Problems with Wizard Dashing (YOMI Hustle)

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  • Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
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    0:00 The Ground Speed Problem
    0:55 Velocity vs IASA
    1:51 Friction
    2:08 When Hover Friction doesn't work
    2:22 Velocity vs Friction
    4:12 Lowering Dash Speed
    5:05 Closing
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 40

  • @ivysly
    @ivysly 9 місяців тому +83

    I definitely didn't know about this lol. unfortunately just lowering wizard's dash speed could have other ramifications (14 frame dash suddenly becomes worse) so fixing this is tricky... i can also see reasons why you would want to have a 15 frame dash that is the same speed as a 14 frame one (for instance, if you expect a slow free-cancelled move, or you want extra distance on a backdash read, or you want to IASA manipulate to land projectiles which wizards love to do), so it's not totally useless to 15f dash, i guess? but thank you for bringing this to light lol. i'll be thinking about how to tackle this

    • @YomiLearn
      @YomiLearn  9 місяців тому +26

      I'm happy enough that you'll think about it at all.

    • @danvevoooo
      @danvevoooo 9 місяців тому

      hi ivy

    • @ivysly
      @ivysly 9 місяців тому +7

      after thinking about this for a little while it dawned on me that the slider was never intended to be a *speed* slider... that's why it says "Distance". I must have already thought of something like this happening - and it technically works as intended. at full distance, you'll go farther, but not necessarily faster...

    • @YomiLearn
      @YomiLearn  9 місяців тому +2

      @@ivysly given the nature of how friction works, you'd go farther using the 14 frame dash and applying hover on your next action, assuming its an action that doesn't have a set friction, reset velocity, or apply velocity the opposite direction. Which is most actions.
      In that sense, 15 frame dash could be considered slower than 14.

    • @ivysly
      @ivysly 9 місяців тому +8

      you're right, but distance *overall* and distance *per turn* are different things and serve different utility. idk i'll talk more with the wizard players and see what they think

  • @Sans-ih2el
    @Sans-ih2el 8 місяців тому +39

    Yomi Hustle players will do astrophysics just to figure out the optimal dash strength for their character

  • @_tybpxbzn_1042
    @_tybpxbzn_1042 9 місяців тому +16

    woe algorithm boost upon thee

  • @glopsy1137
    @glopsy1137 9 місяців тому +20

    I remember seeing you talking about this in the discord server
    Glad to see you figured it all out and hopefully its fixed if need be

  • @user-rv9oz7hd1i
    @user-rv9oz7hd1i 9 місяців тому +7

    "Hustle man! Teach me how to HUSTLE."
    But the Hustle man didn't answer,
    HE JUST.
    KEPT.
    HUSTLING!

  • @darkener3210
    @darkener3210 9 місяців тому +19

    Woah, that darkener guy managed to scale up a few sprites?
    Thats crazy

    • @YomiLearn
      @YomiLearn  9 місяців тому +3

      Both of you guys are doing this

    • @darkener3210
      @darkener3210 9 місяців тому +6

      @@YomiLearn I have no idea what your talking about

    • @Matt-tt7wb
      @Matt-tt7wb 9 місяців тому

      @@darkener3210 I've been in search of yomi hustle animations for a while and seeing as you the one who scaled them up like this, do you still have those scaled versions? If so could you link them? I can't find these anywhere😭

  • @davidpuralocura
    @davidpuralocura 9 місяців тому +7

    hes back yeeeeey
    another one i didnt know, time to never 100 dash with wiz untill its changed xd

    • @YomiLearn
      @YomiLearn  9 місяців тому

      My hope is that Ivy sees this and makes an adjustment =D

  • @Glimpsed
    @Glimpsed 9 місяців тому +5

    best yomih videos around

  • @ctag07
    @ctag07 9 місяців тому +12

    Man I wonder who that ctag guy is, he seems pretty cool
    Also great video about the topic, it'd be awesome if ivy saw this video and fixed it

    • @mcdonaldsbutter
      @mcdonaldsbutter 9 місяців тому +2

      You should talk to him sometimes, he's a pretty cool guy.

    • @YomiLearn
      @YomiLearn  9 місяців тому +2

      Im thinking he'll see this

    • @_tybpxbzn_1042
      @_tybpxbzn_1042 9 місяців тому

      i never heard of anyone named ctag.
      catgrass however...

  • @dangdangdang27
    @dangdangdang27 9 місяців тому +3

    engagement

  • @Matt-tt7wb
    @Matt-tt7wb 9 місяців тому +3

    I cant join the discord rn but could you link the action icons and attack animations used for this. No matter how hard i look i can never find all characters animations

    • @YomiLearn
      @YomiLearn  9 місяців тому +1

      The versions for this video were enlarged which was done for me. The ones I have are much smaller. It'd be a lot easier to give you the action icons if you were in the server since I don't have anything setup to link to.

  • @nephillen0
    @nephillen0 9 місяців тому +2

    i wonder how many games were severely affected by this issue, couldnt imagine it was a lot of games

    • @YomiLearn
      @YomiLearn  9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah. It's pretty minor really

  • @alexuelmen932
    @alexuelmen932 9 місяців тому +3

    MATH

  • @mayspark9109
    @mayspark9109 9 місяців тому +2

    Love me some math

  • @THY403
    @THY403 9 місяців тому +2

    mfw 1 speed above ninja on back dash GRR how dare they

  • @thebookless3381
    @thebookless3381 9 місяців тому +1

    Wait so you want a wizard nerf?

    • @YomiLearn
      @YomiLearn  9 місяців тому +1

      A microscopic nerf to movement? Sure

  • @cnarfrat1911
    @cnarfrat1911 8 місяців тому +1

    good i hate wiz give em more bad stuff