Fixing A Church's Mix That's DISTORTED & TOO LOUD | Mixdown Meltdown Episode 2
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- Опубліковано 20 бер 2024
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In my profession, I'm a nurse. When I became a member, there were three mics, and before covid, the live stream did not exist. I purchased all of the equipment because i believed in the message reaching more people. Not everyone are great singers but they have a heart for what they do. I learned everything on my own. I am a work in progress.
You’re a blessing bro we had a lighting strike at my church last year and it led to a major upgrade in the system I play keys but did 4 sanctuary monitors and two ptz cams and a peavey aurora with laptop and obs Your heart for the ministry is huge I pray God continues to bless and smile on you and this ministry.
You did your best and when you cannot figure out what to do you called on someone that does. Doesn’t seem like anyone could ask for more.
The fact that the equipment was there (because of you) and can be optimized in and of itself is a place many churches wish they could be at.
Quincy, you're doing a great job as a one man band! The Lord sees all! Blessings!
Respect 🫡
Quincy - you’re the man! Putting your time and money to serve your church and reach people with the gospel. And wanting to do everything with excellence, so you reached out to an expert for help. Awesome to see this collaboration.
This is Kitchen Nightmares for audio engineers 🤣
Yes!!! I said Restaurant: Impossible, but they are exactly the same format so yeah 😂
Omg I was just about to comment that 😂😂
/yelling at mixing board holding bread to both sides/
WHAT ARE YOU?
-'I'm a compression/limiter sandwich'
These vocals are RAW! Put some reverb on them, you DONKEY!
@@chrishammillaudiolol 😂
What a mighty God we serve on repeat 😭
It’s implanted in my head and that’s all I hear now.
😂
To God it sounds amazing. I just wish you could find a key and stick with it 😅
@@benjamin.kelleyits funny but dont do that to god they are trying 😂 god bless❤ just need to practice
im like "is this looped??"
Everybodyyy! What a mighty God we seeeeeerrrrvvveeeee! That guy!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That melody has been implanted into my head as a core memory.
@@chrishammillaudio
I think they were singing in 4 different keys at the same time... 😅
@@calebrabion4786they are trying just need more practice. Especially with the harmonies. They need a good arrangment and practice each part with piano. So they memorize the key and Get that down and practice with a good worship leader but their heart is in the right place. Way before trying to do it acapella. God bless them
Bro could def do with some in ears...
"This mix would rather participate in the loudness war than the war on satan" 😂🤣😂🤣 not even a minute in and I'm dying 🤣
Top notch voiceover commentary! Hope this series continues to pick up and take you to new places!
I enjoyed exorcism vs baptism!
@@AidanMmusic96 Lol it got me as well 🤣
haha went straight to the comments after he said that xD
what makes this more funny is reading your comment while hearing the vocal in the background :D Oh man that was good..
@@greesy5644 I did as well when I originally wrote it 🤣
As a former worship leader of a church I appreciate you finding and committing to this niche. What you are doing for the mission and well-being of this church is so important. When someone new or going through something walks into those doors and hears that sound, it can transform their whole well-being.
I like the guy singing and up on the board/livefeed at the same time. Very amusing when this happens in small churches.
Man, I really appreciate this small series you’re starting here.
There is a *heap* of negative associations about churches being a grift, but so far the two church videos you’ve posted have been my experience at church. Full of humble people genuinely committed to their (and my) faith.
Feels cool to see some social media stuff that’s showing real life and not some facsimile.
Members of the church being dedicated to the mission and vision and doing what they can to support. Such a beautiful thing. Even if the audio quality has some opportunity to grow.
Also - I think it’s so awesome that you’re helping these churches and coming into a space you may not be super comfortable in to help. I know you’re getting content or whatever, but the candor and way you conduct yourself is so appreciated. ❤
I am blessed to serve at my church on audio. No fancy equipment compared to some churches but we do our best with what we have
I do this work at a church too, and yes, I've encountered nothing but kind people.
That guy seemed to really be invested in his church! Very cool to see him investing in these things and for allowing you to help him take it to the next level. Wholesome video
Thanks for helping out a church brother. He looks like he is a one man show 😅
For just a two mic setup the drums are coming in clean!
I’m genuinely surprised at how good it sounded considering I went into this blind.
@@chrishammillaudiobecause you’re top tier!
@@2Nero12 heck yeah he is
Believe glyn johns did a similar setup for studio’s. I know the Beatles used a similar mic setup for Ringo Starr’s drums :)
@@chayish I FORGOT ABOUT THAT
I do studio work but man I’m always impressed with live music techs. This is awesome lol
It's one hell of a job. Never knew until I jumped into live from studio.
So good! Using the camera to fallow the cables and that switch from room audio to board audio when you put on the headphones at 8:50 makes this video very immersive.
Chris!!
I would happily subscribe and even patreon for a dedicated channel to this!!
I mean that, and there’s many like me out there!!
Please open a seperate channel and reuoad these two videos so far… or whenever you do it…
Please please please 🙏🏾 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
THIS!!
Found your channel with Episode 1, I'm so invested in this series already. Big up from the UK!
I second that
Those drums actually sound pretty dang good.
Windows works very well with X-Air and Midas USB drivers once installed. I currently do FOH for a portable church campus and have great success multi-tracking 18in/18out via USB connected to my Lenovo running Reaper as a DAW. No need for anything crazy, just the stock driver package from their website and a proper config in the windows settings. I love this series and love your willingness to help them improve quality for their stream and FOH mixes. It seems like everyday stuff to us, but to a lot of the volunteers in these small churches, it's very overwhelming.
Loved S1 Ep2 of Chris Hammill's Mixing Nightmare's. Thank you for including the direct out in this one! It made it way easier to hear what adjustments you were making. Also loved the addition of a before and after. Again, this is such a cool idea. I'm staying tuned.
Appreciate you watching!
I will say, after listening to the rant on windows audio being screwy, I realized I've NEVER had those issues...or even issues crashing with my own DAW (REAPER), but I've had several issues with the macs at my university not outputting or detecting devices correctly or not outputting audio at all...maybe it's experiential, but turn that rant the other way around, and that was my own PERSONAL experience with the OS's....just without as much salt thrown MacOS's way (in place of windows) lol!
Great video overall! I'm finally getting into the live audio portion of my courses, so watching videos like this helps me in learning other/more troubleshooting steps for when I'm doing these types of gigs more and more! Thanks for the awesome content! ❤
One instance of this happening and I’d agree with you. I’ve had EIGHT YEARS of these issues on Windows. I’ve been using Macs for about 10 years for pro audio and I’ve never once had any issues connecting my interfaces, audio not being read, etc.
If this were a video about Macs not letting you customize the internal specs I’d have a “rant” about that.
Thanks for watching.
Yeah I kind of realized the same thing. Been doing audio for ~15 years and Windows has been Perfect for me for all those years, be it Wavelab, Reaper, S1, never had an issue. MAC/Linux have always been an issue for me. Mac/Windows has been and always will be an ongoing debate. I've never had an issue with Windows so I stick with them.
I love this. These folks are making due with what they have and trying where they can to make improvements. And asking for help when they can. We all grow a bit at a time. And God honors willing hearts. This is lovely.
Chris, what can i say. You performed a miracle in that Church, you turned a distorted mess into a heavenly sound. Blessings from the UK. 👏🏾👏🏾🙏🏽
A miracle? Only god performs miracles.
@@busterbuster1641are you being dense on purpose
@@sgtjonzoNot at all. I'm sickened by the reckless blasphemy evident here.
@@busterbuster1641how so?
@@exhydraboy2429God our father will be thyne judge.
I really appreciate how you took some time to compliment all of the hard work they put in setting up the mix and live stream!
I love this series! I helped run sound for my middle and high school youth group and a few emergency fill ins form my current church. Lovely seeing all the different gear, talents and people. I learned quite a few things here and had some fun laughs. Keep it up, can't wait for some more!
This is so relaxing but also educational and I love it. Enjoying the series so far.
You're a life saver ❤
Wish I had someone like you locally here in So-Cal! Been looking around to find someone to come and help straighten out a few issues plaguing us for YEARS. Our mix in ears at the board sound great for the most part, but so many things need to be helped in the congregation, it just always sounds so muddy and not so nice to the ears.
Loved seeing the night a day difference you made for this church, though! It was so fun to see you knowing EXACTLY what you're doing to fix what, when and where. Great job!
I know how I will spend my next 30 minutes. Excited to watch this one. Keep up the nice work Chris.
Thank you for all your hard work and huge props for sharing this unique concept of "fixing the mix". It's a joy to watch you work and see how you handle what's been given to you. Cheers!
Gospel is so fun to mix, so much energy.
10:20 Adding the reverb sounded so good. Was nice hearing the before and after.
A touch of reverb here and there can really help to "glue" the sound together and make it feel more spacious and natural. Especially since most people are used to the way a typical room sounds, versus a dry, acoustic chamber.
I'm so happy you started this series , it's awesome to watch, thank you!
Wow I hope you keep going man, this series is wonderful.
Great work!
Was nice to hear the mix on this video, Thanks for taking the extra time.
As a multimedia team in a church, this content is very helpful 👌
Subriber from the Philippines 🇵🇭
I'm so enthralled by the work flow, the editing is also well done with the mix audio Vs room audio. and I really appreciate you explaining the logic and reasoning you're using while mixing. the only thing id love is some amount of on screen subtitles for the mini adjustments you're making. I see you going through menus and changing loads of settings but I can't say I understand what you're doing or what you're hearing to prompt the change, but it's too much fun to watch a pro at work. I've always loved watching live AV guys work their magic and it's fun and super informative to see exactly what you're doing
Editing would take way too long if I made a VO or caption for every little thing I do. I can be a little more specific than give bullet points, but analytics show that people love hearing what I’m doing more than what I say I’m doing.
This production is next level! Great video, can't wait for more!
Episode #2! You're a smart man! Love this series.
Love this series, one of my new favorite UA-cam channels
Great video again. Very interesting to see the workflow. And I am amazed how good the drumsound is for just kick and one overhead mic
I love this kind of series. Plenty of churches would be so blessed to have this kind of person come in and help with their mixes. It helps bring people into the kingdom of God.
Sounds clean! And that building needs some dampening forsure in the ceiling so cool you get to help with sound outside the venue 👌
I’m loving these videos! The before and after is crazy lol
Really enjoying this series so far. Please keep it going! What night and day difference in the before and after mixes. Great stuff
Fantastic video dude. Love seeing the perseverance we as sound engineers have to have patience for. Your voice sounds almost AI you’ve mixed it so well. Top effort
@ChrisHammillAudio Thank you, thank you, thank you. That before and after made me almost cry of the wonderful and beautiful work you did here man! Thank you for real! Brother Quincy put on them headphones and started vibing cause it was so good! Awesome work man.
thanks Chris amazing video...im glad youre helping out the churches with your amazing gift in this field...honestly we need more of this.
I’m glad people are appreciating the content.
For audio, I would have to agree with you about Windows. One thing's clear - Windows's audio API is not as robust as macOS's CoreAudio or Linux's PipeWire.
Pipewire is the whole reason I switched to Linux. It's so straight forward for me.
PipeWire is kicking tuchus that's for sure.
And on Linux basically all the interface drivers are in the upstream kernel, and connect through ALSA; not some random crap you hope the manufacturer didn't phone in.
On Windows they actually do have a very stable driver infrastructure for this stuff, but when manufacturers call up or hire developers for their Windows drivers they always work around it, and make an absolute mess of things. 😂😂😂
Plus Windows is almost unusable for any long running production work, because it randomly goes off on its own unprompted to do stuff you never asked for.
So cool that you do this! When i was in highschool i would control the slides for the contemporary worship at the methodist church my mom went to. I never worked the sound booth, because the guy who did was paranoid about someone touching his board. This reminds me of those times and gives me a new respect for that guy who didnt want me playing with his mixer.
Thanks for adding the stream audio into this vid and for the before and after mix. Hope this turns into a series.
Necesitamos mas videos de este tipo! saludos desde la Patagonia Argentina!
love these videos you are doing nowadays!!! keep this a series and move stong..!!
These videos are absolutely amazing!! The best in fact! Great job!! Subscribed straight away! I’m hooked👍👍
Seeing that smile is everything.
That kick sounded spicy my man! great content, first time here
Windows User here, the audio jack into the laptop is more than likely a combo headphone/mic jack. I have never had good luck with those ports and use USB whenever I can.
USB from the mixer didn’t work no matter what routing and settings I did on the mixer. Routed it on the mixer the same way I route at my music venue and in the last episode. The difference being both my venue and the last episodes church used Mac’s.
using windows for pro audio can be good these days if your decently versed in windows fuckery. as someone who did IT and pro audio its pretty good. more flexibility for sure.@@chrishammillaudio
@@chrishammillaudio The uniformity of Mac has its perks sometimes lol
Theres the big difference though. Most church volunteers don’t have IT backgrounds. This man in the video works in IT and he had no clue why Windows was suddenly not working.
Can windows do the same things? Yes, but with an extra insurance of headaches.
I second this, the stupid combi port Asus or dell laptops use, leak audio into the mic port as well..
God bless you all! This is/was a GREAT video as I LOVE/ADORE Behringer products!
what a cool series i'll be sure to stay tuned!
Day and Night mix. great job.
Chris this is an excellent series. I'm a broadcast mixer for a three letter network (pick your favorite and that's the one 🤣). This is a very cool concept, mixing for video/streaming/broadcast is such a different beast from live in the room. Can't wait to see more!
Bringing a Marshall head and 4x12 cab to a church service is wild, love it
An incredible feat of audio engineering, where good prioritization makes anything possible!!!
“Anotherrr onee” - in a DJ Khaled voice🤣🤣. Enjoyed this one as well bro. Keep em coming🙌
Dude your puns made this great!
Absolute genius idea for a youtube series. Commentary is top notch Sir!
Very good Chris. I guess this is an example of double compressors, hit mics, loud FoH, and hot streaming audio resulting in a *mess*. It really does sound better, even before you did the side- by- side at the end.
The best of luck on your journey of correcting church audio systems / boards. Take care!
I don’t know that I’ve ever been more excited for a second video in series. This is absolutely fantastic. One note on the format- It would be great to see an overlay or voiceover when you are EQing and making adjustments on the board. It would help tie in what we are hearing from the board mix to the adjustments that you’re making. Can’t wait for the next video.
Something like this. Demistify the knobs and faders ;) ua-cam.com/users/shortssyEahfPYst0?si=BsdL7snUDz3anJNY
I'll take it into consideration, but polls I've posted about this and analytics show most of you dip out when I talk too much and would rather just hear. Now, making a video about EQ to explain everything, that I can absolutely do.
Totally! That’s why the text overlays are so nice in this format. Just one guy’s thoughts :) Love your content
Appreciate the feedback!
@@chrishammillaudioI also would like to see the console's screen a bit more cos sometimes I can't see or understand what you're doing or showing when it's based on the screen.. 😅
YAY. You did another one. You’ve hit gold bro 😂 keep it up man!
Appreciate it! Got 3 more church’s in the works in the next week.
@@chrishammillaudio hard work earn more
Loving this series. Super interesting
Great job! What a good man that sound tech is
Love how you preached on how Windows is terrible for audio connectivity. I lose so many hours trying to find what’s wrong with my desktop. Plug it into my MacBook, never have an issue.
Help me. Stand side by side with me to the Windows apologists 😂
@@chrishammillaudioI will take windows for everything but audio😂
@@chrishammillaudio Windows is one of those products that are better when pirated.
@@chrishammillaudio haha! i never had any issues with windows audio, but there's no gatekeeping to do. if one system plays up, out it goes. The audience doesnt care what laptop runs the show, it has to run, every time!
@@chrishammillaudioThe only reason you should choose Mac over PC or PC over Mac is because you are familiar with it and therefore more productive. Period. Someone who knows PC's back to front and inside out but has never touched a Mac is going to have a much better time with PC/Windows than a Mac. Same applies the other way around. I use both. Mac for small sessions in the studio, and a PC for large sessions with hundreds of tracks where I may be recording orchestras and choirs using more than 80 mics at a time. Macs just don't have the horsepower (yes, even with M3) to do any sort of meaningful processing in realtime on sessions of that scale. Also, you show me the price of a mac with at least 64 cores (128 threads), 16TB of SSD storage, and 128GB of RAM. Under $5K in PC land. At least $30K in Mac land, for half of it,.
14 secs since publishing and I'm here 😏 Hope everyone is having a great day!
I used to work in a company that did like audio, video and lights for conferences and whatnot. This is really cool to watch and learn more in depth, specially since we would use the same Behringer mixer. That thing is such a power house, was so much fun to work with it.
Superb job there dude, you got the best out of what they had.
I think it’s important to note that the version of Windows (home vs pro) that’s being used on the machine makes a HUGE difference. At my venue, we have two computers. One that is our video PC running OBS, and one that handles multitrack recording through Reaper, Spotify playback, AND runs our entire lighting console (Chamsys MagicQ PC). Both computers run Windows 10 PRO, NOT home. They have never given us the issues you describe in this video and have proven themselves to be extremely reliable. They stay on 24/7, they don’t ever crash, and they just work.
Even still - MacOS is still superior. You are right about that.
You know what OS doesn’t need a “pro” version to do pro tasks? Macs.
Windows home/pro is just one more hurdle a customer or in this case a volunteer needs to figure out. Most people just want something that can work as advertised. You shouldn’t need to be a computer whiz in order to set up a simple stream.
@@chrishammillaudio You are right, if I had a church that was starting from complete scratch and needed a computer to handle those tasks, I would absolutely recommend a Mac over anything else. My point really is just that Windows can work just fine, and in some very specific cases, could provide some advantages depending on what tasks that computer actually has to handle.
I will agree with that. It’s also considerably cheaper.
Gaming wise, it’s no contest. Windows machines have their strengths.
@@chrishammillaudio Also, other things such as budget and flexibility from a hardware standpoint are important things to consider, too.
Of course! Not everyone is editing photo/video and doing audio work. If this were a business accounting channel I would probably never recommend Mac’s.
Baptism 😂😂
This is awesome. I love the development of the mix. Very entertaining and full of things to learn about. I hope that more content like this will come in the future.
what an awesome video about real life application of live audio engineering. you earned a sub!
Heh you can hear the disdain in your voice talking about Windows vs Mac, and as a recent Mac convert for pro / recording audio..... Mac's core audio man it_just works_ and in a live situation that's of course what you need.
It’s uncanny the difference. Every time a band has computer issues when they come to the venue I work at - every single time - it’s a windows issue.
@@chrishammillaudio Machines with a fresh windows install tend to work somewhat better, as soon as you add software like THX audio or whatever the laptop manufacturer is using to get their trash speakers sounding usable, mix in the drivers for the audio chip, for routing or other necessary features, with a sprinkle of windows updates (security or drivers) and you got what you dealt with here.
I dealt with Razer's THX and whatever custom software Asus had with Realtek, both horrible, only fixed by a reformat and using drivers specifially for the chip, without manufacturers addons.
And all of that was just for home use, i can't imagine having to deal with windows on a live set
I use both Mac and PC. I hate when Mac makes my equipment E-waste by disabling it with an update (firewire). Also internal audio routing in a Mac is a nightmare. I spent so much time and money on implementing AVB to learn that I can't properly route it once it is in the Mac. But that's all just what I get for not having money for industry standard things.
I used a 2011 MacBook Pro for nearly 10 years. Never once had an audio routing or hardware issue. Never formatted. Never had to fresh install Mac OS. It was bliss. I sold it for a Razer gaming laptop and within 3 months I went right back to Macs with my current 2021 M1 Max MBP. My 2011 MBP loaded DAWs and loaded the OS faster.
Never going back to Windows.
FireWire is ancient. Macs force connection changes on you and that’s my only gripe. Once you adapt it works flawlessly.
I hate Macs, you hate Windows, will there ever be peace?
There will be peace when windows audio driver issues are resolved and are as consistently reliable as Mac’s 😉
@@chrishammillaudio you tell him ✍️
Absolutely amazing work
In a world full of mediocre live sound content, you're doing it right.
Appreciate the super thanks.
that mac v windows rant was cringe, for someone that knows their audio hardware so well understanding a computer really isnt hard...
When the OS reads the board, and you route the board the same exact way you route it for the Mac, and the ATEM switcher reads the signal while the computer doesn’t read the signal from TWO routing options….
How is the concept of Windows was a buggy mess and I had to do a fuck load of maintenance this difficult to understand?
@@chrishammillaudio sounds like your client and you are just not very computer literate, which is okay but not windows fault and your speech was just misleading in my opinion
@@chrishammillaudio
The simple fact that you call it a "buggy mess" and your rant in the video suggest quite clearly that you dont understand how drivers work particularly well.
Get good, dont blame the system. You can prefer Macs all day long and thats fine, but dont bash an operating system because you fail to understand what is required for it to function properly.
I love the choir on that 11 am service ❤
The work you do is amazing!! I came across a few of your videos weeks ago and I ve been hooked ever since, really wish you were more local to south Florida to help my ministry out. Keep up the good work
I’m willing to travel. Email me and we can talk.
12:14 that doesn't make much sense and sounds like a user issue to me..
So basically the classic apple answer.
I love your content tho!
Worked on windows for 8 years. Ran into these issues constantly.
windows being unable to render audio accurately is 100% a windows issue, not user error.
@@humanwaveform I never had any problems... so im still saying user error.
Just because YOU haven't had problems doesn't mean it's a user error. There are literal forums on pro audio sites where people endlessly complain about Windows drivers issues not working with their gear, or a security update borderline bricks their machine. Glenn Fricker was a die hard PC/Reaper dude for years before he finally admitted Windows was not stable and switched to Mac.
You literally see me take the aux cable from the board out of the computer, not reading the audio, inserting it into the ATEM switcher, that reads it. You see clips of the board running audio, but OBS not reading it, despite the board being set up exactly as how I route it on my streams at every show.
Sure, it's "user error" though 🙃
@@chrishammillaudio no. Simple apple argument is: "I never had any problems like this, therefore it's a user error".
It doesn't matter. I'm glad I got you as "excited" as I was, when I spoke about my problems I had with Apple products and why I switched.
The smile and the urge to sing right after :)
man keep it coming. more power to you
Great job Chris. It sounded great by the end of your video.
so It is fun for me to see this side of things, I work in the AV world but I mainly do all of the installs, including the wire pulls, floor pockets, mic, mixers and stuff. I have never seen the programing side of things so this is very cool to see and maybe I can impress my boss one day by learning some of this
I love your videos man! lol i love your humor.
Great work!!! As a musician, music producer and Sound engineering graduate, I am
Learning so much on your channel. The vocals getting to my head though 😂…lol. Well done! You inspire me.
Oh wow. I know the guy. It’s been years. I’m New Jersey born and raised. Awesome channel.
Awesome! Love it, and your voiceovers are so crisp
God Bless man!
i dont understand one word ur saying but im so invested into this!!
WOW...thanks for this episode. I am happy I learned something...
I hope this can be an ongoing series, I absolutely love watching this! Just makes me wish we could get a new sound console for our school.
There’s at the very least 2 more confirmed church’s and 3 more in talks.
sound is clean at the end of video. That’s good work
I am impressed - i wonder how you manage those extreme dynamic voices - I would always had my hand on the gains - or try to set the compressor/limiter to hold them in line… maybe you could do s special 😁 (or have you already?) Thanks for your great work👍👍👍👍
Fantastic video…great work brother.
This was soo fun to watch!