Master Vocal EQ & Compression in 10 minutes
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
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Ready for the perfect vocal mix? This free webinar will help you dial in vocal EQ and compression.
Chapters
0:00 Most Important Part of Your Mix
0:30 Step 1: Check Mic Placement
1:02 Step 2: Set Gain Correctly
2:41 Step 3: Add Low Cut Filter
3:47 Step 4: Apply Simple EQ
5:37 Step 5: Compression
9:00 Create a great mix every week
When setting a compressors attack and release, try watching how the gain reduction meter moves with the singers singing. You should SEE the meter moving more where you HEAR the singer gets louder and release at the same rate as the singer gets softer. In other words, your setting the compressor to react to the singer instead of guess on the milliseconds. Using your ear, you will get a more organic and transparent sounding compression. Think of of compressor as a time-based effect and then you can begin to understand how it can be used for tone control, and just volume, when used in conjunction with an EQ.
So, with that said, do you EQ first or compress…. It really depends what you are trying to accomplish.
Merci beaucoup pour vos vidéos
Thanks lot 🎤😎 pozdrav iz Bosne
Thank you! Very clear and easy to use method! 🎶😎
love you brother thanks for the lesson, i appreciate your calm video, clean video and fast tip
Great content. In all honesty, I was looking for a video like this (applied to a DAW) but didn't so grateful to have found it. Simple, concise but also complete!
For simplicity, bless you back🙏🏼
Always great videos! Thanks man
Many blessings sir
Simplicity is the key...you are blessed...thanks for your simple explanation
Thank you❤
thank you for this advice, ill use it bro...
Thank you, sir.
Awesome video! Great job 👏🏼
Thank you 🙏
One of the best recording videos I've seen!
Um... Its about live sound.
Very cool looking mixer!
Thank you. Everyone needs to see this. Can’t stand a “bassy” mic. So easy to fix
This is really good I learn every day more and more. We have to work also to develop our Skill to control all this Sounds, because there´s a lot of Factors that we have to think= Do We have really good Microphones? Who is singing? Professional or just Amateur? Place, etc.Today I was lerning just more. Thank you for this Video! It was wonderful!
Simple and easy to follow
Thank you...understanding the difference between gain, volume and compression is hugely important. Your explanation is clear, simple and concise.
Great to hear!
Love the symplicity.
Thank you,
Very concise explanation ! ❤💯👍🏾
Great to hear!
Thanks a lot👍👍👍🙏
Great video. For beginners or pros
You're one awesome, humble dude. Thanks for all you do
Happy to help!
Great and simple tips - thanks for posting! Very useful even for an atheist like myself, who will be using these tips in the rehearsal room and at gigs - often far away from the nearest church... :)
Glad it helped!
Great explanation in simple terms. I am a newbie to this and so many other UA-camrs use advanced terms without defining them. So Thank you. We have an SQ5 with slink going to our stem box. Is preamp the same as the input gain?
Awesome
As a soloist male singer with a baritone voice, I'll often put low cut at 80 or even 70hz. I can play around my lower vocal now without muddying them up. If I was in a full band I get 100 or 120 Hz cut off. If I'm also using a condensor or better quality microphone, I'll get the clearest and less distorted signal if I sing at least 1 or 2 inches from that mike. If I didn't know how to control my voice enough, I'd definitely get that low cut happening or reduced lower frequencies, if I'm mixing for a girl singer, I'll often boost certain lower frequencies to give their voice a warm rich tone. Not saying anything against your video or ideas, just how it best works for me in live setting.
Thank you
I have a question and I hope you can answer it and I understand if you’re too busy and cannot; I have the Yamaha 5014X board- it has on board compression and EQ for a girls voice what would be comparable to ratio with the onboard system I have so she doesn’t squeal?
Great video for beginners. It is really easy to understand.
I would recommend to experiment with some settings if you feel comfortable with the workflow he mentioned.
1. Try up to 3 frequencies to clean up the vocal.
2. Try out different attack settings for the compressor. 10 ms is really just a starting point. Try going up to 40 ms and see how it changes the sound.
3. Experiment a lot
Agreed! Experimentation (during rehearsal, not live) is the best way to train your ear.
@@collabworshipis the only way to experiment. Please do not practice during service guys.
excellent
It's Ok to hold your microphone if singing live, If you're recording try not to touch it, put it on a stand as it will make extra noice by handling it!
This content in Spanish would be great for Hispanic churches, God bless you
Ask the brother permission to make a review video in Spanish and you can do it yourself :) GBY
You could open the "settings" of this video and turn on sub titles in Spanish
Heads up that all languages highlight diffrent syllables increasing pop and instruiment interference. Spanish worship music tends to have less room noise feedback but more pops and sits right in guitar and piano sweet spots.
Well, with such high-tech mixers, it may be easy. I'd like to see it done with a Yamaha mg10xu, for example, which is what we mortals on a budget have at home.
The deep voice behind YOUR voice is scary
Hi, I want to learn on vocal mastering. Got a Mackie mixer, 4 ch Berringer compressor/limiter, Berringer voice processor analog devices setup and a Audacity software installed in a laptop with a analog sound card. Will it work?
shure beta58 recommended placement length is 15cm
I need PERFECT vocals
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Hi kade good day😊
Can you just tell me how to do frequency sweeping in an analogue mixer?
Thanks.
On most analogue mixers you have at least an adjustable mid frequency. To sweep you turn the lvl of the mids up and then change the frequency of the mids. Depending on the console, you might be able to do this also with the lows and highs, but if you're unlucky you might not be able to do it at all, if you have fixed frequencies for each region. Then you would try to find the sweet spot with what you're given.
What @buelow123 said!
How can I increase gain for proper structure without getting feedback?
Would these principles work with recording as well or would this be separate entirely?
These principles don't translate over to studio work very well.
Hi sir I'm from South India.
We are using behringer XR16 mixer at my Church.
Where I'm lern proper mixing.
Check out our other content! We have a lot of videos that you can apply to any mixer. Even the XR16.
I present cheesy karaoke in pubs. the perfect environment for feedback because of drunks holding the microphone incorrectly and wondering around in front of the speakers.
What ive found works best is finding the feedback point for the gain on the powered speaker, then racking it back a little. that stops most of the feedback loop between mic and speaker.
Eq fist or compressor fist?
I have the Behringer xr18 and compression setup is different, do you have a video for that?
It looks different, but all the principles are the same.
Using the PC software, all these things are very easy rather than the phone/ipod software.
We need someone to do this or translate this for the presonus series iii
We might have some Presonus content coming out next year.
Can you do some work on an analog mixer please
Sorry, we don’t have plans for any analog mixer content at the moment.
So if I don't have a digital board what the 4main free on vocal to cut ur boost?
Cut 200-400 Hz, 5-800 Hz, 1-3kz depending on the room
And boost over 5-8kz
On your compression cheat sheet you have the hold at 20ms? why do you set it to nothing on this video?
You are not going to notice a difference between 0 and 20ms. Recommended settings are not a hard and fast rule. Just a starting point.
Drums are most important
Strip it down to 1 thing on the stage, and what's the most important part (when it comes to music that an audience participates in, like worship)? Vocals.
Drums are undoubtedly an important part of a "good mix" with a full band, but not the most important. You can have a song without them. Can't have a song without vocals. And people can't sing along very easily if they can't hear them.
That's why we say vocals are most important.
Co I am confused about your mic placement tip. I never have my mic that close to a singer (1inch). Also don’t have the singer holding the mic. I use a condenser mic with a pop screen at 6 inches. I do this to avoid the low end buildup from proximity effect. What am I missing here?
This is in reference to live sound.
Pause, it should also never be any closer than an inch from the mouth. 3" is fine as long as it's pointed at the back of the throat. If you're too close, especially with a booming voice, you will overdrive the diaphragm and lose dynamic range.
I just purchased a x32. And can’t find help
You're in luck! We have all kinds of resources for the X32! When you look around our UA-cam content, you'll find that nearly all of our past video are demonstrated on an X32. We also have a mastery course on the X32 that you can check out here: collaborateworship.com/x32-mastery/
What do you do if you set the gain in the right level, but your fader won’t reach 0db, and is much lower than 0? Do you leave the fader where it is? Or do you reduce the gain to bring the fader to close to 0db?
There's no need for the fader to be at 0 (also referred to as unity). Zero is just your mark for the volume at baseline, not being cut or boosted (based on the gain level). Cutting the volume from zero is ok. It doesn't have to be at 0.
By and large achieving a proper level using gain is far more important than where your fader is set. However, fader position isn’t entirely arbitrary either.
Because the dB scale on faders is logarithmic (meaning the level of adjustment over a given span is not the same throughout the entire range of the fader) having faders close to 0 is still preferable. Just not at the expense of gain/signal level. Being around 0 allows for finer adjustments to your levels than if your fader is down around, say -40 dB.
If ALL of your faders are very low with proper gain settings, it likely means you have “too much PA” for your room.
Wireless mic sentivity
What if you don’t have that mixing desk ? Ive got a fairly basic Behringer desk that goes into Logic and I do most of my EQ etc within Logic, barely touching the mixer. Is this wrong ? For example My mixer doesn’t have a Low cut filter on it that I can see.
All the principles would still apply in your case. You'd just be doing it inside of logic.
@@collabworshipThanks. I was hoping you’d say that 😊👍🏻
is there a benefit to putting the "gain" to +6? or using that gain setting at all?
You need to use some makeup gain but it's usually all about what flavour do you want, just play around with it and search tutorials for compressor applications in live sound reinforcement ✌️I for one would recommend more of an 3-4 db makeup gain
There are no real hard and fast rules. What you’re hearing in this video are just recommendations. But the reason he chose 6 dB of gain on the compressor is because he was targeting 6 dB of gain reduction with the compressor.
So what’s happening overall is that you’re reducing the loudest portions of the audio signal by 6 dB, and then boosting the compressed signal by the 6 dB you’ve lost. The result is that your signal is just as loud, but the volume difference between the quietest and loudest sounds is reduced.
Could I do half of the make up gain and use the fader to adjust for the rest of it? or is the point to never move my vocal fader in the mix ever?@@rhinobart
@@caleconrad2332 well, you’re kind of talking about two different things. So you COULD push your fader up to get an equivalent volume increase, but gain (and make up gain on the compressor) are different, mostly because of where they occur in the signal chain internally.
The idea is to get a nominal gain level as early in the signal chain as possible, as it impacts everything later in the chain (EQ, FX, other dynamics processing depending on exactly what you’re talking about, and even things like monitors, streams, or recording if you’re running those off the same console). So you want to send the fullest, cleanest signal possible to those later stages. However the fader occurs essentially at the end of the signal chain. So ultimately, while you may again get an equivalent increase in volume, you’re negatively impacting everything between the compressor and the fader.
Now that’s not to say that you absolutely have to apply the same amount of makeup gain as the level of compression. You don’t absolutely have to do anything. But that’s a pretty good target to be around as a general rule of thumb.
I cannot agree on applying HPF on every mic channel. It would be ideal in quick live mixing without rehearsal, but applying it in such high frequency above 120Hz will definitely lose warmth and volume of the vocal. When I am in a situation where I have no time to rehearse, I would put between 110Hz-130Hz, but less filter, better the sound. I put pop filters on mic first, and use HPF to its minimum.
Vocals don't need to occupy those frequencies in a live setting. Also don't need those frequencies bleeding into the mic from your instruments.
We use these suggested settings on our vocals and they still have plenty of warmth.
What mic did you use to record this?thanks for sharing.
I think it was a Sennheiser e835.
Were you talking about for the talking head stuff, or the singing example? The talking head mic is a Sennheiser MKH50.
I’m sure it’s the Sennheiser MKH 50. Sounds great.
It's a killer microphone. Worth every penny.@@PointFortinSDAChurch
Thanks for a great video!
I'd add a 3rd point for mic placement: "Don't place your hand over the antenna". It shouldn't have that much of an effect if the receivers are well-placed or in an interference-free area, but its worth considering.
For sure! Great tip.
For compressing singing mics on an X32 I'm using attack 28 ms, release 450 ms, peak, with high pass side chain at 250 Hz ... Anything faster than that and the sound of the vocals can become harsh because of how the attack stage is shaping the waveform, and it generally just sounds over processed. I'll often bring up the soft knee to 3. This also greatly reduces the proximity effect.
For speech mics, same settings, with release at 750 ms, and sometimes soft knee at 5, and ratio at 5:1. This allows the board operator to rarely need to touch the faders between someone cupping the microphone at their belly button, and someone eating the mic. Of course you also need a high pass at 170 Hz or so, and if you have wedges with that much gain potential, you gotta ring em out and nothing wrong with active feedback mitigation for them.
Try it out, and see what you think. The lack of harshness at more intense parts is stunning. This is part of the key to great sound on a large system. The other is dynamic EQ on everything, and well... That's another big reason people own DiGiCo boards, and why they sound great. Relaxed compression, and dynamic EQs. Free plugins on a computer can solve this with an X32.
Exactly this slower attack and release will mimic the smooth opto vibe and sounds way better than the settings this guy recommends. only do the fast settings he uses if you have the ability to use two compressors so you can use the faster settings for gentle peak limiting
Is the compressor suitable for live vocal performances such as band or karaoke?
This video is in regards to live vocals, so yes!
@@collabworship Can you explain more in detail how a compressor is helping in that regard?
@@237311 It's basically just limiting how loud the vocal can get so that you can push it's level higher without loud parts becoming overwhelming.
@@collabworship Ive got an analog mixer and we know microphones produce weak electrical signals, and one of the reasons I purchased a mic preamplifier is that I wanted that signal level coming from the microphone to boost it up. So, dont think a compressor may be necessary here because we dont want to limit that signal from the microphone, right?
@@237311 Less of a "limiting the signal gain" and more of "limiting dynamic range"
Do you ever struggle getting enough volume with vocals without it getting too loud on their loudest notes?
How can I routing my x32?
Can you explain in more detail what you're needing help with?
I always assume if you can't make out the words- you have nothing to say
Just use a studio track and have the "artist " pantomime
How to remove hunky and muddy sound?
You’ll find that around 300-500 hz
Agree with @kevinmerino7432
HPF all reverb and delay at approx 350Hz will help clean out the mud.
I agree and disagree of the first point.
Firstly I agree as it is right what you mentioned.
Secondly, I disagree as it is not compulsory to have it an inch away from your mouth. It clearly depends on the texture. People with boxy or muddy sound usually stand a little further, even 6 inches away depending on how you want the texture to sound.
Going further away clearly means more gain to have a healthy signal beforehand.
In a studio setting, yes. Keep the mic a little further away to get the best tone from it. In a live scenario, it's usually best to keep it as close as possible to lower gain and reduce stage noise and potential feedback.
I'm an amateur for sure, so I don't really understand the 6dB output gain in the compressor. Just seems hot for makeup gain...
The 6db that Kade talked about in the video isn’t for make up gain. It’s for gain reduction; the amount by which the compressor reduces the signal when it’s at its loudest.
@@vaundelbrackin7548 Actually, at 7:55 Kade does set the make-up gain to +6db, before he goes into setting the threshold (where he talks about reducing the gain by around 6db).
@pswim62 I'm an amateur on this stuff as well, but I agree that a constant 6db of make-up gain might be a bit much. Considering you're reducing by a maximum of 6db in the loudest parts, I find I often add around 3db back in, if any. I regularly just ride the faders as needed. But as I said, I'm an amateur and don't know if using make-up gain has other benefits.
The make up gain isn't that important. It doesn't change the sound. It just makes sure that you have enough signal after the compression. Depending on what you are compressing, you will need that make up gain. Or you can use it when you are compressing different things differently so your faders all behave the same way. But it's totally up to you.
You can set makeup gain to whatever works for your situation. In my case, adding 6dB of makeup gain gets the level back to where I want it. If gain and amps are set correctly, this will put your lead vocal fader at about 0dB.
Makeup gain is making up for the gain reduction so it should be set to bring the level back up to where it was before compression. If the target is 6db of gain reduction, 6db makeup gain should be close. Don’t use the makeup gain to boost the signal much more though, if you need to do that, you probably need to go back and adjust your input gain on the preamp. I’ve seen improper use of the gate and compressor gains by untrained users causing feedback issues. Proper gain structure is important.
What those of us who don’t know these digital boards?
i am from africa and i need this course how can u help me sir
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Some of my best recordings have been with mic input gain 60-70% increasing clarity and about 5 inches away from mouth I sure hope your expertise doesn’t come from 10 minutes of mastering vocals 🤔
This is about "LIVE" sound.
1 inch is too close to the mouth. The mic captures the pop sounds and air. Eventually can't clean it
Yep. It's a trade-off when it comes to live sound. Dealing with a little more pops and air is better than dealing with extra stage noise and feedback. That's why we recommend keeping it close.
There was no JOY !!!!
Huh? 😂
Video starts at 2:00
Well, technically it starts at 0:00. But thankfully we put some chapters in there for those who didn't want to watch the intro 🙂
It takes months to years of daily ear training to actually master EQ and compression
Correct.
Hello, +6 db makeup gain that's unnatural you need to kinda bring to the table a sh*tload of compression and then make it up? From my point of view compression and makeup gain should help the vocals me more fluent and fluid, really ok with the rest of the video but no way that makeup gain is a go to, keep up the good work, good clip✌️
Compression curve is too aggressive for vocals
This is a video for amateur sound techs at small churches who are also working with amateur musicians. The control that this much compression gives works really great for those settings. And it does not sound too aggressive with the settings we give.
@@collabworship I should just start my audio engineer training course again. I don’t even know why I commented in the first place. No one here cares anyway and I’m sure you don’t either. If I do start again I’ll make sure to be a strong competitor of yours. We need to keep evolving in the church tech training space and heathy competition that makes you sweat is a pretty good way to do that 👍 happy mixing
@@carsonbaker6615 Competition is great, and churches need the help. Every church has different needs when it comes to audio and your way of teaching is sure to meet the need of a certain group of them. There's room for all of us here! Looks forward to seeing you release some content.
First you have tone able to sing
That definitley helps... lol
Cut out the word "joy", that should do it
I think you'll find that life is much more enjoyable with some joy...
Bro changs your mic or sum. You sound like you have stuffy nosd
Indeed a stuffy nose...
You can’t master anything in 10 minutes.
That is correct. It’s a hyperbole used to get across the idea that you will learn it quickly. 👍🏻
Bitter truth
@@collabworshipYour explanation is clear and simple though. For a beginner mixer like me it was perfect.
No, but if you understand the basics the rest will follow. It’s like playing Guitar or drums, if you know the basics you can get it down in 10 minutes, in fact it doesn’t take me longer than 20 minutes to mix my church’s worship band.
You can if you know what you’re doing . 😊
Every time he hits the word “joy” I want to cringe
😬 ooofff
Great presentation, except, your voice sounds muddy. Like the over compressed radio announcers of the past who wanted to present a super fat voice. Is that ok if only speaking, since there's no music behind?
It's just a stuffy nose.
@@collabworship Ha! Ok, thx
Guy thinks every other guy owns the same mixer.
If we could include every mixer known to man in the same video, we would try 🤷♂
He forgot to mention actually
Wow! Je suis rarement tombé sur un truc aussi bidon! Désolé, mais ce coup ci, je réagis...
Le son, c'est mon job depuis 40 ans, et le live depuis 20... Alors, on va debunker pour les francophones qui ont fait l'effort de regarder en ricain...
- Gain: c'est le seul domaine où je suis d'accord, à 100%
- Pas plus d'un pouce (2.54 cm) de la bouche au micro!!! Dommage, ça partait bien, mais là, c'est cata, et ça explique beaucoup pourquoi le son est aussi pourri dans sa démo, boueux, pâteux: ça s'appelle l'effet de proximité, et un bon chanteur joue avec: regardez n'importe quelle vidéo d'Aretha Franklin, et demandez vous ce qui serait arrivé au prémp si elle avait gardé le micro à 2cm!
Non, la distance micro fait partie des paramètres à apprendre quand on chante: un micro est une oreille, et on ne gueule pas dans l'oreille des gens. Par contre, si on veut être intime, chaleureux, on rapproche le micro, presque à le toucher...
- L'équa: le principe est assez bon, mais il ferait mieux de monter son Hi P,ass et de mieux chercher les fréquences qui "grattent". Même si je répugne à faire de l'eq additive, j'aurai quand même tenté de donner de la présence (vers 4k) et de l'air (10k) à sa piste... sans oublier que l'eq va aussi dépendre de ce qu'il y a autour: les concerts a capella, c'est rare! Mais même sans instru, dans sa démo, après eq et coupe bas, c'est à peine mieux qu'avant...
- Le compresseur: là, c'est du grand n'importe quoi! D'abord les paramètres qui marchent avec une X32 (pas vraiment championne de la compression), et d'une dLive ou d'une Quantum par exemple, n'ont rien à voir: chaque console live a sa propre réponse aux paramètres dyn, ensuite, choisir un ratio de 3 et un release à 10, ça marche sur certaines voix, pas du tout sur d'autres... Un compresseur, comme un équa, n'est jamais un truc à régler à l'aveugle. Ou alors, on sait très bien ce qu'on fait, et on connait son matos et la source parfaitement. Mais mes réglages de comp pour une voix lead vont de 1,6/1 à 10/1 pour la ratio, de 20ms à 500ms pour le release, pour parler que de ça... Dans son exemple, un ratio de 5 à 7 avec une attaque plus longue, pour calmer les envolées de qq dB sans trop toucher à l'enveloppe aurait sûrement mieux arrangé les choses...
Si vous voulez apprendre le son, arrêtez de regarder ce genre de bullshit sur yt: fréquentez des musiciens, des sondiers, allez les voir bosser, écoutez, observez, écoutez...
J'espère que l'auteur fera pas l'effort de me traduire, il serait vexé, mais si je peux protéger qq passionnés de ses bêtises, j'aurai pas perdu mon temps...
Sounds like you have lots of interesting ideas, and I'm sure some people out there agree with you. Would love to see you make some videos that share your opinions on your own channel.
Ps. These are principles designed to help people who have no background in sound mixing (mostly in small churches). Keeping things as simple as possible is the most effective message for them.
Also, not offended by your words. We're confident that what we put out is not nonsense because it works at our small church and has for many others. Sorry that you thought it was all bogus. Safe to say that we are not for everyone. 🙂
Sounds terrible,sorry
Sounds good to us 🤷♂
You are a bad speaker ,you are speaking fast to impress that you can speak fast.😩🤯🤒🤫
It's a pretty normal speed of talking here in the US. You can always drop the playback speed on UA-cam if you need it slower though.
if you need effects to enhance your voice give up singing
You are aware that every professional vocalist uses effects (such as reverb) on their voice in the studio and live, right?
Effects have nothing to do with covering up a lack of skill. They "enhance" the vocal and make it even better.
Awesome
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