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I think of the hundred or so videos on tractors I’ve seen yours are always the best. I feel with you I’m getting an honest unbiased opinion. Great knowledge and a big help. I even called you once and got some great advice. Thanks for all you do for us.
Last year I bought a L3560LE over a 3R. My reasoning was you can put a LA805 loader on a 3560. It has a lift capacity of 1700 lbs, if I remember right the John Deere was closer to 1200 lbs. The 6 range HST plus is also awesome. The Kubota fuel tanks are below the tractor, no lifting cans over the hood. The big bonus for the L3560 is the Limited Edition drops the price by almost 3k.
The 2 speed HST would be a deal killer for me on any of the Deere. I rarely use High on my Kubota, with medium being the most used, and low being great for heavy pushing/pulling. Great video as always Courtney!
I have a two speed hst, in a sub compact you would be surprised how rarely I wish for a medium range. High for light loader work, mowing and lighter snow removal, low for earth work and heavy loader work. On the farm the L series kubota we have almost always stays in mid range aside from driving out to the field, and low range for dirt work, rarely ever use high, same concept. I guess you just get used to what you have per unit.
Im with you there. I use all three ranges on my b2630 regularly. I wouldnt go without any of them. I operated a 2 series not long ago. I cant remember exactly what it was. I think 2025. I was not impressed compared to my b2630. The two range trans was not ideal, the operator station was small and the bucket control was very poor.
Great video. Based on what you said and my personal experience (1300+ hour seat time with Kubota L-series), the 3038 must be popular because of the strength of the JD name and paint color. Between the non-removeable loader, the 2 range hydro, the proprietary quick-attach and the 2 pedal transmission, the JD is a non-starter for me. I grew up in a sea of John Deere real "farm" tractors and the iconic green/yellow would look great on my farm, but my Kubota L3901HST is much more capable. And YES, I love the treadle.....the JD 2 pedal tranny is awkward for me!!
The whole "proprietary quick attach" is a dumb argument at this point. On the smaller tractors it is much better than the ssqa without question. Anybody that sells front attachments makes and sells the john deere style. Everything else us on point tho
Prefer the treadle, prefer SSQA, prefer a cab on a 2 series size so I’m in a Kubota. Grew up on Green, currently on Orange and will be for the foreseeable future. Don’t think you can go wrong with either, it’s all about preference buy what you prefer
Great comparison that explains a lot of questions on what is what between the two brands as far as series goes. I would add one more level of comparison that helped me make the decision on Kubota L3902. That was the dealer network. Within an hour of me there are 3 dealers for each manufacturer. All 3 JD dealers are the same company while all 3 of the Kubotas are individually owned. After a bad experience with that JD dealer and no other options I wanted someone who had to worry about customer service. So, before I looked at anything on tractors I looked at dealer network. This was also driven by coming from a Mahindra with basically no support network in my area.
Pretty good comparison. When I was looking at JD vs Kubota vs others, I choose the 4066R for a couple of reasons, 1: Kubota Australia are still only offering the L5740(bit out of date now). 2: the 4R is available here with EH 3point Control and EH Joystick, 3: Front PTO and 3point are a factory fit option vs Kubota's aftermarket solution 4: most Importantly the Dealer was alot better, the local JD dealer had been in business since the 70's with a team that had been with them since the beginning in some instances with a full workshop, parts, and field service crew vs the local Kubota dealer who has been in business since 2015 and one mechanic covering off both field service/ workshop and a sales guy that also worked the parts counter who doesn't have a great reputation.
I also had a Kabota dealer with a bad reputation , but a couple of good ones a good ways off . The JD is great . Although one further away not so good . So that was part of my decision to buy a 4044m . Honestly if that deal didn't come along just at the right time I would've liked a a 4066r or the L series limited better . Except for a little worry about maneuvering in some thick stuff I have to do where I was worried about the cab .
I really enjoy your videos, great comparison. Being "old school", I really love my 2021 JD 3035D. Yep. Gear shift. If course, my JD lawnmower is hydro, so I do see the advantages. I used to work in a JD plant and can vouch for the sheer determination they have for quality. Paint, finish, heavy-dutiness sold me on them. On my farm, the tractor gets used a lot and I appreciate all of your videos, especially about attachments. Keep up the good work, man!
Hey thanks for the video. I ordered a kabota bx23s last November and it's finally being delivered tomorrow. I was a little torn between it and the 1025r. I ended up going with the kabota mainly do to price. The kabota was about $23k and the 1025r was at 28k. Plus I was able to get 84 month 0% financing. Also kabotas loader accepts universal quick connect skidsteer attachments. Just my 2 cents worth.
When these guys compare the Kubota "BX" Line to the JD 1025R...... They ALWAYS never compare them on price..... as You stated, the JD 1025R w/hoe costs $28K Compared to the Kubota BX23s costs $23K that is a whole lot of difference in price!!!! You made a wise decision buying the BX23s If these guys are going to compare compact tractors, they need to put the JD 1025R up against the Kubota B2301...... and then lets see witch one comes out on top !
I have a 2024 JD 2032r and it's great. The 2 pedal hydro is what makes the JD better than the 1 treadle pedal 'Bota, IMO. I also really like the looks of the Massey's! JD dealer is 6 miles away and no MF dealers even close. JD's do hold their value well when selling or trading. Keep that in mind before deciding.
I know at least 10 people with several thousand hours on small Kubota tractors mowers etc. with almost zero issues. I know at least five people that purchased small John Deere tractors and had problems with them ontop of being completely unhappy with their purchase. That being said I would and have been a Kubota guy with zero regrets to date👍. I’m sure someone else has a different experience I myself honestly wouldn’t consider a John Deere under 100 horsepower, their Chinese cheap built with bad quality control
I looked at a new 3025e when shopping for tractors. I really wanted to like it, it was a handsome little tractor but was easily out classed by the Kubota L2501 and Kioti Ck2610. The 2 speed hst, aluminum trans housing, proprietary attachments, no fuel gauge on dash, the basic riding mower style sprung seat, loader controls on loader, exposed cast frame through deck etc was a deal breaker. It also had the lowest lift capacities and was the most expensive of the three. The Kioti is what we ended up buying
I really appreciate the effort you put into these videos Courtney . For those of us who are coming back into the tractor thing after many years , it's so helpful to be able to find answers .
Wow what a video, I'm exhausted after viewing this one. You did a great job and really know your tractors. I always enjoy the videos that you do, thanks.
Great video, like usual. I'm also glad you did the bonus round because i am in the market for a utility tractor for hay work. The only thing i do not like on the Kubota compacts with hydro is the treadle, just like you. I am 6'3", and i think that is part of it. My knee ends up sticking up in the air. I have been happy with my L3901 with a gear drive transmission, even with loader work. A treadle would be a deal breaker for me.
💥 A really nice comparison here. The Kubota BX needs some key improvements! I just don’t see that happening anytime soon. Maybe I’ll go green next time. *Keep on tractoring!*
My decision process is: 1. listing what capabilities I need, including distance to dealera and comfort/convenience. 2. Finding models that fit without major drawbacks. 3. Comparing prices. Cheers
Interesting comparisons to be sure. So many choices just between two brands! I have a feeling most people that hate the treadle pedal have never even tried it or hardly spent any extended time using one. Personally I have spent a good amount of time on a twin pedal and it was easy to use. But I’ll take the treadle pedal over the twin. I can’t imagine anything being more natural and easier than simply rocking your ankle forward or backward. I’m certain that exact same motion happens when one walks. I found it is easier to finesse small movements changing direction with the treadle. Of course there will be someone who spent years with the treadle and hated it.. ok. Obviously it boils down to personal preference. If the treadle pedal was that bad, Kubota would have canned it years ago.
I own a kubota bx 23 s. I find the quick attachments very quick and easy to switch out. I would like the more lift capacity which the deere has but I have owned my kubota for 2 years and it seems to be very well made and reliable
I really enjoy all your videos. I am still loving my 5115M thanks again. She now has almost 300 hours on her. I have had all the Deere sizes/series 1-5 series . I do agree the 2025R is pretty much a 1.5 series or in my opinion as to why I own a 2025R today, is that it is really the perfect 1025R. Everything I disliked about my 1025R was pretty much resolved with the 2025R. Originally I had traded my 1025R for a 2038R. Which at that time I also had a 3039R which I later traded that 3039R to you for the 4720 you have now. The whole issue with the large frame 2 series is that it is the same physical size as a 3R, the 2038R has a wheelbase that is only 1/2 shorter then a 3039R. The 3Rs were so much more capable then the large frame 2R. Plus the 2038R really would not fit anywhere I could not get my 3R into, so I lost my compact size and didn't gain all that much capability over the 1R . Later I found that the 2025R really solved all the complaints I had with both the 1025R and the 2038R. I now with the 2025R have the smaller size of the 1 series yet I have ground clearance that is sorry missing from the 1R. The 2025R has a much smoother ride better ergonomics , it is more stable and has far better ground clearance then the 1025R. IMO, the 2025R is the perfect 1 series tractor, or Subcompact tractor. Which Deere does class the 2025R as a subcompact same as the 1025R. I agree if your needing something more in line with the large frame 2Rs capability the 2038R is a good machine, might even be better to look at the 3R family which does get the 3 range hydro trans and is the same physical size as the 2038R, with even more lift capacity . I am not sure, but I have always had the feeling these manufactures like to keep the water a little muddy when it comes to comparison of one brands models to another, meaning they don't quite line up perfectly with each other on purpose. That way one can say they are better then the other for this or that reason.
Oh how I miss the 5115! This is a perfect case of there being the right tractor for everyone. That said, you did more trial and error than most, but you've now got a ton of experience to share because of it. Great info, say hi to Big Green for me!
@@GoodWorksTractors Will do. Who knows maybe someday I will sell her back to you. Big maybe on that one, since I do love both my 5115Ms. Something you might like if your still keeping your 4720, I fell in love with that LSS system on the 5115M that I recently added LSS to my 4066R along with a self leveling loader that I really missed after trading that 4720 back to you since it had the MSL. LSS is just an incredible feature. I know your like me, and love having all the features, LSS is one feature that if you have never experienced it, you should really try it. The 5115M I bought from you came with it my other 5115M does not have it, and the difference between them is night and day when it comes to loader work, also field work with the loader still on, the LSS really smooths out the ride a lot.
You hit the nail on the head. I left a comment earlier kind of saying what you were saying but not as in depth. I also had a 1025r and traded up to a 2025r. I completely agree that it might be a little ambitious to call it a 2 series but I feel like it’s the perfect tractor. It’s like a bigger slightly more capable 1025r yet still being relatively compact. I think people overlook it because it kind of settles through the cracks but I think it’s just about perfect.
Great video Courtney, I'm sure you'll ruffle some feathers but great info to get out there. I compared the 3e and standard L when I was tractor shopping and came to the same conclusion as you. Additional data points I found were important were lift height/capacity of the loader, material choice of the transmission and front axle size/construction
As a Gen2 2025R owner, for reference, here is a list of differences between the machine and a 1025R. Differences only between the 2025R and 1025R include: - Increased ground clearance - Increased loader lift capacity - Increased 3 pt lift capacity - Higher maximum ground speed in Low and High - Increased hydraulic performance - More spacious-feeling (for me) driver cockpit area - Increased overall length - Large difference in base weight - Completely different larger wheels and tires which give the tractor very different performance characteristics on different terrain types. - Tires, when filled if desired, add additional hundreds of pounds of weight difference which further affects stability and performance at work I think I got most everything. I chose the 2025R after almost purchasing a 1025 and could not be happier. It may or may not "beat" the comparable Kubota, but it seems to justify its premium over the 1025R, in my opinion. Hopefully that is helpful.
Started with compacts with kioti. Both were fantastic hard working and dependable. Then went to Kubota. Both of those were great engine wise but trans and hydraulics stalled easily and never got used to the treadle peddle. Then went to John Deere. 2305 first and now a 1025r. No issues with the 2305. 1025r has/had a few issues (hydraulic leaks, position control failure and seat suspension breakage to name a few. Pretty sure next and maybe last will be a Kioti again.
I have a l3560 and I never use my heel to run in reverse. I just move my foot back and press down with my toe. For me it works the same as it would on a JD, but instead of moving my foot right or left it is forwards or back. This makes backing up really comfortable if I turn and look over my right shoulder, because my foot is next to the seat and not stretched out.
Interesting video. You're probably right about the 2025R vs B2601 for value for money. Personally I've got a Gen 2 2025R TLB on a small hobby farm with lots of tight spaces and a bigger tractor wouldn't have suited the property. It is my very first tractor and the capabilities of the 1025R would have suited my needs, but the ground clearance alone was a big problem as we have overgrown fields and other rough terrain that I need that clearance for. The 2025R is just a little bit bigger, taller, heavier and more capable. I can fill the bucket to the brim with rocks or gravel and lift it effortlessly and I think most people overestimate how much weight they really need to lift when looking at specs. In the real world the loader lift capacity has never been a problem for me. The price difference between the 1025R and the 2025R was only around $3000 Canadian while the difference between the 1025R and 2032R was closer to $12,000 CAD, or $8,000 more than the 2025R. Also the nearest Kubota dealer is 3 hours away and I have a Deere dealer within walking distance of my house so it was a big deciding factor even though it's a very extreme case. Anyway, always listen to your customers needs because the 2025R may be the perfect machine for them if they just need a little bit more over a 1025R because the small price difference is worth it in my opinion.
The one thing that you did not mention in the JD 4series vs MX and even the 4R vs Grand L was the Hitch Assist on the Heavy Duty models and the R series. Extremely nice when hooking up a heavy implement on uneven ground, not having to go back and forth to the operator station.
Thanks for your informative video’s I appreciate your help and advice. I am a proud owner of a new MX6000 open station and have a backhoe on order. I am considering having one or two remotes added when the backhoe is installed. I may get a 12 foot batwing in the future. I wanted your opinion as I don’t know if there’s different types for different applications , if so what would you recommend. I just thought since they will have to run hydraulics to the backhoe it would be a good time for the remotes to be installed. Thanks for any information on this .
The Kubota hydraulic system is low volume, low pressure. All remotes,&backhoe hydraulic flow is further restricted through the loader control valve ( quit good), but restrictive plumbing---too small of hoses & fittings --- They cheeped out! My Kubota Mx5200 got revamped (by me) ,with bigger hoses& fittings for a 40% improvement. Now the backhoe is just slow, previously it was almost uncappable. When it was "New" it was set up for amitures, with only two &1/2 functions at once for the backhoe & was burning the fluids, things got HOT after 45 minutes. The backhoe All ways had power just NO Speed. Just don't like screaming 54hp for just 13hp of hydraulic power--they NEED A BIGGER Pump. Happy safe tractoring Sir.
I had a 1025r and currently have a 2025r. I don’t regret my decision. It is more expensive but I feel it’s almost justified. You do get a bigger rearend with the 2025r along with a slightly bigger hydro pump. There are other aspects to a tractor that people forget. The 2025r weighs almost 400 pounds more than a 1025r and is about 7” longer. I noticed the extra weight digging into a pile of gravel. And JD fit and Finnish is so much better…my buddy has a Kubota b2601…20k dollar tractor and kubota can’t put a digital hour meter on?? My seat is nicer and comes with a bucket level indicator. The kubota doesn’t. The 2025r also has all the same quick disconnect stuff as the 1025r.
The 2025 r is a tiney turd for a old homeowner with a small yard. I have a mower for the grass and a mx 6000 for a tractor big difference folks and very small difference in price
MSL has really become less appealing to me since putting a lot of time on my 4720 on the property. I'm not sure I'd get it again, at least not for out there. Didn't think about the 3d
I’d have to agree with everything in this video. Iv only owned kubota’s. Currently own a bx25d and a mx6000. always wanted a John Deere. The 1025r stomps the BX, John Deere makes such a nice tractor, I just can’t get past the fact of the 2 range transmission. I looked at the 4052r, extremely nice tractor! Kubota was just a little cheaper and the dealership was closer and I already had a couple skid steer attachments. I will own a John Deere one day
Have you driven a John Deere? I rarely use high on my 1023E, low is fast enough. Working in my garden or when mowing I just leave it in low. A few times when I was digging dirt on side of my property to fill in a low spot on the other side I was shifting into high to run over the low spot but the tractor plenty of torque in high to creep if you need to and it takes just a second to shift back to low to load the bucket.
I been trying to buy a used JD 2032r with 1040 hr. FEL W/mower deck. Well taken care of Salesman said, It does look to be in Good condition. Asking 23900.00 Turned down 19G from me.. :( Thanks for your video here. Appreciate it!
Would you consider doing a 3 way comparison between John Deere, Kubota, and Kioti? I am looking at that compact level of the John Deere 2032R/2038R Vs Kubota LX3310 VS kioti ck3510se hst. I would really like to hear your review of the Kioti to try and determine which is the best tractor. If you have already done this review, I apologize for asking again, just point me to the link.
I just bought a kubota M4D-071. I wanted to stay less than 75hp to avoid DEF. Also contending were the M62 TLB and Grand L6060. The things that won me over were the 2900lb loader capacity (middle of the pack, more than L6060, less than M62) and the enclosed large cab with buddy seat (M4 is the only one with a buddy seat, the L6060 has enclosed cab only, M62 has no cab). Delivery is next week. Use is property maintenance including heavy EA wicked grapple (600lbs) for use in the woods, limited tilling, hogging, snow removal. Will be adding top and tilt kit, +4 additional rear hydraulics.
Alot of people don't know how important position control is but it's a must have in my opinion glad you mentioned that kubota is a great tractor if I was buying one it would be a model with that function
Good comparisons. I’m a subcompact guy and JD owner. In my opinion the Kubota doesn’t come close to the JD in that category as far as ease of use and capacities except maybe 3 pt lift. Have a couple of friends with orange subs and have used them. They don’t come close especially ease of use. And in my opinion JD beats Kubota as far as looks goes in all categories especially the subs. JD subs look much more substantial. I’m tall and feel funny on the Kubota subs.
When I was looking at the 3E and standard L series I went in leaning heavily toward John Deere. I wanted that green paint bad. However, when I started comparing features, design, capabilities, and construction I was very disappointed with what I found with the 3E. I would have to go to the 3R and a higher cost even to come close to match the L. I went with a L3301 Kubota and I am very pleased with it. Great video.
Nicely done! Glad you incorporated the last set of utilities. I was leaning towards the Kubota. The jump seat aspect just sold me as I hadn’t considered the kids coming along.
The fact that Deere is horrible on the larger tractor spectrum for treating farmers and just outsourced their smaller tractors to overseas makes me hate the whole brand. That 'Deere' pride is akin to Apple and Tesla fandom. Such a shame to see a once king of that industry just get compalcent and enjoy the good easy coasting times corporately from being the supreme king once.
The treadle direction control was a total deal breaker for me. I borrowed my neighbors small Kubota to spread a load of shell rock on my drive way. I am 70 and my leg got very tired holding my foot up on it. When I went to buy my own small tractor I did not even consider getting a Kubota, I love my new JD 1023E. The two speed transmission is good enough. Most of the time I only need low. The only time I use high is when I am driving from one end of my property to the other. Shifting to high is easy and only takes a second.
One thing I like about the pedals on the kubota is when I’m doing stuff with the back I don’t have to look forward to make sure I don’t hit the wrong pedal like I would on the John Deere so I can keep looking at the implements and make sure nothing happens
I bought my 3901 over a year ago. It’s the manual, 4x4, bar tires, rear remotes with a loader and backhoe. I literally use it multiple times a week. Having a backhoe is awesome. I do not regret getting it. I got a pretty good deal on the tractor and backhoe. I own 6 acres and have a good sized pond between my neighbor and my property.
I’ve owned everything from a L series, gen 1 2025r, b2601… the green tractors proprietary implements just piss me off… and their smaller tractors aren’t happy with a backhoe on them. Biggest complaint on Kubotas is that their lineup was confusing to figure out… I will keep my little bx(grass friendly garden tractor) and my L series( is much tougher than the B series) for dragging trees and working hard
Love the cut to the chase review. I'm still not 100% sure which I want. Kinda want something American. I honestly don't care where they build them, I want to support American companies. I'm in Tennessee and the Kubota is a lot cheaper. They have a dealer close by in Georgia that offers packages that even includes a trailer.
Hello there, I am in the middle of a purchase of either a JD 4044R or a Kubota 4600HD. I have reviewed the documentation and both have good attributes and some less impressive features. What would you recommend?
I recently did a comparison of the MX5400 Vs the Deere 4044m in two local dealerships; feature wise they were similar enough, loader and 3 point capability is near identical. But for the same dollars where I am you get the 55hp MX or the 44hp Deere; and when you start with 20% less PTO hp for the same nickel that green paint just isn’t good enough to make up the difference. To get into the same HP in a Deere I was looking at a 20% price premium, so I went with the orange one. No regrets so far, although I’ve only got about 1 hr of machine time on yet.
I own a JD 4052M and lately I’m very disappointed not with the tractor but in general with JD service. Every time you need an attachment I feel they are doing me a favor. If you need service ( I own several JD PRODUCTS) they take your machine, and later realize it takes 8 weeks to get a part. They can easily leave the machine w you, order the part and, when arrives, work on what is necessary. Is there the same feeling around?? Is Kubota service better?? I do believe that service has to be a great part of the decision…
I looked at the JD 1025 and the Kubota BX23S. Both were impressive but final decision was the Kubota. I was much more comfortable with the Kubota dealership and the pricing on the Kubota was much better. As someone mentioned green paint must be expensive! Keep up the great videos!!
I have a B 3350. I like the HP but hate the regeneration. I find when I turn around to face rear I most often hit the steering height adjustment lever…the placement is hazardous. One issue Kubota has note changed is the placement of the battery ground which is outside on the lower front frame. If there is a lot of rain and after the winter the threads become rusted breaking the circuit. Placement inside the hood would be better. The tractor feels tipsy on a hill due to its higher center of gravity as compared to my previous B 3029.
Nice comparison on all the tractors. I guess my JD 3320 is too old to be included in this group. If I was to upgrade anything on it I would add a couple more auxiliary functions to the rear. I can run the backhoe but other than that it's a 1 trick pony. Do you know if it's possible to add aftermarket auxiliary hydraulic ports?
@@marlondeere3039R Yes! So far at close to 1700 hours all I've had to replace is a fan belt and a battery. This is not a garage queen either. Move trees with it. Remove 3' diameter stumps and roots. With 20 acres of trees and creek this little tractor shines! Best purchase I have ever made.
@@raymondmcdonald7085 wish I wouldn't of traded. 52 hours on new one. It does have a couple of things I like better but that is it. It's just made cheaper. Been back to dealer once needs to go again.
Good reviews. I do think it makes a difference how you get the tractor configured and how you plan to use it. It is most definitely a point in the LX3310's favor that it has an option for a cab, but if you don't get it with a cab does it still win? The drive over mower deck isn't just for the 1 series John Deere's. The 2's and 3's have them as well. If you don't plan on using the MMM then it isn't a point for JD, if you do then it is. When I can afford it I would really like to step up from the 1025R and am trying to decide between the LX 3310 and the 2032R/2038R. A point for me to consider that may not apply to everyone is that since I already have a 1025R I can keep my pallet forks, stump bucket and grapple if I stay with JD, if I got the Kubota I would have to buy all those again.
@@GoodWorksTractors Yeah, I've been subscribed and watching your videos for a few years now. I mostly just wanted to comment to add my two cents to comment section. There is usually lots of good points brought up by your viewers. Thanks for the great content.
I have run bigger Kubota tractors ( M120 ) and had a Kubota zero turn mower - both seemed really good, although the loader arms on the M120 were disappointing - they bent far too easily. I recently had a 2010 Case 35 Farmall and that was a great little tractor but found myself wanting more out of a compact size tractor. I just ( literally yesterday ) bought a used JDeere 4720 with 1500 hours on it. I think that the 4720 will be the right fit for what I want it to do - mainly snow removal in the winter and a complement machine to my skidsteer for repairing and building gravel roads and right of ways.
You most definitely can order a buddy seat for a 5075E. Instructional seat, right on build page. If you are handy enough with part numbers you can get the 3rd function and rear wiper too :D
@@GoodWorksTractors yes this is for current model year. I was split between a 4066 and 5075. Had the 5075 loaded and my dealer pulling his hair out but was able to add rear wiper (nuts its not a factory option) and 3rd function. Seat was factory option. Ended up with the 4066R as it was just a better size fit and nicer finish. The cab size is great on the 5075E though. Only thing I made the dealer change was a nearly impossible to find JD rear windshield relocation kit for the 4066 that actually makes it work worth a 💩
Despite being a big fan of the 1025R I really feel once you leave the subcompact range there is no comparison. I just feel you get a lot more for the money with Kubota. I wouldn't even consider a 2032R/2038R when for less money I could get a standard L which is a far more capable tractor. I know one is considered economy and the other deluxe but I just couldn't justify it. If for some reason I was comparing the 2032 and the LX3310 it would again be a no brainer for the 3 range transmission. Things may tip back towards the Deere once you get to the 4 series and above but I have no experience there so I can't really comment on it. All that said I don't think any tractors from either brand are bad (now that Kubota dropped the 3350). It's all about what's important to you.
Does John Deere offer the Stall Guard feature that Kubota offers on the Grand series? I didn't think it would be something that I would use, but teaching my wife to use the tractor and brushing up my own skills, the Stall Guard has been a nice feature.
Deere invented that idea with LoadMatch. It won’t allow the engine to stall when doing any work except PTO work (you hit a stump while mowing for example).
That loader comes off pretty easily I see, but I don't have to get off the seat of my bx23s to unhook the hydraulics. And it's also really easy to take off. The kubota also has the manifold and its one latch to disconnect 4 lines. I think I saw in one of your videos that the mid mount mower won't go on and off without first removing the FEL on the 1025r? Can anyone confirm?
@@garyh.8082 because it's used from time to time. Just like the mid mount mower. With SSQA I just take off my bucket and never have problems. Is that true of the JD? Not to mention I lift the front of the tractor up and it's easier the get the mower under the tractor.
I have had multiple BX's with puddles under the single point connections and loader joysticks off the new generation. I've replaced parts on multiple loader quick park systems too. I remove the mower deck and install it with the loader on all the time (on the 1025r). So, didn't hear that from me.
@@GoodWorksTractors I have heard that from others that the hydraulic manifolds leak. I have been fine with mine so far. Glad to hear that wasn't true of the FEL and MMM.
@@Sventy11 Understood, but the reason I take my front end loader off which is easy to do, is cuz the swing rate is allows me to get the tighter places versus having it on. That bucket sticks out quite away so they can do some serious damage if you're not careful.
Excellent assessment Courtney. I believe it was fairly done. Because of the stiff competition that each presents to the other these types of comparisons will sway one way and then the other. Both are at the top of the compact & sub compact market so it is hard to say your going to be a looser one way or another. With Kubota coming out the winner in the long run every time.... LOL,,, Yea I'm Orange........
@@GoodWorksTractors This time around... That is exactly what I meant by they will push each other back and forth where each one has an edge at a certain time but then the other will up it's game and it will swing back. That is what good competition does for any company. Because of that you really won't go wrong no matter which you buy. I'm still orange though.
You forgot to mention the Deere tractors turn sharper in every class. Also, the 4R has an economy PTO, self leveling loader and the drivetrain is much more heavy duty (planetary final drive). Hydraulic flow is also higher on every JD mode vs Kubota.
I've never had a 4r with ePTO. Turning radius really only matters to me on a tractor I'm mowing with, JD does win there. Kubota's loader control makes it very easy to do 2 functions at one. I am undecided on MSL. Thanks for watching!
It’s an option that’s been available since 2011. I have several hundred hours on a 4520 with it. Full 540 PTO at 1800rpm. Works great for rototilling and mowing. Turning radius is huge when working in tight areas; especially doing loader work. MSL is great, and the smaller Deere loaders with it aren’t perfect, but they can lift way more than the competition.
@@Formulabruce Haha, I hear ya. However, a small parking lot is still a parking lot. Not a driveway. I've had just about every modern model in my small parking lot at my shop. The only way I can think of to get a real significant difference in turning radius is by going smaller. You could call the flat area at the top of my driveway at home a small parking lot I suppose. In that case, the 1025r still isn't close to nimble enough to turn around easily in my drive even though it has a tigher turning radius than the BX. Nothing beat the X739 AWS I had for my drive.
@@mrdeereford Yeah, I'm sure it's nice, but my point was just that ePTO is not popular, I've had many 4 Series machines and never had it on there. I liked MSL at my shop for moving pallets. I wish I didn't have it out at my property. That's why I'm undecided on it.
It's a lot of data and fun comparing these... It would be good for another video to group tractors by how they're best used next... For example, "Small homestead/landscaper machines where flexibility with weight and smaller frame size is best", "Middle farm and ranch machines heavy enough for ground work/round bales", "Big farm machines with the heavy weight and heavy price tag to go with it".
I had a B2650 and recently upgraded to a 3028R, mostly for the MSL loader, ease of connecting the backhoe and extra HP in a similar size. I miss the M range for sure, but autothrottle helps. One thing you didn’t mention on the Grand L are two unique options: hydraulic SSQA and hydraulic thumb for the backhoe. I’m not sure those are available on any other compact tractor of that size.
Good video overall. I am curious why on the utility tractor comparison you used the 5e series instead of 5m since the 5m is much more popular and does offer buddy seats plus several other features that the 5e doesn't since the 5e is the cheap version.
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I think of the hundred or so videos on tractors I’ve seen yours are always the best. I feel with you I’m getting an honest unbiased opinion. Great knowledge and a big help. I even called you once and got some great advice.
Thanks for all you do for us.
Thanks for the nice comment and for watching along!
Last year I bought a L3560LE over a 3R. My reasoning was you can put a LA805 loader on a 3560. It has a lift capacity of 1700 lbs, if I remember right the John Deere was closer to 1200 lbs. The 6 range HST plus is also awesome. The Kubota fuel tanks are below the tractor, no lifting cans over the hood. The big bonus for the L3560 is the Limited Edition drops the price by almost 3k.
The 2 speed HST would be a deal killer for me on any of the Deere. I rarely use High on my Kubota, with medium being the most used, and low being great for heavy pushing/pulling. Great video as always Courtney!
I have a two speed hst, in a sub compact you would be surprised how rarely I wish for a medium range. High for light loader work, mowing and lighter snow removal, low for earth work and heavy loader work.
On the farm the L series kubota we have almost always stays in mid range aside from driving out to the field, and low range for dirt work, rarely ever use high, same concept. I guess you just get used to what you have per unit.
I was just on my 1025r wishing I had the Medium range 🤣
@@GoodWorksTractors it's probably one of those things you don't miss until you don't have it available...lol
Im with you there. I use all three ranges on my b2630 regularly. I wouldnt go without any of them. I operated a 2 series not long ago. I cant remember exactly what it was. I think 2025. I was not impressed compared to my b2630. The two range trans was not ideal, the operator station was small and the bucket control was very poor.
Great video. Based on what you said and my personal experience (1300+ hour seat time with Kubota L-series), the 3038 must be popular because of the strength of the JD name and paint color. Between the non-removeable loader, the 2 range hydro, the proprietary quick-attach and the 2 pedal transmission, the JD is a non-starter for me. I grew up in a sea of John Deere real "farm" tractors and the iconic green/yellow would look great on my farm, but my Kubota L3901HST is much more capable. And YES, I love the treadle.....the JD 2 pedal tranny is awkward for me!!
Good stuff, hard to argue!
The whole "proprietary quick attach" is a dumb argument at this point. On the smaller tractors it is much better than the ssqa without question.
Anybody that sells front attachments makes and sells the john deere style.
Everything else us on point tho
@@Will-tm5bj Yeah, proprietary is a non-starter. I made a video about it specifically. ua-cam.com/video/kTCOf4bp47o/v-deo.html
Prefer the treadle, prefer SSQA, prefer a cab on a 2 series size so I’m in a Kubota. Grew up on Green, currently on Orange and will be for the foreseeable future. Don’t think you can go wrong with either, it’s all about preference buy what you prefer
The orange apple for me. Kubota. Yes…!
Love the new series of videos! So much info coming at you! Great job thank you!
Thank you sir!
Great comparison that explains a lot of questions on what is what between the two brands as far as series goes. I would add one more level of comparison that helped me make the decision on Kubota L3902. That was the dealer network. Within an hour of me there are 3 dealers for each manufacturer. All 3 JD dealers are the same company while all 3 of the Kubotas are individually owned. After a bad experience with that JD dealer and no other options I wanted someone who had to worry about customer service. So, before I looked at anything on tractors I looked at dealer network. This was also driven by coming from a Mahindra with basically no support network in my area.
Great comparison video Courtney!
Pretty good comparison. When I was looking at JD vs Kubota vs others, I choose the 4066R for a couple of reasons, 1: Kubota Australia are still only offering the L5740(bit out of date now). 2: the 4R is available here with EH 3point Control and EH Joystick, 3: Front PTO and 3point are a factory fit option vs Kubota's aftermarket solution 4: most Importantly the Dealer was alot better, the local JD dealer had been in business since the 70's with a team that had been with them since the beginning in some instances with a full workshop, parts, and field service crew vs the local Kubota dealer who has been in business since 2015 and one mechanic covering off both field service/ workshop and a sales guy that also worked the parts counter who doesn't have a great reputation.
Dealer support can make a huge difference, thanks as always Michael!
I also had a Kabota dealer with a bad reputation , but a couple of good ones a good ways off . The JD is great . Although one further away not so good . So that was part of my decision to buy a 4044m . Honestly if that deal didn't come along just at the right time I would've liked a a 4066r or the L series limited better . Except for a little worry about maneuvering in some thick stuff I have to do where I was worried about the cab .
I really enjoy your videos, great comparison. Being "old school", I really love my 2021 JD 3035D. Yep. Gear shift. If course, my JD lawnmower is hydro, so I do see the advantages. I used to work in a JD plant and can vouch for the sheer determination they have for quality. Paint, finish, heavy-dutiness sold me on them. On my farm, the tractor gets used a lot and I appreciate all of your videos, especially about attachments. Keep up the good work, man!
I appreciate it!
Hope that same quality in work carried over seas to India...
Great comparison video!!
Thanks!
Hey thanks for the video. I ordered a kabota bx23s last November and it's finally being delivered tomorrow. I was a little torn between it and the 1025r. I ended up going with the kabota mainly do to price. The kabota was about $23k and the 1025r was at 28k. Plus I was able to get 84 month 0% financing. Also kabotas loader accepts universal quick connect skidsteer attachments. Just my 2 cents worth.
When these guys compare the Kubota "BX" Line to the JD 1025R...... They ALWAYS never compare them on price..... as You stated, the JD 1025R w/hoe costs $28K Compared to the Kubota BX23s costs $23K that is a whole lot of difference in price!!!! You made a wise decision buying the BX23s
If these guys are going to compare compact tractors, they need to put the JD 1025R up against the Kubota B2301...... and then lets see witch one comes out on top !
I’m leaning more towards the Kubota MX6000. I own 50+ acres and I believe this would be the best tractor for me. Great video
Went with the Kubota M4D as well. Thanks as this confirmed my research.
Nice, how do you like it?
@@GoodWorksTractors I’ll know as it shows up in two weeks!
I have a 2024 JD 2032r and it's great. The 2 pedal hydro is what makes the JD better than the 1 treadle pedal 'Bota, IMO. I also really like the looks of the Massey's! JD dealer is 6 miles away and no MF dealers even close. JD's do hold their value well when selling or trading. Keep that in mind before deciding.
great video, but i really like your shelf's in the back, i've never thought of building them like that!
💥 Great video!
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Thank you sir!
I know at least 10 people with several thousand hours on small Kubota tractors mowers etc. with almost zero issues. I know at least five people that purchased small John Deere tractors and had problems with them ontop of being completely unhappy with their purchase. That being said I would and have been a Kubota guy with zero regrets to date👍. I’m sure someone else has a different experience I myself honestly wouldn’t consider a John Deere under 100 horsepower, their Chinese cheap built with bad quality control
A lot of disgusting Indian made parts
I looked at a new 3025e when shopping for tractors. I really wanted to like it, it was a handsome little tractor but was easily out classed by the Kubota L2501 and Kioti Ck2610. The 2 speed hst, aluminum trans housing, proprietary attachments, no fuel gauge on dash, the basic riding mower style sprung seat, loader controls on loader, exposed cast frame through deck etc was a deal breaker. It also had the lowest lift capacities and was the most expensive of the three. The Kioti is what we ended up buying
I really appreciate the effort you put into these videos Courtney . For those of us who are coming back into the tractor thing after many years , it's so helpful to be able to find answers .
This video shows you’ve done your homework! My wife, being a teacher, said to send kudos over your research friend!
Haha, much appreciated! You and the Mrs have a good day!
Wow what a video, I'm exhausted after viewing this one. You did a great job and really know your tractors. I always enjoy the videos that you do, thanks.
Haha, glad you enjoyed, thanks Steve!
Great video, like usual. I'm also glad you did the bonus round because i am in the market for a utility tractor for hay work. The only thing i do not like on the Kubota compacts with hydro is the treadle, just like you. I am 6'3", and i think that is part of it. My knee ends up sticking up in the air. I have been happy with my L3901 with a gear drive transmission, even with loader work. A treadle would be a deal breaker for me.
💥 A really nice comparison here. The Kubota BX needs some key improvements! I just don’t see that happening anytime soon. Maybe I’ll go green next time.
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Haha, no way, you stick to orange. You've got a whole theme going over there!
Well he was hanging out with Tim and Christy at TTWT a whole back so maybe that had an impact on him. LOL 😆
My decision process is: 1. listing what capabilities I need, including distance to dealera and comfort/convenience. 2. Finding models that fit without major drawbacks. 3. Comparing prices. Cheers
I think that's a sounds decision making list.
Hi Courtney,
Great comparison video!
Thanks Tom, nice to hear from you!
Interesting comparisons to be sure. So many choices just between two brands! I have a feeling most people that hate the treadle pedal have never even tried it or hardly spent any extended time using one. Personally I have spent a good amount of time on a twin pedal and it was easy to use. But I’ll take the treadle pedal over the twin. I can’t imagine anything being more natural and easier than simply rocking your ankle forward or backward. I’m certain that exact same motion happens when one walks. I found it is easier to finesse small movements changing direction with the treadle.
Of course there will be someone who spent years with the treadle and hated it.. ok. Obviously it boils down to personal preference. If the treadle pedal was that bad, Kubota would have canned it years ago.
I own a kubota bx 23 s. I find the quick attachments very quick and easy to switch out. I would like the more lift capacity which the deere has but I have owned my kubota for 2 years and it seems to be very well made and reliable
Another great video. Thanks!
Thank you sir :)
So what do you think of the kabota l2501???
I really enjoy all your videos.
I am still loving my 5115M thanks again.
She now has almost 300 hours on her.
I have had all the Deere sizes/series 1-5 series .
I do agree the 2025R is pretty much a 1.5 series or in my opinion as to why I own a 2025R today, is that it is really the perfect 1025R.
Everything I disliked about my 1025R was pretty much resolved with the 2025R.
Originally I had traded my 1025R for a 2038R.
Which at that time I also had a 3039R which I later traded that 3039R to you for the 4720 you have now.
The whole issue with the large frame 2 series is that it is the same physical size as a 3R, the 2038R has a wheelbase that is only 1/2 shorter then a 3039R.
The 3Rs were so much more capable then the large frame 2R. Plus the 2038R really would not fit anywhere I could not get my 3R into, so I lost my compact size and didn't gain all that much capability over the 1R .
Later I found that the 2025R really solved all the complaints I had with both the 1025R and the 2038R.
I now with the 2025R have the smaller size of the 1 series yet I have ground clearance that is sorry missing from the 1R.
The 2025R has a much smoother ride better ergonomics , it is more stable and has far better ground clearance then the 1025R.
IMO, the 2025R is the perfect 1 series tractor, or Subcompact tractor.
Which Deere does class the 2025R as a subcompact same as the 1025R.
I agree if your needing something more in line with the large frame 2Rs capability the 2038R is a good machine, might even be better to look at the 3R family which does get the 3 range hydro trans and is the same physical size as the 2038R, with even more lift capacity .
I am not sure, but I have always had the feeling these manufactures like to keep the water a little muddy when it comes to comparison of one brands models to another, meaning they don't quite line up perfectly with each other on purpose. That way one can say they are better then the other for this or that reason.
Oh how I miss the 5115!
This is a perfect case of there being the right tractor for everyone. That said, you did more trial and error than most, but you've now got a ton of experience to share because of it. Great info, say hi to Big Green for me!
@@GoodWorksTractors Will do.
Who knows maybe someday I will sell her back to you.
Big maybe on that one, since I do love both my 5115Ms.
Something you might like if your still keeping your 4720, I fell in love with that LSS system on the 5115M that I recently added LSS to my 4066R along with a self leveling loader that I really missed after trading that 4720 back to you since it had the MSL.
LSS is just an incredible feature. I know your like me, and love having all the features, LSS is one feature that if you have never experienced it, you should really try it. The 5115M I bought from you came with it my other 5115M does not have it, and the difference between them is night and day when it comes to loader work, also field work with the loader still on, the LSS really smooths out the ride a lot.
You hit the nail on the head. I left a comment earlier kind of saying what you were saying but not as in depth. I also had a 1025r and traded up to a 2025r. I completely agree that it might be a little ambitious to call it a 2 series but I feel like it’s the perfect tractor. It’s like a bigger slightly more capable 1025r yet still being relatively compact. I think people overlook it because it kind of settles through the cracks but I think it’s just about perfect.
Great video Courtney, I'm sure you'll ruffle some feathers but great info to get out there. I compared the 3e and standard L when I was tractor shopping and came to the same conclusion as you. Additional data points I found were important were lift height/capacity of the loader, material choice of the transmission and front axle size/construction
Thank you!
Ever Look at the RK Series tractors? like the new RK25?
As a Gen2 2025R owner, for reference, here is a list of differences between the machine and a 1025R.
Differences only between the 2025R and 1025R include:
- Increased ground clearance
- Increased loader lift capacity
- Increased 3 pt lift capacity
- Higher maximum ground speed in Low and High
- Increased hydraulic performance
- More spacious-feeling (for me) driver cockpit area
- Increased overall length
- Large difference in base weight
- Completely different larger wheels and tires which give the tractor very different performance characteristics on different terrain types.
- Tires, when filled if desired, add additional hundreds of pounds of weight difference which further affects stability and performance at work
I think I got most everything. I chose the 2025R after almost purchasing a 1025 and could not be happier. It may or may not "beat" the comparable Kubota, but it seems to justify its premium over the 1025R, in my opinion. Hopefully that is helpful.
I love my 2025r … and love it even more after I used my neighbors Kabota…. Like alot
Started with compacts with kioti. Both were fantastic hard working and dependable. Then went to Kubota. Both of those were great engine wise but trans and hydraulics stalled easily and never got used to the treadle peddle. Then went to John Deere. 2305 first and now a 1025r. No issues with the 2305. 1025r has/had a few issues (hydraulic leaks, position control failure and seat suspension breakage to name a few. Pretty sure next and maybe last will be a Kioti again.
I have a l3560 and I never use my heel to run in reverse. I just move my foot back and press down with my toe. For me it works the same as it would on a JD, but instead of moving my foot right or left it is forwards or back. This makes backing up really comfortable if I turn and look over my right shoulder, because my foot is next to the seat and not stretched out.
Another fine example of comparing features, benefits, quality and value to determine the real and comparative value of quality gear. :)
Always enjoy hearing from you Lea, hope you're doing well!
You have a really good camera voice. Nicely done video
Great comparison. And, I agree wholeheartedly!
Interesting video. You're probably right about the 2025R vs B2601 for value for money. Personally I've got a Gen 2 2025R TLB on a small hobby farm with lots of tight spaces and a bigger tractor wouldn't have suited the property. It is my very first tractor and the capabilities of the 1025R would have suited my needs, but the ground clearance alone was a big problem as we have overgrown fields and other rough terrain that I need that clearance for. The 2025R is just a little bit bigger, taller, heavier and more capable. I can fill the bucket to the brim with rocks or gravel and lift it effortlessly and I think most people overestimate how much weight they really need to lift when looking at specs. In the real world the loader lift capacity has never been a problem for me. The price difference between the 1025R and the 2025R was only around $3000 Canadian while the difference between the 1025R and 2032R was closer to $12,000 CAD, or $8,000 more than the 2025R. Also the nearest Kubota dealer is 3 hours away and I have a Deere dealer within walking distance of my house so it was a big deciding factor even though it's a very extreme case. Anyway, always listen to your customers needs because the 2025R may be the perfect machine for them if they just need a little bit more over a 1025R because the small price difference is worth it in my opinion.
The one thing that you did not mention in the JD 4series vs MX and even the 4R vs Grand L was the Hitch Assist on the Heavy Duty models and the R series. Extremely nice when hooking up a heavy implement on uneven ground, not having to go back and forth to the operator station.
Thanks for your informative video’s I appreciate your help and advice. I am a proud owner of a new MX6000 open station and have a backhoe on order. I am considering having one or two remotes added when the backhoe is installed. I may get a 12 foot batwing in the future. I wanted your opinion as I don’t know if there’s different types for different applications , if so what would you recommend. I just thought since they will have to run hydraulics to the backhoe it would be a good time for the remotes to be installed. Thanks for any information on this .
The Kubota hydraulic system is low volume, low pressure. All remotes,&backhoe hydraulic flow is further restricted through the loader control valve ( quit good), but restrictive plumbing---too small of hoses & fittings --- They cheeped out! My Kubota Mx5200 got revamped (by me) ,with bigger hoses& fittings for a 40% improvement. Now the backhoe is just slow, previously it was almost uncappable. When it was "New" it was set up for amitures, with only two &1/2 functions at once for the backhoe & was burning the fluids, things got HOT after 45 minutes. The backhoe All ways had power just NO Speed. Just don't like screaming 54hp for just 13hp of hydraulic power--they NEED A BIGGER Pump. Happy safe tractoring Sir.
I had a 1025r and currently have a 2025r. I don’t regret my decision. It is more expensive but I feel it’s almost justified. You do get a bigger rearend with the 2025r along with a slightly bigger hydro pump. There are other aspects to a tractor that people forget. The 2025r weighs almost 400 pounds more than a 1025r and is about 7” longer. I noticed the extra weight digging into a pile of gravel. And JD fit and Finnish is so much better…my buddy has a Kubota b2601…20k dollar tractor and kubota can’t put a digital hour meter on?? My seat is nicer and comes with a bucket level indicator. The kubota doesn’t. The 2025r also has all the same quick disconnect stuff as the 1025r.
Good perspective, thanks for sharing!
The 2025 r is a tiney turd for a old homeowner with a small yard. I have a mower for the grass and a mx 6000 for a tractor big difference folks and very small difference in price
No "D"? and what of the MSL availability?
MSL has really become less appealing to me since putting a lot of time on my 4720 on the property. I'm not sure I'd get it again, at least not for out there.
Didn't think about the 3d
I’d have to agree with everything in this video. Iv only owned kubota’s. Currently own a bx25d and a mx6000. always wanted a John Deere. The 1025r stomps the BX, John Deere makes such a nice tractor, I just can’t get past the fact of the 2 range transmission. I looked at the 4052r, extremely nice tractor! Kubota was just a little cheaper and the dealership was closer and I already had a couple skid steer attachments. I will own a John Deere one day
Haha, well Kubota is a great brand too. Hope they treat you well!
Have you driven a John Deere? I rarely use high on my 1023E, low is fast enough. Working in my garden or when mowing I just leave it in low. A few times when I was digging dirt on side of my property to fill in a low spot on the other side I was shifting into high to run over the low spot but the tractor plenty of torque in high to creep if you need to and it takes just a second to shift back to low to load the bucket.
@@daddio7249 I had a 1026R and had a LINE of folks wanting to buy it. I too just used low gear and worked well.
I been trying to buy a used JD 2032r with 1040 hr. FEL W/mower deck. Well taken care of Salesman said, It does look to be in Good condition. Asking 23900.00 Turned down 19G from me.. :( Thanks for your video here. Appreciate it!
Would you consider doing a 3 way comparison between John Deere, Kubota, and Kioti? I am looking at that compact level of the John Deere 2032R/2038R Vs Kubota LX3310 VS kioti ck3510se hst. I would really like to hear your review of the Kioti to try and determine which is the best tractor. If you have already done this review, I apologize for asking again, just point me to the link.
Yes, I'd like to see that too
Haven't done it yet, need to do more videos like that in the future
Seems like a good review overall I'm sure it will help new tractor buyers.
I just bought a kubota M4D-071. I wanted to stay less than 75hp to avoid DEF. Also contending were the M62 TLB and Grand L6060. The things that won me over were the 2900lb loader capacity (middle of the pack, more than L6060, less than M62) and the enclosed large cab with buddy seat (M4 is the only one with a buddy seat, the L6060 has enclosed cab only, M62 has no cab). Delivery is next week. Use is property maintenance including heavy EA wicked grapple (600lbs) for use in the woods, limited tilling, hogging, snow removal. Will be adding top and tilt kit, +4 additional rear hydraulics.
Alot of people don't know how important position control is but it's a must have in my opinion glad you mentioned that kubota is a great tractor if I was buying one it would be a model with that function
Glad you included the 5e. Looking hard at that right now
Good comparisons. I’m a subcompact guy and JD owner. In my opinion the Kubota doesn’t come close to the JD in that category as far as ease of use and capacities except maybe 3 pt lift. Have a couple of friends with orange subs and have used them. They don’t come close especially ease of use. And in my opinion JD beats Kubota as far as looks goes in all categories especially the subs. JD subs look much more substantial. I’m tall and feel funny on the Kubota subs.
When I was looking at the 3E and standard L series I went in leaning heavily toward John Deere. I wanted that green paint bad. However, when I started comparing features, design, capabilities, and construction I was very disappointed with what I found with the 3E. I would have to go to the 3R and a higher cost even to come close to match the L. I went with a L3301 Kubota and I am very pleased with it. Great video.
Yeah, pretty substantial differences when factoring in the small price difference.
Me too, was already leaning orange exactly same L3301 blew the green out of the water and was far less expensive very happy
Nicely done! Glad you incorporated the last set of utilities. I was leaning towards the Kubota. The jump seat aspect just sold me as I hadn’t considered the kids coming along.
Happy to help!
Hello, this is a bit older video and was wondering which John Deere you’d compare to a Kubota LX 4020?
Or a LX 3520. Please thank you in advance.
The fact that Deere is horrible on the larger tractor spectrum for treating farmers and just outsourced their smaller tractors to overseas makes me hate the whole brand. That 'Deere' pride is akin to Apple and Tesla fandom. Such a shame to see a once king of that industry just get compalcent and enjoy the good easy coasting times corporately from being the supreme king once.
Smaller tractors are still made in the us
The treadle direction control was a total deal breaker for me. I borrowed my neighbors small Kubota to spread a load of shell rock on my drive way. I am 70 and my leg got very tired holding my foot up on it. When I went to buy my own small tractor I did not even consider getting a Kubota, I love my new JD 1023E. The two speed transmission is good enough. Most of the time I only need low. The only time I use high is when I am driving from one end of my property to the other. Shifting to high is easy and only takes a second.
One thing I like about the pedals on the kubota is when I’m doing stuff with the back I don’t have to look forward to make sure I don’t hit the wrong pedal like I would on the John Deere so I can keep looking at the implements and make sure nothing happens
I see your shooting some Montec's, what bow do you shoot?
I bought my 3901 over a year ago. It’s the manual, 4x4, bar tires, rear remotes with a loader and backhoe. I literally use it multiple times a week. Having a backhoe is awesome. I do not regret getting it. I got a pretty good deal on the tractor and backhoe. I own 6 acres and have a good sized pond between my neighbor and my property.
I’ve owned everything from a L series, gen 1 2025r, b2601… the green tractors proprietary implements just piss me off… and their smaller tractors aren’t happy with a backhoe on them. Biggest complaint on Kubotas is that their lineup was confusing to figure out… I will keep my little bx(grass friendly garden tractor) and my L series( is much tougher than the B series) for dragging trees and working hard
Love the cut to the chase review. I'm still not 100% sure which I want. Kinda want something American. I honestly don't care where they build them, I want to support American companies. I'm in Tennessee and the Kubota is a lot cheaper. They have a dealer close by in Georgia that offers packages that even includes a trailer.
Hello there,
I am in the middle of a purchase of either a JD 4044R or a Kubota 4600HD. I have reviewed the documentation and both have good attributes and some less impressive features.
What would you recommend?
I love to spend time watching your videos and often wish I found you prior to my purchase, I would have certainly been a more informed customer!
This was ver helpful.
I recently did a comparison of the MX5400 Vs the Deere 4044m in two local dealerships; feature wise they were similar enough, loader and 3 point capability is near identical. But for the same dollars where I am you get the 55hp MX or the 44hp Deere; and when you start with 20% less PTO hp for the same nickel that green paint just isn’t good enough to make up the difference. To get into the same HP in a Deere I was looking at a 20% price premium, so I went with the orange one. No regrets so far, although I’ve only got about 1 hr of machine time on yet.
Thank you
You're welcome!
How about the Kioti tractors?
Good machines, just not compared in this video.
Have you done any comparisons with case and Massey Ferguson? Those are options in my area. But I've heard bad things about new case tractors
I watch you everyday .I love your information. Thank you .
Ps just wish you talked about Mahindra (3016) mine
I have a 2025R. What spacers would you recommend?
@3:31 Is that a structural crack as evidenced by rust? Looks like a failed cold weld.
Do they make a dual rear wheel kit for 3025 or is it not practical just wondering
What do you think about a kubota m4900 4x4 cab tractor with a loader?
I own a JD 4052M and lately I’m very disappointed not with the tractor but in general with JD service. Every time you need an attachment I feel they are doing me a favor. If you need service ( I own several JD PRODUCTS) they take your machine, and later realize it takes 8 weeks to get a part. They can easily leave the machine w you, order the part and, when arrives, work on what is necessary. Is there the same feeling around??
Is Kubota service better??
I do believe that service has to be a great part of the decision…
I looked at the JD 1025 and the Kubota BX23S. Both were impressive but final decision was the Kubota. I was much more comfortable with the Kubota dealership and the pricing on the Kubota was much better. As someone mentioned green paint must be expensive! Keep up the great videos!!
Dealer can make a big difference, thanks for sharing Dan!
What is your take/experience on the JD3035D?
Still fairly new, but have heard lots of good things from owners.
I have a B 3350. I like the HP but hate the regeneration. I find when I turn around to face rear I most often hit the steering height adjustment lever…the placement is hazardous. One issue Kubota has note changed is the placement of the battery ground which is outside on the lower front frame. If there is a lot of rain and after the winter the threads become rusted breaking the circuit. Placement inside the hood would be better. The tractor feels tipsy on a hill due to its higher center of gravity as compared to my previous B 3029.
Yeah, good tractor besides the regen issue. Wasn't aware of that ground issue, thanks for sharing!
Nice comparison on all the tractors. I guess my JD 3320 is too old to be included in this group. If I was to upgrade anything on it I would add a couple more auxiliary functions to the rear. I can run the backhoe but other than that it's a 1 trick pony. Do you know if it's possible to add aftermarket auxiliary hydraulic ports?
3320 is very close to the 3033r. Good tractor. Summit-hydraulics.com might have a solution for you on the extra hydros. Save 5% with code GWT
@@GoodWorksTractors Awesome! Thank you.
Have 3039r now but the 3320 was an awesome never a problem.
@@marlondeere3039R Yes! So far at close to 1700 hours all I've had to replace is a fan belt and a battery. This is not a garage queen either. Move trees with it. Remove 3' diameter stumps and roots. With 20 acres of trees and creek this little tractor shines! Best purchase I have ever made.
@@raymondmcdonald7085 wish I wouldn't of traded. 52 hours on new one. It does have a couple of things I like better but that is it. It's just made cheaper. Been back to dealer once needs to go again.
Good reviews. I do think it makes a difference how you get the tractor configured and how you plan to use it. It is most definitely a point in the LX3310's favor that it has an option for a cab, but if you don't get it with a cab does it still win? The drive over mower deck isn't just for the 1 series John Deere's. The 2's and 3's have them as well. If you don't plan on using the MMM then it isn't a point for JD, if you do then it is. When I can afford it I would really like to step up from the 1025R and am trying to decide between the LX 3310 and the 2032R/2038R. A point for me to consider that may not apply to everyone is that since I already have a 1025R I can keep my pallet forks, stump bucket and grapple if I stay with JD, if I got the Kubota I would have to buy all those again.
Yeah, like I say, it was off the cuff comments from me. I've done lots of in depth comparisons weighing more factors. Thanks, as always, for watching!
@@GoodWorksTractors Yeah, I've been subscribed and watching your videos for a few years now. I mostly just wanted to comment to add my two cents to comment section. There is usually lots of good points brought up by your viewers. Thanks for the great content.
Does Deere allow you to put in your own gas or is it necessary for a JD Tech come out and do it?
I have run bigger Kubota tractors ( M120 ) and had a Kubota zero turn mower - both seemed really good, although the loader arms on the M120 were disappointing - they bent far too easily. I recently had a 2010 Case 35 Farmall and that was a great little tractor but found myself wanting more out of a compact size tractor. I just ( literally yesterday ) bought a used JDeere 4720 with 1500 hours on it. I think that the 4720 will be the right fit for what I want it to do - mainly snow removal in the winter and a complement machine to my skidsteer for repairing and building gravel roads and right of ways.
You most definitely can order a buddy seat for a 5075E. Instructional seat, right on build page. If you are handy enough with part numbers you can get the 3rd function and rear wiper too :D
Couldn't add it to the 5e tractors I had. Believe me, I tried. Dealer said it wasn't an option. Maybe 2012 and 2016 models if I remember right.
@@GoodWorksTractors yes this is for current model year. I was split between a 4066 and 5075. Had the 5075 loaded and my dealer pulling his hair out but was able to add rear wiper (nuts its not a factory option) and 3rd function. Seat was factory option. Ended up with the 4066R as it was just a better size fit and nicer finish. The cab size is great on the 5075E though. Only thing I made the dealer change was a nearly impossible to find JD rear windshield relocation kit for the 4066 that actually makes it work worth a 💩
God is so so good ❤️🙏
Despite being a big fan of the 1025R I really feel once you leave the subcompact range there is no comparison. I just feel you get a lot more for the money with Kubota. I wouldn't even consider a 2032R/2038R when for less money I could get a standard L which is a far more capable tractor. I know one is considered economy and the other deluxe but I just couldn't justify it. If for some reason I was comparing the 2032 and the LX3310 it would again be a no brainer for the 3 range transmission.
Things may tip back towards the Deere once you get to the 4 series and above but I have no experience there so I can't really comment on it.
All that said I don't think any tractors from either brand are bad (now that Kubota dropped the 3350). It's all about what's important to you.
To me the biggest reason to go with the 1025r over the bx is the extra lift capacity. Other than that I like the bx alot more.
Does John Deere offer the Stall Guard feature that Kubota offers on the Grand series? I didn't think it would be something that I would use, but teaching my wife to use the tractor and brushing up my own skills, the Stall Guard has been a nice feature.
The stall Guard is only on the Kubota.
Deere invented that idea with LoadMatch. It won’t allow the engine to stall when doing any work except PTO work (you hit a stump while mowing for example).
That loader comes off pretty easily I see, but I don't have to get off the seat of my bx23s to unhook the hydraulics. And it's also really easy to take off. The kubota also has the manifold and its one latch to disconnect 4 lines.
I think I saw in one of your videos that the mid mount mower won't go on and off without first removing the FEL on the 1025r? Can anyone confirm?
Why would you be mowing with the front end loader on anyway?
@@garyh.8082 because it's used from time to time. Just like the mid mount mower. With SSQA I just take off my bucket and never have problems. Is that true of the JD? Not to mention I lift the front of the tractor up and it's easier the get the mower under the tractor.
I have had multiple BX's with puddles under the single point connections and loader joysticks off the new generation. I've replaced parts on multiple loader quick park systems too.
I remove the mower deck and install it with the loader on all the time (on the 1025r). So, didn't hear that from me.
@@GoodWorksTractors I have heard that from others that the hydraulic manifolds leak. I have been fine with mine so far. Glad to hear that wasn't true of the FEL and MMM.
@@Sventy11 Understood, but the reason I take my front end loader off which is easy to do, is cuz the swing rate is allows me to get the tighter places versus having it on.
That bucket sticks out quite away so they can do some serious damage if you're not careful.
Excellent assessment Courtney. I believe it was fairly done. Because of the stiff competition that each presents to the other these types of comparisons will sway one way and then the other. Both are at the top of the compact & sub compact market so it is hard to say your going to be a looser one way or another. With Kubota coming out the winner in the long run every time.... LOL,,, Yea I'm Orange........
Haha, orange did win a good amount this time around!
@@GoodWorksTractors This time around... That is exactly what I meant by they will push each other back and forth where each one has an edge at a certain time but then the other will up it's game and it will swing back. That is what good competition does for any company. Because of that you really won't go wrong no matter which you buy. I'm still orange though.
When I look at the specs for the MFG1725M vs. the BX2380, the MF has 400lbs more bucket lift, if I read it right. Is that right?
You forgot to mention the Deere tractors turn sharper in every class. Also, the 4R has an economy PTO, self leveling loader and the drivetrain is much more heavy duty (planetary final drive). Hydraulic flow is also higher on every JD mode vs Kubota.
I've never had a 4r with ePTO. Turning radius really only matters to me on a tractor I'm mowing with, JD does win there. Kubota's loader control makes it very easy to do 2 functions at one. I am undecided on MSL. Thanks for watching!
It’s an option that’s been available since 2011. I have several hundred hours on a 4520 with it. Full 540 PTO at 1800rpm. Works great for rototilling and mowing. Turning radius is huge when working in tight areas; especially doing loader work. MSL is great, and the smaller Deere loaders with it aren’t perfect, but they can lift way more than the competition.
@@GoodWorksTractors Turning radius cleaning small parking lots of snow is huge... ( I know, ya have to have snow, but I do :)
@@Formulabruce Haha, I hear ya. However, a small parking lot is still a parking lot. Not a driveway. I've had just about every modern model in my small parking lot at my shop. The only way I can think of to get a real significant difference in turning radius is by going smaller. You could call the flat area at the top of my driveway at home a small parking lot I suppose. In that case, the 1025r still isn't close to nimble enough to turn around easily in my drive even though it has a tigher turning radius than the BX.
Nothing beat the X739 AWS I had for my drive.
@@mrdeereford Yeah, I'm sure it's nice, but my point was just that ePTO is not popular, I've had many 4 Series machines and never had it on there. I liked MSL at my shop for moving pallets. I wish I didn't have it out at my property. That's why I'm undecided on it.
The buddy seat is an option on the 5075E, its a dealer installed option. I had one installed in mine
Maybe depends on model year. I have checked on two over the years and not an option for either of the 5e that I had.
I love my 3039 r!!
The Kubota L series HST Plus transmission is an incredible feature, can't imagine ever going back to something without it.
It is nice for sure, sometimes I wonder if I am being too nitpicky when using it. 3 range hydro is enough for me for the most part.
@@GoodWorksTractors Put it in auto mode and let it do it's thing.
My tractor (L4701) never shows up in these comparisons. It’s just an odd duck, but a great fit for me.
I kinda forgot all about it! It would fit at home in the 4m/MX comparison...or somewhere around there! 🤣
For people like me I need shuttle shift . Or the forwards and backwards on the steering column. I can not use the Kubota floor foot .
It's a lot of data and fun comparing these... It would be good for another video to group tractors by how they're best used next... For example, "Small homestead/landscaper machines where flexibility with weight and smaller frame size is best", "Middle farm and ranch machines heavy enough for ground work/round bales", "Big farm machines with the heavy weight and heavy price tag to go with it".
Haha, it is a good time. Especially off the cuff. Less prep work for me! :)
I had a B2650 and recently upgraded to a 3028R, mostly for the MSL loader, ease of connecting the backhoe and extra HP in a similar size. I miss the M range for sure, but autothrottle helps.
One thing you didn’t mention on the Grand L are two unique options: hydraulic SSQA and hydraulic thumb for the backhoe. I’m not sure those are available on any other compact tractor of that size.
Good video overall. I am curious why on the utility tractor comparison you used the 5e series instead of 5m since the 5m is much more popular and does offer buddy seats plus several other features that the 5e doesn't since the 5e is the cheap version.
I've found the 5e to be much more popular than the 5m. That is why.
Correct me if I am wrong but the 5m is much more expensive than a Kubota M4