Tenere 700 Decat - Weight Saved, Smoother Throttle, Sound & HP Gain?

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  • @otrkoln9623
    @otrkoln9623 Рік тому +4

    If you do NOT have a significant increase of power, especially in the mid range, your A/F ratio is not correct or you made some mistakes while installing it. Keep in mind that all these newer bikes run quite lean when comming from factory. Adding a complete open exhaust will make the mixture even leaner. And this might, if you do not adjust fuel, might also cause engine damages...

  • @kymcopyriot9776
    @kymcopyriot9776 Рік тому +3

    Thanks Johannes! Louder is better most of the time although covering long distances at constant throttle it can be annoying. But that’s why we wear earplugs, right? I will also add my vote in favour of a custom dyno tune. The lamda sensor doesn’t do the whole job. Dyno runs are expensive but the only way to go in my opinion. Looking at the various lean areas and smoothing it all out with extra fuel is a real education. And there’s no substitute for hard numbers rather than ‘feel’. Mind you, at the end of the day it’s not a race bike, so all this depends on your care factor.

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому

      Regarding a dyno run vs a piggy back - my knowledge is rather limited, but the fuel commander I have is supposed to be pretty advanced. It’s plugged into all sensors on the bike and uses the data from these to find the correct tune. I’m sure a dyno run is still much better though!

    • @JohnSmith-ef8nr
      @JohnSmith-ef8nr Рік тому

      ​@@JohannesDalenMC
      I had a remap, it makes no real difference.

  • @downbytheriver501
    @downbytheriver501 Рік тому +4

    Love the sound of my full HP corse exhaust system.

  • @whitedrguy6503
    @whitedrguy6503 Рік тому +5

    I think just about every bike I have owned I changed the muffler or full exhaust and all I ever got from it was maybe a little weight saving but definitely more noise.
    Now I just run the standard exhaust, as for weight saving, I don’t think it makes any difference at all, sure you may lose 5 Kg but is it noticeable ? Probably not, and as for the cost, exhaust systems are ridiculously expensive.
    I have also found that the noise level is okay up to a point then it just becomes annoying and tedious after a few hours on the road, that constant droning or booming noise drives me mad, around town or for short rides it is fine but after 1 or 2 hours on a trip I am wishing for a little more peace and quite.

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому +1

      Changing end cap is a no brainer in my book. That along with a lithium battery and you can save several KGs for not a lot of money, but headers are definitely not mandatory. I ‘only’ paid 200€ for these, so I’m happy, but going full titanium for three times the price is a bit overkill. I think 5kg is great, but if it’s noticeable is another discussion 😅

    • @whitedrguy6503
      @whitedrguy6503 Рік тому

      @@JohannesDalenMC 5 Kg on a 200+ bike makes no difference, 15 or 20 would be good but depending where the weight is removed from makes a difference.
      A bit like adding a centrestand for example, it adds 5 Kg to the bike but because the weight is so low it goes unnoticed, or adding or subtracting the weight of fuel from the T7 makes a noticeable difference, it still feels top heavy with a few litres in the tank but when it is full you know it.
      Weight saving itself is good but more important is where the weight is saved or added.
      The jury is still out with me on lithium batteries, for the sake of a little weight I still prefer the bike to start when I hit the button, lithium can still be a bit hit and miss on a cold morning. 😂😂😂😂

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    Good video :)

  • @JohnSmith-ef8nr
    @JohnSmith-ef8nr Рік тому

    You need to remove the baffle from the exhaust, its held in with one spotweld you can drill out, sounds awesome without it.

  • @glight5205
    @glight5205 Рік тому +1

    I have installed a full black widow exhaust on my Tenere, I noticed significant different sound, better tork but I think I've lost horse speed, my bike cannot go above 190km as it used to be but I do not need it tbh.

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому +1

      Above 190 🤣
      Thanks for sharing your experience. Better torque over top speed any day 😁

    • @simonmallia2051
      @simonmallia2051 Рік тому

      sounds like your bikes down graded

    • @Motovibes91
      @Motovibes91 Рік тому +1

      Did you also change the intake/ filter and flash the ecu?

    • @glight5205
      @glight5205 Рік тому

      @@Motovibes91 only DNA filter stage 2, I didn't touch the ecu

    • @glight5205
      @glight5205 Рік тому

      @@simonmallia2051 I wouldn't say that, because the tork has significantly increased. I will give it one more test once I put the new tires on it.

  • @joras18
    @joras18 Рік тому +1

    Hey brother, I’m thinking about doing a decat on my T7. Can you please link the O2 censor extension for me please? Also, how can I go about getting a tune and a power commander as well? Thank you in advance brother

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому +1

      Hey man!
      The O2 sensor cable is from Fueldongles in Spain (can’t link here on YT), but check with the manufacturer of the decat you go for first, they often supply the cable in the package.
      Getting a tune the proper way means taking your bike to a shop that does a dyno. A power commander is something you plug into the bike that changes the mapping. If you have a dyno shop nearby I’d recommend that. Hope this was helpful my friend 😊

  • @matthewallison6823
    @matthewallison6823 Рік тому

    maybe I was unlucky but my black widow decat put the check engine light on. puts the eu5 o2 sensor where the eu4 wS with the loom extension. my extension was not very good quality and I think water got in, that or moving the sensor further down made it freak out. ended up with the cat back on and a motoes skid plate.

  • @PatchedBandit
    @PatchedBandit Рік тому

    Thanks for the video. I have the HP corse can and midpipe but still with the OEM euro 5 headers... maybe I will do the same even though the weight saving was less than I expected.

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому +1

      It isn't significant, but the sound improvement definitely was!

  • @rykielkark
    @rykielkark 8 місяців тому

    Hi mate, what about the clearance between the exhaust and the swingarm? Does it touch if the rear shock is in full extension? Thnx in advance.

  • @MLeitao
    @MLeitao Рік тому

    To me the heat it's the worst thing, I've considered the the decat, but I'm afraid it will be to loud, like you said too much louder sometimes don't sound good, I don't even took out the dB killer from the muffler.
    I have the black widow brushed 300mm muffler, it's been a good surprise for what I've paid, I've seen Akrapovic leaking from the rivets and this one not a single leak.
    Edit, I've also did something similar with pvc, the test was done with a some industrial detergent bucket... After that I bought some pvc, but I use it under the oem wind shield with risers

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому +1

      I can imagine heat being an issue, not exactly the case up here.. I wouldn't call it obnoxiously loud at all, but slightly louder.

    • @MLeitao
      @MLeitao Рік тому

      @@JohannesDalenMC the T7 it's a good bike to go to the beach and avoid traffic... Today I already took a spin in shorts 😀
      But before I bought mine I had a Euro 4 version of a friend for a couple of weeks, and it looked more cooler, but I can't be shure, it was a long time ago, but it has some logic.

  • @sm400xr
    @sm400xr Рік тому

    Thanks again
    Is it called the rapid bike evo by dimsport? Exclusive for Yamaha Tenere?

  • @Dylan-vo6bw
    @Dylan-vo6bw Рік тому

    hey, does any header work with other slip ons? I have got a hp corse track short muffler, and want to order Akra headers

  • @runevikan
    @runevikan Рік тому

    Would be nice if you could comment on fuelconsumption on longer rides with the airfilter, decat and Rapid.

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому +1

      I'll see what I can do - ordered tickets for the boat from Norway to Germany five minutes ago for my trip down to the Pyrenees, will have plenty of time to look at the fuel range! 😅

    • @runevikan
      @runevikan Рік тому

      @@JohannesDalenMC Thanks, ride safe and have fun :)

  • @Gwiedert
    @Gwiedert Рік тому

    I know where you got that windscreen tip got from😜
    Nice upgrade! Working on a custom linkpipe and exhaust hanger currently.

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому +1

      You’ve inspired more than one mod on this bike 😁
      Nice, looking forward to seeing it, only custom is good enough for the mighty Guido! 🫡

    • @Gwiedert
      @Gwiedert Рік тому

      @@JohannesDalenMC Lol, I certainly don't have anything to back up that status..
      But glad it worked out for you too👍

  • @matthewallison6823
    @matthewallison6823 Рік тому

    I got a little screen too for the wind chop on my forhead, now it gets me in the throat 😂 and right where my bloody ears are on my head!

    • @jimistalione16
      @jimistalione16 6 місяців тому

      your ears are on your throat????????? :o

    • @matthewallison6823
      @matthewallison6823 6 місяців тому +1

      No, that's why there's an "and" in the sentence. 😂

  • @fingerscrossed2317
    @fingerscrossed2317 7 місяців тому +1

    How much cost for 1.5 kg ?
    You are crazy if you do that.
    Better invest some in suspension my opinion.

  • @sm400xr
    @sm400xr Рік тому

    Does the Tenere need a “Re Map” after removing the Cat headers? Thankyou

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому

      Good question, I don’t know enough to tell. I have a Dimsport power commander that automatically adjusts the fueling, so I don’t think I need a re map.

    • @sm400xr
      @sm400xr Рік тому

      Interesting, do you recommend the dimsport? I was going to get a dynojet commander instead

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому

      It’s too early for me to recommend it or not. At a later point I will remove it and try it back to back with stock - at that point I will be able to give a better answer 😊 I can report that my friend has a World Raid with the same Dimsport and is very happy though.

  • @cathodion
    @cathodion 10 місяців тому

    Where did you rear indicators go?

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  10 місяців тому

      They are there if you look closely, but I don't recommend those indicators at that spot, not visible at all from the rear..

  • @motonoob-i2d
    @motonoob-i2d 6 місяців тому

    Noice. I’m thinking about new headers/no cat to go with my Mivv Dakar

  • @danbrown3103
    @danbrown3103 7 місяців тому

    Yeah i know this channel. He gets an aftermarket one piece front fender and fork guard combo from somewhere.
    Its too heavy. I like the standard t7 low front guard.

  • @Krith220
    @Krith220 Рік тому

    Nice, some sound while riding would have been cool. Also do you plan on putting back the original headers with the cat before registration every year? I doubt decat is legal in most European countries?

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому +1

      Should have, but not sure how I would have recorded that 🥴
      The irony here is that Norway is the strictest country in the world with regulations and laws, but luckily we dont have yearly inspection of bikes. They have that in Sweden and Denmark, but not here 😁

  • @teekosk
    @teekosk Рік тому

    300€ fine in Finland if you decat your bike.. Plus you probably lose your plate so some extra cost re-register your bike after installing catalysator back… 😬

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому

      Yikes! 😅

    • @Roger_Gustafsson
      @Roger_Gustafsson Рік тому +1

      Shit, never ever heard anyone getting a fine for that in Sweden. Very common immediately getting rid of them especially on some Austrian bikes that comes with a toaster/grill from factory. 😂

  • @OSR_1
    @OSR_1 Рік тому

    👍🏽👍🏽 sounds good

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому

      CP2 engine is the best sounding engine there is 😉

    • @OSR_1
      @OSR_1 Рік тому

      @@JohannesDalenMC 😜 Ducati might have something to say about that haha

  • @TheWanderingGeezer
    @TheWanderingGeezer Рік тому

    The main reason to change exhaust is weight loss.

  • @MrQazy
    @MrQazy Рік тому

    I'd love to do that to my T7, but in Denmark if get cought with out the cat it's a 7000kr fine (~930 Euro) the FIRST time, it doubles from there on. 3rd time they take the license plate.

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому

      Probably best to obey the rules then, a decat doesn’t do that much difference.
      At the same time I’m a bit tired all these rules.

  • @simonmallia2051
    @simonmallia2051 Рік тому +1

    wast of time and money custom map it and feel a difference .... your bike is getting tuned using a dirt cheep lander sensor that by definition will result in a less than optimum tune.

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому

      Hmm, the Rapid bike evo plugs into every sensor on the bike. I'm no expert on this field, but I think it's considered to be pretty thorough. Do you have any experience with it?

    • @simonmallia2051
      @simonmallia2051 Рік тому

      ​@@JohannesDalenMC yes . and the Yamaha has mapping for gears not just closed loop and my bike was mapped on a dyno jet 200 i load ... at the bottom of this dyno is a box of lander sensors .. this is because as soon as there is a unexpected reading the lander sensor is switch for a brand new item . as its on a sliding scale of efficiency from day one also back to back a good tuner will always make safer power than a auto tune (face )

    • @Itisbp
      @Itisbp Рік тому +1

      *(lambda sensors)

  • @painsrides
    @painsrides Рік тому

    Doesn't seem like this decat was worth the cost & time of the "upgrade". No power gain, no improved throttle, increased noise and only 1.5kg lighter 🤔

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому

      I disagree my friend, 1.5 kg is quite good. The Black Widow pipes was around 200$, and I don’t think that is too bad 😁

    • @painsrides
      @painsrides Рік тому

      @@JohannesDalenMC All that matters is that you're happy with the change 👍 Its probably still too cool to tell but have you noticed less engine heat with the cat gone?

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому

      It’s still so cold here that I’d take the heat from the cat any day 😅 No I haven’t really, and I’ve never been bothered by the heat from the cat before either.

  • @Gorilladome4664
    @Gorilladome4664 Рік тому

    only just over 3lbs weight savings? thats not really worth it....

  • @rfk76
    @rfk76 Рік тому

    Hey there Johannes, great to see you again! I just watched this video and I am happy to see you still modifying your T7 (I like the custom windshield a lot!) :)
    After your upcoming trip to Spain, please share your honest reflections after riding a long distance with that loud exhaust.
    Reason I am asking is that I recently tried all possible combinations of db-killers to my Wings exhaust and finally decided to stay with the most silent setup... I liked the mean sound and the pops, but in the end going silently was more important - both for others around me, but also to my ears.
    Can't wait to hear your thoughts.
    Cheers and have an awesome trip 😄👊

    • @JohannesDalenMC
      @JohannesDalenMC  Рік тому +1

      Hey my dear friend, hope all is well 😊
      I will give you an update for sure. The 701 is louder than the T7, so going for the most silent option is probably the way to go for long term ear health.
      Thanks a lot Rafal 😊

  • @thorheimdal2235
    @thorheimdal2235 Рік тому

    👍🙂🙋‍♂️🇧🇻.