NOT EVEN CLOSE! JOHN DEERE vs KUBOTA: B2601 vs 2025 vs B2650
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Today we're giving you an overview of the Kubota B2601 vs the John Deere 2025R vs the Kubota 2650. These are comparable models for each brand, and there are things we prefer on the Kubota and things we prefer on the John Deere. We'll cover max loader capacity, three-point capacity, wheel-base and weight, features, attachments, and layout.
If you're a Kubota guy, let us know what we missed. If you're a John Deere, do the same. Leave a comment with your take on any of the talking points.
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You don't understand, I have already been on your website several times. That is where I saw the tractors that I asked you about.
I would like the see the John Deere 2025R specs with the H130 loader on it.
I’m kind of looking right now everything I see is over priced trying to get some thing around 4 to 6 thousand need a Mower deck and a No blade or snowblower in Illinois so about aAcre and a half and Hundred yards of driveway
Good comparison vid. Very helpful. That means our John Deere does not get a Dear John. Thanks.
That yellow on John Deere represents the gold JD owners are going to pay for maintenance.
What's wrong with me watching tractor related videos when my work is not even closely related? I don't know, but there's something magical about tractors... I liked them since my childhood.
Me too.
I’m even worse I went out and bought a Kubota tractor 20 years ago. I didn’t even need it. Barely use it but I still have it because I love it too much to sell it.
@@scrapperstacker8629 I'm sure I would have done the same if the circumstances allowed... I just don't have where to keep it... :)
🙂 so-oo true , i learned to drive on a wee grey Fergie 😉 🚜
Yeah i love watching for lunch or whenever im waiting around and stuff like that it's fun
Lots of good comments on here, I also love my 2601, its a little tank. I ordered and modified the B2650 back hoe sub frame to fit my 2601. Huge increase in frame strength support but then down the road I could put on the larger backhoe that has the capabilities to bury an 8' deep water line. They are really impressive tractors, I have built many attachments to fit my little work horse. Love it and hope everyone is just as happy with their little tractors no matter what the color. They are expensive but so handy to have.
Thank you for the unbiased comparison.
Great resource........pulled a lot of good info out of your video. Comparisons are helpful
Thanks for the information, Merry Christmas.
First video of yours I have seen and I am very impressed with the work you put in to get information out. You got a thumbs up and a sub before I even got halfway through the vid. Good Job!! Looks like I will be binge watching some tractor videos lol.
We have a bunch of Kubota excavators and skidsteers at the construction company I work for. They run basically nonstop all year and hold up really well.
Our JD skid steer, got a video of it burning down, less than a year old at the time. Knew, did know, don't know them anymore, because they burned to death in JD cab tractors. I don't know anyone that's died of covid. Seen a good many of those yanmar green tractors with cracked heads. Kubota cracks heads too, but all of them were well used and old when it happened. Be sure and always check the gearbox on the Kubota decks. They are a pain to replace. I tend to avoid plastic hoods and grilles. I got so tired of replacing that mess. Dealer financed and customer had to have insurance, so it was replaced when brought in. Or, you get the guy that ran a fairly new tractor out of diesel. He put more fuel in it and used starting fluid trying to start it. Engine was no bueno.
Well, I'm definitely glad to hear that. How has your experience been with service parts for repairs?
Does the John turd have a yanmar engine ?
Thanks!..excellent help. Ive been shoping for weeks Wish you were closer!
I can ship!
Another great video. I enjoyed the comparison. I own the JD 1025R and I love it. Good job and please have a Merry Christmas
Thanks, same to you!
One of the best GWT comparisons so far. Also investigating the leaf sweeping unit following last week's video.
Greatly appreciated!
this was a super important learning video for a beginner like me. Thank you for this valuable information!
Absolutely one of the best presentations on machinery. Clear, concise and to the point. Made me want to buy a tractor (Kubota). The pack rat reminded me of the old Christmas movie where Chevy Chase shooed the deer out to sell his house.
Funny Farm - I just remembered that he was a writer - and the Deer comment was enough to remember it - that and the always hot wife
1. Good presentation style, not any extra jibberish, but all the necessary details.
2. Can you do a segment specifically on types of quick hitch systems with pros and cons?
3. Add a Kioti in for comparison.
Thanks!
My family has been a Kubota dealer since ‘87. Reliability for Kubota is legendary. Hydrostatic transmissions are outstanding. Really only need to do basic maintenance. Very rare to have any major issues.
Ryobi make a good tool.
Good video. I compared JD and K real serious in 2018. Have friends with both. Ended up with a K3301 4wd HST. Great tractor. Use in uneven terrain with everything from front grapple to brush hog in rear. Keep fluids fresh and roll.
Really enjoyed this video.. learned so much!
Your videos are very good, fair, and comprehensive. I lean more Deere, but I see how Kubota is leading in many areas eg telescoping draft links instead of a turnbuckle.
Great review! We bought a 3033R a couple years ago. It is our 3rd and last John Deere. It didn’t last 15 hours before it spent 3 weeks at the dealer and then another 3 weeks at the dealer for a complete wiring harness before it had 150 hours. I would definitely lean toward a Kubota or Massy. We had the same horse power JD and thought we would upgrade to a new an improved tractor.
$30,000 and 15 hours later, we realized we had made a big mistake. $30,000 and 150 hours later, we confirmed that mistake.
I think our 3320 was a lot more tractor for the same horse power.
I have a 3038 I bought in 2013 new. It has been used on a hunting lease since 2013. I’ve run the shit out it, never a problem. I also run it on my property, nice to have. I don’t know about now, but mine is awesome.
I International with the engine hanging out front I used in Arizona was tricky; Much weight hanging in front and broken engine stops were common with careless operators. Steering drifted a good deal on long drives across the fields- often 425-1200 acres each. A pain to stay in a straight line.
I do appreciate your videos. Very helpful in educating me on the different models in my search. Thank you.
I’ve been a subscriber for quite a while. I always find your videos very informative from numbers to detailing giving “new life to faded tractors” making them look good as new! I really like how you compare different models.
The Backhoe IS DEFINITELY a serious purchase. I like the convenience of always having my backhoe on hand, but I see both sides of the argument.
I’ve had several folks ask about my tractor only to realize a new tractor might be out of their price range (like having another car payment). I think a lot of folks don’t know what options they have for a good used tractor when it comes to financing, any warranty they might still have, and what to look for. Your videos are truly great! ~SBYD!
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Have a great day!
Agree - Courtney does a great job w/these vids esp. considering his business model.
Just because they have a backhoe available doesn't mean you should use it. These things aren't made to handle a backhoe. If you need a backhoe get a backhoe unless you like repairing frame damage.
@@josephkordinak1591 I think what you mean is there is a “risk” to damaging your tractor or the possibly bending your frame. You’ll hear anyone who sells these or owns one say this….that is a risk I fully understood and a risk I was willing to assume when I bought my tractor.
I understand your opinion and what you are saying, but here’s a little more context to mine:
So I’m the only guy operating my little backhoe.
Both Kubota and John Deere Engineer, Design, Manufacture, and sell tractors “with available backhoe attachments” depending upon a specific model as well as dedicated Commercial Grade Backhoes.
What you get with a tractor is a backhoe specifically designed for a tractor that is removable and has a fully integrated subframe to reinforce the tractors frame Vs a commercial duty backhoe which is not designed to do all the other tasks a tractor owner wants to do.
It’s not made to be abused…
So again in my opinion I personally like my backhoe. It’s not a commercial grade backhoe, but it will get small jobs done.
If I Really wanted to dig; I would actually go with a Hydraulic Excavator for any big excavation projects, a dozer for clearing grubbing and scrubbing; a track loader or bucket loader for material handling, a scraper with an extra dozer (they get stuck easily as the bowl gets full) I don’t like scrapers, but the have a purpose;; a grader for crowning and grading for drainage, dump trucks to move material between my projects and the borrow pits, a roller with a sheep’s foot, for initial compaction to grade. As well as a smooth roller for that final finish…but I digress…
Very happy with my B2601 purchase man.
I got the b2650 with a cab amd backhoe this year and i love the crap out of it. Also got the front claw bucket thingy. I can pick up massive logs.
I really appreciate this video. I'm in the market for a tractor and having a hard time separating the details from the hype.
Great video! My family over the years have had Fordstons, Fords, Olivers, JD, Kubota, Allis Chalmers, IHCs etc. Never brand loyal but always looked for the best deal or a certain capability (such as the early turbocharged Allis-Chalmers) I looked and tested JD, Kubotas, Case, New Holland, Mahindra, etc. Although I was leaning toward Kubota I eliminated them after I visited their dealership and was very depressed at their incompetence and lack of knowledge about what they were selling. I believe the most important thing in a tractor today is the dealer and their ability to provide good, fast, and reliable service. I ended up buying a 2015 JD 2032R and have had nothing but good reliable service from it. It isn't the most comfortable tractor out there but it is a worker. Good maintenance practices on any brand will pay dividends.
A farmer I worked for changed to a Deutz from a Kubota for the same reason. They weren’t interested in keeping you happy, even if it was their fault. I actually had the main gearshift come off in my hand while running a bale shredder. It was a lot of forward/reverse, and a long-standing crack in the casting let go. They seemed unwilling to accept that as unusual.
Another great video
This was a great video. I’ve been wanting a smaller tractor for years. My operation in Afghanistan has been using a Kubota since 2010 and that thing is unstoppable. But, I’m a big fan of JD. I have a Toro professional zero turn mower so a mower is not required. I want a back hoe and a loader.
I have had my B2601 for two years now and love it. Only regret is I wish I would have gotten the quick attach system for the loader.
Great comparison! My LX2610 arrives "Home" on Tuesday after being on the JD order list for over a year. After researching the competition, walked into my local "Orange" dealer the first time last week and "Bingo!"....sale was done in less than an hour. Three-speed gear range, lift capacities, ground clearance, price and LX abundant features were the compelling reasons! UPDATE: Now with a little more than 14 hours on the clock. The LX2610 was a GREAT decision! Accessory time now begins.
Love the "little friend". Nice, pleasant add. Good work!
Dolphins! I know you have to earn those. Thanks for your service.
@@diastoleny You're welcome. It was a long time ago, though. I got out in 1988.
Excellent presentation as always! Thanks.
What a great video. Lots of good information. Thanks again.
HUGE help in my shopping, I'm in Canada, so Can't order from you, but my father now lives in FL so I'll refer you All day long.
I don't have any experience with sub compact or regular compact tractors but I do own a John deere 6430 and a John deere x165 witch is the same as a e 170 in the US and I absolutely love both machines Greetings from Norway
Very cool, thanks for watching!
Great video. A lot of good information on comparison and. Design specks.
Thanks for taking the time to explain and show comparisons gob well done. Later 👍
Like most have said, great video with some really good info...wish you were closer..thanks for the upload
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Another good review.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I am not in the market for a tractor but this guy is a great presenter. Could be a newscaster.
Agree, I was thinking that the whole video. LOL, I almost wrote the whole show.
Seems too honest to be on the news.
Great comparison video! Thanks!
This is the first video of yours that I've watched. Very informative. I may be a first time buyer in a year or so. Ill be watched more of your video and learning .
I was a mechanic at a JD dealer for years and found that quick coupler set up for the drive over deck to be a real pain. Hard to get it set up right and hard to keep it right. I don't think you should hang too much weight on the 3 point. They are 4 wheel drive and so traction should not be an issue. Had a customer with one of these JDs. Can't remember if it was the 1 or 2 series. Had a snowblower on the front and a concrete weight on the back. Nice big aved driveway area. Bouncy got that weight broke the 3 point cylinder area off the trans. It's all one casting on that model. Tractor was almost new. Had to change the entire transfer housing. Lots of money and lots of work other models had the cylinder area bolt on. Another thing I've seen is the bearings fail on the hydraulic pump idler gear. I saw someone put a comment about a bad 318. Mostly they were a very solid tractor. Main problems I ever saw were the electric clutches. Especially the rear one for a tiller. And when they get old the gasket under the oil sending unit dries out and leaks making a mess.
Can I fix any of them without having to hook up to a server somewhere?
Thanks for the info. The step for a B2650 will bolt right on the Kubota B2601 with out any modifications. The part number for the step is 6A700-51350
Sounds like others say it interferes with the mower deck though. Thanks for sharing!
Cant say anything about the mower clearing but the step fits perfectly. And I think its great
You do a great job. Seriously thanks.
I have been using my 2016 New Holland 41 tractor 4WD w/loader on areas of my lawn I shouldn't, since I retired and gave away my Kubota 20hp w/belly mower for over 20 years. So, I'm definitely going orange again and have decided which one I want. My dealer has a nice LX2610HSD w/loader for about $20. Not too big and not too small. My old Kubota had some limitations but the LX2610 looked just right. I stopped buying JD back in the 90's and never looked back. I'm definitely going to subscribe because the info is excellent and so are the replies.
Video was packed full of good info......wow
Glad you enjoyed!
I bought a b2650 new on November 2019 r4 tires, loader with skid steer quick attachment, 60" mid mount deck and 60" bush hog for 22k. Haven't regretted it one bit. JD would have cost me way more new with all that and their attachment system is proprietary so I'd have to buy their stuff to use. Best bang for the buck, I say go with a Kubota.
Great video, and educational - thanks!
Thanks for all the info! Great video, you answered all my questions and some I didn't know I had. Where are you located?
Good job, Courtney!
Thank you sir!
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I know it would be tough to do without all the products but I would love to see a video comparing the front mount snowblowers from different manufacturers. Seeing what brand is the best for a compact tractor.
Yeah, would really like to have those blowers at my shop to compare.
@@GoodWorksTractors Now that you've played with inverted/forward driving 3-point mount snow blowers, what do you think about them vs front mount snow blowers?
Retired, most excellent presentation, WELL DONE ! LOTS OF COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION.
THIS is what ALL Review/comparisons should be...VERY well done...thanks. FWIW: I am a JD guy, have been for years...
Thanks a lot! Very much appreciated.
JD is against right to repair. i guess you like getting ripped off by john deere
I went with the Kubota 7060 because of the color basically. The farm I bought had an old tractor (it died)and most of the inoliment as were orange.
I wish the B2601 had a 72” mower deck option, I would be sold on it.
Buy a rear 3 pt. finish mower. Never liked midmounts much, anyway, due to their limited lift clearance
one step closer to deciding. Great info.
Thanks for this video, you information from selling both brands is awesome. I'm a JD man but, can see Kubota is coming on strong.
I debated a long time between the 2025r and the B2601 for my 5 acres. Ended up going with the 2025r, and I don't regret it. Two of my close neighbors went with B2601s (also on 5 acres) and they like them too. Great tractors that easily clear snow and perform basic duties around the property.
As always, an excellent comparison, Courtney. For someone in the market for a tractor, your hard work on these "let's compare" videos should help. Are you gonna give your new little friend a name? LoL
Haha, our little buddy there was acting quite strange. Kept coming up to us. Have a nice weekend Belinda :)
@@GoodWorksTractors cute little creatures, amazing how much damage they can do to under hood wiring....
Wasn’t expecting the shots at 2:49 damn near spilled coffee all over 😂
Nice side by side comparison. I would like to see you do this with a 50 hp. model. I have a MX5200. I'm certain I chose wisely. It's a great machine
I've had 4 Kubotas. 3 tractors and one excavator. Never had one of the Kubotas back to the dealer for repairs. The only thing I can say about the green ones is they cost more.
Nobody mentions the propriety hold JD has on their machines,, you never own the software,, they do, read the small print... If you have any problem with their software driven repair analysis you have no choice but to call JD...
Thank you for this. I went with the 2025r just because I hate the treddle peddle. But I do wish it had a better lift capacity on the loader.
My 2025R lifts a full bucket of stone with dust but I have tried to lift too much with forks. I too like 2 peddles. I looked at the large frame 2 series but they would not fit inside my trailer. I am now trying to sell my trailer and should have gotten a 2032R or 2038R.
The 220r loader is a better fit for a 2 series and more comparable to the loaders he showed on the kubota tractors
I have the smaller BX1810 on my hobby farm up here in Canada with a 48 inch deck so I can go between a lot of trees , the loader is a little weak but it works out , I would buy it again ,
Great video!
I have a Kubota BX25 since 2011, bought brand new. The thing that I don’t like is the parking brake, it is a safety issue in my view.
To slow down the tractor I use the reverse pedal. I wonder about JD one…..
I think part of a good comparison is age/hours/price to determine if some of the feature differences are worth the value. In this comparison John Deere fell a little short although not horrible, but if the JD fell short on features and was way more expensive, then there is no comparison, Kubota for the win. However, if JD was much cheaper then we might be able to concede some features for the value to make it worth our while.
"John Deere" and "cheap" are two words that don't go in the same sentence.
I made the foundry tooling for the Pats quick hitch😁
Very cool!
It's easy enough to find it elsewhere but turning radius would be helpful information.
Great video as usual!
I bought a B2601 a couple years back with a belly mower, loader with quick attach bucket, and grapple. I went with B2601 over B2650 for the maneuverability of the smaller size while mowing I have been amazed with its capabilities and love the tractor. The grapple works great and has saved my back. I also have a L3800HST. One great improvement on B2601 over L3800 is putting brakes on left side This allows quickly putting on brakes while maneuvering close to something. This is especially helpful on a hill. Great video by the way.
Thx. for this 2025R vs. B2601 comparison (I was one who requested it:)) & have basically narrowed my decision to these two and am really torn. The B2650 is probably a different class w/capabilities since is a bigger frame & more in line w/a 2032R. A B3350 or LX 3350 vs. 2032R would be a great comparison (both too big for my application). I believe other than PTO HP the B2650 & 3350 have the same capabilities.
Four things off hand that you didn't mention that would be useful:
1) Turning radius comp. between the B2601 & 2025R? Esp. since same wheelbase & track (Deere's spec. sheet is rather lacking). I suspect the 2025R will be significantly better b/c of their steering geometry (steering linkage behind the axle or as referred to in big trucks "rear steer"). Kubota does however have a split brake on the B2601 whereas the 2025R doesn't but on turf that's not so significant although still a notable feature.
2) Does the 2025R have position control on the 3 pt. Hitch? Deere's spec. sheet doesn't indicate.
3) I believe the Kubota's BH on the B2601 has significantly deeper (12"?) Digging capability.
4) I believe Kubota offers more/better hydraulic options, especially on the rear (both I believe offer a factory 3rd function hydraulic option for the front).
One thing to point out on the Kubota is that since the skid steer quick attach is optional, it takes away from the loader's rated capacity. I've come to appreciate Deere's "proprietary" design for it's weight savings. Tim does a great vid. comparison. Still surprised to see how much more rated capacity the B2601 has and the extra 3" of height sure is nice. Again, Deere's spec. sheet is pretty lacking.
To answer two points you raised:
1) The B2401 (same D1105 engine as the B2601 but less HP - Not sure whether de-rated or just rated using different methods) is the gear drive model and is slightly de-spec'd with respect to features (no tilt/cruise/armrests/?). I am going to test drive one just to be sure. My heart wants a gear drive but my head says HST.
2) The B2650 step will bolt onto a B2601 (mounting holes are already present) but will not work w/a mower deck installed. Maybe the step risers can be shortened but Kubota should step up (no pun intended) and make the correct/shorter step to clear the mower deck. It's a very common complaint
If Deere (maybe someone from Deere reads these) had a 3sp. & the better swing arms (pathetic on a high end machine to have turnbuckles) my choice would already be made. I assume w/a Quick hitch it doesn't matter as you only have to set them one time? Deere owners don't complain about the 2-sp. but Kubota owners ALL rave about the 3-sp.
Deere's mower deck attaching & (optional) lift brackets are (very) compelling reasons to go w/a 2025R. I have yet to drive a treadle pedal but will be doing so next week (my local Kubota dealer didn't offer me the opportunity so I'm going to drive up to Messick's). People seem to say you'll get used to whichever and I tend to agree but having driven the Deere, so far prefer their system. Lights can be added to a B2601 but Kubota should include (there is an optional ROPS forward & rear lighting kit avail.). The single point hydraulic connector is apparently standard on the B2601 (and now optional on the 2032/2038R) but not even avail. as option (short of buying/installing through Deere Parts) on the 2025R. Again (common theme) Deere's literature is awful.
The fuel fill on the Deere is another compelling reason to go green although again, on a premium tractor, the gauge should be on the dash like the Kubota. I could see spilled fuel on the hood of the Kubota and speaking of hoods, the plastic Deere hood is another compelling reason to go green. As you've pointed out, every Kubota has dents in the hood and the paint looks oxidized whereas the plastic hoods seem to clean up/buff out much better.
What it comes down to for me is that Deere seems to excel in convenience/appearance features (exception being the single point hydraulic connector) w/the 2025R but the B2601 has more "real tractor" features. Decisions, decisions...
Kubota also has VERY attractive financing on the B2301/2601 through 12/30/20. 84 mo., Zero down, zero payments for 90 days & $600 off on the B2601 plus $700 off on 2 implements.
I have a 2025r and love it. Best thing I have ever bought.
I have a BX2380 and love it. Best thing I have ever bought.
I have owned both 1025 r and b2301 both are good but the Deere just out worked it.
@@jaycooper1826 Interesting being that the JD is a subcompact & the Kubota is a compact.
@@danielsharon524 the Deere was just smoother and quicker
Great comparison video!
Thank you for the comparison
I dont even own property or need a tractor/loader. Not sure why this was in my utube recommendation , but I find it interesting. I take this as a sign to go out and buy some property so I can buy a tractor. Thanks
Maybe your name caused it to be recommended (John Deere)
@@MrMarkguth Funny you mention that. I am actually related to the people who started John Deer tractors. Never saw a royalty check thou.
@@johnd4348 that’s awesome, I did my apprenticeship at a John deer dealership in Australia 🇦🇺, I pretty much bleed green, although I’ve just started working at the case dealership, I must be honest I’d rather be working on the green
Great video. No wasted time talking about extraneous BS.
I've owned a Kubota Z726 for 2 years and love it.
Great video!
Reserved a Kioti ck2610 cant wait to play with it!
About 30 years ago, I was a partner on a banana farm. I told my partners that the Kubotas were better tractors, but they were dyed in the wool JD users. Finally we set up a spreadsheet of features both desirable and not so much. The Kubota 5030 and 8030 vs the JD 1040 and 1640. The Kubotas won by such a wide margin, my partners demanded a recount! Last time I was up that way, those 2 Kubotas were still going strong. What really swayed me was the ease of lubrication. The JD's were such a pain, people wouldn't do it, and on a banana farm, that's death for the drive train.
Great information. Thanks.
thank you for your time and expertise
I went with the Yanmar 324 because of the warranty and the 1200lb loader capacity. Really you cant go wrong with any of these tractors these days.
I'm thinking about the 424 with a cab, how do you like the 324?
@@madurosfinancialadvisor1360 Absolutely love the tractor i think they are the best value in their segment and its not trash like the Korean and Chinese made tractors. You might know this but the 324 and 424 are identical only difference is tire size. I highly recommend tire ballast for traction and stability.
@@thatdamguy00 Thank you so much. Yes I don't know why they don't offer the 324 with a cab option. It doesn't make sense. I'd love the smaller tire option, probably fit in the chicken houses. Only need a couple inches.
You convinced me to buy it-----a Johnbota tractor!"
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Been using a 2025R with a backhoe... I'm a total noob... it was very easy to learn on my own.
A friend as the equivalent Kubota. I may get to use that later this year.
yes the step from b2650 will fit the b2601 but if you have a midmount mower clearance becomes the issue between the bottom of step and top of mower deck when raised up.
Interesting...wonder why no one else has mentioned that? Thanks for sharing!
You can add a skid steer compatible quick attach to your pinned bucket tractor/bucket if you are a handy person.
Correct.
Have a 4130 JD which would compare well in size with these Kubotas. The yanmar engine starts so good in really cold temps. Really miss JD not having this size tractor anymore. I bought it new about 20 years ago and it has most of the features of all these tractors except the drive over deck. The deck is the same width as the rear wheels and I leave it on year around including the rear blower. Front blowers are nice but I would miss the bucket for scraping the driveway with downforce and getting out of a stuck situation.
Thanks for the help, it was useful information about which tractor to purchase.
It might not be a thing with the smaller tractors, but is right to repair a thing with you guys. I know some of the larger farm equipment with computers running everything is making it hard for farmers.
Went to JD to buy a tractor, the dealer didn't take me seriously, so I bought a kabota . No regrets !
Yeah We didnt buy a JD because you cant get a universal front quick attach for it only the "special" JD one that of course only JD attachments fit
I'm a lawncare, bush hog and dirtwork contractor. I have a ZD326, ZD331, L5760, KX071 excavator and before that I have owned 3 BX tractors, 1 B tractor, and an older 2wd L series. All this since 2013 as my business grew. I got pissed at kubota and went to a JD dealership about 5 years ago. They wouldn't talk to me or even offer help. After standing for 30 minutes. I left and went back to Kubota. I am actually grateful for their stuck up attitude. Way to screw yourself out of about 100 grand worth of business.
@@ericeckler8445 No way really? wow kinda makes me more happy didnt get a JD im suprised it was like that I have never gone to a dealer for any brand before and not had someone start talking to me and helping me out within like 5 minutes of walking in.
True story. Heritage farm and lawn Joplin Missouri. I I was there about 30 minutes in the showroom getting on different tractors checking out different mowers. There was three guys behind the counter sitting at a computer doing nothing two more in offices sitting at a computer doing nothing and two salesmen sitting at a table in an office talking to each other. I went to the parts service counter because they were the nearest and asked for some help, he replied somebody will be with you shortly. I waited another 15 minutes and said screw it and left.
@@ericeckler8445 wow yeah defintly avoid that place at all costs.... crazy.....
What about the cost of ownership? Are there any notable differences in routine repair expenses, and frequency of non-routine repairs between the two brands?
I have owned, and still do, a B2410 since 2001. In all that time I think I spent $125 or less in non maintenance items. Bent a hood prop being stupid, had some rust seize a lever for the 3pt and bent a rod, and replaced the seals for the front axles where they pivot for steering. Battery lasted 16 years. This year I had to replace the fuel cap and hood latch release due to age cracking. It has been so reliable that I ordered an L4060 HSTC to join it on the farm.
This is a very good comparison. If you live anywhere around I 75 Ag-Pro has bought all the John Deere dealers from Florida to the Great Lakes and the service is substandard to say the least. If you depend on your equipment service is important. Fortunately both tractors are Kubota but a zero turn and gator isn't yet. Just something to be aware of if you live on the east cost.
Love you channel. Recently watched your comparisons of series 1 John Deere V Kubota. You brought up a question about a step for the B2601. Just for your viewers the B2601 uses the same step as the B2650, just does not come standard on the B2601, bolt holes already on the B2601. When going to dealer to get step at parts it doesn’t show a step to order for the B2601 but if the parts department puts in B2650 you can order the step for the left side. The B2650 can have a step for both sides but the B2601 only equipped with bolt holes for left side and uses the same step as the B2650. Hope this helps.
The main issue not mentioned is which company will support policies cater for their customers the best. Which company will supply parts and services to keep your tractor useable. John Deere betrayed their loyal customers by no longer supplying parts like clutch and brake parts that wear out. Forcing you to buy new expensive tractor which they quickly offer you. I was brought up with
John Deere but became disappointed when I saw I could no longer buy simple parts to keep my tractor running. Kubota however were more supportive to their customers in this regards.
My local Kubota dealer treats me very well. The few times that I have been in the local Deere dealership (they also sell Stihl chainsaws, which is the only reason I was in there) the folks in that dealership acted like they didn't have the time of day for me. I guess I am just a small-time guy, which is fine because I will drive down to the orange dealer and leave the green behind.
THIS.
the step for the 2650 will bolt right up to the 2601. i know this for sure because i put one on my 2601, the holes for installing are already there from the factory.
Sounds like there's an issue if using a mower deck though based on other comments
@@GoodWorksTractors your correct , if you are going to install a belly mower the step will have to be removed.
great comparison. thanks
Thanks for watching!
Interesting , Thank You
Great comparison between these three very popular tractors! A little extra info on the Kubota’s/ the mower deck can be pinned to the tractor while using the 3 point or even with a back hoe attached and FL attached too.
I’ve done it for quick small digging /FL work which is convenient. On the B2650 the mower is held at a good 8” above the ground when pinned. Yes I remove the mower for bigger digging projects.
Really enjoy the the videos though, good stuff! 👍
Thanks for sharing!!
Thx for that info!
@L Cee is that in the Kubota manual? How would i find out how to pin the mower?
@@gidzey4783 I believe it is but not sure if it’s in the mower manual or the tractor manual. I should have pointed out this can be done on the 2650/3350 series however, I would think on the 2601 as well. The pin mounts are located towards the front of the mower deck. They are kind of hard to see but with the deck fully raised the holes in both mounts ( mower and hanging down from tractor) should line up. I made extra long pins from electric motor bolts. They are 3/8 dia although the holes are basically 1/2”. I put a 90deg bend 3” from the hex head. Makes it easier to pin/unpin with smaller dia and long length for reach.
Hopefully this helps! 🇺🇸
Great comparison, but when going over the engine specs, add the torque ratings. Those diesel engines are impressive by themselves. I have a Kubota L2501 rated at 24.9hp, but produces over 70ft. lbs. of torque (and that's naturally aspirated).
Kabota diesel engines do not last. I see them failing all the time.
@@richardallison8745 that’s a good joke. Kubota makes excellent small Diesel engines, that’s why different companies used their engines in their applications. Bobcat used Kubota motors, etc.
@@mchuo7834 Not a joke. All of John Deere's small tractors have Yanmars. I am close friend to a tractor/heavy equipment mechanic that works on more Kabotas than any other diesel. Maybe you don't know what you are talking about. My Yanmar is 40 years old and still putting away.
@@richardallison8745 classic, Richard... "I have a close friend." My daddy's an iron worker, but that doesn't mean I know how to build a bridge! John Deeres, Kubotas, Kioti's, Massy, Case they all have solid motors. When it comes to deeres your just paying more for the name, period.
@@nickg2366 I only admit the Kabota numbers are better but the John Deere with the Yanmar will run decades longer. I have a 1978 Yanmar tractor right now and that engine is tough. I used to occasionally go to the John Deere Iron Foundry years ago and the quality control was phenomenal. Yes they have the name but the quality too. I would think Yanmar would have to meet their specs to be in their equipment. JD and Yanmar is a good fit. My friend has a bunch of broken Kabotas in his lot.
One very important thing you forgotten to mention on the loaders is REACH vs lift capacity......The more reach, the more lift capacity you will need.....This is very important for loading trucks......Grill to the front of the bucket!
Very informative and quick. Not a boring video, cant stand the slow repetitive people with videos