The Triumph clock is horrible, it ruins the bike, the TFT single clock on the Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450 is far superior and that bike costs just £4,850 in comparison.
It's the best on paper but I just don't really like the looks of that fuel tank so much... And the price is a bit off if you can get a 1000cc 155hp hornet with ohlins suspension for £9999 why £12099 for the z900rs? Overpriced retro markets are too hyped I guess.
@marcoaguiar3226 Totally agree about price politics on Retro bikes. Z900 RS is just a beautiful motorcycle IMHO. A new hornet will shake the market well, I just hope that Honda will come up with the S version...it could be a good substitute for someone who wants a sport touring motorcycle without IMU at a reasonable price
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not updated for 2025... I think not even a color change
Kawa Z900RS Cafe for me. Flash the ECU and put on Akra headers. K&N air/oil filter, bored out airbox. Öhlins cartridges up front and shock in the back. Brembo up front with steel braided lines and master cylinder. Forged aluminum wheels. Pirelli Angel GT. I've caught me a couple sport bikes on the road. That 948 pulls hard at 'street' speeds. And it sounds a-mazing.
Agree 100% about the Moto Guzzi V7 Sport which looks like a very interesting proposition. That limited edition rose gold Ducati on the other hand is absolutely rancid lol.
I've ridden a lot of retros naked styles. Get used ones! I highly suggest followings: 1). Honda CB1100 (get RS if you can). Just get it...and DO NOT SELL IT! It is the GOAT of the naked classic bike - and I can attest to this statement. 2). Triumph Twin / Thrux - but DO upgrade exhaust! You will love the unique grinding of its engine. 3). Kawasaki Z900RS if you want a sportier ones. Luckily, they still make it. Clean finish that will do everything you ask - this bike is all about quality of buildmanship. Personally, I now ride a 2016 Harley Roadster being turned into a cafe. Its a fun tinkering project that will keep me busy for a while. So many good bikes in the used market right now - it's a good time to be a rider! :D
I prefer the CB1100EX, especially the 2016 black with spoked wheels. I like the panels to all match in colour. I had one. Was going to be my forever bike until a lady turned into me and wrote it off.
that CB1100-EX is the model to get - a magnificent bike. Beautiful and smooth engine and of course Honda quality. Very few came to the USA and you are right, that’s a rare and valuable bike. I was looking at a used one at reasonable price two years ago but the weight and feel of the big 4 engine just wasn’t right for me - I’m too used to the parallel twins.
My picks of the bunch- Royal Enfield Bear 650 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone Ten Yamaha XSR900 (Powerbronze Cobra fairing would look tops) Ducati Scrambler Full Throttle
@@thomasneedham1512 White and red stripe? Yeah it's very classical looking. If I had the choice, I'm not sure I would go with the white metallic vs the other color option. Might be a hard decision however.
@ The surprise is that the White paint has depth and looks so very good, especially with the contrast of the wheels. I had just bought a GXRS 1000 GT+ but if I had stayed with a naked bike, the Yamaha was top of the list for looks.
Why no one is talking about kawasaki w800. It's the most authentic modern retro and is so barely mentioned in the media these days. Unfortunately we'll lose that model in few years due to euro restrictions
Same weight and about the same power as a RE Interceptor 650, My latest dealer couldn't unload a low mileage used model for over 17 months and $3000 USD in discounts from its original price. It is still there. Heavy, slow and uncomfortable means it is a hard sell.
I owned a 2021 W800 that I bought 2 years old at $6900. They do not sell. Most dealers get one and it sits for a year or two until a niche buyer, probably over 50 years old buys it at a hefty discount. It is an absolute beautiful bike, and authentic retro with analog gauges, wire wheels, air cooled, the unique bevel shaft OHC drive, 370 degree crank and even authentic Dunlop tire with center groove (that absolutely suck and all owners switch to better tires like Michelins (very limited selection. of the uncommon tire size). It’s got fantastic low end torque - can cruise comfortably in 5th gear (the top gear) at 25mpg and even accelerate acceptably without downshift. But the vibration is strong over 3500RPM and the bike feels heavy in handling. Once I demoed the RE 650 bikes I decided to switch. Those 650s equal the HP of the 800 but handle better and don’t have the heavy vibe. I chose the Shotgun 650 and absolutely love it. Happy to have alloy wheels and tubeless tires. Took a solid loss selling the W below expected (realistic) market value. No interest on the used market and after a few months just had to let it go.
I own the Honda CB 350 H'ness that I ride during my annual winter habitats in Vietnam. A very pleasant ride that doesn't feel like much of a downgrade from my BMW R1250GS that I ride in Denmark and the rest of Europe during the rest of the year. The 350 is a brilliant bike for the conditions that prevail in Vietnam. I wouldn't want to ride it on a European motorway though because it lacks acceleration power. It's also deliciously noisy, something Honda designed to complete the retro impression. I even had a guy at a filling station in Vietnam refuse to sell me 95 octane petrol because he was duped and thought the bike was out of the 70s. He changed his mind when I pointed to the ABS ring and showed him the digital display
I always loved Moto Guzzi V7, but hated its front system (single disc brake and weak fork). Now, this new Sport edition, especially in that lime yellow colour, looks really really tempting!
Forlornly watched another brilliant MotoB retro upload with no RD350LC in the list. Oh for a return to those halcyon, glorious days in the 80’s-90’s…☹️
The Honda, the Classic 650 and the XSR are all fantastic. The Bear will probably be the best seller here though. I do like that Bobber, but I'm hoping there's an upscaled GT Continental on the horizon with a fairing and 17 inch wheels! There's a Thruxton shaped hole to fill!
Very informative channel, thank you, I subscribed! Would it be possible, if you list the specs of a model, to tell if cruise control is available? It's not important if it is stock or as an option... but the cruise control is important in a country where speed control is common and expensive, for those "moving to the playground" travels. And anyway, it's handy if the "moving" is long... so you don't have to stay focused all the time.
Overall the triumph speed twin , hands down stands the best among the retro motorcycles but it has to be a fact that the Royal Enfield bear 650 stands well for its appealing retro design and its price .... Just love how Royal Enfield is producing their motorcycles ❤️
Bob is an ambassador for all the brands. He never says anything negative ... all the new models are always 'better' !. What you are really looking at is an 'infomercial'.
Wish you had a choice of black and alloy finish on the Guzzi and triumph engines, love the bmw R12s but at over 20 grand probably not in the cards. Thanks for the update moto bob
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Wow. You forgot the Kawasaki Z900rs! What’s up with that? Performance, quality, handling, and styling, it beats most of the bikes on your list. Furthermore, it’s the only retro with a beautiful and powerful Inline-4 engine like the original Z’s of the 70’s.
Sooo, a new paint scheme is considered an update these days? That’s basically all that’s changed with the Triumph line (except Speed twin). Ducati Scramblers were updated in 2024. All they get for 2025 is a stripped down version and a dressed up version with Rizoma bling. Just saying.
The Enfields 650 are the most "authentic" in this "retro" segment. It's possible to service them with a screwdriver + pair of players, the power is JUST of what is expected from this type of bikes, and they do look not bad at all - not to mention the price. So I'd take a couple of different Enfields, rather than a fancy Ducati, Triumph, or other overpowered "retro" 🤷♂🤷♂ Why people bother to buy a fast bike without wind protection - riding fast, gathering insects on the visor - I can understand. These bikes give MORE riding pleasure, but there are also some downsides - bugs/wind/cold.... so a bike of 40 -50 Hp for ME is fine enough.
650 Bear looks nice but man I want min 80hp on my retro. RE needs to up the power game for UK and European markets maybe produce cheap 800 900 or 1200cc engines...
I’d love to know the real reason why the W800 isn’t available in the UK. It’s one of the best modern retros in the market if you’re in North America, Asia or Europe but for whatever reasons, not available in the UK. It can’t be due to emissions or noise as RE offers very similar air cooled bikes.
Yamaha has not said they will sell the GP model in the US, which is a disappointing thing to hear as the base bike is pretty amazing and would be even more so with the GP kit on it.
The Honda and Trimph offers look nice. Great bikes for city fun. Royal Enfield has been launching nice design bikes but the reliability records are not good.
The Triumphs and RE’s are some sweet looking retros. But I agree with you, there’s just something about that Guzzi.
Triumph messed up by not sticking with the analogue gauge.
Fr that shit is foul
Royal Enfield did a better job using the round real estate to put a screen into.
Disgraceful choice to choose the screen from a cheap trident.
I want a single analog
The Triumph clock is horrible, it ruins the bike, the TFT single clock on the Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450 is far superior and that bike costs just £4,850 in comparison.
What about the best retro on the market.. Kawasaki Z900 RS?
It's the best on paper but I just don't really like the looks of that fuel tank so much... And the price is a bit off if you can get a 1000cc 155hp hornet with ohlins suspension for £9999 why £12099 for the z900rs? Overpriced retro markets are too hyped I guess.
@marcoaguiar3226 Totally agree about price politics on Retro bikes. Z900 RS is just a beautiful motorcycle IMHO. A new hornet will shake the market well, I just hope that Honda will come up with the S version...it could be a good substitute for someone who wants a sport touring motorcycle without IMU at a reasonable price
not updated for 2025... I think not even a color change
It's ok If you like 4 cyl's
Unfortunately without update for 2025 but the Z900RS remains the best and the real retrobike on the market. 😎🏍
Appreciate your impeccable work Bob!
🏍️💨
I like the Bear 650 but one of the triumphs had my interest the most.
Keep up the great work buddy!
w800 for me
Wonder why its not included here?????
Absolutely love the R12S.
The RE 650 Classic definitely has my attention. Great looks!
Had I known it was coming out I might've delayed getting my Continental. It's gorgeous
Kawa Z900RS Cafe for me. Flash the ECU and put on Akra headers. K&N air/oil filter, bored out airbox. Öhlins cartridges up front and shock in the back. Brembo up front with steel braided lines and master cylinder. Forged aluminum wheels. Pirelli Angel GT. I've caught me a couple sport bikes on the road. That 948 pulls hard at 'street' speeds. And it sounds a-mazing.
Excellent video! Thank you for showcasing the 2025 motorcycles. I have already decided and bought the BMW R12S. I think it's a beautiful motorcycle.
Agree 100% about the Moto Guzzi V7 Sport which looks like a very interesting proposition. That limited edition rose gold Ducati on the other hand is absolutely rancid lol.
Truimph Bobber TFC is right up my alley. I'll park it right next to my Indian Scout Bobber 20.
I'm 42 and that Classic 650 looks amazing. The only thing I'd question is whether a 650 is enough of an engine to carry that extra weight.
I've ridden a lot of retros naked styles. Get used ones! I highly suggest followings:
1). Honda CB1100 (get RS if you can). Just get it...and DO NOT SELL IT! It is the GOAT of the naked classic bike - and I can attest to this statement.
2). Triumph Twin / Thrux - but DO upgrade exhaust! You will love the unique grinding of its engine.
3). Kawasaki Z900RS if you want a sportier ones. Luckily, they still make it. Clean finish that will do everything you ask - this bike is all about quality of buildmanship.
Personally, I now ride a 2016 Harley Roadster being turned into a cafe. Its a fun tinkering project that will keep me busy for a while. So many good bikes in the used market right now - it's a good time to be a rider! :D
Agree about the CB1100RS. I bought one this year…no match for my speed twin but has proper UJM feel. Do miss my Z900RS though 😢
I got the CB1100 EX, I think this one is much better looking. Great bike!
I prefer the CB1100EX, especially the 2016 black with spoked wheels. I like the panels to all match in colour. I had one. Was going to be my forever bike until a lady turned into me and wrote it off.
@@DNarcisooI agree, the EX looks better.
that CB1100-EX is the model to get - a magnificent bike. Beautiful and smooth engine and of course Honda quality. Very few came to the USA and you are right, that’s a rare and valuable bike. I was looking at a used one at reasonable price two years ago but the weight and feel of the big 4 engine just wasn’t right for me - I’m too used to the parallel twins.
The Bear 650 looks the best imo.
Except it’s the same engine and problems of all other 650s meaning terrible suspension and not great power to weight ratio
But,45hp for 220 kilos....
@@thodoris3790 the guerilla has almost the same HP numbers with 40 and much lighter and cheaper
I really want an Honda CB350, awesome motorcycle. Keep up the good work Bob.
that Honda - traction control with 20 HP? someones lost their mind
I know its just a sponsor - but those flying eyes glasses were insanely cool. Never seen them before until you demoed them.
Triumph's are top of the tree for retro's but the RE Bear 650 is my pick for such I lovely bike and a great price.
In india the Honda gb350s is called cb350 and there are 3 variants of it
CB350
H'ness CB350
Cb350 RS
Yo MOTOBOB, I always look forward to the retro video. Did not disappoint. 👍👍✌️❤️😎🇺🇸
Thanks for the support GM! 🍻
My picks of the bunch-
Royal Enfield Bear 650
Moto Guzzi V7 Stone Ten
Yamaha XSR900 (Powerbronze Cobra fairing would look tops)
Ducati Scrambler Full Throttle
The XSR in white metalflake is a great looking bike in person, the video clips Bob used are too jerky to do it justice. It sounds amazing also!
@@thomasneedham1512 White and red stripe? Yeah it's very classical looking. If I had the choice, I'm not sure I would go with the white metallic vs the other color option. Might be a hard decision however.
@ The surprise is that the White paint has depth and looks so very good, especially with the contrast of the wheels. I had just bought a GXRS 1000 GT+ but if I had stayed with a naked bike, the Yamaha was top of the list for looks.
@ It's pearlized and metallic paint, not a straight white non-metallic.
@ And is beautiful!
They all look great but most are way out of my price range. I'm liking the look/price point of the Classic 650 though.
Why no one is talking about kawasaki w800. It's the most authentic modern retro and is so barely mentioned in the media these days. Unfortunately we'll lose that model in few years due to euro restrictions
Same weight and about the same power as a RE Interceptor 650, My latest dealer couldn't unload a low mileage used model for over 17 months and $3000 USD in discounts from its original price. It is still there. Heavy, slow and uncomfortable means it is a hard sell.
I owned a 2021 W800 that I bought 2 years old at $6900. They do not sell. Most dealers get one and it sits for a year or two until a niche buyer, probably over 50 years old buys it at a hefty discount. It is an absolute beautiful bike, and authentic retro with analog gauges, wire wheels, air cooled, the unique bevel shaft OHC drive, 370 degree crank and even authentic Dunlop tire with center groove (that absolutely suck and all owners switch to better tires like Michelins (very limited selection. of the uncommon tire size). It’s got fantastic low end torque - can cruise comfortably in 5th gear (the top gear) at 25mpg and even accelerate acceptably without downshift. But the vibration is strong over 3500RPM and the bike feels heavy in handling. Once I demoed the RE 650 bikes I decided to switch. Those 650s equal the HP of the 800 but handle better and don’t have the heavy vibe. I chose the Shotgun 650 and absolutely love it. Happy to have alloy wheels and tubeless tires. Took a solid loss selling the W below expected (realistic) market value. No interest on the used market and after a few months just had to let it go.
I ordered the GB350 in Sweden. One of only like 5 coming. Can’t wait.
Very proud that Royal Enfield doing so well !
I own the Honda CB 350 H'ness that I ride during my annual winter habitats in Vietnam. A very pleasant ride that doesn't feel like much of a downgrade from my BMW R1250GS that I ride in Denmark and the rest of Europe during the rest of the year. The 350 is a brilliant bike for the conditions that prevail in Vietnam. I wouldn't want to ride it on a European motorway though because it lacks acceleration power. It's also deliciously noisy, something Honda designed to complete the retro impression. I even had a guy at a filling station in Vietnam refuse to sell me 95 octane petrol because he was duped and thought the bike was out of the 70s. He changed his mind when I pointed to the ABS ring and showed him the digital display
I always loved Moto Guzzi V7, but hated its front system (single disc brake and weak fork). Now, this new Sport edition, especially in that lime yellow colour, looks really really tempting!
Can you get us a list of the best selling models of all bikes for 2024? Seems near impossible to find that information.
both for cars and bikes i particularly love the style retro-futuristic. some of these looked so sweet.
Hey Triumph! You can't put that cheap dash on a bike and sell it for over 13,000 pounds.
They can if the rest of the bike costs $12,950
Excellent video! Thank you for showcasing the 2025 motorcycles.
Quite a lineup . Looks good for everyone.
I expected to see the new 2025 Fantic Caballero with the Minarelli motor in here, that bike would get me excited!
Great list. But if you're including multiple RE. You should also include the v9 from Guzzi. Great bike.
MOTOBOB in my hable, you are The Best
Forlornly watched another brilliant MotoB retro upload with no RD350LC in the list.
Oh for a return to those halcyon, glorious days in the 80’s-90’s…☹️
None of these are of interst, since I have a Yamaha SR 500, and love it!
Hi like your channel.
What about the new fantic cabellero 500 with new engine
And the 700 new colors??
The Honda, the Classic 650 and the XSR are all fantastic. The Bear will probably be the best seller here though. I do like that Bobber, but I'm hoping there's an upscaled GT Continental on the horizon with a fairing and 17 inch wheels! There's a Thruxton shaped hole to fill!
The Bear 650 has caught my eye and is really affordable too!
I can't wait to see the Royal Enfield Classic 650 here in the States!
Very informative channel, thank you, I subscribed! Would it be possible, if you list the specs of a model, to tell if cruise control is available? It's not important if it is stock or as an option... but the cruise control is important in a country where speed control is common and expensive, for those "moving to the playground" travels. And anyway, it's handy if the "moving" is long... so you don't have to stay focused all the time.
Overall the triumph speed twin , hands down stands the best among the retro motorcycles but it has to be a fact that the Royal Enfield bear 650 stands well for its appealing retro design and its price .... Just love how Royal Enfield is producing their motorcycles ❤️
Have to disagree. The massive rear wheel gap is just a mess and no twin rear shocks is unforgivable
Don’t think I’m the target market. There isn’t a single one of these I’d put in my garage.
Bob is a triumph ambassador for youtube
Bob is an ambassador for all the brands. He never says anything negative ... all the new models are always 'better' !. What you are really looking at is an 'infomercial'.
@zaphodbeeblebrox4574 exactly.full time youtuber.what to expect
...that's why he said my favourite....Moto Guzzi V7...... 😎😉
@@thodoris3790 There are other UA-camrs that are Royal Enfield ambassadors as well ….so many
The triumphs are great bikes. Aside from a few, we all already know the suspension sucks, and everyone has already expressed hate for the new screens
Thank you
W800 missing? Def one of the best!
To be a retro, you have to delete all the tech and the TFT display. A bonifide retro must have a separate analog tach and speedometer.
Guzzi V7 movie is taken in Italy, Gran Sasso mountain, one of the best roads we have, so called Little Tibet... just to say! ;)
Im going to miss the thruxton series.
Definitely Speed Twin 1200 for this category! But if not excluded old model years. CB1000R still my favorite.
vitpilen for me
This category of bikes is just booming lately, for me the one is Triumph Speed 1200 RS just lobe it, or maybe BMW R12 S
Vitpilen and Speed Twin 1200 and of course the BMW.
The new classic 650 looks absolutely stunning. If it rides well…
the bobber was great. the hot rod harley road ?
It would be terrific if the liquid cooled single could be made into a twin with twice the displacement.
full throttle if i could, i can't which is sad, but that's ok 🙂 the damn R12S though, man that is a cool looking machine - proper head turner
Wish you had a choice of black and alloy finish on the Guzzi and triumph engines, love the bmw R12s but at over 20 grand probably not in the cards. Thanks for the update moto bob
With the unsealed engines on the Enfield, that “lack of rust” or corrosion is only a couple of years away
178 kilo 350 single? What's it made from cast iron. I remember Suzuki gsx 250 twin 40 years ago and it was 150 kilos.
Re 350 classic weighs much more than
BMW for me, I grew up in the 70s lusting after a R90s
Anyone know where the bag is from in the thumbnail image of this video?
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Don't think I'd call most of those bikes 'Retro' .. just naked bikes. The only one I liked was the Moto Guzzi :)
Wow. You forgot the Kawasaki Z900rs! What’s up with that? Performance, quality, handling, and styling, it beats most of the bikes on your list. Furthermore, it’s the only retro with a beautiful and powerful Inline-4 engine like the original Z’s of the 70’s.
There is nothing new or updated on either of the Z900RS or the Z650RS….
However, the W230 is new…?
This video is about new and improved. This year the z900rs and z650rs are exactly the same.
Sooo, a new paint scheme is considered an update these days? That’s basically all that’s changed with the Triumph line (except Speed twin). Ducati Scramblers were updated in 2024. All they get for 2025 is a stripped down version and a dressed up version with Rizoma bling. Just saying.
The Enfields 650 are the most "authentic" in this "retro" segment. It's possible to service them with a screwdriver + pair of players, the power is JUST of what is expected from this type of bikes, and they do look not bad at all - not to mention the price. So I'd take a couple of different Enfields, rather than a fancy Ducati, Triumph, or other overpowered "retro" 🤷♂🤷♂ Why people bother to buy a fast bike without wind protection - riding fast, gathering insects on the visor - I can understand. These bikes give MORE riding pleasure, but there are also some downsides - bugs/wind/cold.... so a bike of 40 -50 Hp for ME is fine enough.
The husqvarna svartpilen 801 looks more retro and a lot better if you’re into the retro look.
constantly pushing the Triumph 400's makes me chuckle
Speed twin 1200 😎😎😎 best
I want that back light
Today you have so much to choose the beautiful bikes and all are great that you just dont know what to buy 🤷😄
If I was a younger man, I would sure like to have a Triumph Bobber.
650 Bear looks nice but man I want min 80hp on my retro. RE needs to up the power game for UK and European markets maybe produce cheap 800 900 or 1200cc engines...
Fantic Caballero 500 with Minarelli engine (45 hp, 150 weight)?
With possibly the exception of the R12 ,I think a bike shouldn’t be labled a retro if does not have spoked wheels and fins on the engine.
Can you ride thumper bikes on a carriageway or motorway without problems. New to this
Whatever happened to the triumph street cup???
Both Kawasaki Z650RS and (especially) Z900RS are missing…
Not really updated for this year, hence we skipped
Fair enough
No MV Augusta?
you always do a great job for us but when your videos are over we want to buy all of them ,so stop it Bob...lol...thanks again!
Indian scout 101 !!
Wish Honda could launch a LowSlung laid back Cruiser based on GB 350 something on the lines of RE Meteor/SuperMeteor ...
He likes the motobob
I’ll stick with my thruxton R 😂
What's funny?
Will we see many of the Husqvarna's though?
Bear 650. Want!!
Please Honda bring the GB350S to the US!
Please, Honda, give the bike more power. 20bhp is pathetic, I doubt it performs much better than a 125.
you forgot the z900rs which is still the most beautiful modern classic on the market both aesthetically and engine wise...
I’d love to know the real reason why the W800 isn’t available in the UK. It’s one of the best modern retros in the market if you’re in North America, Asia or Europe but for whatever reasons, not available in the UK. It can’t be due to emissions or noise as RE offers very similar air cooled bikes.
Indian should be on this list for sure.
XSR 900 🔥🔥 but no Z900RS?
forget digital clocks - especially on the Triumphs
Continental is the goat 💚
I like retro bikes , but where’s the full fairing ? 🤪😊👍👍👍
I figured the XSR900 GP would have rated highly in this list. Fantic also make some very cool retros in their caballero range.
Yamaha has not said they will sell the GP model in the US, which is a disappointing thing to hear as the base bike is pretty amazing and would be even more so with the GP kit on it.
It wasn't updated for 2025. I would assume what's why it was not mentioned on this list
The Honda and Trimph offers look nice. Great bikes for city fun. Royal Enfield has been launching nice design bikes but the reliability records are not good.
Ducati needs to make the Sport Classic Biposto again...people would buy them...
Vitpilen retro?
Bear 650 all day long!