This really proves the point that no matter what kind of bike you have and no matter what your plans are, if you chose it well and commit to it for a realistic period of time, there's nothing you can't do with it. It's liberating to know you're free to do something to your bike and not have to worry about what the next owner might or might not think because it's *your* bike.
***** It's a 10yr old bike, totally superceded by the new model Tigers now, so doesn't have much commercial value any more and need a bike for every day and long distance, so the answer was right in front of me !
You're turning a tiger into a rat that's in better condition than my tiger is to start with! Thanks Del you have saved me loads of money so far and given me confidence to do things on my bike.
Hi Del... I've purchased a Tiger 955i on a 03 plate which is the horrible orange or like you said 'Ginger'. Thanks for all your vids on the Triumph which have really helped me with maintenance jobs and ideas. I'm now in the process of choosing either the Frost wrap or the Raptor liner. Thanks again Del you make it all look so quick and easy. Thanks Adrian 👍
Hi Adrian, glad to hear you're getting stuck in, nothing like stamping your own mark on a bike! not sure what the raptor liner is, as haven't used it, but the Frost Wrap is totally temporary and peels off my hand as long as that's what you wanted! Good luck with it and the glad the videos could help you!
What a lovely idea! ;-) I think the Tiger is a good bike, a real Ardenhorse! And yet agile, even with panniers and 2 persons. Look forward following this. Good luck! John
BACK IN BLACK... ah nice one another project to follow least i can watch this one as you do it rather than going through 2 years of vids :D Glad you went for the Tiger its a brilliant bike to rat i think. oh yes back to sanding and painting everything black. watching your vids over the year gimme courage to do small bit of painting on my bandit. cheers del looking forward to the vids and seeing what name you give her.
bandit Brian Cheers Brian, ah, the name... we have of ideas, just trying to decide on the best thing, may chuck it out to the viewers in the future, but just gonna get stuck in to the work first !
OK, at the risk of sounding pervie - I love watching you work. Seem to pick up on something new every time. And a new paint product I didn't know about - nice.
I absolutely love you guys!!!!! when I seen the email for this video my miserable little face lit up! :D love the idea of a tiger rat and definitely look forward to the upcoming episodes. Keep up the good work you guys!!!!
ADHDbiker Ah thank you my man... that's very kind of you, glad you enjoy the videos, we need to retire, or win the lotto, then we could make videos every day lol ! ...more in the pipeline coming, stay tuned! Ride Safe, D&Px
Looking forward to seeing how things progress with this one, ive never really been a fan of the tiger but with you doing the work im sure it will be a beast when its done
Chris Holmes The Tiger's a great bike, perfect for what I want, and once you start ratting it, it just feels more like a permanent thing in your life...!
Brilliant idea Del. It looks so much better in black too. Can't wait for the next episode. Even anyone has a problem with you doing it just tell them that these tigers aren't going extinct haha. Ride safe guys
Jack Jones Ha ha, like that.. mond you Kack, you'd think they were extinct with the stodgy and bored responce you get when you talk to dealers about trading them in....all they want is the new mnodel bikes...!
Great job Del. I cant wait to see that bike all black. It would look awesome all black stock, but I cant wait to see what you come up with. To bad you wont rat the scrambler. That would be awesome haha
Kevin Schijven I'd have no problem doing the Scrambler if it was the right bike for the remit...but its not.. the Tiger fills the task in buckets, i still have a long way to go yet, but loving it already.
Moonfleet41 As much as I would like to see the scrambler rated out its a to young and nice of a bike, But the tiger is awesome as well I cant wait how it will turn out !! cheers mate
John Wills Bloody sure mate, and weld some plates over the top and bottom webs before it rusts out... then coat the whole damn thing with rubberised bed liner...
Ahh cheers thats solid advice. Up till now Ive just cleaned and waxoled it when I pull the rear wheel off but as you know that doesn't get you to where it really matters. Cheers del. Your videos keep me out of the bike shop which means I can afford the avon storms!
good paint that stuff... did my sv650 forks and my astra gte engine rocker cover with the gloss black version... looks great... I found it does take afew days to give a nice solid cure... but looks great
John Williams Hi John, that was one of the motivations... someone correct me if I'm wrong... but for all the looking in the world, we wouldn't find more than one Triumph Tiger ratted, lot of dirty, muddy ones, but not actually ratted! Early days, a full coat of black always comes first, and then a little dirt for some patina, then I can get in to the daftness lol!
On the Q&A matey cant remember if you covered helmet testing standards/ratings .Theres so many its a bit of a boggler...Looking at lids some of the twice the price lids seem to have lower ratings?? Any knowledge on this matter would be very welcome...Ignor if weve already covered this..cheers Springy...
I don't know if you're familiar with 'The Hichikers Guide To The galaxy', but a quote from a bowl of petunias, when called into existence hundreds of miles above a planet surface, as it fell, was (strangely) ... 'Oh no, not again!' So here we go. We're off. The first gasp on the forever twisted trip of rattification , weldage and daftness yet to behold. I recall being on a similar journey with you right from the start.and I'm hugely glad there is another round of new crazyness to enjoy. Hoorah!! Good idea to get the logic of the project out of the way right at the start. Now we'll be having no more of that malarkey from here on in, right? Right. Nuff said.
pgod1960 Couldn't put it better myself, now I can refer any dissenters to the first video in the series ! ...where they can also see how lovely it once was lol ! Thanks for watching Peter, looking forward to the process !
TroubadourJuggernaut Thanks mate, gotta get it in black first and I can't paint dirt on it, once that gets a few weeks of road crap on it and it's dry brushed in, it'll soon start looking the part ! You can't 'make' a Rat... only start the process and allow the elements to take over !
Hi Del, I am looking to black out my chrome rims on my 2002 750 Honda Ace. Had it for 10 years and I'm ready to Bobber it out. I do have one question about how you painted your rims. Will the black paint hold up when the time comes to change your tires? I was under the assumption, I would have to paint the entire rim without the tire on. I find your way easier and less costly and less timely. Thanks for taking time and effort to do these videos.
Joe Giampapa Hi Joe, you can mask off the spokes, or paint them in with the rim, that makes no difference... but the spokes will chip very quickly, as they vibrate more than you think... the playing card trick is best and get the paint in over that lip to prevent it chipping... a decent tyre fitter shouldn't chip them any more than they would chip an alloy rim, which is painted, so have a word with the fitter before he makes a start and am sure he will be careful !... Good luck with your project buddy, keep us posted!
Oh no.I've been trying to think of reasons not to rat my perfectly good Pan,And just spent £57 quid on paint and primer after doing the plastic welding repairs,and then I see you're latest vid.I'm gonna need some willpower.
gregg ferns Surrender to it brother, go swop the materials you bought for 10tins of matt black and a packet of sandpaper ! Free your spirit, give in to the darkside ! ... Luke I am your Father ...
mightlife Need it for work every day, and that was 3 hours in the garage, so had other things to do in the one day off...chucked it back together and thats that bit done...on to the front next chance i get...
Ah, cool. I know exactly your dilemma. I've been modifying my (only) bike in short bursts like that as well - damn restricting :( Hopefully buy an XBR 500 to scramblerise soon though! Looking forward to your progress. Pity about the DM thing. I bet they went with that guy who is already abroad and has done it all before - boring!
Why should people care what YOU do with YOUR bike? Looking good already del :) Thinking of painting my wheels and a couple other bits on the bike to make it mine :D Looking forward to the series :)
Ethan Senior Thanks Ethan, you wouldn't believe the flaming we get sometimes, not to mention piles of dislikes, but hey ho, at least you're (one) is promoting reactions eh lol! And you're right, stamp your own mark on it !
Was thinking of spraying my bandit wheels as they are flaking and I don't have the time to send them off for proper powder coating do you think I could paint straight on them or should I use an etch primer on the flaked areas
TheIang84 Same rules apply as painting anything....sand back all the loose stuff...and respray them with this 'tough black' stuff... no need for primer as it self etches...get it from any Simoniz stockist.. it'll act a bit like smoothrite.. and maybe wont look like freshly powder coated rims..but its bound to look better than it does now aye..!!
Moonfleet41 Thanks for the advice I'm not fussed about it looking like powder coat as its 6yrs old with 50k and I am planning on running it till the wheels fall off, I just don't want it looking like it has scabies
Cool vid - do you reckon the Tough Black would work on a traditional spoked wheel? I have an 04 Bonneville that's just starting to rust on the rims after yet another salty winter - powdercoating would be nice but financially is a non starter. And I'd be off the road for a couple of weeks. This looks like a quick and pretty cheap solution.
sleepyrider Damn right, it would be perfect mate, as long as you key it up properly, you will get a beautiful finish... it goes on like silk and matts out to a real satin shine... almost flawless as long as you lay it up wet enough... it's a mineral based product, like Smoothright, similar chemical base to oil paint, so it cures rather than dries, which makes it tough because it's not rock hard, so won't chip!
hi i like your videos its a shame they werent made when i was riding bikes i was a combination kid and i have had one it was great i and my father fitted it to an xs750 if i ever go back to bikes i will get a combination again its fun and a bit safer with 3 wheels keep up the vids and safe riding to all you bikers
From the states and can't get enough of this show haha I just bought my first bike at 38 yrs old. A 2007 Nightster with 5000mi. Any suggestions you could make?
+Peter Lombardi Hi Peter....congratulations on your Harley, Awesome.. and you ask "any suggestions"?.... yeah. go ride the piss out of it until the wheels fall off, smile every mile, and enjoy every minute... bikes are for riding, and you'll get to know a lot more about yourself that you ever know in the last 38 years.... Obviously a loud pipe make it better. as does a few buddies to ride beside you... anything else. just make it up as you go... keep in touch buddy, and enjoy your ride.. Del.
Thanks Del. I didn't know that fact about the spokes. Funny thing is I was going to tape off the spokes but only because I was worried I would have not done them well. I would like to send pics to you as I go, if that is alright. I've started reupholstering my seat. with a Teak colour leather. I am shaping pics through the process. Thanks Again.
Who cares what they say a good project particularly one that you have to trust your life/ safety to should start off with a sound base, no worries then got that covered . You to are like a couple of kids your so excited its fun to watch.
Does this bike not have a cotter pin in the rear axle? Or is it a nyloc nut? I couldn't see any castling on the nut and didn't see you remove or put the pin in at any time. Just curious, thanks for any response ahead of time.
My mate jus pointed out that my bike doesnt have a split pin or anything like that. Is the rear axle nut ment to have one or be locktighted on? Or is the torque enoigh to stop it spinning off?
Michelle watson If it has a hole in the end of the axle, and a castle nut...then yes, you'll need to fit a split pin to stop it moving....but mine, and many other bikes these days, has a simple Nylock nut...as long as it torques uo correctly then its fine..
Great vid, looking forward to seeing it come together. I gave my GPZ a dash of the old Matt black before it was my daily ride but I still need to do the front shocks & wheels. I could take my time with the fairings & tank when I painted them but can't really with wheels & shocks now as I can't afford to have the bike garaged up. How long did you leave between coats & how long before it was rideable?
MacBegbie Hi mate, if this was a 'posh' job and I wanted it to look nice, then the instructions say half hour between coats and 24hrs fully cured, but it's a Rat Bike, so it was 15mins between coats, so 3hrs to paint, 1/2hr to re-assamble and I was happy to have ridden it there and then, it was touch dry which was good enough for me ! Get stuck in mate!
You alright del. What items are you using, other than the tough paint here? For the prep etc. I got gold, flaky paint on my wheel at the moment and they need a spraying.
Check out the info on the Tough Paint can.. it needs no primer, so just sand back any flaking paint and imperfections, then de-grease and paint... Good luck with it..
@@Moonfleet41 Nice one. Is that nail varnish remover still good as a de-greaser? What grit sand paper? I know a lot of this stuff is available online, but I like your ghetto methods.
Blimey iv got a lot of catching up to do!! did you get all that black done with the one can? I Krylon'd my frame the other day, just need to edit the footage. Forks are in but still got a leaking oil seal... Think I'm nicking the lip on a sharp edge on the stanchion, 3rd time lucky when the next lot of seals arrive
Doberman Knives If you watch my seal replacement video bud there's a little trick using a milk carton... take one of them thin plastic milk cartons, slice a strip out of it about 1"x6" (just enough to wrap round the fork leg are barely overlap) go to the top of the stanchion, wrap the milk carton round it tight, and with a little grease in place, slip the seal over the milk carton to act as a bare-er, then carefully slid the milk carton all the way down over all the rough, sharp edges, and the seal will not touch the metal at all.... once you are 1" from where the seal needs to be, slip the seal off the carton and in to place... job done! Check my fork seal video, there's a demo there !
Moonfleet41 Cheers man, I have a sheet of .040" teflon that will do that job absolutely perfectly! New seals should be here in a day or two. Just need to try and capture the oil, its been flushed out a few times now so should be perfectly good to re-use again. Will have your vid on for reference :)
Doberman Knives Dont bother re-using the old oil mate, any damping oil breaks down as quickly as engine oil due to being forced through the damper rod holes over and over.... just stick some fresh Dextron ATF in there chap, costs pennies and get it anywhere..
Don't know what year your Tiger is , but mine is a little notchy when it's cold, but not so much I'd call it clunky... they do whine a little as do the cam gears, I think they're just generally a noisy engine, when was the last oil change, because it can make a difference...?
Mine's a 2005 with 29k miles. rides brilliantly. gear selection a bit "mechanical" but all in all a brillliant bike. Thanks for your reply. Where did you get your bike lift from by the way?
Ah, so a 955 then, when I had mine I know it benefited from fastidious change tensioning, once it's bang on and well lubricated, it smooths it out a lot...! The lift is a Sealey item, lots of options available...
Kaiser Wilhelm Same bike?....they couldn;t be more different buddy, perhaps they conform to the same genre...but as a machine they are poles apart.. three cylinder water cooled triple, against an air cooled boxer twin,.....unilever front suspension against regular tele forks,.....shaft against chain, etc etc etc.... they are both utterly relaible, its just down to preferance.. !
simon cartwright Sure thing mate, the elements will finish the job, they take a fare few thousand miles to build up a patina... Filming the Q&A on Sunday.
looks good, looking forward to seeing it progress... what's the different between the rat look, and my messed up, dented, bashed and plasti-welded scratcher bike?!? do I need to Matt black everything? :-)
Michael Caton SUCCESS!... we have a convert - excellent Sir and well done! Quite frankly mate you can use whatever paint you like.. in the past I've used car body paints, blackboard paint with a brush, exhaust paint adn this time some sort of tough anti roll bar paint... as long as it's matt black and permanent, you can use it ! To be honest, most of the time, I go with whatever is cheapest, I bought 6 tins of this, special offer, at £4 a can... and it seems to do the job!
Abouzar Kaboudian Hi Abouzar, Rattification is most certainly a word and says it all ! ...and you're dead right, right now it's anonymous, soon it will stand out like a tramp at a wedding lol !
Love it! Can't wait for more.. This (and the harley knowhow) was the reason I started to follow you guys in the first place. You should check out my facebook 'harley facelift album'.. That was done during this winter and tho I know I can do stuff the confidence to actually strip my bike and rebuild half of it came for the most part from you telling me/us it's easy. Job done, built most brackets myself and saved allot of money by having fun and drinking beer in my garage..
Niclas Erlund That's what it's all for Niclas, fine biker practice there Sir and the joy of ownership is only improved by getting down and dirty with your bike, and not just riding it... good on yer mate! Always drop us a line if you need any help, all the best, D&Px
just kidding so glad the tigers going to loose its ginger Ness its the only way to make a beautiful bike better following even more closely as tonys tiger fund is growing happy days rs d&p see you soon
Tony Lewis You know me mate, business as usual, it's time to think of something more inventive than scrim as it's everywhere now.... common as muck lol!
Oh No! Please don't do this to a 955 era triumph you will have me thinking about doing it to my Daytona yet again, I had come to the conclusion that you don't Rat triumph's. I know you are about to prove me wrong, damn you man lol. Dont get me wrong I am so looking forward to seeing what you do with this, infact I think its potentially going to be even more interesting / intriguing than "Damage" was, just don't inspire me too much haha.
Delboy de Reuck Hmm I missed that somehow. Hmm thanks del I am not so sure now hahaha I think it would look great ratted but I think either I would keep all fairing including the side panels or get rid of all fairing including the headlight fairing and get a new headlight unit or maybe not, argh. Thanks for the info on the paint mate and good luck with new project I am looking forward to it.
crap, so sorry delboy i accidentally clicked dislike but i instantly clicked like so hopefully it cancelled the dislike, so sorry!! enjoying the video and looking forward to it
matthew wyatt Ah so it's you is it lol... I always get one on every video lol ... no matter, you either click dislike a second time, which removes it, or as you did, click like and it switches it across, there's none showing at the moment ! (but it won't be long lol! )
Ok bud gonna be serious this time ..Its gonna be awesome OBVIOUSLY!...mad as you like please GOES WITHOUT SAYING! Above all enjoy it WE WILL!!! PS can you scrape off a little piece of ginger paint from somewhere and send it too me so i can "cherish " it?.... Maybe i can finally get rid of the Nicola Roberts calenda.......Ha ,Weirdo alert!!!! And i thought i said i would be serious this time...Never gonna happen!! Take care ......
Del...you are only going to Rat it black because it is Ginger...Why not Rat the whole thing Ginger and you can ride with your head held high!!!! ianfjr1300
GSFBANDIT1200S Am hoping that enough rust will form on the bare metal bits I intend for it to pass off for ginger, then I'll be a natural ginger, not painted !
I love that you are sharing your projects with us........and showing us we dont need a mega-garage to do it !
No indeed Dan, use what you have aye... Thanks buddy.
This really proves the point that no matter what kind of bike you have and no matter what your plans are, if you chose it well and commit to it for a realistic period of time, there's nothing you can't do with it. It's liberating to know you're free to do something to your bike and not have to worry about what the next owner might or might not think because it's *your* bike.
***** It's a 10yr old bike, totally superceded by the new model Tigers now, so doesn't have much commercial value any more and need a bike for every day and long distance, so the answer was right in front of me !
You're turning a tiger into a rat that's in better condition than my tiger is to start with! Thanks Del you have saved me loads of money so far and given me confidence to do things on my bike.
Steve Prosser Cheers Steve, glad the videos can help you, and good to hear from another Tiger owner too...what's youre like then, already ratty..?
Nice work, you couldn't resist !!! lol Lets see what takes place,,,,
Ride Safe .....
hdfatboy329 Thanks buddy, gonna be fun!
Tiger looking good with even more growl Del..Luvly jubbly.
motoedd Glad you like buddy !
That's another few hours of my life gone watching you RAT a bike! Really looking forward to it D&P!!!
Darren Norris Ayup Darren, you know how it is, can't resist painting it black !
This is your calling. It's what you need daily. You're lucky to have a videographer to record the events. T
+homerfj1100 I sure am buddy, Penny is a godsend... thanks for watching, much appreciated !
Hi Del... I've purchased a Tiger 955i on a 03 plate which is the horrible orange or like you said 'Ginger'. Thanks for all your vids on the Triumph which have really helped me with maintenance jobs and ideas. I'm now in the process of choosing either the Frost wrap or the Raptor liner. Thanks again Del you make it all look so quick and easy. Thanks Adrian 👍
Hi Adrian, glad to hear you're getting stuck in, nothing like stamping your own mark on a bike! not sure what the raptor liner is, as haven't used it, but the Frost Wrap is totally temporary and peels off my hand as long as that's what you wanted! Good luck with it and the glad the videos could help you!
I bloody love rat bikes! Very brave and I can't wait to see the journey of its evolution! Wooo hoooooo! Xx
jenny666barnish Well, I reckon it will get more looks than it ever would as a Ginger Biscuit ! x
What a lovely idea! ;-) I think the Tiger is a good bike, a real Ardenhorse! And yet agile, even with panniers and 2 persons. Look forward following this. Good luck! John
John Mård Hi Joh, Perfect analogy, strong heavy and agile...and perfect for a luxury mile monster.. thanks for watching... take care. Del.
Smile mile monster! May the force be with you! :-)
John Mård No no, you mean "May the force not see you"..!
BACK IN BLACK... ah nice one another project to follow least i can watch this one as you do it rather than going through 2 years of vids :D
Glad you went for the Tiger its a brilliant bike to rat i think. oh yes back to sanding and painting everything black. watching your vids over the year gimme courage to do small bit of painting on my bandit.
cheers del looking forward to the vids and seeing what name you give her.
bandit Brian Cheers Brian, ah, the name... we have of ideas, just trying to decide on the best thing, may chuck it out to the viewers in the future, but just gonna get stuck in to the work first !
OK, at the risk of sounding pervie - I love watching you work. Seem to pick up on something new every time. And a new paint product I didn't know about - nice.
B0M0A0K Hi mate, its pretty much the same stuff as smoothrite, so it'll last a long time.. thanks for wathicng buddy.. take care. Del.
I was bloody relieved you hung that caliper up lol
I absolutely love you guys!!!!! when I seen the email for this video my miserable little face lit up! :D love the idea of a tiger rat and definitely look forward to the upcoming episodes. Keep up the good work you guys!!!!
ADHDbiker Ah thank you my man... that's very kind of you, glad you enjoy the videos, we need to retire, or win the lotto, then we could make videos every day lol ! ...more in the pipeline coming, stay tuned! Ride Safe, D&Px
if I hear of the winning numbers i'll let you know we can split it ;-) lol
seriously looking forward to this little series del! Loved the last one with damage!
MaxOnTrack Thanks mate, garage felt empty without a Rat lol
Nice one Del, can't wait to see where you take it.
EastLondonKiwi Dont know meself yet mate, just painting it black first, then seeing where it evolves.. ! take care aye.. Del.
Looking forward to seeing how things progress with this one, ive never really been a fan of the tiger but with you doing the work im sure it will be a beast when its done
Chris Holmes The Tiger's a great bike, perfect for what I want, and once you start ratting it, it just feels more like a permanent thing in your life...!
Fair play mate I can't wait to see what it looks like
This is going to look great, really great.
Best Wishes, Brendan.
baconsoda Thanks Brendan, it's theraputic good fun and gives you an interesting bike to ride and enjoy when it's done !
Brilliant idea Del. It looks so much better in black too. Can't wait for the next episode. Even anyone has a problem with you doing it just tell them that these tigers aren't going extinct haha. Ride safe guys
Jack Jones Ha ha, like that.. mond you Kack, you'd think they were extinct with the stodgy and bored responce you get when you talk to dealers about trading them in....all they want is the new mnodel bikes...!
Just sounds like common sense to me, looking forward to seeing the transformation as usual fella... take care both :)
GTs Garage Cheers Grumps, you know how it is, use what you have !
Can't wait to see this develop Del.
Looking forward to watching this girl develop 👍
Great job Del. I cant wait to see that bike all black. It would look awesome all black stock, but I cant wait to see what you come up with. To bad you wont rat the scrambler. That would be awesome haha
Kevin Schijven I'd have no problem doing the Scrambler if it was the right bike for the remit...but its not.. the Tiger fills the task in buckets, i still have a long way to go yet, but loving it already.
Moonfleet41 As much as I would like to see the scrambler rated out its a to young and nice of a bike, But the tiger is awesome as well I cant wait how it will turn out !! cheers mate
Great work Del. You're temping me to rat my st1100 lol. Now to part 2!
John Wills Go for it John....you know you want to..lol
Tempting alright. Would be a good excuse to service the swing arm. You know what the pan is like!
John Wills Bloody sure mate, and weld some plates over the top and bottom webs before it rusts out... then coat the whole damn thing with rubberised bed liner...
Ahh cheers thats solid advice. Up till now Ive just cleaned and waxoled it when I pull the rear wheel off but as you know that doesn't get you to where it really matters. Cheers del. Your videos keep me out of the bike shop which means I can afford the avon storms!
John Wills Cheers John, glad to hear the videos can help buddy.... why not join the forum and meet the other idiots... bikers.boards.net/
Its neither a new bike nor an old classic. I think It's a prime candidate for rattage. Looking forward to this project. RSM8
Ben tentwentytwo Yeah, exactly mate, and very well said...too old to pamper and cherish, and too new and common to pamper and cherish...lol
Cant wait to see where it goes.
good paint that stuff... did my sv650 forks and my astra gte engine rocker cover with the gloss black version... looks great... I found it does take afew days to give a nice solid cure... but looks great
kyrus13 Thanks mate, good to have an endorsement on it... it looks better after a few days thats for sure..
Ratty Tiger, great idea :) I for one will be watching with interest :D
Boycie Swindon Cant think why mate...lol...
Must be the paint fumes clouding my judgement 😂
Del, so glad to be seeing some rattage back in the garage..for me thats what dbg is all about. :)
Ryan Woolley Cheers Ryan...it was never gonna be long aye...!!!!
Great to see something different being ratted. Can't wait for more mods. Cheers both
John Williams Hi John, that was one of the motivations... someone correct me if I'm wrong... but for all the looking in the world, we wouldn't find more than one Triumph Tiger ratted, lot of dirty, muddy ones, but not actually ratted! Early days, a full coat of black always comes first, and then a little dirt for some patina, then I can get in to the daftness lol!
Is it really as easy as that! I am now thinking of spraying my Tigers frame and wheels black but maybe leaving the tank and side panels silver!?
triplecheeseburger Go for it mate, its better than the factory finish.
Just can't decide gloss or mat!
On the Q&A matey cant remember if you covered helmet testing standards/ratings .Theres so many its a bit of a boggler...Looking at lids some of the twice the price lids seem to have lower ratings?? Any knowledge on this matter would be very welcome...Ignor if weve already covered this..cheers Springy...
springy 2112 Yes mate, we covered it a few episodes ago, and we're loaded up with questions now... sorry mate!
I don't know if you're familiar with 'The Hichikers Guide To The galaxy', but a quote from a bowl of petunias, when called into existence hundreds of miles above a planet surface, as it fell, was (strangely) ... 'Oh no, not again!'
So here we go. We're off. The first gasp on the forever twisted trip of rattification , weldage and daftness yet to behold. I recall being on a similar journey with you right from the start.and I'm hugely glad there is another round of new crazyness to enjoy.
Hoorah!!
Good idea to get the logic of the project out of the way right at the start. Now we'll be having no more of that malarkey from here on in, right?
Right.
Nuff said.
pgod1960 Couldn't put it better myself, now I can refer any dissenters to the first video in the series ! ...where they can also see how lovely it once was lol ! Thanks for watching Peter, looking forward to the process !
Your paint job looks factory from where I am sitting !!
TroubadourJuggernaut Thanks mate, gotta get it in black first and I can't paint dirt on it, once that gets a few weeks of road crap on it and it's dry brushed in, it'll soon start looking the part ! You can't 'make' a Rat... only start the process and allow the elements to take over !
Hi Del, I am looking to black out my chrome rims on my 2002 750 Honda Ace. Had it for 10 years and I'm ready to Bobber it out. I do have one question about how you painted your rims. Will the black paint hold up when the time comes to change your tires? I was under the assumption, I would have to paint the entire rim without the tire on. I find your way easier and less costly and less timely.
Thanks for taking time and effort to do these videos.
Joe Giampapa Hi Joe, you can mask off the spokes, or paint them in with the rim, that makes no difference... but the spokes will chip very quickly, as they vibrate more than you think... the playing card trick is best and get the paint in over that lip to prevent it chipping... a decent tyre fitter shouldn't chip them any more than they would chip an alloy rim, which is painted, so have a word with the fitter before he makes a start and am sure he will be careful !... Good luck with your project buddy, keep us posted!
Tiger is a great idea.
Oh no.I've been trying to think of reasons not to rat my perfectly good Pan,And just spent £57 quid on paint and primer after doing the plastic welding repairs,and then I see you're latest vid.I'm gonna need some willpower.
gregg ferns Surrender to it brother, go swop the materials you bought for 10tins of matt black and a packet of sandpaper ! Free your spirit, give in to the darkside ! ... Luke I am your Father ...
Been eagerly anticipating this buddy. It had to happen :)
DukeDyson It was inevitable... like the Borg say 'resistance is fertile' lol ...
One question though - why the hurry to paint and chuck the bits back on? Wouldn't it be better to do it all separately?
mightlife Need it for work every day, and that was 3 hours in the garage, so had other things to do in the one day off...chucked it back together and thats that bit done...on to the front next chance i get...
Ah, cool. I know exactly your dilemma. I've been modifying my (only) bike in short bursts like that as well - damn restricting :(
Hopefully buy an XBR 500 to scramblerise soon though!
Looking forward to your progress.
Pity about the DM thing. I bet they went with that guy who is already abroad and has done it all before - boring!
Why should people care what YOU do with YOUR bike? Looking good already del :) Thinking of painting my wheels and a couple other bits on the bike to make it mine :D Looking forward to the series :)
Ethan Senior Thanks Ethan, you wouldn't believe the flaming we get sometimes, not to mention piles of dislikes, but hey ho, at least you're (one) is promoting reactions eh lol! And you're right, stamp your own mark on it !
Was thinking of spraying my bandit wheels as they are flaking and I don't have the time to send them off for proper powder coating do you think I could paint straight on them or should I use an etch primer on the flaked areas
TheIang84 Same rules apply as painting anything....sand back all the loose stuff...and respray them with this 'tough black' stuff... no need for primer as it self etches...get it from any Simoniz stockist.. it'll act a bit like smoothrite.. and maybe wont look like freshly powder coated rims..but its bound to look better than it does now aye..!!
Moonfleet41 Thanks for the advice I'm not fussed about it looking like powder coat as its 6yrs old with 50k and I am planning on running it till the wheels fall off, I just don't want it looking like it has scabies
This is going to be interesting I will be following. great vid Del RSM8
Cool vid - do you reckon the Tough Black would work on a traditional spoked wheel? I have an 04 Bonneville that's just starting to rust on the rims after yet another salty winter - powdercoating would be nice but financially is a non starter. And I'd be off the road for a couple of weeks. This looks like a quick and pretty cheap solution.
sleepyrider Damn right, it would be perfect mate, as long as you key it up properly, you will get a beautiful finish... it goes on like silk and matts out to a real satin shine... almost flawless as long as you lay it up wet enough... it's a mineral based product, like Smoothright, similar chemical base to oil paint, so it cures rather than dries, which makes it tough because it's not rock hard, so won't chip!
hi i like your videos its a shame they werent made when i was riding bikes i was a combination kid and i have had one it was great i and my father fitted it to an xs750 if i ever go back to bikes i will get a combination again its fun and a bit safer with 3 wheels keep up the vids and safe riding to all you bikers
Colin gilbert-eastwood Thanks Colin.. glad you enjoy the videos.. take care, Del.
From the states and can't get enough of this show haha I just bought my first bike at 38 yrs old. A 2007 Nightster with 5000mi. Any suggestions you could make?
+Peter Lombardi Hi Peter....congratulations on your Harley, Awesome.. and you ask "any suggestions"?.... yeah. go ride the piss out of it until the wheels fall off, smile every mile, and enjoy every minute... bikes are for riding, and you'll get to know a lot more about yourself that you ever know in the last 38 years.... Obviously a loud pipe make it better. as does a few buddies to ride beside you... anything else. just make it up as you go... keep in touch buddy, and enjoy your ride.. Del.
+Moonfleet41 thanks brother! Will do and anxious to ride!
Its gonna look rather tasty in all black.
Thanks Del. I didn't know that fact about the spokes. Funny thing is I was going to tape off the spokes but only because I was worried I would have not done them well. I would like to send pics to you as I go, if that is alright. I've started reupholstering my seat. with a Teak colour leather. I am shaping pics through the process.
Thanks Again.
Joe Giampapa Good luck with it Jeo, id like to see that when its done...enjoy the project buddy... Del.
Who cares what they say a good project particularly one that you have to trust your life/ safety to should start off with a sound base, no worries then got that covered . You to are like a couple of kids your so excited its fun to watch.
Andrew Earl Kids..? said that right..nobody ever told me i had to grow up and buy a caravan.....so ill stay where i am till they carry me out..!
Does this bike not have a cotter pin in the rear axle? Or is it a nyloc nut?
I couldn't see any castling on the nut and didn't see you remove or put the pin in at any time.
Just curious, thanks for any response ahead of time.
No split pin... its a 28mm Nyloc nut..!
Okay, had to ask.
It was weird to not see a split pin.
My mate jus pointed out that my bike doesnt have a split pin or anything like that. Is the rear axle nut ment to have one or be locktighted on? Or is the torque enoigh to stop it spinning off?
Michelle watson If it has a hole in the end of the axle, and a castle nut...then yes, you'll need to fit a split pin to stop it moving....but mine, and many other bikes these days, has a simple Nylock nut...as long as it torques uo correctly then its fine..
Ok then thanks for quick reply. I had to have a nut mechined at work for my honda so i better go get some locktight i guess 😊
tiger bike? what brand is that?
what the bloody hell are you playing at
Great vid, looking forward to seeing it come together.
I gave my GPZ a dash of the old Matt black before it was my daily ride but I still need to do the front shocks & wheels. I could take my time with the fairings & tank when I painted them but can't really with wheels & shocks now as I can't afford to have the bike garaged up. How long did you leave between coats & how long before it was rideable?
MacBegbie Hi mate, if this was a 'posh' job and I wanted it to look nice, then the instructions say half hour between coats and 24hrs fully cured, but it's a Rat Bike, so it was 15mins between coats, so 3hrs to paint, 1/2hr to re-assamble and I was happy to have ridden it there and then, it was touch dry which was good enough for me ! Get stuck in mate!
Braver than me putting all that back together when wet hahaha
You alright del. What items are you using, other than the tough paint here? For the prep etc. I got gold, flaky paint on my wheel at the moment and they need a spraying.
Check out the info on the Tough Paint can.. it needs no primer, so just sand back any flaking paint and imperfections, then de-grease and paint... Good luck with it..
@@Moonfleet41 Nice one. Is that nail varnish remover still good as a de-greaser? What grit sand paper? I know a lot of this stuff is available online, but I like your ghetto methods.
@@Moonfleet41 Sorry Del, Ignore me, you clearly say 320 grit in the video lol.
@@Hunterx777x Yeah, 320 will get right through the old paint and leave a nice course key for the ney paint to cling on to... Good luck with it mate.
How many cans of paint did that take?
Michelle watson About a can and a half per wheel, and two cans on the rest of the bike..
This is going to be interesting, stay tuned!
Blimey iv got a lot of catching up to do!! did you get all that black done with the one can? I Krylon'd my frame the other day, just need to edit the footage. Forks are in but still got a leaking oil seal... Think I'm nicking the lip on a sharp edge on the stanchion, 3rd time lucky when the next lot of seals arrive
Doberman Knives If you watch my seal replacement video bud there's a little trick using a milk carton... take one of them thin plastic milk cartons, slice a strip out of it about 1"x6" (just enough to wrap round the fork leg are barely overlap) go to the top of the stanchion, wrap the milk carton round it tight, and with a little grease in place, slip the seal over the milk carton to act as a bare-er, then carefully slid the milk carton all the way down over all the rough, sharp edges, and the seal will not touch the metal at all.... once you are 1" from where the seal needs to be, slip the seal off the carton and in to place... job done! Check my fork seal video, there's a demo there !
Moonfleet41 Cheers man, I have a sheet of .040" teflon that will do that job absolutely perfectly! New seals should be here in a day or two. Just need to try and capture the oil, its been flushed out a few times now so should be perfectly good to re-use again. Will have your vid on for reference :)
Doberman Knives Dont bother re-using the old oil mate, any damping oil breaks down as quickly as engine oil due to being forced through the damper rod holes over and over.... just stick some fresh Dextron ATF in there chap, costs pennies and get it anywhere..
Moonfleet41 Even tho the oil thats in has only been there for about 8 days?
Doberman Knives Oh thats no time, i was under the impression you had ridden on it... no, if its new like that, stick it back in.!
Just a quicky Delboy.... do Tigers always have noisy gears... very clunky? or does mine need clutch looking at perhaps.
Don't know what year your Tiger is , but mine is a little notchy when it's cold, but not so much I'd call it clunky... they do whine a little as do the cam gears, I think they're just generally a noisy engine, when was the last oil change, because it can make a difference...?
Mine's a 2005 with 29k miles. rides brilliantly. gear selection a bit "mechanical" but all in all a brillliant bike. Thanks for your reply. Where did you get your bike lift from by the way?
Ah, so a 955 then, when I had mine I know it benefited from fastidious change tensioning, once it's bang on and well lubricated, it smooths it out a lot...! The lift is a Sealey item, lots of options available...
Del. Tiger or BMW GS.? I know technically they're the same bike..... ish, but how reliable are they.?
Kaiser Wilhelm Same bike?....they couldn;t be more different buddy, perhaps they conform to the same genre...but as a machine they are poles apart.. three cylinder water cooled triple, against an air cooled boxer twin,.....unilever front suspension against regular tele forks,.....shaft against chain, etc etc etc.... they are both utterly relaible, its just down to preferance.. !
I should spend more time looking at the specs. haha Thanks Del
Looks good del to shiny at moment 4 rat bike but bit of riding sort that out when is q and a?
simon cartwright Sure thing mate, the elements will finish the job, they take a fare few thousand miles to build up a patina... Filming the Q&A on Sunday.
sweet look forward to answers ride safe
looks good, looking forward to seeing it progress... what's the different between the rat look, and my messed up, dented, bashed and plasti-welded scratcher bike?!? do I need to Matt black everything? :-)
Thanks for that!
Right, that's it, I'm fed up with my blue bandit, I'm gonna rat it.... Inspired I am. Can I ask what paint your using?
Michael Caton SUCCESS!... we have a convert - excellent Sir and well done! Quite frankly mate you can use whatever paint you like.. in the past I've used car body paints, blackboard paint with a brush, exhaust paint adn this time some sort of tough anti roll bar paint... as long as it's matt black and permanent, you can use it ! To be honest, most of the time, I go with whatever is cheapest, I bought 6 tins of this, special offer, at £4 a can... and it seems to do the job!
Nice.... It's gonna be rat as fuck!
Michael Caton Excellent stuff, make some videos and I'll watch every one!
Its yours man make it the way you want
I guess it really can be just that simple :)
I thought you had finally cracked, but ! Looking forward to rest Del
***** Better than being boring aye...!
Kirstie Allsopp would never rat a Tiger. (Just ribbing you, look forward to the project as always.)
Paul Caskey No, she's rag roll it and then artex it.... errr, which gives me an idea .......!
It's just an "ordinary" bike now. It will be way cooler when you move along with the ratification ;-)
BTW, is that a word in your garage? :-p
Abouzar Kaboudian Hi Abouzar, Rattification is most certainly a word and says it all ! ...and you're dead right, right now it's anonymous, soon it will stand out like a tramp at a wedding lol !
Stick playing cards between the rubber and the rim for painting.
Check the next video after this one at 6.23 onward ua-cam.com/video/biyZgrdh4EE/v-deo.html
Aaaaah LONARD MC DONARD glasshopper
Your pheonix will LISE FLOM the ashes in the form of a GLEAT beast to be fear by AW who set Eye on !
Love it! Can't wait for more.. This (and the harley knowhow) was the reason I started to follow you guys in the first place. You should check out my facebook 'harley facelift album'.. That was done during this winter and tho I know I can do stuff the confidence to actually strip my bike and rebuild half of it came for the most part from you telling me/us it's easy. Job done, built most brackets myself and saved allot of money by having fun and drinking beer in my garage..
Niclas Erlund That's what it's all for Niclas, fine biker practice there Sir and the joy of ownership is only improved by getting down and dirty with your bike, and not just riding it... good on yer mate! Always drop us a line if you need any help, all the best, D&Px
Dunno about rat bike, more like stealth bomber! A sensible rat bike, what ever next...
Ben Haskell Trust me mate, it won't be sensible, this is gonna be very silly indeed, I can assure you lol!
Haha I look forward to it!
show mestre !
Muito obrigado Senhor
Might wanna cover tape up that brake rotor next time
Oh No........ Rat'a'ging the Tiger lol
Your brake caliper is stressing your skyhook. Lol, jk mate.
thickheart28 cool ... I see what you did there lol !
do you take that serious?
just kidding so glad the tigers going to loose its ginger Ness its the only way to make a beautiful bike better following even more closely as tonys tiger fund is growing happy days rs d&p see you soon
Tony Lewis You know me mate, business as usual, it's time to think of something more inventive than scrim as it's everywhere now.... common as muck lol!
and muck sticks too if you need any chain mail ill start knitting
Tony Lewis chain mail?? you make chain mail??
come on I can make anything out of scrap
Tony Lewis get knitting brother... how much a square foot???
Oh No! Please don't do this to a 955 era triumph you will have me thinking about doing it to my Daytona yet again, I had come to the conclusion that you don't Rat triumph's.
I know you are about to prove me wrong, damn you man lol.
Dont get me wrong I am so looking forward to seeing what you do with this, infact I think its potentially going to be even more interesting / intriguing than "Damage" was, just don't inspire me too much haha.
Triple Blue oh and why am i wincing as soon as you started with the sandpaper lol
Delboy de Reuck Hmm I missed that somehow. Hmm thanks del I am not so sure now hahaha I think it would look great ratted but I think either I would keep all fairing including the side panels or get rid of all fairing including the headlight fairing and get a new headlight unit or maybe not, argh.
Thanks for the info on the paint mate and good luck with new project I am looking forward to it.
Triple Blue Every rat starts with a coat of all over black....get that done, and you'll soon know what to do next.. !
Moonfleet41 You are a bad influence sir but in a good way. Bad influence not a bad name for your next rat I think lol
Triple Blue Already got a name lined up for it, just got to get it a bit further along before we say....after all, its hardly even started yet.!
crap, so sorry delboy i accidentally clicked dislike but i instantly clicked like so hopefully it cancelled the dislike, so sorry!! enjoying the video and looking forward to it
matthew wyatt Ah so it's you is it lol... I always get one on every video lol ... no matter, you either click dislike a second time, which removes it, or as you did, click like and it switches it across, there's none showing at the moment ! (but it won't be long lol! )
Should of kept the Bandit Del!
Paul Bourton i did....for 5 years...time rolls on..! this is better for two-up mile munching...
HOW VERY DARE YOU - justify yourself to other for doing what you want with YOUR bike? Yay to a new rat project!!
Barry Carruthers Thanks Barry, couldn't help meself, not justifying it, just trying to head off a few of the trollers before they bother ha ha!
Ok bud gonna be serious this time ..Its gonna be awesome OBVIOUSLY!...mad as you like please GOES WITHOUT SAYING! Above all enjoy it WE WILL!!!
PS can you scrape off a little piece of ginger paint from somewhere and send it too me so i can "cherish " it?....
Maybe i can finally get rid of the Nicola Roberts calenda.......Ha ,Weirdo alert!!!!
And i thought i said i would be serious this time...Never gonna happen!!
Take care ......
springy 2112 Apparently, Nicola is the stunt double for Ronald McDonald...! Just sayin..!
Del...you are only going to Rat it black because it is Ginger...Why not Rat the whole thing Ginger and you can ride with your head held high!!!!
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GSFBANDIT1200S Am hoping that enough rust will form on the bare metal bits I intend for it to pass off for ginger, then I'll be a natural ginger, not painted !
GINGER KILLER!!!!! HATE YOU!!!!
love yous really.......
springy 2112 To kill the ginger only makes it stronger grass hopper...lol
You're ruining a lovely bike!! Why're you doing that for??? hahahahaa
Mikolaj1406 There had to be one...lol!!!! ;-)
While i usually love your videos fella, building a rat out of a modern machine is entirely missing the point of what ratting is all about :(.
Your bike, your choice. Don't pay any attention to the 'purists'.
mightlife Ha ha, gotta love the pursists, its good sport to bait them aye.!
Indeeds!
I'm on OSS and sometimes dare to post a picture of my 'cafe-fighter' (I'd never call it that there though, probably get banned hehe.