Crazy to see Combo go from this savage thug that everyone feared, to basically a fragile small man. Stephen Graham is one of the best actors of his generation.
I believe that he always was a small fragile man. It's just that the circumstances in his early life bring out an ugly side to him that we see in the original film. He was a product of his environment. The upbringing he had and the mistakes he made leading to him going to prison, then coming out into Thatchers England with literally no hope of anything other than becoming just another unemployment statistic. Immigration and racism drew Combo in during his incarceration, it served as something to make him feel superior and to give him a purpose in life but really it was just a facade born out of frustration and anger because of the lack of support or love in his life. Deep down the man was never a racist, he was always a good man at heart as proven in various aspects during the series.
@@jimboBFC1 I agree. He was only powerful around weaklings and people who couldnt contest him. He did redeem himself after he took the blame for the murder. But he deserved what he got for almost killing milky. But it was pointless doing it after so many years.
My suspicion is that Milky didn't expect Combo to be so remorseful. When he was, he was caught off guard, and then had to deal with the fact that he's just condemned him to death anyway. He realized he and his family were just as full of hate as Combo was in the past. Ultimately, two wrongs don't make a right. What happened was revenge, not justice.
Really well put - I think you're spot on. I remember watching this on TV years ago and thinking that Milky would have something planned as a form of retributiuon act, but I kept thinking that he wouldn't go through with it because he was a good man at heart. Even when those guys entered the cafe I kept thinking he was going to call it off at any moment.
It remember thinking the exact same. That he would call it off. Typical Shane Meadows though. He gives us the real tragedies of life full barrel and combo being took away and screaming for his life was so much more impactful and realistic than him having a happy ending. He had done too much and his past was always going to ruin what he became.
@@DRM1891 Wasn't his call to call it off at the end of the day. Like he said, his family made promises, this was their revenge not his... he just went along with it probably because he believed Combo was still as bad as he was back then.
The fact that this scene divides such opinion on here is a testament to the acting and directing in operation here. This is one of the most powerful scenes I've ever witnessed in a British drama/movie.
Dude, this is one of the most powerful scenes I've ever witnessed in anything - ever. This Is England as a whole is arguably the best piece of art ever to me. The level of emotion, drama, and realism portrayed through the actors is on another level. I've never seen anything like it. The dinner scene where Lol and Woody drop the news about Lol's dad absolutely floored me, as did the scene where Woody ran into Milky and the gang while walking with Jen. And just when I thought they couldn't do it again this scene, with Combo and Milky happened. And it devastated me. This scene is pure dread and horror and despair. Everything from Combo apologizing to Milky, to Milky's breakdown when his family took Combo away, just kills me. You can tell that even though Milky hated Combo for what he did and wanted him to suffer, that in the end, it deeply hurt him to do that to Combo. God, I can't believe something this perfect exists. I'm American and practically no one knows about This Is England over here, I can't get any of the box sets of the series because they're like only sold overseas.
Jake , I couldn't have put it better, its as you say acting of just the highest order throughout ,from the movies and carried on into the boxset series. Ive seen a lot of the behind the scenes acting and it just seems that the fact that they all got on so well off set transcends itself to these performances. This is one of the most brutal scenes ive ever seen. Somewhere in your heart you hope milky can find forgiveness ,but its the darkness in evidence here that just makes this particular scene extra special. I own the movie and the boxsets , there are numerous copies available over here on ebay. If its of any assistance I can ask how much it costs to send to the USA. This as you say is a rare work of art
I appreciate that man but the thing is, I've searched extensively all over the internet for the boxsets and film, and they are indeed available on ebay and Amazon to ship from overseas. However, there's a disclaimer on every copy of the film/boxsets saying something like "This product will not work on most DVD/Bluray players in the US". I don't know how to get around that. It seems like its region locked or something. It looks like I'd have to find copies that were manufactured over here. Do you know anything about that?
The dvds and blu rays over here in the UK are region 2 or region B, US operates region 1 or region A. Im fortunate to have an unlocked blu ray player that can play any region copies including those from the US. Dvd players are generally easier to unlock, even games consoles such as the original x box can be unlocked as far as im aware
pravstar1 Well all I have to watch dvds and blurays on is my ps4, ps3, and xbox 360. Unless those can be unlockes, looks like I'm out of luck for the time being
"I forgive you. I just hope one day you'll be able to forgive me." Man, that line delivery is just off the charts. The acting in that series was beyond incredible.
IKR it’s so much like reality and if you was getting dragged or to be killed u would react like that not just walk in thier with a smile like on all the other tv shows dude was full on crying for help and I would say he deserves it but no one deserves that
By milky not forgiving combo and not seeing past his anger he just gave away his only chance of freeing himself from his anger and finding true happiness
Try best laid plans if you havnt seen it , Steven Graham plays a petty criminal in a northern town ,drawn into a far more serious heavy/gangster type scenario its good .
Here in America, we get American History X, and it's a powerful, provocative movie...but this....this is something else. It's a masterpiece of story telling.
@@mukiwabanda2794 you didn't watch it then? or watched it while holding a porn magazine three inches from your face, he was killed by whites. stay off youtube ye moron.
I love how Combo instantly forgives Milky with no hesitation. He felt such shame and disgust at himself for what he did to him, that the feeling of betrayal doesn't even touch him. This was a painful, but brilliant scene to watch.
@@MsAkadon If only Combo thought about consequences of permanently damaging someone's life of possibly taking their life before deciding to beat Milky half to death. When you take that step you have to accept it will catch up with you, no matter how much you change. Milky's family owed combo absolutley nothing.
Yhea because once Milky says that his family, who Milky had just described to him (his 20 something cousins, uncles, aunts), stood next to his bed frame and wondered if he'd live. Combo understood that even if Milky had forgiven him, the family hadn't, I don't think it was in the hands of Milky at that point and that the men were his cousins.
And milky dealing with it after is very subtle but so telling ,they've grown up there no longer the people they were ,milky forgave him at that moment, compo was sorry about it and had grown past all that but it was to late ,its story telling and its best and very tragic
@@SilentCrayonZ well look at it this way the family could have made a deal with NF give them a traitor and in return the NF leave town and do there thing elsewhere. There’s a lot of propaganda value to be had when an extremist group gets there hands on someone who betrays them, Just look at the Mexican drug Cartel when they capture someone that messed with there business
Milky is the only one that doesn't find peace at the end of all of this. Lol comes to terms with her past, finding happiness; Woody finds happiness; Shaun finds happiness; Kelly accepts and understands what happened to Lol and even Combo, before what we can assume is his death, manages to come to peace with his past. Milky is the only one that walks away from this worse off, full of anger, pain, lies and regret.
Jesus christ people it's a film. A very good film to be fair but Just a film. Analyse yourselves as deeply as you do a work of fiction and you'll be far more efficient.
It's understandable why milky did what he Did as you cant judge someone by the colour of their skin! It's disgusting, (I know it's acting) but at the end of the day you don't say it. And not to mention the beating he got just after it, great acting and I love every second of it it really made me drop a tear.
@negativeletter nahh he knew he was gonna get killed the guys they handed him over to were skinheads from jail u cant just leave those type of groups without punishment they see "traitors" worse than who ever they hate so when he saw them he knew he was probs gonna get tortured to death
Combo is one of the most tragic characters in This Is England, they did a good job making him sympathethic as the series progressed and this seen I was scared for him, you could tell Milky felt bad but was taken over by hatred!
Agreed. The harshness of reality is especially sharp in Combo's character story. Just because he turned over a new leaf and became a broken yet determined person to make up for his past, his actions had consequences and they caught up to him in the worst way possible. While everybody else is finally free, Milky regrettably continues the vicious cycle.
Such a powerful scene. You can see that a part of Milky wants to tell them to stop. I was hoping he would come and stop them at the last second but the fact he didn't just let's the brutal realism and quality of This Is England shine.
Gives me chills the whole way through, I'd honestly go as far as to say it's possibly one of the best scenes on TV.. so much raw emotion something Shane Meadows hits the nail on the head with every time.
lawsy tv lawsy tv death he deserved to be killed? Seriously I'd understand if combo had killed milky, life for a life but combo stopped and realised his mistake and got him help, yes he probably deserved a good ass kicking but come on he didn't deserve to be killed, milky could have spoken up but he didn't, he let it happen, makes him no more better then what combo did to him
lawsy tv lawsy tv More to this than just the moral of Karma. Milky forgave him but the collateral damage done is sometimes irreversible to the ones on the sidelines. How revenge of an act can sometimes if not almost always feel as hollow as the regret of the act itself. The beating consumed their lives in different ways but consumed their lives none the less. If anything this is a great way of showing how revenge is pointless were as reconciling at least helps you to move forward. That how I see it anyway. In an ideal world we wouldn't be driven by emotion. They would of had the chat and moved forward knowing it can't be undone. But that's not the world we live in. Love this scene .
The hardest pill to swallow from this show was that Combo's life was a tragedy, through and through from start to end. The idea that someone can suffer so much right up until the day they die, never experiencing true love or happiness, depresses me and reminds me of how much work still needs to be done to fix our social issues.
Amazing. The little music montage at the end, milky knows he has to live with that for the rest of his life, but an eye for an eye and combos past came back to haunt him. What an amazing TV series. Brilliant.
Anyone notice the last time Combo smiled was when he was (what looked like for the 1st time) living a normal life, playfully scaring away a pigeon and watching it fly.
Milky standing apart at the bar shows things have come full-circle. He went from being one of the most sympathetic characters to being one of the most miserable whereas Combo went from being the most miserable character to the most sympathetic one.
Whether or not Milky was wrong here is up for debate. I'm not saying he is or not and the sadness of this scene is that it has come at a time where Combo has truly changed. But that does not erase the fact that Combo smashed Milky's head in for absolutely no reason and put his family though Hell.
I don’t think milky could have stopped it he said to combo promises were made, with who ? By who ? Milky was only a kid at the time so I doubt he would be able to say anything for it to be stopped besides it wasn’t milkys family that done anything to him they dropped him of to combos old buddies the NF
RAMMSTEIN are my fav band that he did, but combo instantly regretted it and got him to the hostpial, so while he caused his injurys, he realised what he done wrong and got him help, but that will be the pain for combo to deal with knowning what he did was wrong, but does that mean he deserves death? Milky took it too far
Such a powerful ending with a strong message. Forgive, but don’t forget and make peace. Otherwise you yourself will never be at peace. Because life really is too short to hold onto anger, and bitterness. Milky thought killing Combo would erase the anger he had inside him, but it only stopped him ever having a chance of forgiving him for what he did, letting go of that anger. That’s real power, forgiveness. Not becoming what you despised so much. Be the better person, always.
Lemon Haze 100% agreed... I wish I never watched this scene until I watched every episode of '86, '88, and '90...what a spoiler! A very powerful ending, nonetheless.
Thank you for what you've done, seriously, that's the first time i comment on UA-cam, and i'm not even English, i'm french, but that video just brought me to tears The man who created this understood many things that we need to understand too, whatever the country we are from… this is human, this is antropology, its wonderful, so thanks a lot…. love from France
@MrOllieTV The attack was clearly partly fueled by Milky's skin colour. Combo was CLEARLY introduced in the original film as a racist. Combo initiated the attack on Milky by calling him a N****r several times - watch the scene again. Combo's "excuse" for nearly killing Milky is completely irrelevant and you know it. He had this coming and he damn well knew it. Please stop trying to be deliberately contrary.
Green Flame absolutely! I hear what you are all saying in these comments but at the end of the day, Green Flame got it spot on with this! ‘2 wrongs don’t make a right’
Its Combas acceptance for that makes sense. I did something similar to a friend of mine because he stole something out my house. We were friends, at that point, 17 years gone. After what I did to him, the coppers came and arrested me for GBH (Grievous Bodily Harm). The drive to the station, I sat there remembering everything, my life, my friend, my stupidity. When they told me what I done, I wept in the interview, showing me pictures, everything. It was over nothing, but I learned then that honestly, violence is not an answer. I would say that at 20 years old, at that point, I was similar to combo. And it took that awful and stupid thing to make me realise that it truly does take more of a man to let shit go and walk away. I learned a lesson, I never got a prison sentence, I was lucky, my former mate recovered, when he was home, about 8 months after, it was his birthday. The day before, I went round to the house, faced his family and apologised to them all, and himself. They were silent, I handed him his card and said "av a good one" and walked away. I never heard from any of them or him, ever again. I don't seek forgiveness, I did what was right and he's living life and happy, as am I. This just reminds me of it, and if someone reading this can take something away from it then great. If not, scroll on by...
snoop dogg Your original! Heres a quote for ya kid, you might get it...."a wise man speaks when he has something to say. The fool speaks because he has to say something"....
You know where that is?its Grimsby Docks My hometown is gone down hill the fishing industry has gone from 20,000 baskets of fish every morning to 200 its sad
Without doubt the most powerful piece of drama I have ever seen. Perfect writing, perfect acting. Moved me in a way I never thought possible. Just awesome.
Watched this scene a bunch of times. Combo being so happy during his first few seconds of freedom chasing the bird, was the only 30 seconds he would ever enjoy as a free man. I hated him in the movie, I wanted this revenge for Milky, but I legitimately feel bad for Combo
The theme is about forgiveness. Woody forgave Milky and Kelly forgave her family (even if they were not in the wrong). The final scene with everyone dancing whilst milky sat on his own showed that peace will eventually come if you can forgive. Great writing!!
Milky didn't forgive combo though? he could have stopped him getting killed but he didn't, how is it peace when he knows he's let those men kill combo?
Exactly this. So many of the characters had to forgive either themselves or others. Combo in the end was on his own as he couldn't do this with Combo and will have this hanging over him the rest of his life (until he can forgive himself for what he's done).
The end of Combo was really disturbing and well done. On the one hand you totally understand where Milky's family is coming from, but at the same time you almost want to cheer on Combo for turning his life around. Tragic, but you reap what you sow.
@@missingno88 I don't think milky is a snake. Maybe he is soft but I wouldn't call him a snake. You can obviously see that a part of him is wants to stand out and tell these guys to stop but than again these dudes are not normal people but gang members who already made promises to Milky's family. shitty circumstances but snake? nah...
Milky couldn’t go back once it was planned. His family were so distraught and knew Combo had to die regardless of him changing his ways. Combo even said it himself. It was evil what he did.
The power in these performances can still bring a tear to my eye no matter how many times I watch this and many other scenes from This Is England. Meadows pulled amazing work from these young actors, that despite some of them going on to greater things, they have never been able to repeat.
Honestly, gilgun has been my favourite actor ever since i saw hime portraying rudy wade in misfits. Back when i was a teenager. I was so enamoured with him i had to find everything i could that hes in which led me to this is england. . . Mans fucking amazing.
this scene broke my heart the first time i saw it and have never watched it again till now, its one of the hardest pieces of this is england to watch just soul destroying and fantastic acting from the multi talented steven graham
When i watched this on TV this whole scene had me in tears. As i though that It was great that combo got his life sorted out in the end , he was such a complicated character but i always had a feeling of empathy for him. He had a heart deep down. Then when he was screaming he didn't want to die , it just pulled at my heart strings. I always hoped there may be a chance he did live but i guess we will never know. Stephen Graham is indeed an absolute legendary actor.
The screaming and emphasis on the pain in scenes such as these, are really what sells it for me and makes it seem realer in a sense that if you were in the same situation, you'd be doing the same, because there's nothing else to do...
Life is so horrible.....we all makes mistakes,,,,some mistakes are so bad as we get older...that only our conscience eats away at us...!!!!..this is one of the most harrowing points of life that we regret.My heart breaks every time I watch this......I still watch this clip ,,over n over....and everytime I learn something about life.❤️
The producer has been so clever in the way he uses ludovico einuadi's music to enhance the drama of the scenes throughout all of the This is England's. This scene in particular is a great example. Love the film, series and both characters.
In an earlier episode, Milky was already preparing the setup. Both sides are understandable here which makes it a masterpiece. Milky was beaten to an inch of his life because Combo was jealous. While Combo did turn over a new leaf and try to right his wrongs, Milky, who already had a daughter at this point, had every right to stew in it because the man who almost murdered him was walking free again. What caught Milky off guard was that Combo really did change and he realized he was the only one stuck in the past by the end of it all.
This reminds me of what happened to one of my dad's mates. He shot someone in Jamaica and the guy was left in a wheelchair. He fled to England in the late 80's and lived here till 1997. He got found out as being an illegal entrant to the UK, because he was arrested for beating someone up who told him to "fuck off back to where you come from" for accidentally knocking over someone's drink in a pub. Within 6 months of being deported back to Jamaica, he was shot dead by the relatives of the guy who he paralysed. What I'm trying to say is that certain things live long in people's memories. What Combo did to Milky would never be forgotten by his family. Milky crying was a round about way of him forgiving him, but his family would never forget or forgive Combo because he beat Milky so badly, he could have killed him. There are certain things that are unforgivable.
@cormacrodgers4042 I didn't find that out until around 10 years ago. Something happened to someone I knew in the area, and my dad rang me up to talk to me, and it just came up in conversation.
Did anyone else get the hint/idea that Combo suffered in prison and that's what made him violent? Probably the best series I have ever seen , perfection
I think Milky realises throughout the course of their interaction that Combo is now a man who has essentially stepped outside of the monster he was and seen the error of his ways, however pier pressure and the fact the wheels had spun too far to turn back will probably leave him with the same regret that ate away at Combo all of those years. I also think Combo instinctively knew from the beginning that Milky was trying to hook him into something but it’s almost as if he imprisoned himself to what was coming out of genuine remorse. What is so interesting is that when we see big tough guys in films, we see them beaten whilst they’re still at their towering best, but Combo is a guy who’s turned himself around and is meek in comparison to how he used to be - that’s what makes this scene particularly powerful. The way Combo tried to get closer to his kidnappers in the van like some kind of childlike reliance instead of going closer to the NF extremist members who are clearly there to torture and kill him before burying him at sea is an amazing play on how bad these guys from Combo’s past were. The way he was dragged up the stairs to his demise was just spine tingling. A striking piece of artwork by Meadows and Graham. I didn’t like the original film all that much, but the series has brought it all together and propelled This is England into being a powerful masterpiece.
Ive watched this scene too many times and it still shocks me how good it is, evokes so much emotion. Shane Meadows has done such brilliant work, great cast, great writing, great direction overall. Just stunning.
The most emotional scene ever made. Every time I watch it, I want the outcome to be different. I know it will never change but I watch it through tear filled eyes over and over again.
Combo begging for his life brought me and my girlfriend to tears. My heart was in my stomach. I kinda hope he got out of it somehow. Shane Meadows has stated he wants to write more.
We all would want Combo to get out of it but that’s just not Meadow’s writing style. Actions have consequences, sometimes permanent. It would feel like a bit of a cop out to see Combo somehow survive what was almost certainly a fatal situation that Milky put him in.
@@kjragg1099 it would feel like a cop out you are right. This is England just makes me forget that I’m watching tv… I’ve not had a show made me feel so invested or connected to the characters before. I just wanna see him get his happy day 😂
@@sentientmeat8975 yeah me too. I saw the film years ago but never watched the series. A few weeks ago I had to isolate because of covid and needed something to watch so I watched the movie and all the series back to back in the space of a couple days. I loved every second of it mainly because of the amazing writing and acting. It’s just a brilliant series and was great to see how all the characters changed over the years. I was rather sad that it ended! Hopefully we’ll see a This Is England 2010 or something 😂
I just said this to someone else. That combo thought when he left the cafe with milkys mates he thought he was going somewhere for a kicking. When he see the RF members he knew who they where and knew they where there to kill him.
@@v114OG combo filled in his skinhead friend that night too so the violence wasn't exactly based on racism. Combo had demons which he battled and defeated milky could see this. Now milky has given himself a life sentence with the demons.
I've not seen past the original This is England, but after seeing this I think Im gonna have to watch the series. I like that despite Combo accepting his fate and going quietly they didn't have him walk to his end like a stoic hero but kicking and screaming and afraid, because his racist past came from him being small and afraid and despite his growth he still is just a man who has fears. A very realistic performance and portrayal of people, which is why Shane Meadows is great.
We often forget, due to the sheer brutality of Combo's crime, that he actually saved Milky's life the night he almost killed him, and very clearly had regretten what he had done directly after beating Milky. He held himself responsible throughout the rest of his life even redeeming himself by taking time for Lol. He certainly didn't deserve murder.
@@sino1213 you could say that, sure, but did he deserve to be killed? He didn't actually kill milky or anyone. Plus, by milky doing this he has let hate make him into a monster, which is exactly what combo was before. Its not justice, its revenge and it'll stay with milky forever.
the slight nods from Combo at 10:35 while the flashbacks play in his mind, acknowledging that this was always likely to be his fate after that night. Stephen Graham is another level
This scene actually broke me. Probably the deepest and saddest thing I've ever watched. Combo turned his life around, but it wasn't enough.... Heartbreaking
I don’t think the combo before feared death as much as the combo we see here. Shows that he finally started to appreciate and enjoy life and maybe also shows that people can change
The whole this is england film and series really makes you question morals and morality. I actually think that milky is more evil than combo ever was. He's cold and calculated whilst the combo is just a mess of a man that has missed out on so much. Hands down the best on screen production I've ever seen
This scene and what it captures is so true. Its out of Milky's hands. The offence was committed to his family. They suffered the hurt as well. At this point Milky can't stop it. Excellent show.Brilliant scene.
Beautifully written and incredibly acted. It truly gives a historical insight into the skinhead movement in Britain during the 70s and 80s and how it affects us today.
Masterful. He realises and admits his error but still gets the judgement that error deserved. A lot of shows would have had simply had him forgiven by the victim. The lads that take him away are pretty cool customers too and then Combo gets what's coming to him.
The moment the doors of the van open, to the crys of "I don't wants to die" to the shot panning out to the abandoned warehouse, It's was and still is when of the hardest things I've watched on TV
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Crazy to see Combo go from this savage thug that everyone feared, to basically a fragile small man. Stephen Graham is one of the best actors of his generation.
He's the best British actor I've seen.
I believe that he always was a small fragile man. It's just that the circumstances in his early life bring out an ugly side to him that we see in the original film. He was a product of his environment.
The upbringing he had and the mistakes he made leading to him going to prison, then coming out into Thatchers England with literally no hope of anything other than becoming just another unemployment statistic.
Immigration and racism drew Combo in during his incarceration, it served as something to make him feel superior and to give him a purpose in life but really it was just a facade born out of frustration and anger because of the lack of support or love in his life. Deep down the man was never a racist, he was always a good man at heart as proven in various aspects during the series.
@@jimboBFC1 I agree. He was only powerful around weaklings and people who couldnt contest him. He did redeem himself after he took the blame for the murder. But he deserved what he got for almost killing milky. But it was pointless doing it after so many years.
Most underrated actor ever
@@jimboBFC1 I think you were meant to send that to your professor, not the comments
Stephen Graham’s got to be one of Britain’s finest actors by far man.
>one of
>by far
eh
Top actor
Superb. Such a likeable bloke too. He should be in everything.
Defo
@@ryanalexi4446 I honestly think he is one of the best actors in world...Not just in uk...!! He should be international star!!!
My suspicion is that Milky didn't expect Combo to be so remorseful. When he was, he was caught off guard, and then had to deal with the fact that he's just condemned him to death anyway. He realized he and his family were just as full of hate as Combo was in the past. Ultimately, two wrongs don't make a right. What happened was revenge, not justice.
Really well put - I think you're spot on.
I remember watching this on TV years ago and thinking that Milky would have something planned as a form of retributiuon act, but I kept thinking that he wouldn't go through with it because he was a good man at heart.
Even when those guys entered the cafe I kept thinking he was going to call it off at any moment.
It remember thinking the exact same. That he would call it off. Typical Shane Meadows though. He gives us the real tragedies of life full barrel and combo being took away and screaming for his life was so much more impactful and realistic than him having a happy ending. He had done too much and his past was always going to ruin what he became.
Agree . That's why he looked upset at the party . Regret.
@@DRM1891 Wasn't his call to call it off at the end of the day. Like he said, his family made promises, this was their revenge not his... he just went along with it probably because he believed Combo was still as bad as he was back then.
@@FurryWulfz true enough! Perhaps if it was down to just Milky himself, he wouldn’t have gone through with it. Impactive ending either way!
Stephen Graham is such an incredible actor
Tom Batterbury a fine ...fine actor
slenjamiah is this scene from the movie or series, if series which one?
K Mahmood it's from the series this is England '90, but I won't say which episode so I don't spoil it
And if you are just starting to watch them I would 100% recommend watching them in order
Tom Batterbury Couldn't agree more with you
The fact that this scene divides such opinion on here is a testament to the acting and directing in operation here. This is one of the most powerful scenes I've ever witnessed in a British drama/movie.
Dude, this is one of the most powerful scenes I've ever witnessed in anything - ever. This Is England as a whole is arguably the best piece of art ever to me. The level of emotion, drama, and realism portrayed through the actors is on another level. I've never seen anything like it. The dinner scene where Lol and Woody drop the news about Lol's dad absolutely floored me, as did the scene where Woody ran into Milky and the gang while walking with Jen. And just when I thought they couldn't do it again this scene, with Combo and Milky happened. And it devastated me. This scene is pure dread and horror and despair. Everything from Combo apologizing to Milky, to Milky's breakdown when his family took Combo away, just kills me. You can tell that even though Milky hated Combo for what he did and wanted him to suffer, that in the end, it deeply hurt him to do that to Combo.
God, I can't believe something this perfect exists. I'm American and practically no one knows about This Is England over here, I can't get any of the box sets of the series because they're like only sold overseas.
Jake , I couldn't have put it better, its as you say acting of just the highest order throughout ,from the movies and carried on into the boxset series.
Ive seen a lot of the behind the scenes acting and it just seems that the fact that they all got on so well off set transcends itself to these performances.
This is one of the most brutal scenes ive ever seen. Somewhere in your heart you hope milky can find forgiveness ,but its the darkness in evidence here that just makes this particular scene extra special. I own the movie and the boxsets , there are numerous copies available over here on ebay. If its of any assistance I can ask how much it costs to send to the USA. This as you say is a rare work of art
I appreciate that man but the thing is, I've searched extensively all over the internet for the boxsets and film, and they are indeed available on ebay and Amazon to ship from overseas. However, there's a disclaimer on every copy of the film/boxsets saying something like "This product will not work on most DVD/Bluray players in the US". I don't know how to get around that. It seems like its region locked or something. It looks like I'd have to find copies that were manufactured over here. Do you know anything about that?
The dvds and blu rays over here in the UK are region 2 or region B, US operates region 1 or region A. Im fortunate to have an unlocked blu ray player that can play any region copies including those from the US. Dvd players are generally easier to unlock, even games consoles such as the original x box can be unlocked as far as im aware
pravstar1
Well all I have to watch dvds and blurays on is my ps4, ps3, and xbox 360. Unless those can be unlockes, looks like I'm out of luck for the time being
"I forgive you. I just hope one day you'll be able to forgive me." Man, that line delivery is just off the charts. The acting in that series was beyond incredible.
"I forgive you. I just hope one day you'll be able to forgive me".
Spine tingling stuff
@UKSKIDS you try amd forget and forgive when your face has those scars.
@@juandef4115 I'm black as well and I may not have been beat up but it is hard being different but killing a man don't make u any better
stewboy and friends well said
@@krazyklown0632 Who says you have to be better? Milky may have forgiven Combo- but his family didn't. A promise is a promise.
No show or film has had more of an impact on me than the harsh reality of this is England.
IKR it’s so much like reality and if you was getting dragged or to be killed u would react like that not just walk in thier with a smile like on all the other tv shows dude was full on crying for help and I would say he deserves it but no one deserves that
Sopranos did
It's just brilliant
American History X made an impact on me as well
And its so legit , no movie glamour of over to top fakeness.
By milky not forgiving combo and not seeing past his anger he just gave away his only chance of freeing himself from his anger and finding true happiness
Real tear jerker made my sticker wiggle a bit
I think if Milky could’ve, he would’ve changed his mind. but once those guys walked in after them there was no going back.
@@seF40CGT they were his relatives he said he had loads of cousins etc, they wanted the revenge from seeing what combo done to him
@@seF40CGT Milky could of stopped it but he didn't . I'm sure he regretted this at Lols wedding party . Written all over his face.
@@coldtex9324 Yep, he'll live with that guilt for the rest of his life. & guilt destroys you more than anything over time.
Forget about Hollywood superstars...this is acting..one of the best films ever.
Haven't you watched American history x
Shahid Ali American History X is great, but it doesn’t have a patch on This Is England.
@Nåmêlëśš Sîñčė Ëxìśtëńčê no it doesnt. this movie is top 5. american history x is just 1 of the so many movies
Scum ,needle and ill manors are as brutal/gritty/real as this , older English drama ill manors is about the same time but set in that time .
Stephen Graham is a Hollywood superstar. And rightfully so
I think the main thing to take away from this, is what a criminally underrated actor Stephen Graham is.
Have you seen him in best laid plans its as good as this .
jameslfc11 Scorsese rates him just right
@@Sunnysideview69 that accent, though...bloody awful
He's not criminally underrated...we fucking love him.
He's a legend
Let’s not forget how beautiful that piano ballad is at the end.
Ludovico Einaudi - Berlin Song. Lovely composition
The way combo begs for his life is just haunting. Amazing actor.
Try best laid plans if you havnt seen it , Steven Graham plays a petty criminal in a northern town ,drawn into a far more serious heavy/gangster type scenario its good .
@@eckeynecker what streaming service is it on?
@@richardkeegan6641 He's talking about a completely different movie. Read above
I honestly don't get why the director and writer doesn't do anything anymore....
the movie and the show in 3 parts is just brilliant.
It's was honestly satisfying I would like too see what happens too him
Here in America, we get American History X, and it's a powerful, provocative movie...but this....this is something else. It's a masterpiece of story telling.
Have you seen the full film and following series’s pal?
Both end with white racists being proven right as they're murdered by black immigrants.
@@mukiwabanda2794 Combo met his end in the hands of white men
Mukiwa Banda not immigrants
@@mukiwabanda2794 you didn't watch it then? or watched it while holding a porn magazine three inches from your face, he was killed by whites. stay off youtube ye moron.
Absolutely amazing how you go from Hating Combo in the film to being absolutely heartbroken by this scene. Storytelling at its absolute best.
I love how Combo instantly forgives Milky with no hesitation. He felt such shame and disgust at himself for what he did to him, that the feeling of betrayal doesn't even touch him. This was a painful, but brilliant scene to watch.
cause he had time to ponder over it however millky thought he cane to ruin his life
@@MsAkadon If only Combo thought about consequences of permanently damaging someone's life of possibly taking their life before deciding to beat Milky half to death. When you take that step you have to accept it will catch up with you, no matter how much you change. Milky's family owed combo absolutley nothing.
Yhea because once Milky says that his family, who Milky had just described to him (his 20 something cousins, uncles, aunts), stood next to his bed frame and wondered if he'd live. Combo understood that even if Milky had forgiven him, the family hadn't, I don't think it was in the hands of Milky at that point and that the men were his cousins.
There is a quote the world says "You Can Forgive & Accept But You'll Never Forget"
And milky dealing with it after is very subtle but so telling ,they've grown up there no longer the people they were ,milky forgave him at that moment, compo was sorry about it and had grown past all that but it was to late ,its story telling and its best and very tragic
Sometimes I forget they are characters bring played by actors
That's the whole point of movies and TV shows.
Sign of an excellent movie/show with great actors
Fantastic acting, everyone seemed totally believable and had great chemistry together.
Thats good acting for you .
it was based on a true story
The way he was begging for his life as they went up the stairs felt so genuine and creepy
Combo knew the two killers by reputation and that they were wouldnt make it quick
@@gregbradshaw7220those were the same guys at the NF meeting in the original movie
@@gregbradshaw7220so we’re led to believe he was tortured?
@@SlickAndroid17why would they be working with Milkys family
@@SilentCrayonZ well look at it this way the family could have made a deal with NF give them a traitor and in return the NF leave town and do there thing elsewhere. There’s a lot of propaganda value to be had when an extremist group gets there hands on someone who betrays them, Just look at the Mexican drug Cartel when they capture someone that messed with there business
Milky is the only one that doesn't find peace at the end of all of this. Lol comes to terms with her past, finding happiness; Woody finds happiness; Shaun finds happiness; Kelly accepts and understands what happened to Lol and even Combo, before what we can assume is his death, manages to come to peace with his past. Milky is the only one that walks away from this worse off, full of anger, pain, lies and regret.
Spot on.
I'm sure he'll get over it once he remembers what a dick Combo was.
@@Fireglo Yeah WAS. Combo truly changed. And he should be killed cuse he was a dick in the past? Nice logic. Poor milky got a beating!
@@theblackbull55 would you be this defensive to a reformed pedophile?
Jesus christ people it's a film. A very good film to be fair but Just a film. Analyse yourselves as deeply as you do a work of fiction and you'll be far more efficient.
It's pretty hard to not tear up after Combo forgives milky but still hopes milky will forgive him when he knows what's going to happen.
@@padz7215 for murdering him it quite easy to understand
@negativeletter I've always wondered who they were who takes him, are they former skin heads who combo had a falling out with?
@@Klynch111 they are NF members the group combo left you can never just leave those sorts of hate groups
It's understandable why milky did what he Did as you cant judge someone by the colour of their skin! It's disgusting, (I know it's acting) but at the end of the day you don't say it. And not to mention the beating he got just after it, great acting and I love every second of it it really made me drop a tear.
@negativeletter nahh he knew he was gonna get killed the guys they handed him over to were skinheads from jail u cant just leave those type of groups without punishment they see "traitors" worse than who ever they hate so when he saw them he knew he was probs gonna get tortured to death
Combo is one of the most tragic characters in This Is England, they did a good job making him sympathethic as the series progressed and this seen I was scared for him, you could tell Milky felt bad but was taken over by hatred!
That is the great irony of this scene. Milky became everything Combo used to be, filled with hate and rage.
Agreed. The harshness of reality is especially sharp in Combo's character story. Just because he turned over a new leaf and became a broken yet determined person to make up for his past, his actions had consequences and they caught up to him in the worst way possible. While everybody else is finally free, Milky regrettably continues the vicious cycle.
Such a powerful scene. You can see that a part of Milky wants to tell them to stop. I was hoping he would come and stop them at the last second but the fact he didn't just let's the brutal realism and quality of This Is England shine.
Gives me chills the whole way through, I'd honestly go as far as to say it's possibly one of the best scenes on TV.. so much raw emotion something Shane Meadows hits the nail on the head with every time.
I genuinely thought they were gonna talk "man to man" like Milky said. Then I thought Milky was gonna tell them to stop.
Terrible Tanner combo deserved what he got.treat people how u want to be treated what goes around comes around
lawsy tv lawsy tv death he deserved to be killed? Seriously I'd understand if combo had killed milky, life for a life but combo stopped and realised his mistake and got him help, yes he probably deserved a good ass kicking but come on he didn't deserve to be killed, milky could have spoken up but he didn't, he let it happen, makes him no more better then what combo did to him
lawsy tv lawsy tv More to this than just the moral of Karma. Milky forgave him but the collateral damage done is sometimes irreversible to the ones on the sidelines. How revenge of an act can sometimes if not almost always feel as hollow as the regret of the act itself. The beating consumed their lives in different ways but consumed their lives none the less. If anything this is a great way of showing how revenge is pointless were as reconciling at least helps you to move forward. That how I see it anyway. In an ideal world we wouldn't be driven by emotion. They would of had the chat and moved forward knowing it can't be undone. But that's not the world we live in. Love this scene .
The hardest pill to swallow from this show was that Combo's life was a tragedy, through and through from start to end. The idea that someone can suffer so much right up until the day they die, never experiencing true love or happiness, depresses me and reminds me of how much work still needs to be done to fix our social issues.
He really wanted to change
great comment
So much empathy for a devil.
@@nabeelkhan4255 a former devil. You clearly don't believe in forgiveness.
@@nabeelkhan4255 Right?
Amazing. The little music montage at the end, milky knows he has to live with that for the rest of his life, but an eye for an eye and combos past came back to haunt him. What an amazing TV series. Brilliant.
If it really was an eye for an eye then combo would of been beaten badly but not killed.
most underrated actor in the world Stephan graham, love his work
Underrated how?? He played al capone in broad walk empire. He's a huge star mate
@@ussy0987654321 He's barely huge. Tell me how many mainstream movies in the last few years where he's played one of the main characters.
DeLastDon he’s underrated by his amazing performances not leading to bigger roles he should be involved in
Best laid plans is good .
@@FranticAnimations snatch. Public enemies
how they make Stephen graham so scary in the film as a skinhead then so small and sad as a older man brilliant one of the best series ever
I have seen many films in my 44 years. This scene has to be the best thing I have ever seen. The acting is 100%
Oh, the Brits. They definetly know a secret sauce of composing a drama
Alexey Kaplin we keep it beneath our top hats 😉
This isn't really drama this is England and accurate.
Alexey Kaplin British life is tough.
Elton Smith and just below the “stiff upper lip”
We understand misery.
Who else would've never believed they'd end up hating Milky and feeling sorry for Combo after watching the film the first time?
thats why this series is so brilliant. shane meadows is a genius
Why feel sorry for Combo? Did you not see the 2006 movie?
Hamza Khaliq Did you not see the Tv series?
Anthony Aman genius writing. They need to make another series.
Because he fucked up big time and in the end had redeemed himself when taking the blame for Kellys dad's murder.
"What kind of a man does that make me?" That line and his delivery chokes me up.
Anyone notice the last time Combo smiled was when he was (what looked like for the 1st time) living a normal life, playfully scaring away a pigeon and watching it fly.
That's the saddest part. He looks so happy, and it only lasts for a second
Didn't notice but now you mention it..
Cruel to scare the Pigeon, though. Fuck that.
Milky should have stopped them
@@TheTaterTotP80 no it's not
i’m in tears, this scene is beyond the most powerful thing i’ve ever watched.
yeah this film is epic.
@@thaistomp I mean this is the last episode of the series but the film is mint
Milky standing apart at the bar shows things have come full-circle. He went from being one of the most sympathetic characters to being one of the most miserable whereas Combo went from being the most miserable character to the most sympathetic one.
You whiten guys always sympathise with your fellow racist white fellows.
Thats good writing by the show creators
I had huge respect for combo here. he's turned his life around. milky knows what he did was wrong. people can change.
Stephen Curtin Same, man
Well he did almost kill him tbf
Whether or not Milky was wrong here is up for debate. I'm not saying he is or not and the sadness of this scene is that it has come at a time where Combo has truly changed. But that does not erase the fact that Combo smashed Milky's head in for absolutely no reason and put his family though Hell.
I don’t think milky could have stopped it he said to combo promises were made, with who ? By who ? Milky was only a kid at the time so I doubt he would be able to say anything for it to be stopped besides it wasn’t milkys family that done anything to him they dropped him of to combos old buddies the NF
RAMMSTEIN are my fav band that he did, but combo instantly regretted it and got him to the hostpial, so while he caused his injurys, he realised what he done wrong and got him help, but that will be the pain for combo to deal with knowning what he did was wrong, but does that mean he deserves death? Milky took it too far
Such a powerful ending with a strong message. Forgive, but don’t forget and make peace. Otherwise you yourself will never be at peace. Because life really is too short to hold onto anger, and bitterness. Milky thought killing Combo would erase the anger he had inside him, but it only stopped him ever having a chance of forgiving him for what he did, letting go of that anger. That’s real power, forgiveness. Not becoming what you despised so much. Be the better person, always.
But only because he was sorry.
I've wasted thousands of my days in bitterness and hate, and it profited me none.
Lemon Haze so right
Lemon Haze
100% agreed...
I wish I never watched this scene until I watched every episode of '86, '88, and '90...what a spoiler! A very powerful ending, nonetheless.
Well said.
So gritty and raw, pure emotion interspersed with comical moments. One of the best pieces of TV I've seen
Thank you for what you've done, seriously, that's the first time i comment on UA-cam, and i'm not even English, i'm french, but that video just brought me to tears
The man who created this understood many things that we need to understand too, whatever the country we are from… this is human, this is antropology, its wonderful, so thanks a lot…. love from France
moral of story.
2 wrongs dont make a right
Green Flame dont put people in intensive for no reason also
or you can never escape your past especially if you have one drenched in blood
@MrOllieTV You're actually trying to excuse what Combo did. He nearly killed Milky just on account of his skin colour. He had this coming - end of.
@MrOllieTV The attack was clearly partly fueled by Milky's skin colour. Combo was CLEARLY introduced in the original film as a racist. Combo initiated the attack on Milky by calling him a N****r several times - watch the scene again. Combo's "excuse" for nearly killing Milky is completely irrelevant and you know it. He had this coming and he damn well knew it. Please stop trying to be deliberately contrary.
Green Flame absolutely! I hear what you are all saying in these comments but at the end of the day, Green Flame got it spot on with this! ‘2 wrongs don’t make a right’
Combo when he gets out of the van being scared really got me.
Proves his point, doesn’t it?
Its Combas acceptance for that makes sense. I did something similar to a friend of mine because he stole something out my house. We were friends, at that point, 17 years gone. After what I did to him, the coppers came and arrested me for GBH (Grievous Bodily Harm). The drive to the station, I sat there remembering everything, my life, my friend, my stupidity. When they told me what I done, I wept in the interview, showing me pictures, everything. It was over nothing, but I learned then that honestly, violence is not an answer. I would say that at 20 years old, at that point, I was similar to combo. And it took that awful and stupid thing to make me realise that it truly does take more of a man to let shit go and walk away. I learned a lesson, I never got a prison sentence, I was lucky, my former mate recovered, when he was home, about 8 months after, it was his birthday. The day before, I went round to the house, faced his family and apologised to them all, and himself. They were silent, I handed him his card and said "av a good one" and walked away. I never heard from any of them or him, ever again. I don't seek forgiveness, I did what was right and he's living life and happy, as am I. This just reminds me of it, and if someone reading this can take something away from it then great. If not, scroll on by...
Shut up. No1 wants ur life story.
snoop dogg Your original! Heres a quote for ya kid, you might get it...."a wise man speaks when he has something to say. The fool speaks because he has to say something"....
You know where that is?its Grimsby Docks My hometown is gone down hill the fishing industry has gone from 20,000 baskets of fish every morning to 200 its sad
That is this country in a nutshell sadly, dreadful.
What a load of shite
"It was despicable. It was evil."
It was *cowardly,* and somehow I feel like he knew that was the perfect word.
Milky well and truly held his own in this scene. That emotion from him seems so genuine.
Yeah but imagine how big the dongs are on those big black guys !
Without doubt the most powerful piece of drama I have ever seen. Perfect writing, perfect acting. Moved me in a way I never thought possible. Just awesome.
Why can't everyone just be like woody
G Man ik
Exactly u get what i mean
Woody was such a forgiving guy
GCS cuz he almost kills milky
It was combo sry
The way he says “I know, you were a boy…”. The weight in that one line is incredible
Watched this scene a bunch of times. Combo being so happy during his first few seconds of freedom chasing the bird, was the only 30 seconds he would ever enjoy as a free man. I hated him in the movie, I wanted this revenge for Milky, but I legitimately feel bad for Combo
its propaganda . . . . . .for immigrants .. . .
@@krishnan-resurrection714watch the full thing. Race is less a part of it
@@SoSo-li6dn KALERGI PLAN PROPAGANDA . . . ..
The theme is about forgiveness. Woody forgave Milky and Kelly forgave her family (even if they were not in the wrong). The final scene with everyone dancing whilst milky sat on his own showed that peace will eventually come if you can forgive. Great writing!!
thats deep shit. never looked at it that way. thumbs up indeed
Even combo forgiven milky
Epic, best comment ever!
Milky didn't forgive combo though? he could have stopped him getting killed but he didn't, how is it peace when he knows he's let those men kill combo?
Exactly this. So many of the characters had to forgive either themselves or others. Combo in the end was on his own as he couldn't do this with Combo and will have this hanging over him the rest of his life (until he can forgive himself for what he's done).
The end of Combo was really disturbing and well done. On the one hand you totally understand where Milky's family is coming from, but at the same time you almost want to cheer on Combo for turning his life around. Tragic, but you reap what you sow.
ehh but the fact is combo didnt kill milky, this isnt justice at all, its cold heart revenge. milky was a snake for going through with this
@@missingno88 I don't think milky is a snake. Maybe he is soft but I wouldn't call him a snake. You can obviously see that a part of him is wants to stand out and tell these guys to stop but than again these dudes are not normal people but gang members who already made promises to Milky's family. shitty circumstances but snake? nah...
@@missingno88 YA MILKY IS THE BAD GUY HERE AND COMBO SHOULD SENSED THIS TRAP !!!!
Milky couldn’t go back once it was planned. His family were so distraught and knew Combo had to die regardless of him changing his ways. Combo even said it himself. It was evil what he did.
@@sroydetroy6404Milky is a snake. Sleeps with his best friends girlfriend and gets her pregnant.
This is enough to make a grown man cry
I feel you man that shit had me trippin out
Grown man here: confirmed; I cried like a little baby.
Real men don’t cry
@@brumav9779 combo said that in the movie
@@jacobsands6347 yep
The flashback of him saying 'im sorry' over and over again was intense as he was being taking to his death
The power in these performances can still bring a tear to my eye no matter how many times I watch this and many other scenes from This Is England. Meadows pulled amazing work from these young actors, that despite some of them going on to greater things, they have never been able to repeat.
So powerful, sometimes it even makes me cry. Eye for an Eye, makes the whole World blind.
except at the end when everyone has stolen an eye, one guy is gonna be left with one eye, so not really
and a tooth for a tooth makes the whole world gummy
If you live by the sword you die by it. Everyone will face the consequences of their actions at some stage. What you put out comes back
@@yandenditt LOL I would of loved it if you said that to Ghandi when he first said it.
and a nose for a nose leaves the whole world not smelling things and therefore somethings will taste different too.
In the uk we don’t give credit to our amazing series actors like Stephen graham or Joe Gilgun
Honestly, gilgun has been my favourite actor ever since i saw hime portraying rudy wade in misfits. Back when i was a teenager. I was so enamoured with him i had to find everything i could that hes in which led me to this is england. . . Mans fucking amazing.
Joe gilgun in brassic! Unreal
U dumb bitch their just actor's
I think we do...Stephen's been in enough shows/films.✌
I do.
I don’t think I took a single breath during this scene
Did you die?
The casting for the whole series and film are insanely perfect, for everyone
this scene broke my heart the first time i saw it and have never watched it again till now, its one of the hardest pieces of this is england to watch just soul destroying and fantastic acting from the multi talented steven graham
When i watched this on TV this whole scene had me in tears. As i though that It was great that combo got his life sorted out in the end , he was such a complicated character but i always had a feeling of empathy for him. He had a heart deep down. Then when he was screaming he didn't want to die , it just pulled at my heart strings. I always hoped there may be a chance he did live but i guess we will never know. Stephen Graham is indeed an absolute legendary actor.
The screaming and emphasis on the pain in scenes such as these, are really what sells it for me and makes it seem realer in a sense that if you were in the same situation, you'd be doing the same, because there's nothing else to do...
This is England is by far one of the best dramas/films ever made. From the story, the actors, the filming, the direction... amazing!
This is so so powerful it's unreal. The acting is top notch, Stephen Graham is one of the best actor's out there, he is so underated . Love him
Combo forgives Milky immediately when he sees the heavies come into the cafe. Powerful stuff.
guilt is powerful stuff
Every second of every episode of every series is a masterclass in acting, writing and directing 👏🏻
Life is so horrible.....we all makes mistakes,,,,some mistakes are so bad as we get older...that only our conscience eats away at us...!!!!..this is one of the most harrowing points of life that we regret.My heart breaks every time I watch this......I still watch this clip ,,over n over....and everytime I learn something about life.❤️
No TV show can live up to this in my head, set the bar so high nothing will ever come close
The producer has been so clever in the way he uses ludovico einuadi's music to enhance the drama of the scenes throughout all of the This is England's. This scene in particular is a great example. Love the film, series and both characters.
Jordan Kelly I couldn't agree more. The use of Berlin song with the wedding party scene is just heartbreakingly beautiful. I tear up every time.
What is the Ludovico Einaudi track used here?
Much appreciated.
@@JackJames2612 the track used is called Petricor
This takes meaning,Remorse,Forgiveness,Retribution,Revenge,faith ,Strength ,Loyalty and many other things to a new level.
It was clear Combo was in trouble when Milky didn't stop at the closer cafes clearly had a plan to go somewhere!
Think combo knew in the back of his head
In an earlier episode, Milky was already preparing the setup. Both sides are understandable here which makes it a masterpiece. Milky was beaten to an inch of his life because Combo was jealous. While Combo did turn over a new leaf and try to right his wrongs, Milky, who already had a daughter at this point, had every right to stew in it because the man who almost murdered him was walking free again.
What caught Milky off guard was that Combo really did change and he realized he was the only one stuck in the past by the end of it all.
Great bit of acting by Andrew and Stephen !! Much respect and moving
This reminds me of what happened to one of my dad's mates. He shot someone in Jamaica and the guy was left in a wheelchair. He fled to England in the late 80's and lived here till 1997.
He got found out as being an illegal entrant to the UK, because he was arrested for beating someone up who told him to "fuck off back to where you come from" for accidentally knocking over someone's drink in a pub.
Within 6 months of being deported back to Jamaica, he was shot dead by the relatives of the guy who he paralysed.
What I'm trying to say is that certain things live long in people's memories. What Combo did to Milky would never be forgotten by his family.
Milky crying was a round about way of him forgiving him, but his family would never forget or forgive Combo because he beat Milky so badly, he could have killed him.
There are certain things that are unforgivable.
My god lad, thats unreal. 😢
@cormacrodgers4042
I didn't find that out until around 10 years ago. Something happened to someone I knew in the area, and my dad rang me up to talk to me, and it just came up in conversation.
Did anyone else get the hint/idea that Combo suffered in prison and that's what made him violent? Probably the best series I have ever seen , perfection
I think Milky realises throughout the course of their interaction that Combo is now a man who has essentially stepped outside of the monster he was and seen the error of his ways, however pier pressure and the fact the wheels had spun too far to turn back will probably leave him with the same regret that ate away at Combo all of those years.
I also think Combo instinctively knew from the beginning that Milky was trying to hook him into something but it’s almost as if he imprisoned himself to what was coming out of genuine remorse.
What is so interesting is that when we see big tough guys in films, we see them beaten whilst they’re still at their towering best, but Combo is a guy who’s turned himself around and is meek in comparison to how he used to be - that’s what makes this scene particularly powerful.
The way Combo tried to get closer to his kidnappers in the van like some kind of childlike reliance instead of going closer to the NF extremist members who are clearly there to torture and kill him before burying him at sea is an amazing play on how bad these guys from Combo’s past were. The way he was dragged up the stairs to his demise was just spine tingling.
A striking piece of artwork by Meadows and Graham.
I didn’t like the original film all that much, but the series has brought it all together and propelled This is England into being a powerful masterpiece.
Ive watched this scene too many times and it still shocks me how good it is, evokes so much emotion. Shane Meadows has done such brilliant work, great cast, great writing, great direction overall. Just stunning.
Played to perfection. Horrific, haunting and so very real
Such a powerful piece from This is England 😢
The series is =D
The most emotional scene ever made. Every time I watch it, I want the outcome to be different. I know it will never change but I watch it through tear filled eyes over and over again.
Combo begging for his life brought me and my girlfriend to tears. My heart was in my stomach. I kinda hope he got out of it somehow. Shane Meadows has stated he wants to write more.
We all would want Combo to get out of it but that’s just not Meadow’s writing style. Actions have consequences, sometimes permanent. It would feel like a bit of a cop out to see Combo somehow survive what was almost certainly a fatal situation that Milky put him in.
@@kjragg1099 it would feel like a cop out you are right.
This is England just makes me forget that I’m watching tv… I’ve not had a show made me feel so invested or connected to the characters before. I just wanna see him get his happy day 😂
@@sentientmeat8975 yeah me too. I saw the film years ago but never watched the series. A few weeks ago I had to isolate because of covid and needed something to watch so I watched the movie and all the series back to back in the space of a couple days. I loved every second of it mainly because of the amazing writing and acting. It’s just a brilliant series and was great to see how all the characters changed over the years. I was rather sad that it ended! Hopefully we’ll see a This Is England 2010 or something 😂
@@wulfhere83 Wouldn't have worked he would have been spotted eventually by one of Milkys family who probably would have shanked him on the spot!
I just said this to someone else. That combo thought when he left the cafe with milkys mates he thought he was going somewhere for a kicking.
When he see the RF members he knew who they where and knew they where there to kill him.
"Wagwan racist"
Wagwan racist and then got him killed
@@yooyooyo9965 In retaliation not instigation. Milky hung around with the other guys before combo was released from jail.
@@v114OG combo filled in his skinhead friend that night too so the violence wasn't exactly based on racism. Combo had demons which he battled and defeated milky could see this. Now milky has given himself a life sentence with the demons.
@@redflag8970 Yes, he should have learned to also forgive. Forgiveness is underrated.
@@yooyooyo9965 more like wha gwaan.
I've not seen past the original This is England, but after seeing this I think Im gonna have to watch the series. I like that despite Combo accepting his fate and going quietly they didn't have him walk to his end like a stoic hero but kicking and screaming and afraid, because his racist past came from him being small and afraid and despite his growth he still is just a man who has fears. A very realistic performance and portrayal of people, which is why Shane Meadows is great.
Stephen Graham is one phenomenal actor.
you just dont see everyone sitting with there phones out back then, what a great time to be around in wer fkd now
I can’t express how perfect the whole series of this is England is it’s incredible and honestly so so underrated.
We often forget, due to the sheer brutality of Combo's crime, that he actually saved Milky's life the night he almost killed him, and very clearly had regretten what he had done directly after beating Milky. He held himself responsible throughout the rest of his life even redeeming himself by taking time for Lol. He certainly didn't deserve murder.
Milky got his revenge...but the price for that is the rest of his life.
His family got revenge. Milky had no say in the matter
Fuck it.had it coming
@@sino1213 you could say that, sure, but did he deserve to be killed? He didn't actually kill milky or anyone.
Plus, by milky doing this he has let hate make him into a monster, which is exactly what combo was before. Its not justice, its revenge and it'll stay with milky forever.
@@sino1213 he served his time and turned his life around. nothing more you can ask after that.
the slight nods from Combo at 10:35 while the flashbacks play in his mind, acknowledging that this was always likely to be his fate after that night. Stephen Graham is another level
This scene actually broke me. Probably the deepest and saddest thing I've ever watched. Combo turned his life around, but it wasn't enough.... Heartbreaking
I don’t think the combo before feared death as much as the combo we see here. Shows that he finally started to appreciate and enjoy life and maybe also shows that people can change
Combo was made to look like a beast in the films. This shows how small he is. Cracking actor.
The whole this is england film and series really makes you question morals and morality. I actually think that milky is more evil than combo ever was. He's cold and calculated whilst the combo is just a mess of a man that has missed out on so much. Hands down the best on screen production I've ever seen
Youre an idiot
D PS
If you are going to call another man a idiot, then make a proper argument.
@@kruxandartillery3654 I see, another idiot.
@@dps1689 Clearly not an idiot, he's put some thought into that. Just because you disagree with him doesn't make an idiot.
Another white man sympathising with a racist violent thug what a surprise.
This scene and what it captures is so true. Its out of Milky's hands. The offence was committed to his family. They suffered the hurt as well. At this point Milky can't stop it. Excellent show.Brilliant scene.
This is England were the best acted an most emotional films i've ever seen. Just masterpieces....
Beautifully written and incredibly acted. It truly gives a historical insight into the skinhead movement in Britain during the 70s and 80s and how it affects us today.
Masterful. He realises and admits his error but still gets the judgement that error deserved. A lot of shows would have had simply had him forgiven by the victim. The lads that take him away are pretty cool customers too and then Combo gets what's coming to him.
Was fully in tears 😭 and a Belvita advert stopped me in my tracks lol. Such great films, series, the lot.
American drama can't come close to British drama
@Wayne Adams shut your hole gay boy
Actually American drama is far superior 99.9% of the time. Although I admit this is fantastic, British "drama" is usually boring snoozefests.
Prawn king ill manors too is also a very very good movie
Chandler Keaton im sorry what, i know this comes from a “patriotic” point of view for you but british drama is much better
joe Fairs No it’s not.
Got tears on my eyes every time I watch this scene. What a movie...!
No wonder scorcesse wanted him to work with himself pacino and De niro
He did years ago on gangs of New York
I felt bad for Combo, soon as he was starting to get on the right track
It’s that final look of regret on Milkys face right at the end…
The moment the doors of the van open, to the crys of "I don't wants to die" to the shot panning out to the abandoned warehouse, It's was and still is when of the hardest things I've watched on TV
Beautiful writing, I'm legit crying. Stephen Graham is a sick actor