Arn Anderson knew how to talk he wasn’t screaming or yelling he just said what was going happen and why so ahead of his time same goes for Tully Blanchard
@@cristhiancamilogranadosleo8817 the only problem id see with Gino in the 4 Horsemen is who gets the NWA World title? Flair or Gino? Both were mirror images of each other with Charisma,intelligence in Promos,huge ego & both were big with the ladies along with great MIC skills. I dont see Gino being like Tully being #2 behind Flair,plus Gino had the major advantage because he brought more heat being a more hated heel than Flair. It wouldve been.fun to see. That's My view & My opinion.
Yep, debuted in 82. From mid south to Georgia to Southeast championship wrestling , and he debuted in mid Atlantic in early 85. Three years into his career he was already great!
I've said it before, but the thing about Arn was his demeanor. He wasn't some roided screaming asshole, he was more like your girlfriend's disapproving dad, waiting on the front porch after you've brought her home way too late on a Saturday night. Dunno about you, but that is WAY scarier than some Ultimate Warrior type douchebag.
I loved all the NWA belts from 1986-91: Big Gold, U.S. Heavyweight, TV (Red strap), and World Tags are all in my top 7. The other three are from WWF (Big Eagle, Hogan 86, and IC Oval from 1998-02)
Your comment was from 2 yes ago but I'm just now seeing it. I'm a East Tennessean and when the horsemen formed there was a 4 year period where Crockett NWA was more important than any other sports! It was more important than NFL, NBA, MLB! It's crazy how popular it was back then so I know what you are saying, I love going back and watching on UA-cam! Damn it was fun!!!
I remember seeing this on KDNL-30 back in the day. (I'm from St. Louis, too). I had just started watching wrestling. It was this promo that REALLY made me HATE Arn Anderson. He didn't come out an yell and scream. He was 100% confident that no one could take that TV belt from him. I appreciate it for what it is, heat to get me to buy a ticket now, but back in the day... Thanks for posting!
Yep! And it was always "Our Pleasure" to have them around. Gotta compliment them, though:Heels though they were, they added some real spice to NWA Wrestling back then. Some REAL spice!!!!!
This is a really great find. It definitely improves the historical record. JJ Dillon has been saying that he was with them when Arn first said the phrase and that it was off-the-cuff and not pre-planned. Not his fault, since he wasn't with Tully when this video was taken. Tully was still with the Perfect 10.
Although this one is the horses and not the Horsemen (as JJ was still a few months away from being hired by Tully Blanchard Enterprises Inc) and it was just a local promo for St Louis anyway (Cardinals on top of the world, and then they get Denkingered), the real deal was in a few months.
Thanks! I had always wondered what was the first show they said it in. I know legend has it that Arn said "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" before or in October 1985, but it wasn't on camera. This has the be the first show it was said in.
The last time there was beating that bad, you’d have to go back to the 4 horseman of the apocalypse. That was Arn’s quote that started it. When they beat down Thunderbolt Patterson.
JayEd KC it would be cool to have him, but with Charlotte locked into wwe, I don’t think he would come over...but depending on how his lawsuit against wwe goes, he may show up in AEW just to spite Vince.
great video from the best channel on utube. you hit this one out of the park. the 4 horseman were the good old days . thank you and keep up the good work
Arn and Tully are arguably the greatest tag team of all time. Ric is the greatest singles wrestler to ever live. Windham was one of the best U.S Champions of all time. These are facts.💯💯💯
@@dante666jt The Road Warriors were a great team. No question about it. But they couldn't wrestle. Their style was to bulldoze their opponents. Now The Horsemen were a Tag Team that actually wrestled. And they had great chemistry in the ring. You got Tully Blanchard with The Slingshot Suplex. And then there's Arn Anderson with that patented Spine Buster. What a combination.
What is eerie about Tully and Arn (or Arn and Tully) here is that these guys even resembled each other facially. And I hope that the legendary St. Louis Cardinals of MLB appreciated the masterful job that Tully Blanchard did putting them over as well as his Horsemen friends. Stan Musial was "The Man" almost before Ric Flair was born!⚾️🎤B.W.
When you watch old Tully,you can see where Shawn Michaels learned to be a Heel. Shawn talks like Tully and even used to hold the belt like that especially in his 93/94 Heel run
Same Hometown: San Antonio, Texas, where of course Tully Blanchard learned much about his craft early on in his dad Joe's legendary company Southwest Championship Wrestling.🤔🎤🐴💎🤼♂️B.W.
That's the NWA United States Heavyweight Champion with the Perfect 10 telling it like it is. I saw the Four Horsemen in action at Grand Rapids stadium arena and the civic center in Saginaw in the mid 80's. Tully vs. Ron Garvin, Flair vs. Rhodes, Flair vs. Garvin, AA vs. Rhodes, Ole and AA in tag action. That was the ticket I had to have, so from 1983 when GCW started to come up to Michigan thru 1988, those nights and matches were so much fun. Fond memories indeed of my favorite heels putting on a show.
Same here. And then when we finally got cable, I'd watch on Saturday morning and then again at 6:05pm on TBS Saturday night. It NWA Worldwide at 11am, WWF Superstars at noon, and World Championship Wrestling at 6:05. 4 hours of wrestling goodness every Saturday.
This was the first mention of the term 4 horsemen, you can see that Arn had that old time religion up bringing in Georgia. Tully as usual is a master on the mic, and I love the old US Heavy Weight belt he was holding.
If the actual Four horsemen of the Apocalypse and the four of them together video were ever found. That piece of history is beyond calculated value. Ya know probably more valuable than the film of Bruno over Buddy in 63 because with that one photos exist.
Man these were the good ol days!!! As big a fan as I am of the Horsemen, I really don't think they knew the long gevity of "The Horsemen" were going to have on wrestling. Man it's been AT LEAST 30 years I know, and Ric's quotes are STILL relevant today!!! Ask ANYBODY who was around back in those days....start a Flair quote, and someone else will say it with you or finish it!!🤣🤣 We don't don't have that kind of impact today. It's more athletic and gymnastic, but SOMETHING'S missing!! And I think it's in the booking and the writing...we can start there..🤷🏽♂️
Yeah, it's hard to say exactly when he said it. I've never seen any footage, but the story is that Arn made an off handed remark during an interview about "wreaking more havoc than the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse". The next week some fans at ringside had a poster saying 4 horsemen and were holding up 4 fingers. That footage of the fans made it to TV, then everyone started doing it, so they ran with it, and it took off!! Not sure how accurate that story is, but would love to see it if it's out there
Right after that interview Tony told Arn he thought that Arn had just come up with a name for their faction, after that the Horsemen were off and running. Often imitated, never duplicated Schiavone! WOOOO!
As a Kansas City native I had to chuckle when TB was talking about the Cardinals being on top of the world because the next day the Royals beat them in game seven of the 85 World Series... : )
As a Brewers fan who despises the Demonic St. Louis Cardinals for screwing the Brewers at least twice from winning the World Series, I'm glad the Royals beat them in 1985.
That really works very well all the way around. In 1981 in Kansas City Ric Flair defeated Dusty Rhodes for his very first NWA Championship by of course widespread controversy with Central States heels chiming in. In 1986 in St. Louis Rhodes dethroned Flair. A very short while later in 1986 in Kansas City Flair dethroned Rhodes when Tully Blanchard and J.J. Dillon attacked Rhodes. The kicker so to speak? On Thanksgiving Night 1983 at the very first Starrcade in Greensboro Ric Flair dethroned Kansas City's own Harley Race to recapture the Championship Flair first won in Kansas City only two years before!😂 And for the wiseacres it's Tommy Young to be worried about more than Don Denkinger.😏B.W.
And to think that some people dare to compare dx, nwo and so on to the Horsemen. They were good but not even close. Diamonds are 4ever...you know the rest
This is not the legendary Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse promo that was the birth of the Four Horsemen, because AA only said that they are the 4 horses that make things happen.
@@rscotta831 Arn said in an interview once about doing the promo on TV about how they were like the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse and then fans started with the Four Horsemen signs at arenas after that. It is a shame that the video of the apocolypse promo may no longer exist.
Arn never said that promo aired on TV. He and Flair did say after he said it, fans started bringing posters and holding up four fingers. Even tho no internet back then, big news still traveled fast. Plus the NWA visited places like the Omni and Greensboro every single month, so of course fans that were at previous shows would remember special events and things wrestlers said, even if they never aired.
As you know The Groundwork for this moment was laid out in storylines across both Georgia Championship Wrestling and Mid-Atlantic Wrestling to culminate in this moment. And this segment that you have sleected is about 1 Month before Starcade 1985 The Gathering where National Tag Team Champions Ole and Arn Anderson would defend The National Tag Team Titles against NWA United States Tag Team Champion Chief Wahoo McDaniel and Billy Jack Haynes.
Fans respected the Horsemen then. But, old school "kayfabe", made it taboo to cheer them. While the Horsemen personally were grateful, for fan support, they had to put the fans down, due to "kayfabe". Even when Vinny Mac verbally ended "kayfabe", fans still didn't act respectful to heels, publicly. All that changed, when the NWO came and Steve Austin, became "Stone Cold". Now, the Horsemen get the public respect, they always deserved.
More heat from the fans meant more $$$$. They didn't want public praise, they wanted packed houses, paying to see them. Vince took that away. They always had the fan's respect. This comment from someone who watched this era live, not in the South, but in PA, and stopped shortly after Vince killed it, in 1989. #kayfabeforever
Yes but at the time of this taping the Cardinals had a 3-2 series lead and they would get screwed that night by a bad call that pushed the series to game 7
@@danielveillonssportswrestl8102 Watching the original Horseman come together in 1985 and formulate into what it became over the next three years was pure gold. Flair, Blanchard, and AA were the best workers, the best talkers, the best competitors, the best of making the faces look good, and the best at carrying out a devious plot and executing it that the fans wanted to kill them...and then they would brag about it. 1985 to 1988 with the Four Horseman in JCP set and raised the bar that other versions of that group, The NWO, or DX couldn't match. It looked authentic and real back then, it wasn't manufactured, and those three made you believe everything they were talking about. The other versions of the Horsemen just fell flat with the other members they brought in, and there were many.
@@artmeddaugh6669 You're forgetting about Ole Anderson and JJ Dillon! They were instigators and braggarts! Ole was a sadist! The combination of the five of them was dangerous!
MrJon76 Your absolutely right about Ole and JJ, my point was that Flair, Tully, and Arn were the three constants of in-ring talent among the group for three solid years. My favorite was the original version because even though Ole was older, he was a believable, mean, nasty, and dirty SOB. The 4 of them wreaked havoc on Rhodes, Magnum, and the rest of the babyfaces in JCP.
The good ol days for wrestling. I miss those times. I saw the rock n roll express fight the andersons in Macon. The main event that night was magnum T.A. and Nikita koloff. I wish it wasn't so stupid nowadays. Miss baby doll too.
NWA Central States. Although The Aptermags did refer to Top Ten Standings of the St. Louis office at the particular time. As were Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, and San Francisco referred to in The very early Seventies.B.W.
What's Blanchard, maybe 5-7? He is the same height as Baby Doll here. Just a small dude to believe he could hang with the big boys...but he was a damn good heel.
I think the World Series either had yet to be played or the Cards had the lead at this point. The Royals did come back from being down 3-1 in that series.
Nick Gangone they were down 3-1 in the ALCS vs the Blue Jays and we were down 3-1 in the World Series... Amazing how we would’t go down! It was almost like fate as their rookie Vince Coleman went down in a fluke accident.. He was hit by the tarp and that kept him out of the whole World Series.., Had he played i’m not so sure we would’ve won!
![Four Horsemen Interview [1986-12-27]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/yWC-TBfTC1U/mqdefault.jpg)
Arn Anderson knew how to talk he wasn’t screaming or yelling he just said what was going happen and why so ahead of his time same goes for Tully Blanchard
And thats the bottom line 20 yrs before stone cold, loved the old promos
For every Hogan, Macho Man, Piper, and Flair, you need an Arn, Tully, Jake the Snake, and Dusty
He talks a good game
Double A always gave the best promos.
Double A's promos are rated Double A by fans because one A isn't good enough. Lol
Double J, Jeff Jarrett is better.
@@Jetup24Mehh
The best promos in the business
im thinking he owns the rights to the 4 horsemen name not Wwe as a trademark.. that what i hear
Tully was a great heel.
Tully was one of the greatest heels ever.
battlestarmarc Tully was my Favorite Horseman. He was one of the best in the ring
Slingshot suplex!
In no disrespect to Tully,but Gino Hernandez was a more hated heel. Gino is what you wouldve called the PERFECT Horseman! That's My opinion.
@@horsemanhammer1348 very respectable.
@@cristhiancamilogranadosleo8817 the only problem id see with Gino in the 4 Horsemen is who gets the NWA World title? Flair or Gino? Both were mirror images of each other with Charisma,intelligence in Promos,huge ego & both were big with the ladies along with great MIC skills. I dont see Gino being like Tully being #2 behind Flair,plus Gino had the major advantage because he brought more heat being a more hated heel than Flair. It wouldve been.fun to see. That's My view & My opinion.
the original gangsters of pro wrestling the four horseman
TRUE INDEED.
Tully was so cool and Baby Doll looking good here!
"It's been your pleasure." Great heel promo by one of the best.
This is how you do promos,talk about the town,your ability, and how you're going to stay on top.
The belts back then were so much better! I also loved how each belt had a great match to go with it.
Orgeeba Harvin wresting back then was the best!
Tully's US belt was ugly though lol That TV belt was classic
They were the real deal way better looking belts apposed to them fucking kids toys wwe calls belts
@@sirtavion20 for me, the NWA US Title was the best.
@@chads8720 I agree. I always wanted to be the NWA TV Champ as a kid🤣🤣🤣
Arn Anderson was only in wrestling for three years when this was taped...
Yes three years starting in early 1982. Arn wrestled for JCP from late 1984 - late 1988.
Yep, debuted in 82. From mid south to Georgia to Southeast championship wrestling , and he debuted in mid Atlantic in early 85. Three years into his career he was already great!
@@rscotta831 It was 1985 when Arn came to JCP. He was still in Southeastern in 1985. He was part of the Stud Stable in 1985.
I've said it before, but the thing about Arn was his demeanor. He wasn't some roided screaming asshole, he was more like your girlfriend's disapproving dad, waiting on the front porch after you've brought her home way too late on a Saturday night. Dunno about you, but that is WAY scarier than some Ultimate Warrior type douchebag.
Wow. Arn truly was a head of his time. A true man's man.
Man, I absolutely love that NWA TV belt! One of my all-time favorite belts even though that design was used for several other championships.
Mine too. The red leather one that matched the red on the face plate! They did a black leather one too; just not as cool.
@@randallfloyd2982 Yeah, I prefer the red design over the black one also, Sir.
I'd loved it too but for some reason I was more partial to the national heavyweight version with the yellow paint.
I loved all the NWA belts from 1986-91: Big Gold, U.S. Heavyweight, TV (Red strap), and World Tags are all in my top 7. The other three are from WWF (Big Eagle, Hogan 86, and IC Oval from 1998-02)
I miss these local promos.
These were all taped in Jim crocketts garage
My childhood got a lot better after those 4 fingers got held up for the 1st time.
I'm THE best they ever was and will be from Knoxville Tennessee
Really? So sorry to hear about that lol
The four heels it was okay to root for!
Your comment was from 2 yes ago but I'm just now seeing it. I'm a East Tennessean and when the horsemen formed there was a 4 year period where Crockett NWA was more important than any other sports! It was more important than NFL, NBA, MLB! It's crazy how popular it was back then so I know what you are saying, I love going back and watching on UA-cam! Damn it was fun!!!
I remember seeing this on KDNL-30 back in the day. (I'm from St. Louis, too). I had just started watching wrestling. It was this promo that REALLY made me HATE Arn Anderson. He didn't come out an yell and scream. He was 100% confident that no one could take that TV belt from him. I appreciate it for what it is, heat to get me to buy a ticket now, but back in the day... Thanks for posting!
I live in st louis I miss the good old days
Always loved to hear Arn do promos. One of the best
Yep! And it was always "Our Pleasure" to have them around.
Gotta compliment them, though:Heels though they were, they added some real spice to NWA Wrestling back then.
Some REAL spice!!!!!
@@ronaldshank7589 Facts
This is a really great find. It definitely improves the historical record. JJ Dillon has been saying that he was with them when Arn first said the phrase and that it was off-the-cuff and not pre-planned. Not his fault, since he wasn't with Tully when this video was taken. Tully was still with the Perfect 10.
Although this one is the horses and not the Horsemen (as JJ was still a few months away from being hired by Tully Blanchard Enterprises Inc) and it was just a local promo for St Louis anyway (Cardinals on top of the world, and then they get Denkingered), the real deal was in a few months.
These guys are my childhood wrestling heroes. Thanks AEW for bringing back to highlight
Awesome relic, I can't find the original when the actual 4 were together because of TV time.
That is a nice job locating this...I always remember hearing it for the first time the Saturday before Starrcade 85 on TBS.
Thanks! I had always wondered what was the first show they said it in. I know legend has it that Arn said "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" before or in October 1985, but it wasn't on camera. This has the be the first show it was said in.
@@rscotta831 this ain't nothing but a house show promo
What’s your point? House show promos were extremely common in the early to mid 80s. Everyone did them, even Flair.
@@rscotta831 this is tagged as being the promo where Anderson names the horsemen. It's not
"Horses", "Horsemen" Again, what's your point?
The last time there was beating that bad, you’d have to go back to the 4 horseman of the apocalypse.
That was Arn’s quote that started it. When they beat down Thunderbolt Patterson.
LostDutchman is there any footage of that actual statement? I’d love to see it if anyone has it!
rodsr13 I don’t think there was. We’d have it on UA-cam I’m sure.
Best I can recall, it was at the Omni around this time or maybe January, 1986. The name wasn't part of any script, but was used ad hoc and took off.
Saint Louis guy here. This was when wrasslin' was wrasslin', if you will--Dusty Rhodes
This is why I love AEW...having both AA and TULLY in the same promotion again...such FEELS!!!
OscillatorCollective wonder how long before the Naitch shows up! WOOOO
OscillatorCollective really???? Wow that’s awesome I hope Nature Boy goes too
JayEd KC it would be cool to have him, but with Charlotte locked into wwe, I don’t think he would come over...but depending on how his lawsuit against wwe goes, he may show up in AEW just to spite Vince.
Really?
Too bad Flair can’t go to AEW.
great video from the best channel on utube. you hit this one out of the park. the 4 horseman were the good old days . thank you and keep up the good work
You're welcome! WHOOOOOOOOO!!
Arn and Tully are arguably the greatest tag team of all time. Ric is the greatest singles wrestler to ever live. Windham was one of the best U.S Champions of all time. These are facts.💯💯💯
Windham wasn't in the original, that's Ole Anderson with the tag title with Arm, Tully was the US champion
@@andrewft31 I knew that Windham was just better than Ole
Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard of The Four Horsemen are The Greatest and The Very Best Tag Team in The History of Professional Wrestling
@@jimmieperry3418 no that would be the Road Warriors
@@dante666jt The Road Warriors were a great team. No question about it. But they couldn't wrestle. Their style was to bulldoze their opponents. Now The Horsemen were a Tag Team that actually wrestled. And they had great chemistry in the ring. You got Tully Blanchard with The Slingshot Suplex. And then there's Arn Anderson with that patented Spine Buster. What a combination.
And now Ole is one with eternity
Just stumbled on to it. When these 4 horses come to town.
What is eerie about Tully and Arn (or Arn and Tully) here is that these guys even resembled each other facially. And I hope that the legendary St. Louis Cardinals of MLB appreciated the masterful job that Tully Blanchard did putting them over as well as his Horsemen friends. Stan Musial was "The Man" almost before Ric Flair was born!⚾️🎤B.W.
Tully putting over the Cardinals would be for not because the following day the Royals would win Game 7 11-0 after a controversial game 6.
Arn always gave the best promos!!!
When your talking about the horsemen your talking about the best!!!
Watching these old AA promos, I can see his influence on Steve Austin in his calmer moments on the mic
When you watch old Tully,you can see where Shawn Michaels learned to be a Heel. Shawn talks like Tully and even used to hold the belt like that especially in his 93/94 Heel run
Same Hometown: San Antonio, Texas, where of course Tully Blanchard learned much about his craft early on in his dad Joe's legendary company Southwest Championship Wrestling.🤔🎤🐴💎🤼♂️B.W.
Micheals also copied Gino Hernandez.
That's the NWA United States Heavyweight Champion with the Perfect 10 telling it like it is. I saw the Four Horsemen in action at Grand Rapids stadium arena and the civic center in Saginaw in the mid 80's. Tully vs. Ron Garvin, Flair vs. Rhodes, Flair vs. Garvin, AA vs. Rhodes, Ole and AA in tag action. That was the ticket I had to have, so from 1983 when GCW started to come up to Michigan thru 1988, those nights and matches were so much fun. Fond memories indeed of my favorite heels putting on a show.
I'm jealous! 😀
You where so lucky to go see the horsemen and glad you had a blast fun thanks for sharing and showing people love wrestling too💪👍
That was great wrestling. That's when wrestling was great.
Rev Wolf I agree! That was a very, very special time to be a wrestling fan.
i loved the 4 horseman. glued to the set every saturday am
Those guys could have been on the cover of fortune 500 magazine
Same here. And then when we finally got cable, I'd watch on Saturday morning and then again at 6:05pm on TBS Saturday night. It NWA Worldwide at 11am, WWF Superstars at noon, and World Championship Wrestling at 6:05. 4 hours of wrestling goodness every Saturday.
Arn had such good promos and he should of been NWA/WCW US Heavyweight Champion.
When championships actually mattered!
My brother and I saw every NWA card (about every three months) from 85 to mid 87. Simply the best ever!
This was the first mention of the term 4 horsemen, you can see that Arn had that old time religion up bringing in Georgia. Tully as usual is a master on the mic, and I love the old US Heavy Weight belt he was holding.
R.I.P Ole Anderson
They were like, "Arn didn't mention the city, Tully. You gotta mention the city!"
Brings back some good memories as a kid.
Simply put, the greatest collection of Wrestlers in the history of the sport. Wooooooooooo!!!!
I grew up watching the four horsemen
I have a feeling the very first spot they mention the 4H will be a Hidden Gem on the WWE Network, if they ever find it.
I’ve combed the TV archives from this era. This is the very first time they mention it on air.
1985 was The greatest year for Wrestling
Arn Anderson wore glasses which is trending again in 2019.
N w a the very best
Man I love those belts from the 80s
Arn was the voice of the Horseman. He was the structure of that great organization. Horseman was the original. God was baby doll hot❤❤
Tully was probably the first cool heel in wrestling .
The original four horsemen was the best.
If the actual Four horsemen of the Apocalypse and the four of them together video were ever found. That piece of history is beyond calculated value. Ya know probably more valuable than the film of Bruno over Buddy in 63 because with that one photos exist.
Photos are about the length of time it took Bruno to win in 48 seconds. Lol
I love the television Championship belt!
Man these were the good ol days!!! As big a fan as I am of the Horsemen, I really don't think they knew the long gevity of "The Horsemen" were going to have on wrestling. Man it's been AT LEAST 30 years I know, and Ric's quotes are STILL relevant today!!!
Ask ANYBODY who was around back in those days....start a Flair quote, and someone else will say it with you or finish it!!🤣🤣 We don't don't have that kind of impact today. It's more athletic and gymnastic, but SOMETHING'S missing!! And I think it's in the booking and the writing...we can start there..🤷🏽♂️
I think Austin was inspired by Anderson in his promo delivery style.
Telly Blanchard and Arn Anderson are my favorite Tag Team of All Time
Arn always looked like he was in his mid 40s
This crew of man made me want to be a horseman for life
36 years later. . . and the 3 main Horsemen are still a thing in wrestling.
JCP headed up the best in wrestling 💪
Yeah, it's hard to say exactly when he said it. I've never seen any footage, but the story is that Arn made an off handed remark during an interview about "wreaking more havoc than the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse". The next week some fans at ringside had a poster saying 4 horsemen and were holding up 4 fingers. That footage of the fans made it to TV, then everyone started doing it, so they ran with it, and it took off!! Not sure how accurate that story is, but would love to see it if it's out there
That's what I thhought this was when I saw the title. I'm dying to see that clip. I'm so disapointed this isn't it
I have seen it on UA-cam and matter of fact I cam remember watching it on tv when it happened.
Leo Getz I think what you have stated is pretty accurate.
Right after that interview Tony told Arn he thought that Arn had just come up with a name for their faction, after that the Horsemen were off and running. Often imitated, never duplicated Schiavone! WOOOO!
Its accurate & it's also explained on The History of The 4 Horsemen DVD that WWE released years ago.
If this is the actual date the horsemen were born thats amazing because this was the day of my 5th birthday
Haha and this was my wedding day
RIP Ole.
As a Kansas City native I had to chuckle when TB was talking about the Cardinals being on top of the world because the next day the Royals beat them in game seven of the 85 World Series... : )
Those damn Royals! Had to mess things up for the Cardinals!
As a Brewers fan who despises the Demonic St. Louis Cardinals for screwing the Brewers at least twice from winning the World Series, I'm glad the Royals beat them in 1985.
@@gregorytipton6352 And just think as a Cardinals fan I picked the Brewers to win the Wildcard Tuesday lol.
That really works very well all the way around. In 1981 in Kansas City Ric Flair defeated Dusty Rhodes for his very first NWA Championship by of course widespread controversy with Central States heels chiming in. In 1986 in St. Louis Rhodes dethroned Flair. A very short while later in 1986 in Kansas City Flair dethroned Rhodes when Tully Blanchard and J.J. Dillon attacked Rhodes. The kicker so to speak? On Thanksgiving Night 1983 at the very first Starrcade in Greensboro Ric Flair dethroned Kansas City's own Harley Race to recapture the Championship Flair first won in Kansas City only two years before!😂 And for the wiseacres it's Tommy Young to be worried about more than Don Denkinger.😏B.W.
Now that's a promo !
God, I wish pro wrestling would go back to this.
One of the greatest talkers ever!
The 4 Horse's !! Haha
Hey you make mistakes too. Don’t worry it was Arn who named the group
And to think that some people dare to compare dx, nwo and so on to the Horsemen. They were good but not even close. Diamonds are 4ever...you know the rest
This is not the legendary Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse promo that was the birth of the Four Horsemen, because AA only said that they are the 4 horses that make things happen.
Again, the promo you reference doesn’t exist. It was likely said at a house show with no cameras.
@@rscotta831 Arn said in an interview once about doing the promo on TV about how they were like the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse and then fans started with the Four Horsemen signs at arenas after that. It is a shame that the video of the apocolypse promo may no longer exist.
Arn never said that promo aired on TV. He and Flair did say after he said it, fans started bringing posters and holding up four fingers. Even tho no internet back then, big news still traveled fast. Plus the NWA visited places like the Omni and Greensboro every single month, so of course fans that were at previous shows would remember special events and things wrestlers said, even if they never aired.
Arn started with the 4 horses and Tully closed with the 4 Horseman! The rest is history.
Ohhh...Baby Doll....
When your talking about the horsemen your talking about the best!! If only wrestling could be so good again.
This when wrestling was wrestling. Today stuff is just crap
When Professional Wrestling was the best and Good for business. Never will there be another age where true professionals reigned supreme.
Baby doll 💯
I was in the third grade when this was broadcast.
As you know The Groundwork for this moment was laid out in storylines across both Georgia Championship Wrestling and Mid-Atlantic Wrestling to culminate in this moment. And this segment that you have sleected is about 1 Month before Starcade 1985 The Gathering where National Tag Team Champions Ole and Arn Anderson would defend The National Tag Team Titles against NWA United States Tag Team Champion Chief Wahoo McDaniel and Billy Jack Haynes.
Fans respected the Horsemen then. But, old school "kayfabe", made it taboo to cheer them. While the Horsemen personally were grateful, for fan support, they had to put the fans down, due to "kayfabe". Even when Vinny Mac verbally ended "kayfabe", fans still didn't act respectful to heels, publicly. All that changed, when the NWO came and Steve Austin, became "Stone Cold". Now, the Horsemen get the public respect, they always deserved.
More heat from the fans meant more $$$$. They didn't want public praise, they wanted packed houses, paying to see them. Vince took that away. They always had the fan's respect. This comment from someone who watched this era live, not in the South, but in PA, and stopped shortly after Vince killed it, in 1989. #kayfabeforever
Learn to love it cause its the best thing goin today WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Arn one of the greatest talkers of all time. It's been your pleasure
I see where Ric Flair got his material from
If billy could create a network with all this back catalog then that would be awesome. I think they’d get a ton of subscribers
The Cardinals lost to the 1985 world series to the royals
Yes but at the time of this taping the Cardinals had a 3-2 series lead and they would get screwed that night by a bad call that pushed the series to game 7
Arn is 27 years old here
When championships matters you see how they carried them with honor not draped over the shoulder
the four horsemen the greatest wrestling team of all time. thats when wrestling was great. woooooooooooo.
Arn is the king of the mic
The group WE LOVED TO HATE!
The group I loved to Love! "We are the best, we are the Horsemen".
I was born four years after this, and my memory of watching the Four Horseman is actually with Pillman Sr. and Benoit as memories of the Group.
@@danielveillonssportswrestl8102 Watching the original Horseman come together in 1985 and formulate into what it became over the next three years was pure gold. Flair, Blanchard, and AA were the best workers, the best talkers, the best competitors, the best of making the faces look good, and the best at carrying out a devious plot and executing it that the fans wanted to kill them...and then they would brag about it. 1985 to 1988 with the Four Horseman in JCP set and raised the bar that other versions of that group, The NWO, or DX couldn't match. It looked authentic and real back then, it wasn't manufactured, and those three made you believe everything they were talking about. The other versions of the Horsemen just fell flat with the other members they brought in, and there were many.
@@artmeddaugh6669 You're forgetting about Ole Anderson and JJ Dillon! They were instigators and braggarts! Ole was a sadist! The combination of the five of them was dangerous!
MrJon76 Your absolutely right about Ole and JJ, my point was that Flair, Tully, and Arn were the three constants of in-ring talent among the group for three solid years. My favorite was the original version because even though Ole was older, he was a believable, mean, nasty, and dirty SOB. The 4 of them wreaked havoc on Rhodes, Magnum, and the rest of the babyfaces in JCP.
Don Denkinger was clearly not a fan of the Horsemen.
The good ol days for wrestling. I miss those times. I saw the rock n roll express fight the andersons in Macon. The main event that night was magnum T.A. and Nikita koloff. I wish it wasn't so stupid nowadays. Miss baby doll too.
Four horsemen AWESOME always🥳🤩😈👿
What's causing all of this?
WHOOOOOOOOO!!
Intensified beef products!
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I know Arn and Flair did face turns but what about Tully? As far as I can remember, he was always a heel.
Tully was once a face when he began in 1975. He turned heel in 1978 and never looked back.
@@rscotta831 Thanks. It was before my time then. I just can't imagine Tully doing a promo as a face.
This was actually a promo for the St Louis territory
I said that. And I got shouted down
NWA Central States. Although The Aptermags did refer to Top Ten Standings of the St. Louis office at the particular time. As were Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, and San Francisco referred to in The very early Seventies.B.W.
Damn.
This was a while ago, huh?
Every time I hear arn anderson talk I get hungry for burgers and donuts 😂😂 but he definitely was a great wrestler
And still is a great talker. Guess that means more 🍔 and 🍩
@@ForcesofRandomness 😂
What's Blanchard, maybe 5-7? He is the same height as Baby Doll here. Just a small dude to believe he could hang with the big boys...but he was a damn good heel.
5’10”, same height as Baby Doll. He looked smaller because Baby Doll was tall for a woman.
If memory serves me correctly, the KC Royals knocked the Cardinals off the 'top of the world' in 1985.
HawklordLI yes sir
I think the World Series either had yet to be played or the Cards had the lead at this point. The Royals did come back from being down 3-1 in that series.
Lol Damn Royals!!
@@nickgangone9541 Yes they did!
Nick Gangone they were down 3-1 in the ALCS vs the Blue Jays and we were down 3-1 in the World Series... Amazing how we would’t go down! It was almost like fate as their rookie Vince Coleman went down in a fluke accident.. He was hit by the tarp and that kept him out of the whole World Series.., Had he played i’m not so sure we would’ve won!
Awesome AA da 4
1:30!! Wow I remember how great those cardinals were!!!