4 роки тому +1

    wow so developed! 😀

  • @agussusanto8255
    @agussusanto8255 3 роки тому +1

    World bank :2021 timor leste is 152 poorest from 162 country

  • @superchart716
    @superchart716 4 роки тому +1

    Kalau mau merdeka itu SDM dibaikin dulu, lah ini negara setengahnya g bisa baca udh mau lepas. Dan terjadikan hasilnya.

  • @joaosousa6950
    @joaosousa6950 3 роки тому

    I know this is old video, but why not invest in tourism?

    • @harukrentz435
      @harukrentz435 3 роки тому +1

      You need to build infrastructure and education to support tourism industry, and you need a lot of money to do that. TL dont have that for various reasons.

  • @gsw8459
    @gsw8459 3 роки тому

    Viva 🇹🇱Timor leste from Suriname!!

  • @jeronimomanueldejesus1065
    @jeronimomanueldejesus1065 3 роки тому +1

    🇹🇱❤️💪💪

  • @aryadwipangga4155
    @aryadwipangga4155 5 років тому +10

    coba orang sana gnakan bahasa indonesia, psti tidak makin sengsara...
    orang indonesia pemurah, psti dpt banyak bantuan

  • @TheMsiaddict
    @TheMsiaddict 4 роки тому

    Like a timbuktu.

  • @gilbyadams7360
    @gilbyadams7360 3 роки тому +1

    Its better we (indonesia) let out east timor. The poor country. Australia wanted their oil.

  • @arjunasangpandawa96
    @arjunasangpandawa96 4 роки тому +1

    'Upper middle country?'
    Whos this Man??

    • @DaengKulle795
      @DaengKulle795 4 роки тому

      In fact their gdp per capita recently fall to lower income only 850

    • @pradjonohaditomo3616
      @pradjonohaditomo3616 3 роки тому

      Upper middle country????? Are you ok mister TL.....